[00:29:19] [1/2] Damn 15 years? [00:29:20] [2/2] I’m already having burnout from like 7 months… [00:30:05] That’s normal, especially when people start [00:49:05] ;-; [00:49:07] Dang [00:49:35] Just take it easy, there’s a lot to learn [02:32:38] how do i make my wiki look good. Like custom borders for galleries/thumbs, different fonts, colored backgrounds, that kind of thing [02:43:45] [1/3] CSS is the way to go [02:43:46] [2/3] [02:43:46] [3/3] [04:34:22] how long until my wiki request usually gets answered? [04:50:16] I'm currently having an issue with the infobox for my micronation [04:50:41] [1/3] I used the template [04:50:41] [2/3] {{Infobox country [04:50:42] [3/3] }} [04:50:46] But it doesn't work [04:51:54] [1/2] It got like this [04:51:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1503983100156448808/image.png?ex=6a0554e9&is=6a040369&hm=88362a75cfa0e50d064c8d758a71b12ee08dc51bee78ed1724d1e5bb8d876a93& [04:59:59] I saw infobox nation there, not the Infobox country like you said [05:21:57] I was mistaken [06:02:34] I tried Inforbox Country too but doesn't work [06:03:09] did you have Infobox Country template? [06:04:56] Oh I didn't, so it is required? [06:05:18] Yes, you need one in your wiki [06:05:24] I moved from Micronation Wiki so I'm not very good at Miraheze [06:05:30] Thanks for your help! [06:08:30] So how do I set up a template? [06:10:36] Copy the Template:Infobox Country from the Micronation Wiki to your wiki [06:17:44] [1/2] It got like this [06:17:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1504004701660643418/IMG_6697.png?ex=6a056907&is=6a041787&hm=d5ddd1ac14845a8bc8b3dc709ea7de597795b453ef3a32ad595ca385bdadd1b0& [06:18:44] [1/2] Hmm, no idea. [06:18:45] [2/2] Maybe you should ask in #support [08:46:54] [1/2] Just try to remember a wiki isn't going to be fixed in a day and is a gradual process of improvement, hence pages having revisions. [08:46:54] [2/2] It's ok to take a day away. [09:48:50] <_arawynn, replying to mediumbudget> [1/2] Usually about 2 to 3 days. [09:48:51] <_arawynn, replying to mediumbudget> [2/2] You can speed the necessary time up by addressing whatever the AI mentioned/asked so in best case whoever does your request can just approve after reading it [09:54:39] already done that :) [11:23:36] 59 days and 23 hours if we're measuring up to the point that dormancy starts being obnoxious [11:23:57] probably recommend a little sooner for editing momentum tho [11:35:53] If your nonstop editing for 7 months and feeling your reaching burnout, then a day or afternoon wont affect you too much. [11:37:29] oh yeah I'm still giving a range between 1 day and 59 [11:37:55] and I've blown myself out of writing and other activities for a month straight several times, sometimes its just what needs to happen [12:58:33] Fuck around and find out [13:01:15] usually templates fuck up like that. Simple way is to just write the thing as a class = "infobox" inside the wiki page. Usually making it "float" (position) right as per what my goblin said or smthn. Bored so just putting it out [13:01:50] (For more experienced people they prolly know how to do ts but as a newgen lowkey again fuck around and find out) [13:03:34] thanks [13:03:46] Some anonymous hero helped me [13:04:03] Don't know him but his glory is immortal [13:04:30] Do you mean someone else in a different place or what [13:04:39] I'm just bored [13:08:32] Oh yeah incase u wanna do something with battles the process is just the same but you just change info [13:08:54] Tis easy 🔥 [13:56:22] can someone help in this? [13:57:58] you may have more fortune with that in a committed support thread which is less likely to be buried [14:12:12] Is it possible to do and and or operations with strings in templates? [14:12:50] ok forget it, i realized it that you cant color links [14:13:27] Or should I just make my own template/module to evaluate this [14:14:19] oh or... dev string module [14:39:19] any plans to upgrade citizen? [14:51:52] [1/2] is there a specific threshold for gif size so that this error doesn't show up? [14:51:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1504134090004103229/image.png?ex=6a05e188&is=6a049008&hm=b194d35e2b14318e7efd8a5c5be44e4dbe79ab53b4024759357f23d5f2421e8c& [14:53:53] you can colour links with css [14:54:26] `{{#if}}`, `{{#ifeq}}`, `{{#switch}}`, [[mh:Help:parser Functions [14:54:43] [[mh:Help:parser Functions]] do you work now [14:54:44] [14:55:26] yup, just couldn't figure with those how to do "if x = y and a = b" situation - but the dev module string combined with #ifexpr and so on is working for me! [14:55:38] I should just paste the full link smh [14:55:49] (granted it is rather hellish to look at and I think a real module may just serve me better here...) [14:56:29] depends on how complex your thing is [14:57:01] a module that's 3 lines of actual logic is probably unnecessary compared to parser functions [14:57:39] [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:KYLOBF2 [14:57:39] [2/2] What is this? [15:00:27] you can? [15:00:58] Looks like a wiki article used for someone's User bio on accident. [15:02:10] yeah just with `color`. either use css to colour the links or you could `[[page|aaa/span]]` [15:04:31] but I did and the color remained the same [15:04:53] i even used other commands like text-decoration: none and the link remained with its default look [15:06:39] [1/2] welll..... 😅 I am the champion of over-engineering [15:06:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1504137808237826079/image.png?ex=6a05e4ff&is=6a04937f&hm=fcfc90d18a2d3de5cc2d1364a1fa14d911f4f4c84fc5caba7d72e087a850b88d& [15:06:40] could you link the wiki [15:07:08] oh my god [15:07:22] yeah for that I would use Lua [15:07:28] may have had a moment of sunk-cost fallacy [15:07:49] I know if I enabled bucket I would do much the same [15:13:35] [1/2] You may have to wait until the cache updates, or you may be targeting the wrong element [15:13:35] [2/2] But wthout a wiki link and knowing what exactly you want to do it's difficult for anyone to provide detailed support [15:47:02] [1/2] https://amcfoundationofficial.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:ComfirmationMenuTable?action=submit [15:47:02] [2/2] The parts saying ```{{{POSITIVE}}}``` and ```{{{NEGATIVE}}}``` are supposed to be the links, the span there is giving them color and removing deco, however the links (when I implement the template) stay that same no matter what I do, i even tried to do these spans outside of the template (in the page itself) but it doesnt work [15:52:58] It's probably something in the template PRE Editable which looks to use
 code blocks, which don't really support text colors without weird hacks
[15:54:07] 	  damn...
[15:54:23] 	  And it looks like you tried to go this route a few months ago? 
[15:55:14] 	  Would recommend emulating the look of 
 with CSS rather than using the tag itself
[15:56:13] 	  that way the code doesnt work :Yellow:
[15:57:15] 	  [1/2] You just want a monospaced font and a dotted border against a gray background right
[15:57:15] 	  [2/2] Or are there other properties of pre you are trying to use
[15:59:51] 	  I gave you the code yesterday but you have to style the links with a pipe like so [[My link|Test/span]]
[16:00:46] 	  The outer span does apply a color but the link itself gets a color and text decoration too, that's why it makes more sense to style the link that way
[16:01:50] 	  so essentially, i cant really remove the deco and change the color from a template, i need to do it within a link
[16:02:02] 	  you can
[16:02:20] 	  but instead of typing a link within the article you write the link in the template
[16:02:58] 	  see first link
[16:03:56] 	  wait so can I just do ```[[{{{MYLINK}}}||YES``` and it will work as I intend it?
[16:04:00] 	  yes
[16:04:08] 	  well not the second pipe but yes
[16:04:26] 	  [1/2] ```html
[16:04:27] 	  [2/2] [[{{{MYLINK}}}|YES/span]]```
[16:08:41] 	  ok....
[16:08:48] 	  so...
[16:09:22] 	  [1/2] this is how it looks on the page that is applying the template
[16:09:22] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1504153591211102422/Captura_de_ecra_2026-05-13_170858.png?ex=6a05f3b1&is=6a04a231&hm=12e210ac5995ef092b4427748d8060de815d2e8b9d649e23d91cdf031a77f8c4&
[16:10:05] 	  [1/2] and this on the template
[16:10:05] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1504153770508943632/Captura_de_ecra_2026-05-13_170858.png?ex=6a05f3dc&is=6a04a25c&hm=9f455418ac536f3b87e16b16b4f8518769244c4238dd20e7eb8429c39d2216fc&
[16:12:04] 	  You probably wrote a link there
[16:12:12] 	  in the article
[16:12:19] 	  which breaks the template link
[16:12:33] 	  [1/6] this is how the article looks ```{{ComfirmationMenuTable
[16:12:33] 	  [2/6] |POSITIVE=
[16:12:34] 	  [3/6] [[ANOM-001_Daybreak]]
[16:12:34] 	  [4/6] |NEGATIVE=
[16:12:34] 	  [5/6] [[Abnormality List]]
[16:12:34] 	  [6/6] }}```
[16:12:41] 	  wait...
[16:12:57] 	  remove the [[ ]]
[16:12:58] 	  was I supposed to remove the double straight brackets on both?
[16:13:01] 	  omg...
[16:13:08] 	  :skull:
[16:13:13] 	  yes, the link is created by the template so you were creating a link within a link
[16:13:17] 	  im the most stupid person in the world
[16:13:43] 	  We all a lil silly and das okey
[16:14:00] 	  yep....
[16:14:01] 	  it...
[16:14:03] 	  it works now
[16:14:51] 	  i hate being the only admin in my damned wiki
[16:15:36] 	  Now you know how it feels for me who does the technical and proofreading side while my other admin writes the articles
[16:16:02] 	  i do EVERYTHING...and I hate it
[16:16:13] 	  thank god my community is so small and non-demanding
[16:17:13] 	  I want that omg
[16:17:39] 	  I have to handle both sides and can't say writing is my forte
[16:18:37] 	  Since my other admin is the person I'm making for his fandom, it'd make sense.
[16:19:37] 	  And me having to rewrite some things, and ask for clarification cause wat da faq was he intending?
[16:47:55] 	  Coding, image sourcing, research, writing and proof reading
[16:51:49] 	  yeah T_T
[17:43:57] 	  {{Displaytitle}}
[17:43:58] 	  
[17:44:05] 	  hmmm
[17:45:31] 	  the characters [ ] cannot be used in a page title normally, yet they managed to do it here in this wiki https://limbuscompany.wiki.gg/wiki/Tears_of_the_Tarnished_Blood_%E6%B1%9A%E8%A1%80%E6%B3%A3%E6%B7%9A_Hong_Lu
[17:45:57] 	  They changed the display title
[17:46:04] 	  yeah thats what i was trying to say
[17:46:06] 	  hang on
[17:46:08] 	  maybe i missed something
[17:46:35] 	  Try disabling `$wgRestrictDisplayTitle` at Special:ManageWiki/settings
[17:46:59] 	  ah
[17:47:00] 	  sweet
[17:47:06] 	  always gotta remember to check settings ehe
[17:47:45] 	  when in doubt, look at the settings and extensions truly
[17:49:05] 	  and now i wait for the whole wiki to update to see if it worked
[17:49:06] 	  The default of this setting will be changed soon, as a lot of people get confused by it 
[17:49:41] 	  valid
[17:50:25] 	  it was just a pet peeve for a while cause i couldnt figure it out
[17:50:35] 	  and putting hanzi in [ ] looks cooler than ( )
[17:51:09] 	  and its updated
[17:51:10] 	  fabulous
[17:51:25] 	  [1/2] i mean it still looks a little odd but i think thats just my skin
[17:51:25] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1504179274280599692/image.png?ex=6a060b9d&is=6a04ba1d&hm=4f5623dc990049cd4bb33a12c96f04fb4ec878ea66cbb735c0882ae5660bda6c&
[17:51:30] 	  usin citizen lmao
[18:06:59] 	  Citizen does this for all titles in the format of `FOO (BAR)` as well
[18:07:16] 	  idk if there's even a way to disable it
[18:07:49] 	  its kinda funny looking
[18:07:53] 	  but i kinda like it in a way
[18:07:58] 	  it has a nice touch to it
[18:08:09] 	  i would like to know if theres a way to disable it incase i change my mind though
[18:09:18] 	  this is like my first time writing a wiki im looking foward to writing
[18:19:54] 	  [1/2] https://github.com/StarCitizenTools/mediawiki-skins-Citizen/blob/e704bcc44e66fa8a0729e5dee516699ada66830f/includes/Components/CitizenComponentPageHeading.php#L178
[18:19:54] 	  [2/2] Not from the code, as far as I can tell
[18:20:41] 	  fabulous
[18:20:55] 	  do you mind linking to that page i think i got an idea and i want to test it out
[18:21:16] 	  yeah sure, feel free
[18:21:17] 	  https://reconvergentfates.miraheze.org/wiki/Sanzu-no-Kawa_(Noble_Phantasm)
[18:23:20] 	  a
[18:23:26] 	  b
[18:23:51] 	  [1/2] so...like this?
[18:23:51] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1504187429882433559/image.png?ex=6a061335&is=6a04c1b5&hm=4e8793d8cfa290cd2f674375933f0d3a1d36be1767a1281345b766164616a3ca&
[18:24:08] 	  yeah precisely
[18:24:37] 	  feel free to save the page as such, i think i might make a Project: page to save it for later and take a look if id like to
[18:24:43] 	  [1/6] ```css
[18:24:43] 	  [2/6] / Make parenthesis in page titles look normal /
[18:24:44] 	  [3/6] .mw-page-title-parenthesis {
[18:24:44] 	  [4/6]     all: inherit;
[18:24:44] 	  [5/6]     display: inline;
[18:24:45] 	  [6/6] }```
[18:24:50] 	  alright sweet thanks
[18:25:09] 	  you can technically write【 SOMETHING 】too
[18:25:12] 	  this goes in mediawiki:common.css im guessing?
[18:25:34] 	  Personally I'd put it in MediaWiki:Citizen.css because it's skin-related but yeah Common.css works
[18:25:39] 	  valid
[18:39:13] 	  I love the BucketGet abuse. You even took advantage of the fact that template arguments work inside userformat.
[19:02:27] 	 I need a stewards help, our wiki was discussing forking to miraheze but a non-admin stole and abandoned a wiki using the subdomain we were going to use
[19:17:18] 	  If it's been more than 60 days since the wiki with the subdomain you want has been active, you could adopt the wiki and have it reset to base settings
[19:19:02] 	  depending if the wiki is dead and was not used virtually at all it is possible it could be taken over outright
[19:19:17] 	  would recommend raising the case to the SR, probably on the misc page with the full situation
[19:20:22] 	 Adoption is a hassle, I want admin and to import my content. I am upset someone stole our subdomain.
[19:21:39] 	 Also your a steward can you fix this?
[19:22:14] 	  [1/3] likely not; for reference to others:
[19:22:15] 	  [2/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/80011#mw-section-details
[19:22:15] 	  [3/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:NotAracham?diff=prev&oldid=536772
[19:22:22] 	 I can’t edit SR I am not autoconfirmed.
[19:23:03] 	  [[SR/M]] has no protections
[19:23:14] 	  
[19:23:24] 	 Ok but how long do i have to wait?
[19:37:23] 	 definitely more than the patience you had to wait for an answer
[19:38:31] 	 anyway looks like someone in the community got ahead before the decision was finalized
[20:34:12] 	  oh yeah I remember lido now
[20:34:30] 	  I briefly skimmed some of their migration discussion but it was in relevance to oasis
[22:23:27] 	  I pray the UT/DT Vector 2022 skin fork gets a security review and suceeds so it can be added to Miraheze
[22:24:04] 	  Because I'm sure people would consider using that skin over Cosmos/Normala Vector 2022
[22:34:13] 	  [1/2] why isnt the image showing
[22:34:14] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1504250444933759077/IMG_7844.png?ex=6a064de5&is=6a04fc65&hm=90786b17d23f82b5740e419e61dc320af754d6fd8a28adf822faa3061458675a&
[22:54:15] 	  Did you put double square brackets around it like `[[File:Slowedbreathing.webp]]`?
[23:17:09] 	  I am concerned that my wikis on Miraheze will close down and be deleted due to inactivity, and the wikis I own are about Roblox games that no longer get any updates. I will be graduating high school and go off to college in a few months and might not have enough free time there.
[23:17:47] 	  https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dormancy_Policy