[00:09:00] testing [03:24:09] Is there by chance a place where I can test what templates to make and how they would look? [03:32:59] public test wiki iirc [03:33:03] Publictestwiki.org [03:33:23] Err, .com [03:34:43] evil `.com` of doom [03:35:16] speaking of, why is the domain `.com`, thought it would use the same domain as miraheze does? [03:44:52] thank you! [07:26:38] [1/2] any tips for javascript sometimes not loading in properly? [07:26:38] [2/2] im using https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Tab and sometimes the javascript for it doesn't load in. it's become a common enough issue that users have reported it to me and im unsure what 2 do [10:55:06] is there a list of STARTER templates that can be imported to a new wiki (similarly to wiki.gg DLW)? browing through all templates on the dev wiki there's just TOO many of them. [10:56:05] [1/2] we have been testing default loadouts recently [10:56:06] [2/2] As for what you can do on your wiki, I'd say just import templates as and when you need them [10:59:07] well the issue is it's hard to know what is there available when there's so many templates [10:59:23] a curated "starter-pack" list would be really nice to have [11:16:24] What was the link for the 30 day viewer statistics? [11:26:01] Well a starter pack is going to look very different for most wikis. [11:27:12] surely every wiki needs {{ambox}}, {{documentation}}, {{hatnote}}, char escape templates [11:27:19]

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[3/3] [11:27:20] the most basic ones [11:28:02] people who don't know what these templates are likely won't find them in the hay stack of 500 templates [11:29:05] I don't use any of those. [11:29:58] <_arawynn> I'd say NavBox [11:34:40] I think wiki.gg has the advantage of only allowing fairly specific types of wikis into their farm. It’d make more sense for them to have a starting pack than Miraheze imo, but maybe a curated list of “recommended templates” on dev could be useful [11:39:45] Documentation can be in every wiki. I don't use hatnote and type `:''something''` manually. I don't like the ambox/fmbox/imbox/tmbox family and would much rather a single mbox template be created. [11:40:12] mb I meant mbox yeah [11:40:44] still my point stands having a nice curated list to alteast pick from would be nice [11:40:50] I'm in favor of creating a list of frequently used templates on dev and another list of interesting templates. Reorganizing dev has been considered many times in the past but never gained enough momentum for implementation. [11:41:06] Ive even found some duplicate templates, templates without a proper description, examples [11:41:12] This idea has come up many times in the past tbh. [11:41:24] good idea [11:41:55] Those should be deleted or moved to userspace. Maybe leave a message on the community portal and ping pppery. [11:43:08] [1/4] Ill throw it a suggestion to make a navbox of some sorts for templates of the same category and improve examples, for example here's wikigg: [11:43:08] [2/4] https://defaultloadout.wiki.gg/wiki/Special:Search?search=Template%3A!( [11:43:09] [3/4] https://defaultloadout.wiki.gg/wiki/Template:Hatnote [11:43:09] [4/4] https://defaultloadout.wiki.gg/wiki/Template:Ambox/doc [11:45:21] where's this exactly? [11:45:28] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Developers_Wiki:Community_portal [11:46:53] I think I said this somewhere many months ago lol and wrote https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_templates_navbox. Unfortunately with the number of templates on dev it'll be a lot of work to properly organize. [11:47:37] good effort [12:19:53] pspp [12:41:35] is it the browser failing or the js? [12:41:50] ive had a problem previously where my js wasnt setup to wait for everything to load first [12:41:59] sometimes itd try to run beforehand and error [12:41:59] Should be in Special:Analytics [12:43:11] sometimes the js just doesnt load from what i can tell [12:44:06] when it next happens open devtools console and send ss [12:44:39] Kind of an issue [12:44:41] it happens to [12:44:42] EVERYONE [12:44:43] but me [12:46:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041063282435428433/1370222627687235646/togif.gif [12:46:58] send ur js page here and maybe someone will be kind enough to look [12:48:03] its genuinely just one line [12:48:22] but we don't know what line is [12:49:00] let me read ur mind to find out the one line [12:49:10] give me a second bro im doing market research for the wiki [12:49:19] https://tenor.com/view/lord-save-us-guy-praying-in-car-kpoptwt-stantwt-donald-trump-save-us-gif-15614229185854802474 [12:49:22] market research [12:49:45] oque [12:50:00] [1/2] ```mw.loader.load("https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/lihaohong6/MirahezeDevScripts@dist/dist/Tab/gadget-impl.js");``` [12:50:00] [2/2] this is the problem line [12:50:13] let me get an example from one of my users uhh [12:51:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1508814739340529674/Bugreport2.mp4?ex=6a16e8ba&is=6a15973a&hm=aaad32b39b06c6004726a0ba75ba236c24edf8e2c8a622382cc40fe836954ffd& [12:53:22] does anyone who doesnt use brave have the issue [12:54:13] i'm more concerned about the taskbar at the top [12:54:59] im also concerned [12:55:02] works fine for me on vivaldi [12:55:12] vivaldi mentioned? [12:55:15] (Also hai unai) [12:55:34] browsers are 70% of the discussion in here [12:55:48] yep [12:55:59] Copy-paste the content of https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/lihaohong6/MirahezeDevScripts@dist/dist/Tab/gadget-impl.js into a local gadget/common.js on your wiki. [12:56:08] why not use tabberneue [12:56:15] ^^ [12:56:17] because umm vertical tabs [12:56:21] :duhh: [12:56:25] ? [12:56:27] ? [12:56:31] dpmo [12:56:31] ? [12:56:37] sob [12:56:43] also it has better image support [12:56:47] ? [12:56:57] i've tried to put images into tabberneue before and it sucked [12:57:17] what do you mean [12:57:33] images as tabs ig [12:58:14] [1/2] we got a template dat has images in the tabber button, it didnt work so great on tabberneue for me [12:58:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1508816532673790022/image.png?ex=6a16ea65&is=6a1598e5&hm=133bf9b804c734b012f24169dc816af7bbb12bb73af4ff7bf01e1f921f10deec& [12:59:54] this tab template, on the other hand, is able to function w images better [13:32:32] This did not work, and only properly broke the javascript. [13:32:40] Unless I'm being really stupid. [13:36:59] send the page [13:38:20] [1/2] https://forsaken.wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-TabTemplate.js [13:38:21] [2/2] https://forsaken.wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition [13:39:09] it isnt indented because the gods above did not bless me with that [13:39:34] even with everything broken for everyone else it still works? for me? and its rlly confusing [13:39:51] because when i go incognito it breaks [13:44:38] doyou have anything in your local css/js [13:45:14] I temporarily had the loader in my JS for like a few days but its not there anymore plus I have purged my cache multiple times afterwards [14:10:52] okay if ur free for like 2 seconds could you go onto https://forsaken.wiki/Jane_Doe#Abilities and check if the buttons there work [14:11:12] since im 99% sure you've never touched this wiki in ur life so u'll be using most up-to-date javascript [14:13:22] Buttons work for me [14:13:36] Incognito mode, kiwi browser, android [14:14:23] you know css exists right [14:15:45] yes but also image buttons [14:15:57] those just shit themselves when i try with tabberneue [14:16:27] css also exists for these [14:22:24] [1/2] it doesnt [14:22:24] [2/2] trying to implement images causes the tabber to bug out [14:30:24] what if it was all a dream [14:35:32] CSS? We still use HTML... [14:39:17] [14:39:46] more like marqueevil tag that should never be used [14:40:01] i advocate for the obliteration of center and big in mw wikis [14:40:05] what did mkbhd do [14:46:25] We use center a lot [14:46:30] Because I’m too lazy [14:59:33] how long does it take for volunteers to check a wiki and approve it? [15:00:34] depends day to day, but currently calculated backlog is around [15:01:19] alright, thank you. [15:07:26] they hate the little trick of assigned color-mix to a css variable [17:06:27] [1/2] I'll help the first 10 people interested on how to start earning $100k or more within a week, but you will reimburse me 10% of your profits when you receive it. Note: only interested people should send a friend request or send me a dm! ask me (HOW) via Telegram username @EmilyYosef. [17:06:27] [2/2] Or use the link in my bio [17:07:14] got em [17:14:26] I never know if I should ping mods when scams happen or not [17:14:48] I do if nobody else has [17:18:40] i always ping the discord moderator role and they havent killed me [17:18:42] yet [17:45:27] That’s what you think. [17:53:37] hell is a wiifarm [17:55:00] [1/3] how else do you think wiis are made [17:55:00] [2/3] they grew and harvested them [17:55:01] [3/3] only stopped because of the wii blight [17:56:47] you should unless you see them get sniped live [17:59:47] oh damn is this a omae wa mou shindeiru moment [18:00:52] murder pix is, in fact, real, and can hurt you [18:01:35] oh but pix is a 👶 . he's so cute! he could never murder anyone! [18:01:55] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156734890537140256/1488123941825413220/sneak.gif [18:05:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1508893954626556074/sw_comission_fire_chibi.png?ex=6a173280&is=6a15e100&hm=ce008f600c9614c008511497ece84cb722cf1700eaba610a45132d44af956d4a& [18:06:08] see, would this face harm anyone? [18:06:37] Absolutely [18:07:01] There is an incredible amount of violence behind those shades [18:08:16] nah [18:08:28] look at that smile [18:08:35] would a murderer smile [18:08:46] probably [18:09:20] but anyway you're too adorable to kill anyone [18:10:04] if you're ever in need of a character witness in a murder trial you know who to call [18:37:22] I think I’ve been sleeping on oklch, pretty goated actually [18:44:09] the martians did a really amazing blog on it [18:44:25] https://evilmartians.com/chronicles/oklch-in-css-why-quit-rgb-hsl [18:44:54] a must read for everyone interested in color and css imo [18:46:49] yeah I saw, it’s pretty cool [19:00:22] They tout accessibility as a feature but can't even be bothered to write out the full word 🙄 boooooooo [19:01:17] xD thank you for that comment, I didn't even know what they meant till you said that lol [19:02:05] I thought it was some spec or something [19:02:32] It's even worse because screenreaders, an accessibility tool, will read it as "a one one y" unless they have specific configs set in jaws (which many don't use because it's expensive) [19:04:58] Better ally, in the never ending fight [20:40:33] [1/2] @pskyechology [20:40:33] [2/2] So, I attempted to look at Suppression Dec. after I had removed that one extension that caused the image popups without backgrounds to be light grey, but even on dark mode, it still shows it as light. I know it’s not preferences or anything, but I can’t figure out what’s going on… [20:40:39] Sorry for disturbing ye [20:40:59] skye fighting demons [20:41:04] ? [20:41:20] nah it's nothing [20:41:25] Oh alriht [20:41:42] Because last time my friend said that it was an abbreviation for “dealing with mental issues” and I got scared [20:44:48] oh hell no [20:45:02] it's because skye is in the fisch wiki server [20:45:07] and like [20:45:13] having to work here [20:45:19] and then troubleshoot shit there [20:46:10] She fights much worse than troubleshooting for us (and we respect and appreciate the hell out of her for it) [20:59:52] if you have a styling issue it's better to open a support thread than pinging a random person [21:00:19] My bad [21:00:37] It’s just that I already mentioned this on the support once and I didn’t know if I should do it again [21:00:45] nah she's just a supernatural being who spends half her time murdering demonic entities to keep the planet safe [21:00:59] bump the thread or create a new one [21:01:09] Bumping a threat? [21:01:53] reply to the thread, could be as simple as just saying "bump" [21:02:16] Oh [21:02:19] Uhhhh alright? [21:02:24] Idk how to do that though [22:17:35] theres nothing to do at Miraheze rn 🥲 [22:20:16] why does MediaWiki:Common.js take foreeeeeever to update for everyone lol [22:20:34] something something not exploding servers [22:20:38] test in user js [22:20:38] fair [22:20:44] I did test in user js [22:21:10] I was adding js to stop people from uploading species the wrong way [22:21:15] oh noes [22:21:56] literally just fucking `.hide()`'s the save button if you use the species template while creating a new page [22:22:15] and directs you to use the form instead [22:23:36] give me an undeterminate amount of procrastination (32 years) and i will learn enough about caching to make it less annoying [22:24:11] [1/2] I chose to do this bc it turns out that despite this thing, [22:24:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1508958959699234846/image.png?ex=6a176f0b&is=6a161d8b&hm=f657430f6a05d4bfae9ea53710a9717f52871ece34e6ddea021eff9d95602cb5& [22:25:58] I'm not sure it's clear enough tbh [22:26:05]