[02:20:26] Hello everyone! I recently started a wiki on miraheze(frogatto.miraheze.org) and would like some help troubleshooting the logo display. The uploaded logo only shows when editing wiki settings, and I see the mediawiki honeycomb when viewing any page with content. I have uploaded the file Frogatto-logo-135.png to the wiki, and set the 'Icon' and [02:20:27] 'Logo' fields in Additional Settings -> Styling to https://frogatto.miraheze.org/w/img_auth.php/4/40/Frogatto-logo-135.png, as well as setting 'Timeless Logo' to Frogatto-logo-135.png. Does anyone know what the problem is here? [02:21:16] I think it's cache, since it shows up fine for me. [02:21:24] It seems like a caching issue, yeah. [02:21:46] I wonder why, since I pressed Ctrl+Shift+R quite a few times. [02:22:23] Thanks for the help. [02:22:26] Probably MediaWiki cache and not your browser cache? Sometimes these things take a bit to propogate [02:22:32] ah. [02:22:38] I didn't consider that. [02:24:50] It's a common thing to get tripped up on I think, it at least gets me fairly often [02:25:02] All in all ManageWiki has been a really good experience so far! The descriptions of the variables are well-written and to the point. The approval for the wiki was also very quick. Many thanks to you all! [02:25:16] Yeah, image cache is famously slow with MediaWiki. [02:25:21] Good luck with your wiki! [02:25:27] Thanks. [02:26:16] Back in the day before we hosted with Miraheze I think it took over a day once on Equestripedia. [02:26:43] That's awful [02:43:12] I really gotta extract our cachebusters implementation on UT/DR into a new extension, it sounds like it would have solved the image caching problems here [02:47:35] What is UT/DR? [02:48:27] In this context I use it to talk about Undertale and Deltarune wikis [03:06:26] Is wiki.gg link censored here? [03:07:13] would anyone mind telling me some tips i can use to upgrade my first page i made? [03:08:37] No, but you'll have to #verify first [03:12:09] Or I guess you can use the interwiki [03:12:20] [[wgg:support:DataMaps]] [03:12:20]

[04:11:59] great news guys, the awesome folks over wiki.gg setup redirects from their old soulframe wiki to ours! >:D [04:12:14] one step closer to defeating evil Fextralife(and fandom) [04:12:33] (we kinda already show up first on "soulframe wiki" in google though) [04:12:56] idk, just felt like sharing [04:19:35] so i have a cookie problem [04:19:52] I would like to add that this is entirely an unprompted very nice action from wiki.gg's side, I got informed the news this morning, told Oreo of the happenings [04:20:04] Say the thanks to Pie :stare: [04:20:12] I'm just the messenger [05:09:42] Whats wrong with fextralife [05:27:30] They own your edits + they sneak in twitch stream behind your back [05:30:15] How often are is the cache for pages like Special:WantedPages generally updated? [05:32:52] Sneak in twitch streams? [05:33:01] Also owning edits is crazy [05:33:02] 😭 [05:33:21] Probably updates everyday i think? [05:34:09] prabhasxd: thanks. As it's a new wiki, I will need to wait a day... *cue elevator music* [05:34:33] I'm not fully sure if it's everyday, but it probably is lmao [05:34:34] Np [05:37:09] 3 days actually. I just proposed https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T15277 which makes it possible to update special pages more frequently if a wiki asks for it. [05:37:38] Oh LOL [05:37:41] tha long huh [06:24:47] Huh [06:25:12] This might be game changing if they're willing to do that for other wikis [06:51:54] How would I format a link such as `https://frogatto.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=3000` to one which can be used within double braces in the page source? I can write [[Special:AllPages]], but I do not know what additional information I need to add. [07:00:55] No way that I know of [07:01:41] You can do [{{fullurl:Special:AllPages|namespace=3000}} Link text] though [07:22:07] [1/2] I'm still rate limited on my home device, so I've adjusted some Cloudflare rules. [07:22:07] [2/2] It's amazing that what user complaints failed to accomplish in the past 2 months is done so quickly when a tech is affected personally 😭 [08:58:13] is there an extension that will allow me to add a msg to all pages? a disclaimer that the game isnt fully released and info can be wrong etc. and then be able to edit/remove it later? [09:00:43] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sitenotice [09:02:48] i cant seem to find it to enable it 🙁 [09:03:25] found pagenotice tho [09:04:24] [1/2] on [[mh:battlenations]] i just had cirrussearch enabled and i think that the search index will take some time to populate so i should just wait, but it is normal to have an error like this on the first day right? [09:04:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496798887145504788/image.png?ex=69eb3217&is=69e9e097&hm=10f83adfb007c6d197728cd59aa96b3c0a0142f0959942e7cb7b0605dba7bd13& [09:04:25]

[09:05:27] this one isn't an extension, sitenotice is just part of mediawiki [09:05:28] if you go to your site and type MediaWiki:Sitenotice you can edit that [09:18:38] amazing thank you! that worked [09:39:25] yo how do I create a stylesheet? do I just do /stylesheetname.css after a template? [09:40:05] because im here looking through the Template:Uses TemplateStyles info page but im confused [09:42:15] Hey! [09:46:56] also how do I edit the tool sidebar? i dont need some of these features on the list [09:48:00] [1/15] Hi, im asking does this wiki violate the rules (I believe it does), I was looking at an modded minecraft server and I found this [wiki]() it was made for a person who isnt active anymore, but this wiki still continues to get regular updates, I would say around 60% of this wiki is just 100 words or less entries arent connected to any [09:48:00] [2/15] thing just sharing an few so just to get my point across [09:48:01] [3/15] I've seen this community before on discord, they doxxed someone, shared fetish porn, shared gore, other stuff aswell, just to get attention, i dont want this happening on Miraheze [09:48:01] [4/15] Pointless pages: [09:48:01] [5/15] [just says bruh]() [09:48:01] [6/15] [2 sentences about neo nazi flag, with transexual flag and skibdi toliet]() [09:48:02] [7/15] [just says redacted]() [09:48:02] [8/15] [doges death]() [09:48:02] [9/15] [meme about fictional indian person]() [09:48:03] [10/15] File sharing: [09:48:03] [11/15] [image of someone buying an porn game, no file ussage]() [09:48:04] [12/15] [music, no file ussage]() [09:48:04] [13/15] [George floyd, no file ussage]() [09:48:05] [14/15] [meme, about jews]() [09:48:05] [15/15] [jew warning]() [09:49:11] I dont know if this is the correct place to put this, but i dont understand how to send an report on wiki, sorry [09:50:34] Forwarded this to #cvt so it doesn't get buried [11:12:26] feel free to only give me a yes or no answer at the moment as im about to hop off, but is it possible for infobox to pull information from the bucket extension? [11:15:43] Is there any reason why I shouldn't make my wiki's page footer transparent? The line of text where you'd see "mobile/desktop view" is not readable, but I don't think this is an issue. [11:17:44] "content is available under Creative Commons Attribution..." is also not readable. That might be more of an issue idk [11:37:31] I mean ngl this happened to me personally and I kinda ignored it. [12:20:32] I don't think so, I'll look into it [12:21:11] yes [12:33:25] got `index_not_found_exception` so I'll try forcing the indexing [12:38:37] [1/3] [TemplateStyles]() are stylesheets specifically for templates. They affect one template and that's it, and are usually located as a subpage of the original template (`Template:Foo/styles.css` affects `Template:Foo` anywhere it's used). [12:38:38] [2/3] CSS for the wiki as a whole goes in MediaWiki:Common.css, and skin-specific CSS goes in MediaWiki:`skin-name`.css (like `MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css`). Skin-specific CSS only affects that skin. [12:38:38] [3/3] [12:39:53] [1/2] Ok so in my url I write: [12:39:53] [2/2] `mywikidomain/wiki/MediaWiki:skin-name.css` [12:39:57] Is that write? [12:40:38] [1/2] No [12:40:38] [2/2] Are you trying to change CSS on one skin, or the whole wiki, regardless of skin [12:40:45] I just realized I typed "write" instead of "right"... [12:41:06] One skin, I want to create one skin in specific for any page I want [12:41:20] By "skin" I mean your wiki's theme (Vector 2022, Modern, etc ) not per-page themes [12:41:27] Per-page themes is different [12:41:54] If you sear "page specific css" in this discord you will find a few options [12:42:20] Ok and I can use that page theme in any page I want or just that one specific page? [12:42:49] It depends on how you implement it [12:43:47] Can't really explain rn but you can target one page in CSS with the page name or use the CSS extension to add CSS across pages [12:44:05] [1/4] Wait so for different themes we have [12:44:06] [2/4] - TemplateStyles [12:44:06] [3/4] - Wiki theme [12:44:06] [4/4] - Per page theme [12:44:09] God this is confusing [12:45:24] [1/3] TemplateStyles only affects the template you write it for [12:45:25] [2/3] Wiki theme - the skin - appears the same for everyone unless you customize it in Common.css or the skin's CSS [12:45:25] [3/3] Per-page CSS isn't commonly used because it's annoying to set up [12:46:44] [1/2] If you search this Discord you'll find some previous discussions on per-page CSS theming that may help you set up what you want [12:46:45] [2/2] I think it's limited to sanitized css though, unlike Common.css or skin css [12:47:12] Ok, and when we use a template and call it in a page, it affects the whole page? Or just the elements inside of the template? [12:48:31] [1/2] Just the elements inside the template [12:48:31] [2/2] It is not recommended to create a whole article inside the template and then call the template on the page, however [12:48:42] Hm......ok [12:49:01] I should take a good look at the css category when formating a wiki [12:50:02] Wait a second...can't I just use a normal base template and call it a TemplateStyle? What's the use of the TemplateStyle, or more like when should I use it? [12:50:14] I feel like that's the most confusing type of stylesheet [12:51:34] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateStyles [12:51:51] just a starting point [12:52:26] [1/2] TemplateStyle isn't a type of template. It's the name of the extension that allows stylesheets to be used in a template. You can use templates without any CSS at all. If you want template-specific CSS, you'd make a stylesheet as a subpage of the template and invoke it in the template itself. Otherwise, no CSS is applied [12:52:26] [2/2] Thanks nlichner37, I linked them earlier too [12:53:32] Oooooo [12:53:35] Ok I understand it [12:54:34] So it's like in C# where when you create a function, let call it MyFunction(), have different parameters allows to use the same function but with different form of usage! [12:55:05] In the template case it's similar because I can call templatestyle and change the looks of the template according to what I want [12:56:07] [1/2] It's not going to affect the whole page, though [12:56:07] [2/2] So if you're trying to theme specific pages by using TemplateStyles, that isn't going to work [12:57:20] You'd either need to write CSS in Common.css that hard-codes in the page name and the CSS you want applied on that page, or use the CSS extension (linked above), which is limited to sanitized CSS but will affect the whole page when you call it [12:59:22] Sanitized CSS affects all users? [13:04:35] Yes, "sanitized" just means you are limited in the types of CSS you can do [13:07:12] Sorta in this same line of questioning, is the styling I've included in common.css only for Vector 2022 skins? Can users load a different skin (for whatever reason) and have a an unstyled wiki? [13:14:13] Common.css applies to all skins. However keep in mind that different skins may structure pages differently so, e.g. a CSS rule `.some-vector-specific-class .some-vector-specific-menu` won't have any effect on another skin besides Vector, since it's been designed with Vector in mind. [13:15:41] You can also put your Vector-specific CSS in MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css [13:16:03] Many wiki admins focus on maintaining one skin well rather than trying to maintain many in varying stages of repair [13:16:42] You can disable wiki skins per wiki but some people do have global preferences for a skin that you may not support [13:16:48] Which is what it is [13:17:09] And those people are likely accustomed to dealing with it [13:46:58] hey so can i actually edit anything on common.css, like making a boxes similar to tables where the sidebar, toolbox and main text of the site behind and changing the bg (aka behind those boxes) to an image [13:47:30] I'm trying to adapt the Infobox template from the Miraheze meta wiki to my own. The template does not render an image when viewing a page it is on. However, when editing the Template and *previewing* a page, the image renders. Does anyone know why this could be? [13:47:30] For example https://frogatto.miraheze.org/wiki/Frogatto:Black_Ant does not render the image in the infobox, but editing the Template at https://frogatto.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Character?action=submit with the placeholder page set to 'Frogatto: Black Ant', the image shows up. [13:53:48] You can use Common.css to change the style of the existing HTML structure, but you can't use it to change the structure itself (at least, not in a meaningful way) [13:54:18] so i cant make a background similar to fandom wiki? [13:54:21] You can use CSS to change the background. Perusing [[dev:Template:Background]] is easier tho [13:54:22]

[13:54:32] alr appreciate it [13:55:12] ok its easy to implement [13:55:16] thanks for the help [13:55:24] I say this in the sense that if you want to add a new menu (e.g. under Page Tools), that's not doable with just CSS [14:30:53] [1/3] yo [14:30:54] [2/3] who or what the fuck is robots.txt [14:30:54] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496881052067565670/Screenshot_20260423_222124_Gmail.jpg?ex=69eb7e9d&is=69ea2d1d&hm=31314a8c3936bddb7c8476f639e8bc69bf0bbb4b7402c07428aca8f0d3cc19fb& [14:31:21] The file that tells Google which pages should be indexed [14:31:37] Check which pages are affected by that report [15:07:12] That is probably intentional [15:20:56] how do i style site notices if they're gonna disappear when i click the x [15:22:36] dont click the x [16:09:21] how do backups of the sites work? say something catastrophic happens, would the site be recoverable? [16:45:50] this page should still hold up as a current gist but I defer to a tech with anything more to add or if you have more questions about it, https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/backups [17:00:06] delete your `centralnotice_hide_BoardElections2026` cookie [17:40:13] uhm hey [17:40:28] [1/2] just wanna ask but [17:40:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496928758333051051/Screenshot_20260424_013906.jpg?ex=69ebab0b&is=69ea598b&hm=b3390322a167152edbc8df58b1bcb734cf4db9fab3f6d922cb6132c2db1f799a& [17:40:47] I don't remember i even done anything in the wiki and never ever editted before [17:41:00] how did i got this and how do i ask to remove it? [17:41:43] @notaracham since you're the one who blocked me can i ask how do i remove the block? [17:43:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496929575832125480/Screenshot_20260424_014332.jpg?ex=69ebabce&is=69ea5a4e&hm=3c31531f98da71106c492c93bf1dca9040346a72fa52b7e0dfadee279c8b33d4& [17:43:54] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496929622498218035/Screenshot_20260424_014323.jpg?ex=69ebabd9&is=69ea5a59&hm=b4646902c5b2688dabbef888c1bbd6840ef0d3438fac16e0a77bc4c2973322cf& [17:43:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496929623097737347/Screenshot_20260424_014332.jpg?ex=69ebabd9&is=69ea5a59&hm=74f8889958fc96da0cd6006b5571e33ed24914103c2f1f7a2c5320eea4752d47& [17:44:10] and also even though i verified my account how can't i still authenticate the bot? [17:46:40] This wasn't a direct block targeted at you but a general IP range that was blocked. Feel free to send username here or in DM and I can look into it [17:48:28] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496930771884183633/Screenshot_20260424_014323.jpg?ex=69ebaceb&is=69ea5b6b&hm=8acd1d0bd57a75a97142c5fdfdb60fa1c2c0b7e1b4633c7e9961f32b08736450& [17:48:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496930772261802115/Screenshot_20260424_014332.jpg?ex=69ebaceb&is=69ea5b6b&hm=400a22c7a896db93f82c0ae71b6a0e6fb6f456720f117b066cf6025f98e9d98b& [17:48:28] also [17:48:39] i tried to verify my miraheze account [17:48:59] but it shows this (the left) after i done the right [17:50:42] Again, would need to know your username to look into this, none of the screenshots provides that info. [17:50:57] I think that range can be safely dropped though, checking ont hat now [17:53:12] Alright, range has been dropped, please try again. [17:55:27] my username is EriaTheChar [17:56:07] anyway about that getting blocked issue it's gone [17:56:26] the only issue now i have is just getting my account verify to this server [17:56:49] Great! I don't see anything else that shoudl prevent it, I woudl recommend disconnecting the account in that panel then restarting the verification process [19:00:12] @kiju1108 are we giving out election stickers [19:03:35] I still have a bunch of Miraheze stickers laying around if anyone wants to dox themselves for free stickers. [19:03:57] raises my hand at the speed of light [19:05:44] Extremely tempting [19:06:50] [1/2] Ok lemme figure out how I can mail them because I've sent mail less than 5 times in my life. [19:06:50] [2/2] I think if I send an envelope it's around $1 within the US which is nothing and I'm happy to just mail it out of pocket. As for international shipping I'm not sure how much it would cost. [19:08:47] I'm within the continental USA and would happily chuck some cash your way to help cover expenses for int'l folks :janehuu: Or Nitro you or Github or w/e [19:09:19] I consider myself a patron of the arts (wikians are artists) [19:10:16] I'm in the USA as well! [19:12:17] [1/2] Hello, I need to remove the custom domain wikipedia.com.vn from my wiki business.miraheze.org. [19:12:17]