[00:25:34] The sidebar of my wiki [04:09:25] is it possible to connect miraheze to vscode [04:09:28] ro soemthing like that [06:03:29] ...like, howso [06:11:59] i heard there was an extension/gadget or something along those lines? [06:12:04] not really sure beyond that [06:59:47] would be a first [07:07:21] https://fischipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-OpenWithVSC.js [07:07:30] hopefully this is what youre talking about [08:47:29] <.labster> [1/2] why different? [08:47:30] <.labster> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1509478207903236196/Screen_Shot_2026-05-28_at_1.43.27_AM.png?ex=6a1952a1&is=6a180121&hm=ad117175bd1bd823d749c3e326f9ee01bcd578a438e458ce67f8ff73eb3ba985& [09:10:49] because who likes consistency [09:10:54] I think it's because it's grouped changes [09:10:56] I assume [09:11:09] why it has different i18n not a clue [09:21:02] Yes [09:21:34] it's still weird why there's a different i18n message specifically for grouped changes [09:21:38] I hate grouped changes so I turn it off lol [09:21:51] Same [09:22:15] I mean the word will be used in many places [09:22:32] yes but like [09:22:38] why not use the same one lol [09:22:42] No idea [09:22:46] so weird [09:23:06] TIL that there is like a surprising number of metrics exported to statsd by mediawiki but not edit rates afaict [09:23:46] I think wikimediastatus shows that [09:23:54] And Grafana might for Wikimedia [09:24:01] yeah but for WO lol [09:24:04] So I'd look at them and see what they do [09:24:07] i mean [09:24:16] the WMF have some really weird observability [09:24:20] Yes [09:24:33] The observability team are pretty good though [09:24:34] stealing their grafana dashboards isn't really a thing [09:24:39] they changed grafana too and now it's weird [09:24:40] You could ask them on irc for opinions [09:24:44] it has like auto layout and idl it [09:25:33] it's a bunch of eventlogging shit is the way they do it [09:25:42] I'll just add a hook into an extension at some point [09:26:41] right now I have fuckery to do with 1.46 lol [09:27:43] When is mediawiki not fuckery? [09:28:01] when you send an agent to do it instead [09:28:03] it's like 50% success rate [09:28:14] but it gives me time to go grab a coffee and then fix what is broken later [09:29:37] claude did however succeed at making a very nice deployment script which works sometimes [09:30:00] it usually kills the staging server when it rsyncs to like 4 servers at once but when you don't get icinga alerts from your staging server you are doing something wrong [09:31:09] [1/2] I respect the hustle for sending emails taking 5 seconds [09:31:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1509489192776896643/image.png?ex=6a195cdc&is=6a180b5c&hm=c7313e690be0e8bf0c862b79eaac6dd0656f2d7deb6f986d35f9f1de91455619& [09:31:17] Why not just use our scripts for deployment [09:31:25] Which are effectively that wrappers our rsync [09:31:42] Just developed by mad humans rather than agents [09:31:57] I'm not running Wikivy lmao [09:32:01] plus I never really looked [09:32:08] it probably wouldn't work worse [09:32:22] Our deployment scripts are just python [09:32:24] the deployment environment is a bit different [09:32:26] They work very well [09:32:36] I wrote the original myself [09:32:38] but I don't think it's like majorly so [09:33:01] tbh usually I end up just force syncing the state from staging to all the servers anyway [09:33:14] but it does the due diligence that I won't and checks if the server is failing before deploying to more [09:33:35] Ours do that too [09:33:42] I thought it only checks on the canary host [09:34:05] I think it checks every [09:34:08] Unless we changed it [09:34:14] I only skim read it so not sure [09:34:31] The canary server is a bit of myth in that code tbh [09:34:38] It's really just whatever you're deploying from [09:34:45] I never like the idea of deploying from mwtask181 [09:34:53] deploying from a sort of prod server is a bit weird [09:35:02] makes most sense to me to deploy from staging -> prod [09:35:03] we don't have a staging VM though yet [09:35:05] rather than prod -> prod [09:35:11] test151 is what I consider staging [09:35:20] my staging environment is just a vm that testwiki points at [09:35:24] test151 is Miraheze beta cluster [09:35:40] They are separate environments running separate code [09:35:58] yeah I don't really have the means to do separate environments because they would end up sharing a db and redis [09:36:17] redis is also a mistake once it comes to clustering because mediawiki doesn't play nice with redis consistent hashing but [09:36:26] that's a future problem [09:42:37] is there a way to export a specific revision (not the current one) of a wiki page? a friend of mine had copied some templates and modules over a while back from the miraheze dev wiki but had not provided adequate attribution and i would like to import the specific revision that he had copied over as attribution [09:43:01] you need to copy the whole revision history [09:43:06] you can't just attribute to one revision really [09:44:45] is the presence of a link back to the dev wiki not enough? [09:46:22] it probably is yeah [09:53:01] I wonder if adding what ?action=credits says would suffice [09:53:20] never knew that was a thing [09:53:29] [09:53:46] on that note it happens that i did copy over and modify a stylesheet from wikipedia and i don't think my attribution is adequate right now. the problem is that the page has been deleted on wikipedia [09:56:28] a:shrug: [10:09:52] You can open a Phorge task and we will work it out [11:15:10] I'd imagine it's necessary in other languages, although then again why aren't they the same in english [11:15:24] well not really because they mean the same thing lol [12:08:42] is Codex a thing on Miraheze? Ive seen wikigg mention it and depend on some of the variables but the same variables don't work on miraheze wikis? [12:40:58] Not all skins use Codex variables; the issue is skin-dependent rather than farm-dependent [12:45:24] are they available when the old Vector skin is used? [13:19:14] [1/2] Hi, I'm new to miraheze and still learning MediaWiki (and basic html/css) [13:19:14] [2/2] Does anyone know how do I create a new page on my wiki and a simple infobox? [13:24:26] [1/3] Depends on what you want out of a simple infobox but the two suggestions I can give is portable infoboxes (go into Extensions and enable it) or import the infobox template from dev wiki [13:24:27] [2/3] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox [13:24:27] [3/3] dev one is a bit clunkier to get set up and might be more complicated but is a bit less restrictive. Portable infoboxes are simple and generally easy to style. [13:25:53] Not Vector Legacy (or Timeless), but Vector-2022 does (and others) [14:53:33] [1/2] Would you like to adopt the maintenance of the wiki? Someone appears to have requested a reopen and I was apparently the one who reopened it but yeah, if moderation is blocking edits then there's nothing to be done, so I will go ahead and turn that off now too. If you would like to adopt it feel free to make a request on the misc page of [[steward request [14:53:33] [2/2] s]] and I can complete based off that [14:54:56] I did just forget to approve the edit you'd made that got stuck before turning it off, apologies for that [15:07:41] I think I’ll apply for that yeah [15:08:43] I've been meaning to get more involved in its community and I have prior experience making and maintaining a wiki so I think I'm at least somewhat qualified [15:30:27] ...I do not know where to find steward requests [15:31:06] [[SR]] [15:31:07]

[15:31:14] thanka [15:31:16] There you go :] [15:31:19] Yw! [15:38:54] submitted my request! will be awaiting, feel free to ping if necessary [16:42:56] I thought I made the link, looks like it didn't [16:44:02] HI JANE!!! [16:44:23] yeah but what exactly [16:44:41] Hello hello 💃 [16:44:51] Aww the paintbrush looks like it's patting her on the head [16:44:55] the left sidebar, really. Though I got that all settled. [16:45:06] Ohh okay [16:45:09] Aww I can see it! So adorable [17:45:01] [1/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1509613480968196257/IMG_3330.jpg?ex=6a19d09d&is=6a187f1d&hm=190e4db576362a3ee771f2490e88809964d2f55d234cec9bce0b1b0ad9e75f9e& [17:45:02] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1509613481312387122/IMG-20260513-WA3592.jpg?ex=6a19d09d&is=6a187f1d&hm=69521d416a327d2ec1873a3ba5f013cb359c5d22c2c32f888305aa9ea21e30ae& [17:45:02] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1509613481681489971/DSC_2913.jpg?ex=6a19d09d&is=6a187f1d&hm=610203a09f5e197ca8876e5ed926e6930a8883e4c0e8fb1f377a09346b52b863& [17:45:02] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1509613482046128300/IMG-20260428-WA4614.jpg?ex=6a19d09d&is=6a187f1d&hm=9065adbba744fce45e3467228bcba71e866be6318379bf417144d22beca814a3& [17:45:26] beep boop [17:45:34] meep moop [18:18:01] [1/2] is Special:Version accurate? [18:18:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1509621786600275978/image.png?ex=6a19d859&is=6a1886d9&hm=77b6b5bd425346bfb09e844abb92b91118c9cc18572f0b97b9a6c7e199c697d8& [20:11:39] I got the wiki, I can't find the former page I submitted prior to taking control though and would like that back if it's still available [20:11:59] I'm not sure how to approve edit requests, I've never had to turn that on in my Wikis [20:12:09] that was my bad, I forgot to approve before turning off the extension [20:12:20] as far as I'm aware that lost it completely [20:12:21] ah, probably gone then? [20:12:34] unfortunate, wasn't too long though I'll recover [20:12:45] I even took a glance too so I was really just being dumb there [20:13:09] it had some details I got wrong anyway and probably needed a rewrite anyhow [20:13:46] salvageable but definitely an error yea [20:13:46] you can try turning the extension back on, then seeing if it's in the queue [20:14:05] for now gonna focus on making the main page not the default message for bureaucrats though lol [20:14:07] I think it nukes when you turn it off even if you turn it back on, I suppose you could give it a shot though, would be good to know for sure [20:14:33] i dont think we bother deleting tables automatically so probably just chilling there [20:14:57] afaik smw tables get deleted but otherwise I think usually it's fine [20:15:07] yeah we hate smw [20:15:09] give it a try then, can't hurt [20:15:15] probably will [20:15:30] what's the extension? [20:15:41] moderation [20:17:55] [1/16] just because i can: [20:17:55] [2/16] ``` [mod_text] => Bloody Mike is an entity that spawned when Mike Chenoweth drew himself with bloody eyes, causing this being to come to life. He created the series Bloody Mike and Melissa. He portrays himself exactly as he is in the real world. [20:17:55] [3/16] Appearance [20:17:56] [4/16] He is a muscular, large white man with brown facial hair and dark circles under his eyes. He always wears a blue hat with a yellow line going down the middle of it with a pair of brown animal ears stitched to it. He is seen wearing either a white shirt with the text "I AM BLOODY MIKE THE HARDCORE + AWESOME" airbrushed onto it or alternatively a plain black shirt. The rest of his [20:17:56] [5/16] clothes comprise of blue jeans and white shoes. He has hyper realistic bloody running from his eyes. [20:17:56] [6/16] History [20:17:57] [7/16] When Bloody Mike was a teenager he was unhappy and would ignore Bloody Melissa's suggestions to feel better when she was just in his subconscious. [20:17:57] [8/16] At some point in the past Bloody Mike had a bloody girlfriend that broke up with him because she said he was crazy. This leaves him emotionally scarred. [20:17:58] [9/16] Bloody Mike goes to a party after a boring lecture at college. His bloody friends, which happen to not like the music being played, scare away the party goers by playing drums aggressively. At home Bloody Mike is masturbating on his bed when all of a sudden an anthropomorphic skunk named Bloody Melissa appears in his room. She explains that she's an animal spirit that exists onl [20:17:58] [10/16] y to him and they go on [20:17:59] [11/16] a walk together. He admits he wants to be significant others with her and they stay together. Bloody Mike phases into your realm and starts telling you about his series. [20:17:59] [12/16] Abilities [20:18:00] [13/16] Mindscape Access - He can enter the mindscape of humans or púcas. [20:18:00] [14/16] Appearances [20:18:01] [15/16] Bloody Mike Goes Crazy [20:18:01] [16/16] ``` [20:18:51] nvm that one was ancient [20:19:24] [1/7] here's the latest one in queue: [20:19:25] [2/7] ``` [20:19:25] [3/7] [mod_text] => [20:19:25] [4/7] ''This page is about the in-show character. For the real-life creator of Mike and Melissa, see [[Mike Chenoweth]].'' [20:19:25] [5/7] '''Mike Chenoweth''' is the protagonist and main POV character of Mike and Melissa. He's a lonely college student in his 20's whose inability to find love leads to him developing a ''puca'', the sub-titular [[Melissa|Melissa Moufette]], [20:19:26] [6/7] as a girlfriend. His appearance is largely based on that of the [[Mike Chenoweth|show's creator of the same name]]. [20:19:26] [7/7] ``` [20:21:01] How does one even convert SMW or Cargo to Buket? [20:23:58] the one thing stopping me from inquiring about the wiki for a while is that the subject matter it's about is really weird [20:24:05] that is probably abundantly clear now [20:25:25] couldn't care less if they aren't illegal or morally reprehensible [20:25:53] good news then [20:28:38] [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/82229#mw-section-comments [20:28:38] [2/2] My thoughts on this is "I think there is already a Forsaken Roblox wiki" [20:39:55] haha [20:40:28] when forsaken went big it felt like there was a different request for a wiki everyday [20:44:08] Did Miraheze ever do anything about reworking the defalt main pages? [20:44:38] depends a bit on the timeline you're thinking [20:44:47] its currently undergoing an rfc draft for another rework [20:45:14] Why another rework? [20:45:41] the last time I think was when I took a stab at it and the outcome was serviceable but the draft is more pretty [20:46:27] feel free to weigh in at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/New_Maintenance_Script_welcome_page [20:47:09] maybe some detail work that I can't elaborate on at the moment but I think its pretty neat [20:47:29] ^ [21:32:18] <90gq29> anyone have the link to the page with wikis sorted by active users on miraheze? [21:32:35] <90gq29> i remember it existing but i cant find it [21:38:32] https://communities.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_wikis_by_active_users [21:38:47] That what you're looking for? [21:43:21] <90gq29> yeah thanks [21:46:54] Yw [22:56:06] <18.748.837.46, replying to hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> is mizaheze communities official? [22:56:30] not yet I don't think, harej was working on an rfc last I remember