[00:06:24] no like in the skin itself [00:11:11] Just to add, there is a version selector at `main v` that you can choose the right docs for the version you are using [00:19:22] is someone able to verify that it's now hidden ? [[mh:acosaa]] might need to add ?debug=2 to the url [00:19:29]

[00:50:06] hi [01:03:36] Tis a guest [01:26:29] Heya [02:56:23] hey [02:57:46] im trying to get the civilian theme on my wiki, so i go to extensions, themes, check and save civilian. Then i go to settings, styling, and default styles, but it doesnt show up [02:57:49] can someone help? [03:25:00] hi. do you mean citizen? have you set `citizen` for the default skin in Additional settings? [03:52:28] sorry yes [03:59:20] i think that worked [03:59:22] tysm [05:48:20] [1/2] is there a way to get the sidebar to appear as a popup menu that is closed by default, but only for this specific template that uses it? not the entire sidebar template, by spec this one [05:48:20] [2/2] https://reconvergentfates.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:LiangshanUpper [07:53:37] [1/2] Hello! I created a Phorge request to redirect my wiki's URLs permanently to my custom domain but not sure if I did it correctly. Is there a specific project I should assign it to? [07:53:38] [2/2] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T15409 [07:55:16] [1/2] I added the appropriate projects. [07:55:16] [2/2] It just requires someone to make a PR to https://github.com/miraheze/ssl [07:55:30] Ah perfect, thank you very much [07:55:34] Feel free to do it yourself. Otherwise someone will get to it when they have the time. [08:46:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global the 2 templates are the exact same [09:11:48] [1/2] Can i check this is the right config to have the wiki go to wiki.domain.com without affecting the shopify site [09:11:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1506947610794004511/image.png?ex=6a101dd4&is=6a0ecc54&hm=ccf692d293e19c4455a8c8b7e28c1138e2d73a695fe3d4c0eca0d54969c3c6bc& [10:28:08] does miraheze have preventions for data scrapers [10:33:07] yes we have quite a few cloudflare rules in place to stop them [12:45:20] also how does someone change the colors of the Metro and Pivot themes [12:52:16] via css [13:48:00] well yes im the bcrat mentioned here https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T15406 [14:04:47] added a pull request link https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/6419 [14:06:00] you can comment the PR in the task & someone from miratech will merge it soon [14:06:05] i did [14:06:14] Ok [14:06:18] ok [14:24:30] how [15:24:51] Will the miraheze AI respond to my comment? [15:25:13] I've requested to make wiki for my game but it won't respond me [15:27:03] The AI only does initial triage, after that it goes to human review which takes 2-3 days [15:27:13] Oh shoot [15:27:14] 💔 [15:34:06] Robots may be takin' r jerbs, but hoomans still get the finals say. [16:30:30] <_arawynn, replying to ontio> If you adressed what the AI mentioned there's a good chance it can get approved without further questions by a wiki reviewer [16:31:47] I've handwrote about things what the AI mentioned it and commented it [16:52:41] ^ [16:53:35] alternatively, what can i add to `Template:Sidebar` to make it closed by default, cause it may also be easier to simply make a new template called `Template:SidebarClosed` or something [16:53:36] https://reconvergentfates.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Sidebar [17:04:51] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1507059083939942622 [17:25:45] how do i add the cavendish theme [18:14:14] the votes r closed [18:14:16] what happens now? [18:16:36] [1/4] The elections page covers the next steps: [18:16:36] [2/4] * the votes are being tallied by the elections committee (kiju) [18:16:37] [3/4] * they'll send the results to the secretary (me) when they're ready. [18:16:37] [4/4] * The board convenes, reads out results, and vote to confirm them [18:16:54] At this point we're on step one of three [18:17:39] (Since we had a bit of delay launching this year, confirmation + board convening might slip into June, but probably early june at worst.) [18:26:30] a solo committee [18:26:36] iirc kiju is the only non board steward though [18:26:45] so makes sense [18:35:39] Confirming I'm on step one and working on the tallies right now [18:38:40] Technically Void is also a non-board steward, but since I'm pretty much the only active one right now so it defaults to a solo committee anyway. Makes sense [18:45:45] i tried using css it's fucking hell [18:46:51] There's not really much to do other than use css [18:47:14] i want to change the colors of the rectangles but i can't figure it out [18:47:31] i wanted one rectangle to be magenta but now the text in it is magenta [18:49:16] [1/2] using my friend's wiki for an example [18:49:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1507092933449482342/bj0z4kx.png?ex=6a10a52b&is=6a0f53ab&hm=6a1c8ddf8dbe6518beeb0ad30f9df222916b60572cece79bb324a9c4c3f1e994& [19:09:57] Yep. We'd like to have more but current rules-as-written box out essentially anyone else due to conflicts. e.g. I as DT&S am also a candidate [19:10:47] Something we'll hopefully be remedying for future runs with expanding the list of trusted individuals, and setting clear responsibilities for who is supposed to kick off /spearhead elections [19:42:10] [1/2] any idea what's causing the miraheze and mediawiki "buttons" to look like this on my wiki? [19:42:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1507106248481439824/image.png?ex=6a10b192&is=6a0f6012&hm=eff27716096e8a622ce300489d303dd4141df1f74963f98be01f54b362684dc0& [19:42:28] could be a css thing but it's inconsistent between pages and not in a way that lines up with where I've tried to do namespace-specific CSS [19:42:38] https://zootopia.miraheze.org [19:43:50] [1/2] hey so how the fuck is this supposed to work [19:43:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1507106668675076186/vvr74jb.png?ex=6a10b1f6&is=6a0f6076&hm=37da52aa9e84b3e974adf67feffc5a0cea3c5d32547f94b846b3504aad2b6e5a& [19:44:00] use ``background-color`` not ``color`` [19:44:02] do i just install my wiki [19:44:10] ok [19:44:16] go to Special:ManageWiki/skins on your wiki [19:44:23] Miraheze simplifies that process [19:46:29] i know [19:46:35] but i can't see cavendish [19:46:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1507107454507552789/9nv3562.png?ex=6a10b2b1&is=6a0f6131&hm=6e8bb0cacdd8ab0846321ed559458318ae8ec869cc7114034464830eedc22332& [19:47:00] oh it's Special:ManageWiki/extensions#mw-section-skins [19:47:06] to install skins [19:47:26] looks like miraheze don't have cavendish there yet though [19:47:53] oh come on man [19:48:06] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/7/ to request it [19:48:25] [1/2] also [19:48:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1507107821660012604/dq68r77.png?ex=6a10b309&is=6a0f6189&hm=41cd2d515186be995b6d72885edf242530e39e6c5f77da3657b62c13b0308e50& [19:49:45] yeah [20:00:12] no one has requested it [20:01:35] see [[Phorge]] and https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/7/ [20:01:36]

[20:03:18] that conversation kind of drowned out my original question [20:07:39] Miraheze is weird like that [20:07:55] so it's not something I have any way to fix? [20:11:41] [1/2] You probably can; it's likely something with your page background overriding it [20:11:41] [2/2] Try using inspect element in your browser and toggling rules on and off until it fixes itself, and then you'll know what to change in your css [20:12:39] base vector 2010 CSS doesn't account for differently colored backgrounds [20:12:53] i would refrain from making false statements [20:13:01] weird thing is that it works on some pages [20:13:41] Since you're targeting certain namespaces it might be something related to that [20:15:28] weird, is some CSS in heaven [20:23:49] it doesn't coincide with that at all [20:24:00] i guess it could still be that, but I doubt it [20:24:17] if anything it seems to be page length [20:24:24] in that they only break if they're visible on page load [20:24:58] but that's not fully consistent either [20:30:06] the `a` has a background but the `li` doesn't [20:31:00] i see something like that in inspect-element that's getting overridden [20:31:00] thank [20:34:51] there's some CSS for cdx-buttons that's not being loaded for some reason [20:39:24] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1507059083939942622 [20:50:39] god bless universallanguageselector loading codex css when skins don't [20:51:42] ok [20:52:04] Why [20:52:14] oke [21:05:21] turning that on didn't fix my issue [21:06:03] css, as always, is cached https://zootopia.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page?debug=2 [21:06:18] i spammed bypass cache but that didn't work [21:06:25] that link worked though [21:06:48] https://shouldiblamecach.ing [21:06:49] we invented a special form of caching hell to maximize user agony [21:06:50] as always [21:07:04] [NickLoL](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/971203726389940235.webp?size=48&name=NickLoL&lossless=true) [21:07:13] with a high ROI [22:19:55] question... is there such thing as too many files on a wiki? if so what would you consider the limit? [22:33:29] [1/2] Please do keep in mind that MH is a shared resource, our hosting for files should be for things that will legitimately get used for furtherance of a project. [22:33:29] [2/2] We don't enforce any strict limits and some projects will inherently use more storage than others, but If you start exceeding 5GB, it might be worth looking at other approaches. [22:34:11] E.g. especially heavy files like video should be served from elsewhere [22:34:50] got it [22:35:04] is there a way to see the total file size? [22:35:20] also, we're cautious about necessary files. we delete stuff that isnt used [22:35:26] Sure, Special:MediaStatistics [22:35:30] thanks [22:36:14] we're at 1.3GB. Phew... i thought itd be more [22:36:42] Yeah, don't worry at all. You're a far sight away from being like AVID, which has legitimate use case but very substantial storage needs. [22:37:06] They've been diligent on pruning and still weigh in at ~61GB [22:37:19] :shocked: [22:37:20] wow [22:37:38] AVID: Audio Visual Identity Database, and boy do they deliver on that. 😄 [22:37:55] thats like.... a whole cellphone Christ [22:38:19] Really the ask is that folks be reasonable about uploading what gets used and at a scale that's appropriate. [22:38:39] AVID is so great but also intimidating. [22:39:12] 4k-scaled glossy PNGs of every single possible screen state in a game... not so much tolerated [22:39:26] (^thing that actually happened and ate half a TB before we caught on) [22:39:38] Equestripedia is around 1-2 GB I think. I still feel a little guilty when I upload a lot of pictures of toys or stuff. [22:40:43] I always throw ‘em here and get the JPEGs https://squoosh.app [22:41:06] Great approach, jpg is much much lighter and generally not too bad on loss of fidelty [22:42:42] thanks for the link i'll start doing that myself. [22:42:43] ooh, thats a good idea... i will pin this in our wiki server [22:56:06] my phone actually has more in Photos lo [22:56:38] before yesterday I kept full copies locally so I was living at 125/128GBs used [23:02:36] Same [23:04:04] I’ve been saving local backups as far as 2013. But to be fair. I barely took pics back then and phones quality was too bad to be an issue [23:04:11] Now, RAW photos… [23:12:44] I am a photographer I can confirm the hell [23:14:54] meanwhile https://wiki.creaturathegame.com/wiki/Special:MediaStatistics [23:15:07] not even 1gb [23:18:21] I struggle to edit them but I’m practicing [23:18:55] the 3 files that shall not be named [23:32:05] i assume that's the wiki Aracham was referencing? [23:32:44] nope [23:33:09] also he's clearly not Aracham, which is why his name is NotAracham smh [23:33:58] also a closed wiki on a custom domain, rip [23:50:06] [1/2] @thewwrnerdguy kat wewe im calling you? [23:50:06] [2/2] Are u sure ? [23:54:47] personally for most images I just use a pretty neat image compressor site, it typically cuts png size by like 80% (typically around 300-400kb, sometimes a bit less or more depending on the image) while having literally imperceptible quality loss [23:54:55] only thing it struggles with is obvious light gradients [23:58:23] uhhh [23:58:47] he type.. [23:58:48] Nice! If there's a version that gets PNG down to a clean sub-cut while still still keeping it a PNG, sure. [23:59:07] Not too pressed on the exact format [23:59:52] 👀 [23:59:54] hot take but if the files are actually being used and you're nowhere near 10gb then you shouldn't worry at all