[00:13:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mooncloud> A
[00:47:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [1/2] Im looking to create an automated gallery using bucketget, similar to this instance of dpl. I cant really use the <gallery> parser as it breaks the userformat, and ive tried using nowiki as well as stripping the nowiki but to no avail.
[00:47:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1513706111092527184/image.png?ex=6a28b42c&is=6a2762ac&hm=399a0dac2545f10faebef69e5d44878fcb943b03e058682675a494feb4e327dd&
[00:48:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> hopefully its not one of those things that arent possible because being able to automate galleries is extremely useful
[01:12:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to yzxs> Would BucketGet work for your use case if both intro and outro can be `nowiki` escaped?
[01:12:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Alternatively you might be able to use `{{#tag:gallery|...`
[01:13:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs, replying to posix_memalign> Thats what i tried. first i just did standard nowiki, then i tried making a separate template that returned the gallery header, then i tried using wwr's nonowiki template
[01:13:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [1/2] best i get is this
[01:13:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1513712689728196638/image.png?ex=6a28ba4c&is=6a2768cc&hm=6084b9140fa8ea933a89140f98ddb2f9734b9644d980f0d0e3cd8bb5188d5545&
[01:14:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs, replying to posix_memalign> ill try this
[01:18:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to yzxs> intro and outro don't support nowiki right now. I could add support for them though.
[01:19:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs, replying to posix_memalign> ah ic, yeah that would definitely allow for some more flexibility
[01:20:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> i dont think i can use #tag either because i cant properly use userformat within a template
[01:20:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> at least from the looks of it
[01:37:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [1/6] This is how i currently have it, if nowiki can work for intro/outro this would be perfect
[01:37:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [2/6] ```
[01:37:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [3/6] |intro=<nowiki><gallery navigation="true" widths="190">/nowiki<br>
[01:37:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [4/6] |userformat=<nowiki>File:%image%|'''[[%page_name%|%name%]]'''<br />{{#if:%start%|{{#time:F Y|@%start%}}|%duration%}}|link=%page_name%/nowiki<br>
[01:37:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [5/6] |outro=<nowiki>/gallery/nowiki
[01:37:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [6/6] ```
[01:43:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/6] Ok all done. You'd want to enclose the whole thing in nowiki by the way, so it would be
[01:43:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/6] ```
[01:43:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [3/6] <nowiki><gallery navigation="true" widths="190">
[01:43:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [4/6] /nowiki
[01:43:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [5/6] ```
[01:43:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [6/6] Without the `<br>`. br will not be interpreted as a newline by Lua.
[01:45:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Forgot to ping @yzxs
[01:55:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> wow that was fast
[01:56:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs, replying to posix_memalign> [1/2] ok this looks good, however its only showing 1 image. even weirder is this image is for the first event in the gallery, yet the text u see under it is for the last
[01:56:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs, replying to posix_memalign> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1513723356908748841/image.png?ex=6a28c43b&is=6a2772bb&hm=bd0f3c68fb119eb686a98b07e9f038e0264276afc2118095ebfb9520ecc06955&
[02:08:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to yzxs> Add a newline before `/nowiki` in `userformat`. Don't use `<br>` to insert a new line. That will not work.
[02:09:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Actually there's an evenly simpler method. Just set `delimiter` to `\n`.
[02:11:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> forgot about that, works great now
[02:11:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> thanks a lot
[03:10:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> Has anyone done automatic tables in CSS's `display:grid` in a form of a template/module? Say you throw the items in a table and it just figures out how many columns (or rows) it needs to display everything based on the specified row (or column) count
[03:12:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> since iterating through table rows / cells would be probably slower while `display: grid` exists
[03:14:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> [1/2] I may be overcomplicating things though on a second thought
[03:14:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> [2/2] why not just use a table
[03:15:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> idk I'm too zoned out lol
[03:17:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> is there any way to change the default width for citizen?
[03:17:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> instead of it being standard
[03:18:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_, replying to ext_> I only wanted to ask because I don't know if I'm about to re-invent the wheel when it was done before me in 2304 BC
[03:19:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> the only real issue here would be determining line height if there's some stuff that is taller than letters, say an icon of something
[03:23:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> also the cost of invoking it and general MW processing would probably outweigh the benefits 🥀
[03:40:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to prabhasxd> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1513749574421057716/image.png?ex=6a28dca6&is=6a278b26&hm=33f40cc48d242b530d1be1f6153514359fc569565c93f178473bd9d5422e9cba&
[03:40:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to unai> no im asking about a setting in Special:ManageWiki/settings
[03:41:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> forgot to mention that woops
[03:41:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> I don't understand the need for that but you can use CSS
[03:42:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> hm
[03:42:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> okay
[03:42:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> [1/5] ```css
[03:42:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> [2/5] :root.citizen-feature-custom-width-clientpref-standard {
[03:42:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> [3/5]     --width-layout: 1080px;
[03:42:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> [4/5] }
[03:42:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> [5/5] ```
[08:02:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raftropos> Are there skins with bad optimisation (on mobile devices)?
[09:07:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zh9567, replying to janebuzjane> This seems to make all vertical list in navbox align to the left by default. Is there another way that I can decide whether the list in the navbox should be align to the left or center?
[11:16:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to ext_> not sure what the question means here, grid isn't really something you use when you don't know how many columns you have
[12:34:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <albany_prim0> [1/2] FUUUUUUCK YOU GOOGLE.
[12:34:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <albany_prim0> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1513883895551230235/Screenshot_20260609_203351_One_UI_Home.jpg?ex=6a2959bf&is=6a28083f&hm=8276b90faed8636ef5a2aa59907749028651ff3cca875a7448d96331c8429f54&
[13:03:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <momentary_loss, replying to albany_prim0> I feel you man 😭
[13:03:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <momentary_loss> Yandex, Pinterest, Bing, none of those are working for me
[13:14:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to zh9567> [1/2] Duplicate the class and change the name to something like `navbox-left` and use `text-align: left` instead of center
[13:14:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to zh9567> [2/2] Then choose which classes to apply to your lists
[13:34:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_, replying to thewwrnerdguy> why not? it could figure it out based on how many rows there should be
[15:14:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> How heavy CSS do you think is too hevay?
[15:31:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to ext_> flex is for when you don't know how many columns you want
[15:32:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_, replying to thewwrnerdguy> but then I have to set the max height and even then I'm not so sure if the columns will have same amount of rows no?
[15:33:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_, replying to eytirth> anything on client for me is OK lmao as long as it isn't a lot of CSS to send
[15:34:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> like how heavy can it be on a mediawiki page
[15:34:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> either way I'm probably overthinking things
[15:38:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to ext_> What are you actually trying to do here? I'm not sure what anything you're saying means.
[15:40:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> nvm
[15:42:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <q38wf> Miraheze is banned in my buddy's school because he was caught editing italian brainrot wiki during class
[15:43:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <albany_prim0, replying to q38wf> That's such a stupid reason
[15:44:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <albany_prim0> Like, I get banning a subject, but a whole ass provider... something?
[15:44:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <albany_prim0> What is Miraheze even... I dunno what it's classified as
[15:45:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_, replying to albany_prim0> a wikifarm
[15:46:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> A hosting provider in the broader sense
[15:46:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> pretty sure none of the resources these students need are on miraheze lol
[15:46:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <albany_prim0> True...
[15:46:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <albany_prim0> Unless there's a niche-ass miraheze wiki on shit like... algebra???
[15:46:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> Probably IT not understanding that Miraheze hosts many different wikis. Or they just decided the whole thing has to do because it’s not sufficiently educational for them, which is dumb but possible
[15:47:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> Miraheze does have legitimately educational content though, like Rosetta Code
[15:49:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_, replying to wikitideharej> it's easier to exclude everything than to manually cherrypick each subdomain
[15:50:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> schools 🤝 blocking useful educational content
[15:50:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_, replying to wikitideharej> not everyone knows of this and generally it is frowned upon to use sources outside of what the teacher is usually providing during class
[15:51:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> it is what it is
[15:51:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ext_> I assume the classes weren't even coding/math related
[16:27:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to wikitideharej> if it's only block based on miraheze's domain name, `rosettacode.org` should still be available
[17:05:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <terminatorfan1984> Alright I am still struggling a little with the whole groups thing
[17:19:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to q38wf> Funny how it's not even on mh anymore
[17:21:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> Has it gone?
[17:47:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> It’s ok wikioasis now
[18:01:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> Huh
[18:02:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation> some ppl lwk threatening to get wiki banned :LMFAO_WTF_AWPT:
[18:03:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation> i mean its not allowed right?
[18:51:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dimitrys_af> [1/5] Hello! I'm having issues with the Translate extension and generally with Translations. As a last resort I've been following this guide: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki
[18:51:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dimitrys_af> [2/5] It used to work fine a while ago, but now it doesn't. After preparing a page with `Special:PagePreparation`, `Special:PageTranslation` stays completely empty, and trying to mark a syntactically valid page via `?do=mark&target=` still gives this error:
[18:51:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dimitrys_af> [3/5] > The page PAGE is not suitable for translation. Make sure it has <translate> tags and has valid syntax. View the list of translatable pages.
[18:51:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dimitrys_af> [4/5] This happens even on a minimal test page that only contains plain text plus the tags `Special:PagePreparation` added, nothing else. So it's not a content/syntax issue. `Special:Version` shows Translate is loaded (2025-07-31, 2f918a5), I have the `pagetranslation` permission, and disabling/re-enabling the extension via ManageWiki made no difference. 
[18:51:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dimitrys_af> [5/5] Should I open a support ticket?
[19:01:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to dimitrys_af> which wiki were you trying this on?
[19:10:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dimitrys_af, replying to thewwrnerdguy> https://hellenicconstitution.miraheze.org
[19:23:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theonewhoeatmountain> Whats the difference between Ambox and Mbox
[19:31:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> [1/2] ambox = article message box (i.e. boxes supposed to be called on content namespaces only)
[19:31:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> [2/2] mbox = multi-namespace message box (i.e. boxes that may be called independently of namespace)
[20:36:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mateo_1er> jloht ojo kp566h
[21:16:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to mateo_1er> https://tenor.com/view/imbarbarian-gif-10487863430577917562
[22:58:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> i cant find thhe issue anywhere and im going crazy haha
[23:05:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> for some reason changing it to be a sum of the two subtemplates work, even though the parent template works on its own