/div [03:36:54] [2/2] ^the spoiler button's not working, btw, atleast in the preview. it's just a green square that lights up on-hover. [03:39:30] Can you link to the template on your wiki? [03:40:22] https://thepowerfantasy.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Spoiler [03:43:23] did you add the code from https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Spoiler/spoiler.js to your wiki's MediaWiki:Common.js? [03:44:20] They didn't, but the template appears to be broken on the wiki it was imported from as well [03:44:50] about to do it now [03:51:44] turns out, i lack permission [03:53:19] The MediaWiki interface can only be edited by interface administrators, the rights of which are not included in the regular admin group for some reason [03:53:50] so~ how should i go about this? [03:54:56] The only way is to bug a bureaucrat to give you interface admin, or if no bureaucrat is active, bug a Steward to give you bureaucrat [04:04:50] Nevermind, I just created my own spoiler template that should work without requiring JS - https://tali64.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Spoiler [04:12:10] where's the doc page and import button? [04:14:55] There is no documentation page - you just export the template and its subpage (styles.css) and import it to the wiki (which can be done via Special:Import) [04:19:12] [1/2] and importing it ontop of the original won't cause issues? [04:19:12] [2/2] also, does it work the same way the original does? the lack of documentation is discomforting 😐 [04:22:15] [1/2] also, will internal & external links work as intended in the Comment (and Summary) box? [04:22:15] [2/2] > imported [https://tali64.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Tali64%C2%B3 Tali64³]'s JS-free replacement [04:24:12] [1/3] so~ what am i doing wrong? [04:24:12] [2/3] https://thepowerfantasy.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Import [04:24:12] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1511223885230510140/Screenshot_2026-06-01_at_22-23-41_Import_pages_-_The_Power_Fantasy_Wiki.png?ex=6a1fac6b&is=6a1e5aeb&hm=1a51e6672bf8819fc3eae71f164f3ee59e3e8942c057b8b0f7b2dd6d602f0321& [04:26:00] [1/9] 1. Go to https://tali64.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Export. [04:26:00] [2/9] 2. Put the following in "Add pages manually": [04:26:00] [3/9] ``` [04:26:00] [4/9] Template:Spoiler [04:26:01] [5/9] Template:Spoiler/styles.css [04:26:01] [6/9] ``` [04:26:01] [7/9] 3. Uncheck "Include only the current revision". [04:26:02] [8/9] 4. Click "Save as file" [04:26:02] [9/9] 5. Upload the file you just saved to Special:Import on your wiki. [04:30:27] The code's Inline isn't working consistently. [04:39:43] What specific issues are you having? [04:43:46] [1/2] https://thepowerfantasy.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Spoiler?direction=prev&oldid=3031 vs https://thepowerfantasy.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Spoiler/doc [04:43:46] [2/2] shows what stopped working, but the one on my mind is the inline one [04:44:39] [1/2] this is supposed to be inline [04:44:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1511229035269849108/Screenshot_2026-06-01_at_22-44-25_Etienne_Lux_-_The_Power_Fantasy_Wiki.png?ex=6a1fb137&is=6a1e5fb7&hm=b610300425abfb77b01011a48d878b8fed4c043e99c919192afb6e5f9a5c6f00& [04:46:11] [1/2] gonna go very soon, btw [04:46:11] [2/2] can continue tomorrow if i get the chance [04:50:01] You can wrap each line around a spoiler - it's not elegant, but it probably works [06:23:03] [1/2] uhm [06:23:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1511253797266129008/Screenshot_2026-06-02_13.21.26.png?ex=6a1fc847&is=6a1e76c7&hm=dc83116f59d98424bbc807502fe16887976d1c4b1daec3d2f65b593ff19fe027& [06:23:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1511253814769090672/Screenshot_2026-06-02_13.21.42.png?ex=6a1fc84b&is=6a1e76cb&hm=a887e1568b8c60787b01981b7db31ac5a1d23233d133c5cd5f5f5a9bb3b06a27& [06:23:50] I use a bot to track Recent changes (RC). [06:33:45] You can set up a recent changes webhook in ManageWiki/settings under "Notifications" [06:34:24] Oh, thank you [08:00:17] <_aedo_> Quick question, how long does it usually take for a wiki to be reviewed? [08:02:17] An AI will just take a little bit of time to review your wiki [08:02:32] if it approves your wiki, that's it, next step is to edit and grow the wiki [08:02:48] if not, then wait for a human to review it in like 1-2 days, more or less [08:04:59] <_aedo_, replying to justleafy2003> thing is, ai couldn't review my wiki, that's what it said [08:05:22] <_aedo_> so i'm curious how long is usually takes by human review :0 [08:05:34] <_aedo_> i apologize for not specifying earlier [08:06:11] yeah, the human review will take around 1-2 days, give or take [08:06:18] <_aedo_> ohh, fair [08:06:44] <_aedo_> thanks though [08:06:48] <_aedo_> i appreciate it [08:07:07] yw [08:08:49] <.thehandyman.> In the case of adopting wikis-- does automatically closed mean the notice? As the adoption page itself stated 60 days-- when the notice appears-- or is it 120 days, as that's when its closed for inactivity [08:11:01] if a wiki doesn't receive edits in 2 months, it will be marked as inactive, but one can still edit it during the "inactive" period [08:11:17] just a single edit will clear the inactivity status [08:11:34] if a wiki doesn't receive edits in 4 months, it will be marked as "closed", which won't make it editable [08:12:43] a closed wiki can be re-opened either by getting the wiki's bureaucrat to uncheck closed status or by submitting a re-open request [08:12:44] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Requests_for_reopening_wikis [08:14:19] <.thehandyman.> [1/2] i misread the notice-- it has the closure warning-- so inactive [08:14:19] <.thehandyman.> [2/2] looking to adopt a wiki and bring it to standards of other wikis (as its quite in poor shape and seems to be only 'open' due to someone doing a copy paste job to prevent it from closing) [08:14:27] <.thehandyman.> I was wondering when that cut-off was [08:15:01] [1/2] 60 days without edits -> wiki gets marked as inactive [08:15:01] [2/2] 120 days without edits -> wiki gets marked as closed [08:15:21] when a wiki is "inactive", you can simply just make a single edit to make it active again [08:15:44] when a wiki is "closed", you'll have to request reopening the wiki from the link above, since you can't otherwise edit a closed wiki [08:16:56] <.thehandyman.> [1/4] This is the part I was mainly confused about [08:16:56] <.thehandyman.> [2/4] > A direct appointment is possible if: [08:16:56] <.thehandyman.> [3/4] > There are no active or regular editors within 60 days. 'Active or regular editors' is described as registered users on Miraheze who have made at least one substantial edit. [08:16:57] <.thehandyman.> [4/4] > If the direct appointment condition is not met, a local election must be performed by the adopter(s) to gain bureaucrat access on the wiki. As an additional resource for that process, please consult the guide to local elections. [08:17:35] <.thehandyman.> the direct appointment part [08:21:58] Oh [08:22:16] How to reopen a wiki 🤔 [08:23:13] if you're the bureaucrat of a wiki, just go to Special:ManageWiki/settings and unchecked the "Closed" checkbox [08:23:22] if not, submit a request here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Requests_for_reopening_wikis [08:23:32] Okay [08:24:08] Also happy pride month [08:25:31] This is so helpful [08:26:09] I was wondering "why is my wiki taking so long to be reviewed" [08:27:17] not lgbtq myself, but thanks anyway! u 2! [08:27:27] No problem [08:27:53] Im a beginner at wikis [08:38:30] <_arawynn, replying to _aedo_> Due to the AI not working currently the time to process the request is going to be longer, I'd estimate about 3 to 5 days - we got about 100 requests in 24 hours and there are 3 active reviewers [08:38:47] <_aedo_, replying to _arawynn> ohhh [08:38:55] <_aedo_> fair enough, thank you so much [09:54:39] Guh the request review use ai now? [09:54:51] yes to fasten the process [09:56:25] So is it like to sorten out the request or like [09:56:40] Because i dont remember them being used back when i request a wiki [10:08:36] the AI reads the request and either accepts it or puts it in a human review queue [10:21:17] <_arawynn, replying to theonewhoeatmountain> [1/4] The AI is for a first evaluation. Obvious cases get approved or denied, the rest is asked for more information and given to human review. [10:21:17] <_arawynn, replying to theonewhoeatmountain> [2/4] It got implemented because wait timed exceeded a week for requests. [10:21:17] <_arawynn, replying to theonewhoeatmountain> [3/4] During the current outage, the queue went from 30 requests to 130 requests in a bit over 24 hours. [10:21:18] <_arawynn, replying to theonewhoeatmountain> [4/4] And we have 3 people regularly doing reviews, everyone else who could process them as well has additional volunteer roles demanding their attention [10:22:31] Ahhhhhh [10:22:36] I see [10:22:48] Probally why i dint notice it back then [10:22:50] Make sense [10:36:12] That sucks [10:36:50] I hope I get lucky [11:11:45] [1/2] how to solve this? [11:11:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1511326449460707328/Screenshot_20260602-181048.jpg?ex=6a200bf0&is=6a1eba70&hm=3b9754da17a6caae6c6e52acf8f5f7c870eb3863f1a75de138dae7b8a0dc2653& [11:20:34] <_arawynn> You'll have to wait. Wiki requests have a limit [11:35:47] I've been waiting for it for 2 days [11:38:33] <_arawynn> [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Guide_to_writing_wiki_requests [11:38:33] <_arawynn> [2/2] No idea if it's current but this site says you can request 1 per week. [12:11:32] [1/2] is there any way to improve the search feature on my wiki? [12:11:33] [2/2] i dont really know what i dont like about it, but the default really isnt doing it for me [12:44:06] TitleKey to fix case sensitivity, CirrusSearch for... other benefits I don't actually know what CirrusSearch does [13:14:18] [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:CirrusSearch [13:14:18] [2/2] ^ I cobbled together a short list [14:06:47] [1/2] is ai.txt supported [14:06:48] [2/2] I realized that if people are gonna be looking up sagan 4 on ai chatbots anyway it might be valuable to give the ais instructions [14:15:32] is there a way to make it visually different? i would prefer to have it as a search bar rather than a pop out menu, if that's possible [14:38:02] The way that search appears is usually dependent upon the skin being used - Vector-2022 has a search bar [14:47:43] Vector22 search bar is really slow for some reason. [14:48:08] if there is not ai.txt support, what system message would be optimal to inject instructions into instead [15:21:45] so, on citizen there would be no way of changing it? [15:48:08] citizen's search system is different [15:59:34] Yeah most likely not, reading through the docs I don't see any configs or preferences to make search a bar instead of a modal/popup [16:18:14] [1/2] is there a good way to deal with pixels being different sizes for these thumbnails? currently using 200x200px for fixed dimensions? [16:18:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1511403582228922599/image.png?ex=6a2053c6&is=6a1f0246&hm=33d51625ef28fb7b195df0fe3c295bffab7f99f458b974ef19e076d3d60b19b2& [16:23:19] [1/2] is this a good/functional sitemap? [16:23:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1511404859491094658/image.png?ex=6a2054f7&is=6a1f0377&hm=ca0f3f1f9795e20feafc3a5d995fb9cf03e13cf91dda4b5c5c3049469df9e9ee& [16:23:25] ive been setting up google console [16:23:45] the example has a bunch of sub sitemaps [16:25:42] it's one big one these days yeah [16:25:48] aaah, okay [16:25:50] thanks [16:27:20] also, is it normal that a lot of articles are not indexed? theyre either in discovered or crawled [16:27:27] does adding a sitemap fix this? [16:27:46] i guess it does... [16:41:35] that's a google thing and unfortunately not even a rain dance can help you with that [16:49:56] I think I just answered your email [16:50:11] Google does what Google does [16:51:59] I dont think so but we could probably make it possible [16:52:10] Have you filed a task? [16:53:38] [1/2] I have not [16:53:39] [2/2] tho I realized I can use notices to place information of that sort on specific pages in a format that will be captured by the summarize page button on the chatgpt sidebar tool [16:56:02] Please create one with what you want to put in there and we'll take a look [16:56:17] what do you mean? [16:56:45] Someone emailed tech@ with a similar question that I just replied to [16:56:53] If you emailed us, I replied to you [16:56:56] no, that wasnt me [16:57:08] Congratulations on the elections! [16:57:50] @pskyechology and @notaracham congratulations :) [16:57:55] as a miraheze phabricator task? [16:58:12] Yes [17:33:47] Congratulations on the elections! [18:11:55] How many human reviewers does miraheze have [18:12:41] [[WR]] [18:12:42]

[18:12:58] ? [18:13:18] there's a table with all the reviewers [18:14:43] I see [18:14:47] Thanks ! [18:18:51] At any given time we have between 2 and 4 active reviewers, many of the folks listed have other volunteer obligations [18:35:08] considering people have been growing interest on volunteering, maybe that will double [20:16:07] <_arawynn> That would be very good, especially at times like now where the AI doesn't work [20:55:34] Satire wiki idea: a wiki that has its articles passed through an unreliable translation engine and back to English [20:56:43] so fandom [21:04:08] is there? [21:06:45] (I'm making a joke about Fandom's plans to get rid of other language wikis and replace it all with AI) [21:07:18] oh... [21:07:22] damn [21:07:30] everything is wrong with fandom [21:07:37] i thought the same [21:07:57] cat hive mind theory [21:08:17] https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Fandom/Introducing_Fandom%E2%80%99s_Wiki_Internationalization_Experiment_-_A_Gateway_for_Editors_and_Expanding_the_Fan_Experience [21:09:07] got so much pushback they had to delete it and republish it under the official fandom account [21:09:56] oh my [21:10:45] all cats will converge to one conscience. except the one guy still using irc [21:11:58] i obviously won't pitch the wiki to miraheze, cause it's kinda stupid of a wiki project; also I can't find moderators, as that is a requirement [21:12:22] ...is it? [21:12:27] me, myself and i edit on my wiki [21:13:02] well, i mean it seems silly to make a wiki where all the articles are passed through the worst translators and back [21:13:17] no i meant the latter [21:13:35] oh [21:20:58] .. [22:49:23] DID THEY ACTUALLY- [22:50:12] see unai's link above [22:51:10] yes [22:51:12] but they kinda stopped [22:51:36] They should stop supporting English and exclusively support Portuguese [22:51:38] doesn't change the fact they shot at their own foot for years and killed the non-EN communities [22:51:45] For some reason Portuguese fandom wikis are always better [22:52:02] Bless the Brazilian editors 🫡 [22:52:16] They got a federation of wikis too [22:52:32] They're affiliated with ours (Spanish) [22:52:36] Russians too [22:53:15] There was some Russian wiki that nuked itself because the admins realized a lot of their readers were Americans and Western Europeans. [22:53:24] Lives rent free in mh head [22:53:25] Splendid [22:54:27] Hm... [22:54:28] Russian wikis were pretty active when I was still active over there [22:54:59] Speaking of AI, would it be cheating if I ask AI for help gaining understanding on CSS shit? /genq [22:55:11] No [22:55:28] But AI is pretty bad at visual things unless you really know how to set it up [22:55:41] And even then, you'd probably spend less time using a learning resource like MDN [22:56:04] Ask here and we'll explain [22:56:07] What's the debug prefix again? [22:56:13] ?debug=2 [22:56:16] but uh [22:56:24] if it's for testing, don't lol [22:56:38] you can use browser extensions [22:57:11] every time cache gets forcibly purged a kitty gets abandoned [22:57:30] [1/2] How does one make a different theme? I want this to be the light theme [22:57:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1511504056449761381/image.png?ex=6a20b159&is=6a1f5fd9&hm=bb7c5841b289f9b5bae85011678c876baad906601b7c6c582f43397c300ab1da& [22:57:45] gasp NOOOOOOOOOOO- [22:57:47] oh timeless [22:57:54]