[00:14:15] Try TimedMediaHandler first before custom solutions that are meant to address its shortcomings but can come with its own quirks. [02:04:33] No worries, all's good! I'm usually called that name due to my literal online alias being just a wicker basket with eyes. I also have a physical wicker basket in my room, so it all makes sense now. [03:30:54] miraheze exploded [03:31:00] yuh [03:31:04] yup [03:31:15] gateway error [03:31:17] the heze is dead! [03:31:26] https://klipy.com/gifs/fox-sniff-fox-sniff-fast [03:31:35] it's a sign to take a break, maybe [03:31:36] Who exploded the servers now? [03:31:47] W SERVERS [03:31:49] my bad [03:32:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306970359240589354/1359809526995488818/TOTSUGEKIII.gif [03:32:12] you are so.... [03:32:14] EVIL!!!!! [03:32:27] https://tenor.com/view/fox-bite-dixie-saveafox-angry-gif-921191908093582478 [03:32:37] was just about to say the same πŸ’” [03:33:14] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/952815634645934093/1086612999281844274/togif.gif [03:34:38] fandom lovers rejoice [03:35:37] aka the SUCKERS!!!! [03:36:04] w servers [03:36:06] is miraheze down rn [03:36:09] taking a break [03:36:28] yo @posix_memalign sry for ping but is it being worked on rn [03:36:36] is shit fucked [03:36:47] shit is almost fucked it looks like [03:37:15] i can just about wrestle my way to pages [03:37:44] i usually just go stare at #tech-ops to see if things are recovering lol [03:37:45] miraheze is BACK πŸŽ‰ [03:38:12] lie [03:38:17] somewhatβ„’ [03:38:19] [1/2] aye mb yall [03:38:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512661890709323837/image.png?ex=6a24e7aa&is=6a23962a&hm=219a0866587bab3bf5a911b832ae8ac719c420a9678cc10095bdf5adf98fbf38& [03:38:21] wdym.... [03:38:24] im staring at my wiki rn... [03:38:26] things are slow [03:38:27] its working brah.. [03:38:35] [1/2] oh ok [03:38:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512661960410402937/image.png?ex=6a24e7bb&is=6a23963b&hm=978fafcd3b7a8296f297939e568205cf4a5dec59dd5da81340be73aaf7e0da07& [03:38:37] it's been loading sometimes for me the whole time [03:38:48] miraheze exploded again [03:39:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1196040358879055975/1436314404944613526/caption.gif [03:39:19] yo who keeps BLOWING up miraheze hq [03:39:31] hrwiki speeds [03:39:38] literally just joined bc miraheze what πŸ’” [03:40:08] ah [03:40:14] bad gateway πŸ₯€ [03:40:37] yooo lightning hello [03:40:51] hello πŸ‘‹ [03:41:27] https://tenor.com/iug5mDxCfTF.gif [03:41:30] bad gateway... are the miraheze servers down or something? [03:41:37] yeah [03:41:49] i see; good to know [03:41:59] ever since the merger, i'm lucky if i get 12 baud [03:42:04] ah yes, someone else who joined for the same reason [03:42:11] yeah... [03:42:17] same [03:42:21] i just wanna write about my pigeons bro :stare: [03:42:22] just wanted to make sure it wasn't me since i waited a good bit [03:42:27] oh yeah same [03:42:37] i just wanna write about my mod for a video game [03:42:40] dbs are shitting the bed it seems like [03:42:41] i finally felt motivated, and that's after a tiring day at work [03:42:48] holy [03:43:14] i have to wonder what the server room sounds like rn........ [03:43:23] [1/2] (from #tech-ops) [03:43:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512663169078788197/image.png?ex=6a24e8db&is=6a23975b&hm=1ff74c2dcee349172dc8af95efdda12fb0f34e6b59b0a992c563022e69523f86& [03:43:34] i see [03:43:37] fans making the loudest sound ever [03:43:45] max verstappen [03:43:46] and the room itself being hotter than the sahara [03:43:47] 😭 [03:43:51] doot doot doot doot [03:44:11] FMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM [03:44:19] WOOSH WOOSH WOOSH [03:44:21] looks like various things are going down, recovering (hence the small periods of time where everything works but is really slow), and then going back down again, rinse and repeat [03:44:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512663412147097741/everything-is-fine.jpg?ex=6a24e915&is=6a239795&hm=35670488707afa5dfec0a721ed6c66f5f9a1c5404c9cbe9cc38796c4b6dac7be& [03:44:33] https://tenor.com/view/cpu-on-smoke-cpu-blasts-potato-pc-gif-24592403 [03:44:40] current footage of the mh server room [03:44:53] The entire Miraheze is down? [03:44:54] fr [03:45:02] Guys i know why they cant fix it! its a bad gateway! they cant go into the server room because the gateway to the room is bad! !! 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 [03:45:03] MIRAHEZE IS FUCKING DOWN [03:45:15] its on fire [03:45:22] a:mhm: [03:45:55] Genius [03:46:01] indeed [03:46:10] indeed [03:46:11] Will it be back anytime soon? [03:46:30] Most wikis should recover except those on db161. [03:46:31] probably [03:46:33] seems ok to me now [03:46:43] it's working for me, yippee [03:46:50] thank you very much [03:46:55] still giving me the "something went wrong message [03:47:12] works for me [03:47:14] nvm it works again! [03:47:18] i get the wiki undergoing maintenance mesage.. [03:47:19] took me a minute [03:47:22] back to editing as i was βœ…:pepperpray::pepperpray: [03:47:31] this db161 the cursed one or smth [03:47:54] the db161 of doom and despair [03:47:59] yippee i can be greenish now [03:48:04] yay [03:48:31] tribulation down [03:48:35] how do you determine what wiki is on what, uh, [two letters][three numbers] [03:48:39] yall [03:48:42] isnt this issue bc [03:48:46] they dont buy enough server storage [03:49:03] I did what I could. I'm gonna keep eating until infra restarts db161 and repool it. [03:49:03] seems like it was something to do with ram [03:49:19] how long does that usually take? [03:50:03] I'm not sure. I pinged infra on Discord and Mattermost, so it'll depend on how soon someone sees the ping. [03:50:16] hmm [03:50:27] Someone needs to see it for the site to finish its refresh? [03:51:52] db161 is the one that's using all the ram [03:52:07] 3 of them are Europeans so they are probably asleep. The rest are in the US and have a decent chance of seeing the ping and responding (hopefully). [03:52:22] sounds cursed [03:52:28] its greed SICKENS me it does NOT need that much ram [03:52:39] every wiki that's using that specific server for its database will probably stay down, wikis on other database servers should recover [03:52:45] from my understanding anyways [03:52:47] db161 not sharing any ram to its twins [03:52:53] thats greedy [03:52:56] Yeah someone with database access needs to restart it. [03:54:10] i think you can see status here in more detail https://grafana.wikitide.net/ [03:54:17] wait you have to log onto grafana now, fuck [03:55:19] RAMpocalypse all over again [03:55:58] can someone stick it on the status page at least [03:56:08] or does no one here have perms for that rn [03:58:53] could you get anything special if you donated like 1 grand [03:59:41] [1/2] HAPPY PRIDE MONTH, TODAY IS THE BIRTHDAY FO AROACE! [03:59:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512667270877282404/IMG-20260605-WA0090.jpg?ex=6a24ecad&is=6a239b2d&hm=a69dbc13b83db2e4fa546bc017a5359c3da26e352d1e63512763fb73e4734db4& [04:06:02] are wikis still under maintenance [04:06:07] Apologies for the delay. Things will be back soon. [04:09:36] Things should be back now. [04:10:30] Awesome [04:10:56] sick [04:11:11] you can tell what db your wiki is on in managewiki [04:11:22] yup, saw the updates! thank you miraheze admin team!!! [04:11:23] it's under core settings [04:12:34] well now i can certainly tell that the rainworld wiki is on db161 [04:12:50] You're welcome. Apologies for the delay with getting this resolved. [04:15:29] [1/3] anyone knows what this evil pixel is? [04:15:29] [2/3] https://casualtiesunknown.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&limit=50&days=7&enhanced=1&urlversion=2 [04:15:30] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512671246154858666/image.png?ex=6a24f061&is=6a239ee1&hm=075aa176a0c1a55b9c512704e4c59c40925654ad28b32833d9997be0099b0bad& [04:17:22] [1/2] `#mw-page-base` [04:17:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512671717171138661/image.png?ex=6a24f0d1&is=6a239f51&hm=bdee2ba0ca30c6bf5789b08f091590bf866b397202cb1d9af9258958e66134b4& [04:18:27] Level of access depends on whether other members of tech think someone is competent enough. Donating will improve others' opinions toward someone but not necessarily the perception of competence. [04:31:12] queen🌟 [04:54:23] [1/2] eh [04:54:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512681036516167770/Screenshot_2026-06-06-12-54-02-83_cbf47468f7ecfbd8ebcc46bf9cc626da.jpg?ex=6a24f97f&is=6a23a7ff&hm=c3bfbef788417f6cfa63f9bc4625f04984daa827302e4a2a6eb0e17c043b4967& [04:54:36] cool i gues [05:06:45] [1/5] In general if: [05:06:45] [2/5] 1. You check several wikis and they are all down/slow for several minutes straight (which means it is not a temporary hiccups and is unlikely to recover by itself) and [05:06:45] [3/5] 2. Several people are complaining on discord and [05:06:46] [4/5] 3. No one from tech has said anything [05:06:46] [5/5] Then I think this is a strong enough case to ping infra/mediawiki specialist. Of course, if you are feeling too shy to ping so many people, feel free to ping me. [09:25:51] do i need to enable API query somewhere [09:26:22] id like to use article ratings [09:26:47] and i dont have semantic mediawiki so i need to use the API it seems [09:27:18] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512749718810267748/image.png?ex=6a253976&is=6a23e7f6&hm=ca9d285fbc3a6a599fbd277004f346fd6b1a0d2e1f4063cfd67042bb7a336265& [09:28:10] found the api sandbox [09:49:14] That would be correct [09:49:24] We don't offer a public Grafana instance at this time [11:13:20] [1/6] hi all! [11:13:20] [2/6] I am the biggest (by a large margin) editor on a Fandom wiki. [11:13:21] [3/6] I am not a member of the moderation/administrative team, but wish to fork the wiki to Miraheze; I have begun gauging the opinions of other regular/semi-regular editors and the perception is currently universal support......we all wish to both move away from Fandom and to build a more community-centric wiki (the active staff members - 3 out of approx. 20 - generally have a bit of [11:13:21] [4/6] a knack for being stubborn and having a "my way is the highway mentality" - I can get into this more if need be but dont wish to spend time needlessly ragging on them). [11:13:21] [5/6] am I allowed to still fork from the Fandom wiki over to Miraheze? - from research ive gathered i am, but don't know for certain. if so, what is my next step? do I just go ahead and submit an application to open a wiki? [11:13:21] [6/6] TIA 🫑 [11:49:13] how do you get lowercase page titles again [12:11:28] with Miraheze you do not need to have the full support of the wiki, but we do generally advise you to try and get everyone on board otherwise you'll end up competing with one another [12:13:11] thank you. so I would have no issues if I were to submit an application to open a Miraheze wiki? would I have to provide proof of conversations with other wiki editors showcasing their support? [12:37:12] i think my main concern would be database dumps. iirc you have to be an admin to request a dump on fandom, so forking might be harder without admin support [12:43:17] thats my worry, last database dump was in 2016 and I haven't been on speaking terms with the remaining staff members for a while now (and I certainly know they'd tell me to go get fucked if they knew why I was asking). Special:Export is the way im thinking [12:43:18] @astrosmokey Watch your language. [12:44:20] thats my worry, last database dump was in 2016 and I haven't been on speaking terms with the remaining staff members for a while now (and I certainly know they'd tell me to kick rocks if they knew why I was asking). Special:Export is the way im thinking. Playing around with some options for exporting images [12:45:08] There are other tools to create a dump of a FANDOM wiki [12:45:47] may I ask what they are? [12:46:33] Uh, wikiteam3 is a python tool [12:46:38] There's also a hosted version [12:46:42] @WikiBot [12:47:55] sick, thank you [12:48:08] would wikiteam3 also port over images or just pages/text? [12:48:39] Exporting images is an option yes [12:49:01] last question (I think), does it port over revision/edit history? [12:49:15] This bot is restricted I will say so a volunteer with a role on this server would need to run it [12:49:19] Also an option yes [12:49:45] noted noted and noted, thank you [13:02:41] [1/2] should this wiki really exist?\ [13:02:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512803922174021823/image.png?ex=6a256bf1&is=6a241a71&hm=5d48114ba29b8c13c75aab210eb22e94d47244054890d7f8baaebd95e8386413& [13:04:38] Probably not, but that’s an issue more for the local wiki. Though to my recollection there’s not really much of that on that wiki [13:06:31] [1/2] I'm talking about the wiki in general, it looks poorly run and the logo is an ai generated image of the weird gloop one [13:06:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512804883072286800/Wiki_logo.png?ex=6a256cd6&is=6a241b56&hm=542722c353469f2b6268e9327e460b766d70cedb20eee2bfac3c03fa26e376cd& [13:15:02] hey just wondering, is there any way to make JS elements? ie sliders that would dynamically update values on a page [13:17:03] technically I already have a HTML builder so it is just a matter of making the logic in JS [13:17:19] (or Lua but I doubt you can dynamically update content like that) [13:25:39] Fandom mc wiki be like [13:25:52] (And mh mc wiki too) [13:34:31] yea nevermind mediawiki straight up turns it into an invalid element because of `$wgRawHtml` [13:37:45] how to make namespace customization? [13:38:00] on citizen [13:38:41] You can load JS in MediaWiki yea [13:39:35] Stuff on the MediaWiki:Common.js page will be loaded for all users [13:39:54] You can also do [[Special:MyPage/Common.js]] [13:39:55] [13:39:56] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen [13:40:14] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/JavaScript [13:41:47] css specific to a certain namepsace? [13:41:52] yes [13:42:16] u can use gadgets [13:42:17] ort [13:42:30] if u enter devtools on a page on the ns u want [13:42:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512813973085487245/image.png?ex=6a25754d&is=6a2423cd&hm=60a023d8f8752688fd80752127f82e0e1959ed1ed643da3b262b7e1122d295bb& [13:42:49] youve got these classes in the body [13:42:54] ns-0 [13:42:55] yeah [13:43:01] is the class to target the main namespace [13:43:12] oh [13:44:36] a custom namepsace needs to be made [13:44:38] idk how its done [13:45:22] Special:NamespaceInfo will have all the real namespaces and their ID's [14:16:53] jquery 😭 [14:21:20] not a gadget, is supposed to be part of the core experience and not as an addition [15:24:36] You can set gadgets to be default on for all readers [15:25:00] And then just use the gadget system to keep it organized or if you want allow an opt out [15:25:07] Or just add to a mediawiki JS page [15:52:12] some wikis use dangerous implementation like widget [15:52:39] if it becomes an enforcement issue then it might get removed, but as it is right now it's merely a bit cringe [15:53:21] this would hopefully do the same thing https://github.com/lihaohong6/Mustache [15:54:45] the problem with the mustache extension is it compiles the template into PHP which could introduce some tricky attack vectors [15:55:18] once miraheze approved it it would be safe [15:55:29] so just need to wait [15:58:20] being approved doesn't make it safe [15:58:33] look at cargo (or any yaron extension for that matter) [16:00:02] evaluating arbitrary raw php just seems like a bad idea to me [16:01:40] it means we can ignore potential vulnerability before they're disclosed:EpicFaceMH: [16:33:19] Half of the security team’s heart rate went us reading the word Widget [16:52:13] Why is everything rainbow [16:56:23] Does renaming a page automatically change wikilinks? [16:57:50] No [16:57:56] You can redirect pages though [16:58:27] Alright, thanks! [17:09:15] Pride month [17:10:44] Hello is there a way to enable Semantic Scribunto for my wiki? It shows up as greyed out and I don't know where exactly to ask for an installation. [17:11:57] Actually the whole wiki consists of pieces copied/barely paraphrased quotes from minecraft.wiki without proper attribution (it's even ARR licensed). I would like to propose the wiki to be closed. What's the formal process around this? [17:14:13] https://reports.miraheze.org/ [17:18:24] i think its more of [[SR]] wiki reports [17:18:25] [17:18:41] cos reports is more focused on the illegal stuff i guess [17:19:03] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512868436605145321/image.png?ex=6a25a807&is=6a245687&hm=82e31b37b7bc363a60f53592e1580237a0d443772cceddebeeb6c0b5b6b50b86& [17:19:32] Oh okay [17:22:28] Asking this again [17:25:50] <_arawynn> it needs SemanticMediaWiki which doesn't get activated due to various issues as far as I understand [17:28:17] Unless it's needed for migration purposes, we are not enabling it for new wikis, no. [17:28:27] We recommend looking into bucket instead [17:31:09] hello, why do infoboxes from wikipedia show at the left hand side and not on the right? [17:31:15] they also have no borders [17:34:22] which pages are you seeing this? [17:34:45] they're normally on the right, unless if you're using an rtl language wikipedia, like the arabic wikipedia [17:35:12] https://gamlastadrailways.miraheze.org/wiki/Gamlastad_Hauptbanhof [17:35:21] for example @justleafy2003 [17:35:55] believe it or not, it's default table behavior [17:36:06] just add a `float: right` to the infobox's style [17:36:32] how? from which page? [17:36:44] Also, there is no border and it is wider than in wp [17:37:41] something else, I uploaded a file to wikimedia commons about an hour ago and it still isn;t present in miraheze. how long does it usually take? [17:37:45] https://gamlastadrailways.miraheze.org/wiki/template:Infobox%20station/styles.css [17:37:57] I'll do it for you in a moment [17:39:35] @mirai.towa take a look now: https://gamlastadrailways.miraheze.org/wiki/Gamlastad_Hauptbanhof?debug=1 [17:39:47] ok thanks [17:39:50] np [17:40:31] what about this?https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1512873126399053954 [17:41:02] honestly, I have no idea [17:46:49] ok then, thanks again [17:52:23] ah alr [18:10:20] just as a fyi scribunto and semantic scribunto are two different extensions [18:10:31] scribunto is enabled on all wikis [18:11:09] I figured that out thank you, I was confused between the two [18:29:15] [1/2] What exactly differentiates a page from a content page? I imported most of the pages from Fandom, the place I forked this wiki from so is there any way to update this content pages statistic to show the actual number?? [18:29:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512886105392025883/image.png?ex=6a25b87b&is=6a2466fb&hm=194d405170d604e933975ff2ecbc692c261a98efaf84a4e293a633d2976950d7& [18:31:45] I think it'll get automatically updated within a few days [18:31:56] if it doesn't then file a [[phorge]] ticket [18:31:57] [18:39:53] Statistics update twice a month, there's two methodologies you can choose from for determining content pages [18:41:27] [1/2] Short version: [18:41:27] [2/2] If it's in the main namespace, has a link to another page on the wiki, and isn't a redirect, it counts [18:42:10] If you change the default from links to Any, all non redirect pages in main count [18:44:43] is there an extension or other way to make unprefixed links stay in the same namespace rather than going to mainspace? [18:45:10] i'm planning to merge a few wikis together (just requested a scope change) and i'm going to use namespaces to keep the content semi-spearate [18:49:34] [1/4] Hi there. So I'm trying to improve my wiki's SEO. [18:49:34] [2/4] I'm following this guide: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/WikiSEO_-_Improving_Search_Ranking [18:49:35] [3/4] I'm stuck on verifying ownership. I've added and copied the tag to the wiki SEO extension but it keeps saying its not formatted correctly. I've verified I see the tag on the source page but... I can't get past this error. [18:49:35] [4/4] Any suggestions? [18:54:38] what's your wiki? [18:55:48] Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait. I'm reading ahead. I forgot to extract the string. I can't just copy directly from Google which offers a convenient "Copy" button. [18:56:03] I looked ahead to see the setup images and read way more carefully. [18:57:41] Sorry, I think this is my mistake. I'll get back to you after trying this again and if I still can't fix it. [18:58:07] I'm working on getting my wiki up to basic info right now, is there a way to upload multiple files at once? There is over 2000 images we eventually need to add by full completion. [19:00:10] MediaWizard? [19:00:37] [1/2] Quick question, which one of these are you using? [19:00:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512893995766775989/image.png?ex=6a25bfd4&is=6a246e54&hm=35c6b035723b3716ccbc9d82ddd55779dfaef0dde1094633ca8cd3cdd65c746d& [19:00:46] Url prefix. I fixed it. =p [19:00:57] I had to extract the string. I just made the assumption to copy and paste directly from Google. [19:01:05] I should've read the guide and not acted ahead. [19:01:22] Is there no way to do it as a full domain? Because if I set it as a URL prefix it's only going to be the main page right? [19:01:43] The extension applies it to the entire domain if I'm understanding it correctly? [19:01:48] I dunno, I'm just following the guide, lol. [19:02:38] there are some batch upload type extensions, you can also zip up the images you want to upload and then file a [[phorge]] request for image import [19:02:38] [19:02:44] And holy crap this is a lot of data... daaaaayum. [19:03:14] It is not a wiki migration unfortunately [19:07:35] I mean I think an image import is still possible but our scripts assume that it's importing from another wiki (I could be wrong about that idk). Otherwise you can use [[mw:extension:simpleBatchUpload]] or [this script](https://battlecats.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-UploadMultipleFiles.js) [19:07:36] [19:08:55] to use the script you'd run the js `mw.loader.load('https://battlecats.miraheze.org/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.gadget.i18n,UploadMultipleFiles')` [19:13:57] I'll try an image import first, Thanks. [19:16:43] Author here, you better believe this burned me as well the first time πŸ˜‚ 😭 [19:17:03] I feel like that single line of extracting the string needs to be boldened. >=O [19:17:32] 100%, GSC is so touchy about having things exactly so [19:17:43] bumping this because it got drowned out by the other questions [19:17:57] Will do so once I'm back at keyboard [19:19:33] If you zip them up and put them somewhere tech team can download them, they can also do a bulk image upload if you file a [[phorge]] ticket [19:19:34] [19:20:37] I don't think there's a good way to do this, but this is the sort of Q that might benefit from the #support channel to avoid getting buried [19:20:58] good idea [19:22:23] Thanks. My original plan was to upload images of a certain type first and get those pages ready, then another type and their pages, and so on. Should i just get all the images in one zip file to simplify it, or is it easy enough to do it over multiple requests? [19:23:40] Whatever's clever, though minimizing work for our the limited hours of our tech team is always preferred [19:27:51] The only way I can think of to do this is a lot of painful xml cleanup/pattern match before import, byw [19:28:14] Hopefully someone brings a better idea to the table [19:29:13] it feels like something that should be possible with an extension - having [[United States]] parse as a link to Hex:United_States in the Hex: namespace but as [[:United_States]] in mainspace and [[Libre:United_States]] in the Libre: namespace [19:29:14] [1/2] [19:29:14] [2/2] [19:29:20] ignore wikibot lol [19:34:53] No, it's everything. Once Google auth's the property it Cascades down to all sub pages courtesy of wikiseo [19:38:25] Worked! But uh, Pinterest and Yandex are failing me [19:38:40] Bing imported it directly from Google so that should be fine [19:39:23] I'm wondering how to make it have better SEO? If hundreds of clicks pour in would it be enough to prop it up? [19:40:05] _me currently doing a phorge task and having to delete hundreds of thousands of pages_ [19:40:28] doing phorge tasks in the big 26 [19:40:32] where it definitely would have been easier to just not have those pages in the xml in the first place [19:44:53] rip [19:56:25] Biggest thing is building organic traffic by sharing (not spamming) relevant links in communities of interest [19:56:53] For wikis about games, this is much easier e.g. if the game has a discord or subreddit [19:56:54] Have some of that definitely [19:57:02] hi, guys :3 [19:57:25] So genuine clicks spread over a period of time? Oki, yeah that's cool. [19:57:33] Hello ^^ [19:57:55] Also having logical and frequent interlinking of pages is of benefit [19:58:06] [1/3] what could be the reason for a missing icon? it's on the commons wiki and was displaying properly earlier just fine. [19:58:06] [2/3] https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Lua_logo.svg [19:58:06] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512908462110277642/image.png?ex=6a25cd4d&is=6a247bcd&hm=7abe4e0b123188f945dfdb4d0b994f7ffa7789dc2c049f1b98bb026705bc9857& [19:58:17] Not spamming, again, but having fewer dead end pages is beneficial [19:58:36] Have those as well [19:58:50] Thanks for all the help actually, I learned a lot today [19:59:00] Any more wisdom for me pls? [19:59:11] Beyond that, just a matter of time and patience [20:00:05] All search engines are pretty black box, so working to build something that's legitimately helpful and gets people to what they're looking for goes the longest way [20:01:26] One thing that's nice about the cosmos layout is that the navigation panel is pretty customizable, so taking some thought (and inspiration from other wikis) in "what are people visiting to get answers on" and laying out accordingly is worth your time [20:02:08] So things that are most looked for in the first page? [20:02:15] (which seeing GSC panel info helps with understanding) [20:02:38] Noting this all down 😭 [20:03:02] Rather, organize your navigation in such a way that people can get to what they're looking for and can understand what they're looking at. [20:03:56] Can confirm as someone who has a handful of fairly successful wikis on wiki.gg [20:04:33] But Fandom with its VC money always buys out the top spots though? 😞 [20:04:38] (And one WG-hosted wiki that I admin) [20:04:39] <_arawynn> is once again very glad to not need worry about that [20:04:55] Both of my wikis beat fandom in search order [20:05:02] Mister Approver Guy! [20:05:06] Hello πŸ‘‹ [20:05:11] It's not impossible [20:05:43] You've all given me a lot of hope tbh, I hope it all works out! [20:05:44] Look at this! [20:07:19] A lot of these wikis have a lot more content than their Fandom counterparts [20:08:39] Interesting [20:08:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512911134896820294/Screenshot_20260606-210802.png?ex=6a25cfcb&is=6a247e4b&hm=26a753330725b559490db6104e934e5e7b83eb3d6c84ac9931ac9f8afc410a37& [20:09:09] With small and dedicated teams, it won't be hard to beat the Fandom counterpart [20:09:22] Weird, I use incognito [20:09:40] Search is so fickle (and even regional) [20:10:07] yup sucks ass [20:10:19] I do the same and it still isn't always consistent when I test different devices or geo endpoints [20:10:20] Yeah, it makes so sense [20:10:50] Especially since illusion carnival wiki.gg is like around triple the size of fandom [20:11:12] Still, top two and a saner URL [20:13:09] I guess it's also a personalized thing [20:13:27] Fandom sucks [20:13:42] i'm going to have to SEO out of my mind when I get Zootopedia into a better state [20:13:44] like if you have your account happen to visit fandom more often, maybe this would be taken into consideration? [20:14:02] which is why you should install Indie Wiki Buddy [20:14:13] (and submit all your wikis to it if they're not there already) [20:14:17] oh yeah, don't worry, I do [20:14:46] I single-handedly submitted like dozens of wikis to this extension lol [20:14:54] nice [20:15:47] and on the day when an editor team of mine gets their wiki published, I submit the wiki to indie wiki buddy [20:16:05] (always the case if it is a fork, and sometimes the case when it is a completely new wiki) [20:16:57] Our MH wiki is starting to appear pretty consistently above our old home on Fandom, it's been about 10 months since we migrated and we've been updating just about every day while leaving the Fandom one to die [20:19:38] MH? [20:19:45] Mingdom Hearts..? [20:19:49] miraheze [20:19:50] also HI JANE!!! [20:19:57] oh fuck how can I forgot [20:20:03] Hellauuur [20:20:04] mingdom hearts goes so hard tho [20:20:18] nah [20:20:24] Yeah i'd play mingdom hearts [20:20:28] I bet it has mod support [20:20:29] Either use a gadget or use common.js. See https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template%3AStatCalc for an example slider. [20:20:48] Of course it does, the M in mingdom stood for mod support haha [20:21:06] This is game dev done properly 😀 [20:27:28] You'd need `$wgMirahezeCommons` for that. Alternatively use `File:Lua-Logo.svg` since that one exists on Wikimedia Commons, which you already enabled. [22:25:44] Miraheze updated its Discord logo! [23:20:25] Need some help with CSS code and shit [23:21:04] [1/2] How do I fix this??? I don't want these casettes to look like they're stacked like this [23:21:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1512959540805501059/image.png?ex=6a25fcdf&is=6a24ab5f&hm=b3aecca6898b928bb6e8f17526e82591e8e1a94354bc04b363a483317fb4a977& [23:23:08] [1/16] the code in question: [23:23:08] [2/16] ```