[00:21:52] Guys [00:22:09] so basically i have this wiki but i wanna change its handle/name [00:22:16] to another one but its already taken. BUT [00:22:20] that wiki is on the verge of shut down [00:22:26] its been inactive for over 135 days [00:22:32] so what can i do about it [00:24:54] [1/3] @atxatx, bit out of nowhere and I apologize, but I'm wondering if you'd have a better answer for the question here [00:24:55] [2/3] The best I have is basically I'm not sure but I know this wiki achieves it with a combination of entries at MediaWiki:Sidebar and the css file at . The question doesn't make it clear but it is indeed for the citizen skin. ^ is about what I can give which I think offers the second half but I'm not sure if any other prep is needed to set [00:24:55] [3/3] up an icon view, or if by default 'external' on the sidebar goes to an icon view [00:25:43] what's the wiki you have (just the domain name before .miraheze.org will do), and the wiki that is in the way [00:25:51] ruk [00:25:56] the one i want to get is called [00:25:57] ukb [00:32:35] I'm not Alistair, but I think [this thread]() might help? It has the JS and the CSS specifically for adding a Discord icon to the sidebar in Citizen skin (Battle Cats wiki example). [00:33:49] [1/3] No worries and happy to help 🙂 [00:33:49] [2/3] What we did was a dirty CSS hack that works for all skins. [00:33:49] [3/3] In [MediaWiki:Sidebar](https://starcitizen.tools/MediaWiki:Sidebar), we assigned a portlet named `External`. The name doesn't matter, it just acts as a selector in CSS. Then like you mentioned, with [MediaWiki:Citizen.css](https://starcitizen.tools/MediaWiki:Citizen.css), we use CSS to style and hack that specific portlet into a different location. [00:37:08] @janebuzjane linked to another approach there. Some wikis such as BattleCats insert a link/button with JS into the header, that works as well. [00:39:38] I should probably add a hook for adding a header item since everyone is asking for it 😅 [00:40:36] it does seem popular [00:41:05] <_chrs_, replying to raidarr> this wiki seems to have a fascinating common.css [00:42:16] <_chrs_> hiding the donation link and the talk page button [00:42:37] <_chrs_> plus the usual "skin-specific stuff in common which breaks things" [00:43:14] <_chrs_> (the one at help desk not star citizen lol) [00:46:02] I was very confused until that last line [00:46:17] interesting place indeed [00:46:45] starting to think we shouldnt allow for the removal of links and buttons we provide [00:48:18] like come on, you get a whole wiki for free and you remove the donation link on top of that? that dick move hurts more than the project [00:48:19] it rarely bodes well when people do it tbh [00:49:22] some of them are already problems if you mess with them like tos/privacy policy [00:49:28] outside of that I guess the rest is more elective [00:49:49] for now [01:18:01] Wait, Mirahaze allows fully nsfw wikis right? [01:21:38] maybe formatting, I've had tools try to export a html page to PDF and there would sometimes be stuff like a line of text that's half on one page and half on the other. I had to fix those by inspecting element and manually adding in `
`s, but if the document was anything more than like 3 pages that could add up [01:25:51] <_chrs_, replying to princesspaprika> subject to [[Content Policy#Not-safe-for-work wikis|certain restrictions]], yes [01:26:20] <_chrs_> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy#Not-safe-for-work_wikis [01:26:44] Could a wiki for ts60’s games wiki? [01:26:47] Work [01:27:19] <_chrs_, replying to princesspaprika> I don't know what those are, please explain [01:27:52] <_chrs_> but that does sound clearly scoped [01:28:40] is it time to send skye back to the rfc mines [01:28:53] Porn game dev, he makes porn games and sells than on Steam [01:29:04] might be a foundation policy type deal [01:29:49] do we even have a place that explicitly states what you're not allowed to hide [01:30:02] i dont think we do actually [01:31:41] We have wikis dedicated to NSFW games. That sounds fine. [01:31:48] Okay [01:31:49] Good [01:32:51] <_chrs_, replying to princesspaprika> you'll want to explain what topics those games cover in more detail in a wiki request, but yeah that's a clear scope and would probably be approved [01:33:36] Noted [01:39:10] Always assumed editing out stuff like that would violate tos. [01:39:23] suprisingly, no [01:39:26] Be specific [01:39:28] I mean tbh [01:39:40] it's not the easiest one to enforce [01:39:43] Twistedscarlett60 made an MLP dating simulator [01:39:46] And an MGQ inspired game [01:40:28] Fandom banned porn games a couple years ago [01:40:39] But Mirahaze allows at least some [01:40:41] I wasn't talking about that [01:40:49] I was talking about editing out certain stuff [01:41:10] oh Amelia blocked me [01:41:14] Like what [01:41:30] donation links and footer icons afaict [01:41:44] Huh? [01:41:55] replies to skye [01:42:16] Wait was Amelia talking about the nsfw games stuff or something else [01:42:22] something else [01:42:26] she was replying to skye [01:42:41] Ah, nvm then [03:08:23] huzzah [03:09:58] Yay! [03:10:15] wow is discord.gg/miraheze finally back on the menu [03:10:19] nope lmao [03:10:25] Hello, I like money [03:17:56] fr [05:02:22] There should be a custom invite link (and background!) and level 3 :thonking: wonder if it has to be remade [05:14:56] https://miraheze.org/discord :melt: [07:15:52] Hello. I was wondering if there is any way to allow Guests/new users to edit pages within a namespace. I have set  $wgNamespaceProtection to (none) with ManageWiki for the 'Frogatto' namespace on frogatto.miraheze.org. However, when logged out, I do not have the option to edit https://frogatto.miraheze.org/wiki/Frogatto:Frogatto. [07:22:34] that's weird [07:22:34] https://frogatto.miraheze.org/wiki/Frogatto:Red_Ant [07:22:46] the edit button shows up in anon for this page [07:25:57] Same for me with the read ant. [07:26:06] But not for Frogatto:Frogatto. [07:29:44] Doesn't look like toggling protection helps in any way. [07:30:15] Page protection is additive. If anons don't have the `edit` right they won't be able to edit anything. [07:30:40] So you'd need to give them the edit right and then add page protections to all namespaces except for the one you want them to be able to edit. [07:41:41] posix_memalign: Under Special:ListGroupRights, 'all' has 'Edit pages (edit)' listed in the rights. As an anon, the 'Edit' button shows up on 'Frogatto:Red Ant', but on 'Frogatto:Frogatto' there is only a view source button. Now I *can* click view source, and *presumably* submit and edit, seeing as I get the warning message about my IP address, and [07:41:41] the option to 'save changes'. However, I do not have any other machines I can test with, and I'd rather not show my IP. [07:41:42] I am fairly certain that I can edit Frogatto:Frogatto as anon. I just find it odd that there is only a 'view source' option present. [07:47:58] You protected the page [07:48:51] Oh nvm you removed it [07:50:05] I toggled it to see if the edit option would appear. [07:50:39] I purged that page and now it doesn't say view source [07:52:00] The view was cached on Varnish most likely, so it showed the state of the page from before it was unprotected [09:09:40] <.labster> Anyone know how to save a CSS page with what MW thinks is an invalid selector? :has is totally a real selector, guys [09:10:54] What is this "CAPTCHA" thing? I'm trying to send a message to another user. [09:11:15] TemplateStylea thinks :has is too new a syntax, so it refuses to even put it in the CSS sanitizer [09:13:40] <.labster> All I want is a basic parent selector. Guess I got to add another kilobyte to the page :/ [09:15:25] 😔 them's the breaks. No reason it can't be on Common.css / gadgets? [09:18:09] <.labster> Uh, mainly because I was trying to ship it as a package that other people could install. See, I'm designing a Calendar that loads events from Bucket. And I thought it would be cool to provide a CSS example that colors a whole day from an event, like a holiday. But that needs parental inheritance, or Lua being aware enough to class the parent element. [09:19:38] If you're just saving a CSS snippet you can change the content model from "Sanitized CSS" to "CSS". With "CSS" the editor complains a bit, but you can still save the page. [09:20:00] Can't apply the CSS page with TemplateStyles tho. Maybe Extension:CSS is different? [09:20:56] I mean Lua could be aware enough depending on how you're making the module [09:21:24] <.labster> Turing complete is Turing complete [09:22:12] <.labster> [1/2] Anyway it's coming along. I can probably copy to the bucket wiki in a couple days. [09:22:12] <.labster> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1497890531617800272/image.png?ex=69ef2ac4&is=69edd944&hm=d1afb8fc2192ac8bbc4aa96fe89efe7e9a9032e9314d5c76ad8e8bf630207093& [09:24:55] <.labster> Basically you do {{event|type=holiday|summary=New Year's Day|header=New Years}} on the Holidays page, and it will link you right to [[Holidays#New_Years]] [09:24:56] [09:25:45] <.labster> As always my colors suck [09:25:46] That feature looks amazing! [09:26:53] <.labster> And then edit the characters template, so birthdays get added automatically. [09:27:29] <.labster> I don't have recurring events support yet. [12:47:16] [[mw:Extension:TemplateStylesUnlimited]] can solve this actually 🤓 [12:47:17] [12:48:08] I just haven't sent it for review because I don't have immediate need for it on the one wiki I work on [12:52:14] `The disadvantage is that regular users lose the ability to write CSS stylesheets for content pages.` [12:53:29] I feel like using category based gadgets would work better than that extension [12:58:45] If it's for a single page maybe [13:01:06] Category based gadgets still don't work in preview and still mess with the browser cache if you load multiple gadgets [13:02:33] they do work in the 2010 editor reload based preview at least [13:03:07] re browser cache, TemplateStyles just gets never cached so I'm not sure the gadget approach would be much worse [13:04:28] Turning off the CSS Sanitizer is not a good idea [13:04:33] If TemplateStyles are small and the rest of the gadgets are big pretty sure it's worth it [13:06:47] If Gadgets had an option to split them into multiple bundles though that would probably be better [13:12:12] nice 🥳 [14:21:12] Yeah, having at least category gadgets in their own bundle would be useful. RL supports different bundles, so it should be fairly simple to patch that in gadgets [14:57:53] Hi everyone, I requested a wiki (name: KingSamme Wiki, request: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/79949) and it has been in review since yesterday. Could someone please provide an update on its status? Thanks in advance!" [14:58:30] <_arawynn> It's going to take a while, the Create Wiki AI isn't working and there are almost 100 requests in the queue [15:49:29] stupid clanker [16:08:06] Hi folks, we believe the auth issue is fixed, if someone could give it a try before we announce that would be excellent [16:13:47] [1/2] @raidarr [16:13:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1497994108235419754/image.png?ex=69ef8b3a&is=69ee39ba&hm=36fa00116024a6bcc1c374f9bef2d9461c9ba4baf08093dcc63547463a97ad13& [18:27:22] [1/2] yep, it's working thank u [18:27:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1498027726832140488/image.png?ex=69efaa8a&is=69ee590a&hm=b35a2c1af222f97e0e292a06f90520cfa935a6db0f3e5ae43be9c0cb9b0689dc& [18:47:56] It says wiki reviewers do that, not you. [18:48:02] You just need to wait patiently [18:48:15] There is nothing you can do that will speed it up [18:49:34] fixed by the owner of the bot [18:49:39] can confirm at WikiOasis [18:49:52] @_chrs_ has also successfully verified with WikiOasis as well [18:50:12] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1498033473502449804/B93AC689-2BE1-4FCA-80CA-7498EDAB1FA6.png?ex=69efafe4&is=69ee5e64&hm=82a04d344be3b3f41bfb26ee398bd87547cb9f265f5b8b58217267cb707b2797& [18:54:13] they're vietnamese so it might be worth I talk to them instead [18:55:08] Please advise them in Vietnamese that there is absolutely nothing they can do other than wait and asking will not be to their benefit @justanotherdarkmodeuser [18:58:40] Just speak English. [18:59:46] alright then, don't ask stewards/wiki reviewers about your request because it won't help you get your request reviewed faster, additionally stewards are really busy irl so their time should be spent on the most urgent matters [18:59:49] do you understand? [19:00:59] Thanks [19:01:02] [1/2] and here, rhinos is telling wiki reviewers to contact Raidarr before approving your request, not you specifically [19:01:02] [2/2] (though I think he should've placed the wiki reviewer note in english then vietnamese) [19:01:14] Yes, I understand, thank you. [19:02:20] is an automatic translation yea [19:36:02] [1/3] Hello! I am trying to display an mp4 on an page but I'm encountering this problem where the player appears without the video (I have enabled TMH + .mp4 format) [19:36:02] [2/3] Maybe there is something else I need to enable that I missed? [19:36:02] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1498045005653213304/image.png?ex=69efbaa1&is=69ee6921&hm=3e867b2e65933938d992fa26d8737a3daba328fde7d1d7dd7991a6bb81321f6c& [19:49:57] Link? [19:52:04] [1/2] It's right under note *5 [19:52:04] [2/2] https://fatamorgana.miraheze.org/wiki/Novectacle_x_NYDGamer_Interview#Interview_Notes [19:54:27] Did you upload the file before or after enabling MP4 uploads in TMH [19:56:25] I did upload it before, should I try reuploading? [19:58:16] You probably could yeah [20:36:56] [1/2] the problem, to be frank with you so you get an idea of the holdup which might take another couple days, is the existence of a multitude of wikis with a wikipedia landing page with content derived from wikipedia requested through an array of different yet interconnected accounts, and we are in the late stages of finishing outreach about that. We can conduct [20:36:56] [2/2] it on whichever talk page is most comfortable if you have a preference when that is finished, but we had Kudo Shinichi in mind as the best established involved account. If you have a different preference to contact further we could oblige but otherwise anything else on the matter will be communicated on-wiki [20:42:19] I wonder is this related to the reception wikis merger? [20:42:28] or is it completely different entirely [20:42:42] totally different [20:43:20] Not even on the same planet [20:43:27] I did not intend to be the only point of contact for that because multiple members are looking at it and it may not be me who issues the final message [22:01:40] Is there an average turnaround on Dormancy Policy exemptions requests? [22:03:22] similar to the rest of the SR in the category of 'needs some manual attention' so on the marginally slower end if someone isn't chewing everything out at once [22:03:33] I should be able to chew some SR today and NA has a bit of spare time as well [22:03:49] though currently spending it on investigation [22:04:52] no worries, I was just curious. I understand it's volunteer coordinated <3 [22:16:39] Once I'm out of the current deep hole of investigation I should be able to decimate some of the pending SR board stuff. [22:16:55] Thanks for bearing with us, folks.