[00:08:51] Is there a way to have this work for logged out users (the majority or all users): https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Always_dark_mode Dark mode default for Vector 2022 skin? [00:14:42] something like https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1523911517714776074/1524169485022658591 [00:17:13] Yes. But for Vector 2022 skin, instead of Timeless. [00:18:57] Oh. That's essentially the same thing. I'll read again. [00:59:40] Yes, there's a setting for it, however it requires a [Phorge ticket]() since it isn't in managewiki as of rn [01:03:45] [1/2] Thanks. Right now the solution in the the URL I cited works everywhere but the main page. But, thanks. [01:03:46] [2/2] Are there different credentials for the phorge ticketing site? It doesn't recognize me. [01:03:59] login with mediawiki button only [01:04:03] login field is a death trap [01:04:19] I've whined about its prominence for years [01:07:27] Thanks. [01:08:31] Actually, it now work on the main page. So, I think I don't need a ticket. Thanks. [02:03:17] Why is it that, with devtools open and cache disabled, changes to js/css seem to take a while to appear? Are changes propagating across servers? [02:34:53] The cache disabled tickbox only affects your browser cache [02:35:16] It does not affect the other two layers of cache between you and our servers [02:35:25] Well two relevant caches [03:40:37] quick question, how do i get extensions that aren't listed in the ManageWiki extensions page? can i download them manually? [03:43:01] [(it's this one)](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Discord) [04:01:09] <_noa__> [1/5] Hallo, [04:01:10] <_noa__> [2/5] I'm currently working on my wiki for our polsim rp game and I'm trying to make a table pretty, but I'm not seeing how to format the stuff inside the table. Can I do this in the visual editor or do I need to do this in code? I'd like to have a page similar to the US presidents wikipedia page where I have a thin stripe of blank color to indicate party [04:01:10] <_noa__> [3/5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States [04:01:10] <_noa__> [4/5] https://eogb.miraheze.org/wiki/Prime_Minister [04:01:10] <_noa__> [5/5] I also am looking at how to do the biography info box on the right hand side but I'm not finding the template for it. [04:05:39] You cannot. Also, DiscordNotifications is already enabled on your wiki. [04:23:38] question, if you download an xml file for your wiki does that include images or only text [04:23:59] my wiki is my newborn baby so imma put it on a flash drive just in case anything happens to it [04:24:24] and it has a bunch of rare photographs [04:28:54] oh alright. thanks [04:30:27] how do you set it up? [04:30:30] if not, are there any formats that do support photos? [04:30:35] oop sorry [06:20:22] text only [06:20:47] You can export the images (and xml by that nature) through maintanance scripts, that should be the easiest way to do it [06:21:14] Alrighty then, thanks! [06:36:22] [1/2] Any idea what this REDIRECT Template:H1 is? [06:36:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525027886510243881/image.png?ex=6a51e465&is=6a5092e5&hm=31cc5b1f02987debab99f04d582c601465cedc94ae8d43e84e9535b475755eb9& [06:43:00] [1/4] In your article, you use ```{{H1:place2022}}``` [06:43:00] [2/4] and if you check code for your template: https://place-wiki.stefanocoding.me/wiki/Template:H1 [06:43:00] [3/4] you will see it just redirects to itself (loop). [06:43:01] [4/4] You need to create H1 Template, to make ```{{H1:place2022}}``` work properly [06:51:01] Huh I see [06:51:05] I don't even know what H1 did [06:52:06] Oh, it's litterly an Header1 [06:52:08] breh [06:52:29] Gotta love migrating entire wiki's :Pain: :Bonk: [07:35:55] When a wiki's content was imported, all of the edits were attributed to interwiki-linked users. Is there a way to manually reassign these edits to Miraheze accounts? [11:49:45] [1/2] Trying to get to Fandom Support to get them reopen wiki for short period of time to download all images [11:49:46] [2/2] Now trynna get them using GDPR [12:04:17] GDPR doesn't allow you access to images, only personal data. [12:06:15] it doesn't cover content which person personally provided? [12:06:47] nope [12:07:15] bruh [12:07:23] Those images aren't your data technicly yours [12:07:55] While images you uploaded might fit under the GDPR data requests, they are attatched to the wiki,r ather then your personal data profile [12:09:47] [1/10] -# Gemini research because I am at work and can't really type to much about this [12:09:48] [2/10] --- [12:09:48] [3/10] ## 1. "Personal Data" vs. "User-Generated Content" [12:09:48] [4/10] The GDPR gives you the right to access and download your personal data (Article 15, Right of Access) and port it elsewhere (Article 20, Data Portability). [12:09:48] [5/10]  What counts as personal data: Information that directly or indirectly identifies you* as a human being. This includes your username, email address, IP address, account creation date, and transaction history. [12:09:49] [6/10] * What doesn't count: General wiki content. If MelClov uploaded video game screenshots, fan art, or character logos to a wiki, those files do not contain information that identifies them personally. They are considered user-generated content, not personal data. [12:09:49] [7/10] ## 2. Fandom’s Official Policy Reflects This [12:09:49] [8/10] When you submit a GDPR "Download Your Data" request to Fandom, their system explicitly tells you what you get: [12:09:50] [9/10] > "The data / personal information we provide is username, user ID, real name (if provided), email address, account creation date, and a link to a list of your contributions." [12:09:50] [10/10] They will give you a list showing that you uploaded files, but they will not package up and send you the actual media files themselves. [12:11:32] if it might still worth a try even if it's small chance to get images and maps uploaded to wiki [12:11:55] No. You don't get the images through a GDPR request. [12:12:07] You need to ask their support team, and hope they respond. [12:12:09] put `?debug=2` at the end of the url [12:12:30] they responded and basically said "we won't reopen wiki", that's why i'm doing GDPR request [12:12:37] you can request an image dump on [[phorge]] [12:12:37] [12:13:06] I wouldn't do GDPR request if I wouldn't fail at getting images in first place [12:13:51] The GDPR request (as per their own terms) does not give you images. [12:14:00] They will hand over your personal data, and nothing else. [12:15:03] yes, if you request on [[phorge]] [12:15:04] [12:15:08] alr [12:15:31] quess I'll try to google specifically every image or try to reverse engineer static.wikia.nocookie to get every image [12:15:37] Is it based on username -> username based on best effort? [12:15:52] https://community.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000003453410 [12:17:24] thank you very much! [12:37:10] question, how do I do it if let's say &path-prefix=ru, because if you delete it, no matter what, if it is deleted, whole image won't open [12:39:03] nvm I found out how [12:47:48] is DB used which is in dump ? [12:58:31] That'll depend on your wiki on fandom, I woudn't directly know and would refer you back to the fandom community, and/or support team. [13:06:00] [1/5] my experiments: [13:06:01] [2/5] apparently closed wikis require for some reason code of creation like - cb=20190928132020 [13:06:01] [3/5] But for existing you can just remove it, trying to find a way to bypass this shit [13:06:01] [4/5] I am trying to google images on google web search, however it may be that for closed wiki it uses diffrent database name, as database is also diffrent from .xml [13:06:02] [5/5] however using database name from .xml or trying to change it on google searched URLs gave me 0 thing, in fact it only makes images empty [13:10:58] Do note when you are working against fandom [13:11:02] [[Help:Moving_from_Fandom]] [13:11:03] [13:11:36] And [[Moving_a_wiki_to_Miraheze]] [13:11:37] [13:12:03] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525127465385594950/image.png?ex=6a524123&is=6a50efa3&hm=a7637d307efed57b8bb0dbf875fd4840c0240261efcf64c955b0540fdb32997a& [13:12:05] do any of y'all know if we can add anon comment to one specific page while keeping other page logged user only? (CommentStreams) [13:13:18] Maybe [13:13:45] Realisticly, the anonymous group would need `cs-comment` and `edit` as permissions [13:14:05] But that would open up your wiki to spam, so I'm not sure you can do that. [13:14:11] yes, but I dont want anon to edit freely the wiki [13:14:55] like just cs-comment, I've tried but anon can comment anywhere with it [13:15:29] like is there some kind of hook code I can ask a staff to add? [13:15:40] [1/2] There are plugins that restrict it on per page access, but those have been declined for security reasons [13:15:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525128376892002435/image.png?ex=6a5241fc&is=6a50f07c&hm=33196255de22f18d2e2a6f72fa6411d276fcc15405a6aa8a1806798da6987e08& [13:15:56] yikes [13:16:32] Alternativly, you could look for the "Comments" extension, and place a comment block on pages where it should exist. Then grant anonymous the permission to comment there. [13:17:19] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Comments [13:17:37] [[mw:Extension:Comments]] [13:17:38] [13:18:00] wait, so will it get weird with CommentStream on too? [13:18:08] [1/3] speaking of comments, does anyone know how you would add these features with the commentstreams extension present on the battle cats wiki? I'm specifically talking about the profile pictures, and the discussion/talk pages section on pages being replaced with comments [13:18:09] [2/3] [13:18:09] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525128996910661662/image.png?ex=6a524290&is=6a50f110&hm=8e5696a820be1f7a56434bf6f4d5b30c91885f6671c937806b3dcaa561d1fc87& [13:18:15] I recon you can't use both at the same [13:18:35] [1/2] You can also add hooks to https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/main/LocalWiki.php but I don't recommend that unless you know what you are doing. [13:18:35] [2/2] Imo the fear of anon editing is overblown. Vandalism isn't that bad on most wikis. [13:18:52] hmm still awkward in some way [13:19:22] [1/2] Huh, suprisingly they do work together. [13:19:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525129305288347688/image.png?ex=6a5242d9&is=6a50f159&hm=8b9aae33b340532af2449778169ed3b5560d1b62590ea91ec0975781f86bd93c& [13:19:31] It's just blocked for me due to protectionindicator [13:19:42] oh, I see, thank you! [13:23:38] @thewwrnerdguy would you be able to help with this? :ThinkerMH: [15:04:47] (with UserProfileV2), [15:05:32] for the thing specifically shown in your image [15:06:56] it's based on a manual list of user->user, generally we'd expect the admins of the wiki to provide this list. Specifically it would be done with I think [16:09:45] [1/4] am I missing something? the js doesn't seem to do anything and the gadget doesn't seem to load either [16:09:45] [2/4] [16:09:45] [3/4] [16:09:45] [4/4] [16:22:04] doesn't do anything, you'll need to remove the last `});` and replace it with `pageHeaderComment()` [16:22:56] oh and the other thing I forgot about is you need to copy this block too [16:59:07] [1/2] How do I edit this area? [16:59:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525184606859563119/image.png?ex=6a52765a&is=6a5124da&hm=b3d9a1add4027ff8c3fa24704cd61acc45452c9ee513a6222480a2e3c6dac449& [17:21:54] MediaWiki:Sidebar [17:24:22] [1/2] I tried that but it doesn't seem to be working [17:24:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525190963188858991/image.png?ex=6a527c46&is=6a512ac6&hm=d1d32aee45d433cb2723bb4510c9bc25eab4fec9d5f925e70957097265c7c112& [17:25:12] <_arawynn> I wouldn't be surprised if it's cached [17:27:34] [1/2] wait it worked only the others won't appear [17:27:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525191766364520458/image.png?ex=6a527d05&is=6a512b85&hm=d88179c8056213aeae109caf8628cb41529d9d1fc764fc881ba3b4377931db7a& [17:42:34] [1/2] You have to put the name of the link after a pipe [17:42:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525195542051688508/Screenshot_20260710_134117_Kiwi_Browser.jpg?ex=6a528089&is=6a512f09&hm=0be84742a991f67431c1f9860a42e336a5a763f15e3fb2330f8667fbf6b964b5& [17:43:18] You have to put what you want to call the page after a pipe delimiter in the nav [17:43:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525195894591324280/Screenshot_20260710_134117_Kiwi_Browser.jpg?ex=6a5280de&is=6a512f5e&hm=8565ed67b04cc1bb254e892087c193bb4949af11f2a74a713ff647d72c3d4e0f& [17:44:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525195973385781359/Screenshot_20260710_134117_Kiwi_Browser.jpg?ex=6a5280f0&is=6a512f70&hm=140dd14040a9ad374484cc6933d99facb5e2cbc3beeb552670f3cd50af54260e& [17:45:34] [1/2] Like `Speedpaints|Speedpaints` [17:45:34] [2/2] For every line [17:53:30] [1/3] guys, what does this multi-factor authentication mean?? like its not the 6 digit code on the authentification app?? [17:53:31] [2/3] now I'm kinda locked out, how long does this ban last? [17:53:31] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525198295079714999/Capture_decran_2026-07-10_195112.png?ex=6a52831a&is=6a51319a&hm=ac198c1779501f10938dd91cebd5f32f0027443bd7caa6a8397a4225e1799bc5& [18:03:34] I mean it tells you [18:03:50] If it's Phorge, it has its own MFA, it's not the same as your on wiki [18:03:57] I can't tell what that is though [18:04:42] this is awkward I can't log into phorge using mediawiki if it need me to type in a mfa that I dont have [18:05:04] Have you lost your Phorge MFA then? [18:05:28] I didnt even set up a mfa for phorge in the first place [18:05:52] I mean if that's Phorge and it's asking you for MFA then you did [18:06:09] Email tech[at]miraheze.org and we'll see what we can do [18:06:19] well I did recently for my miraheze account but definitely not for phorge [18:06:27] Tbh it might be a first [18:06:44] We'll need your on wiki and Phorge username [18:07:17] kk [18:22:27] [1/2] Got it, thanks 👍 [18:22:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525205579155378187/image.png?ex=6a5289e3&is=6a513863&hm=14377302b9aafcacccb59ff5a26523cc9bcd904a69d1c47c3ccc3f117507dced& [19:24:17] I've uninstalled and reinstalled my MFA app and now it's showing up, I apologize for the unconvenience I caused [19:25:43] It's fine [20:31:33] Hey is there an easy way to mass replace every instance of "{{Gamename}}" with "{{SITENAME}}" on a wiki? [20:31:34] [20:33:28] -# Shush, not helpful. [20:34:26] [1/2] [20:34:27] [2/2] has options for that [20:35:39] Actually looking again... i think I'll need to just replace it with the text "One Step From Eden" [20:35:55] Still everywhere [20:36:07] Alternatively you can just make the template render that text [20:53:14] Uhhh, looks like I'll have to wait until I'm at my desk & laptop for that? [20:53:44] iunno I don't edit on mboile. [20:54:45] Eh, I've got a comfy tablet. [21:13:38] [1/2] oh dear [21:13:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525248659002888353/image.png?ex=6a52b202&is=6a516082&hm=da7b9a94d59cc8c55e1c11d602a09eac128150d6d4ba3bd153b284625969ace4& [21:14:13] nevermind its up again [21:18:33] [1/2] Welp, shit is fuuuuuuuucked. [21:18:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525249895777304768/Screenshot_20260710_230953_Firefox.jpg?ex=6a52b328&is=6a5161a8&hm=243e2f0ecb20e6621a54d99bf6ac16759ca4b8a186db5dc170eb57afac28f200& [21:19:42] Now I'm going to have to learn how to fix..... so.. much.... stuff... [21:28:09] long time no see [21:29:36] yeah unfortunately cargo is just that bad. if you ever go to #tech-ops you can see the constant warnings about db load and subsequently mw* servers not being able to render pages, you can see why we want to be really careful about enabling extensions that we know cause problems for our databases. [21:30:04] wait damn the actual Doug in here [21:30:13] hey, yes [21:30:25] did I know you by another name during my time as steward, Skye? [21:30:37] I haven't kept up on all the renames lol [21:30:46] I was planning to migrate of off it eventually... i just wanted to be able to read the wiki [21:30:53] (I'm not actually skye, I'm her minion) [21:31:07] ah, interesting! [21:31:11] Who is doug? [21:31:40] I used to go by Dmehus, but usurped a zero edit user `Doug` and was renamed [21:32:36] At the time, I was the only T&S Responder and reported to Owen [21:33:22] looks like your time as a steward ended in 2022 so no definitely not, my account was created in 2023 but I didn't start being active globally until 2025 [21:33:47] you would not know either I think [21:34:08] [1/2] How the fuck do i migrate this without being able to see what I'm doing?? [21:34:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525253817866649691/Screenshot_20260710_233302_Firefox.jpg?ex=6a52b6d0&is=6a516550&hm=20fbae57ded89d725540a824c6c7f4cd0eb26bd1a1354172c4996c307e0144ce& [21:34:31] I'd say fresh blood but one is an outright board member so I suppose one is usually here for a hot minute before that happens [21:34:47] ah! [21:35:15] is Waki285 still a GS or were they a steward? [21:35:43] (You use One/Oneself ? ) [21:35:47] waki is still on the books [21:35:56] but life caught up to them so not seen much [21:36:04] nah, just some odd phrasing [21:36:17] Alright? [21:36:39] I would say the most distinct developments have been in tech since your time doug [21:37:02] though I think pix is entirely new from your time who has reached an also new second-to-steward position just ahead of global administrator [21:37:40] NA has taken and held the fort of trust and safety, accompanied by skye and harej [21:38:02] (Is it at all easy to migrate a wiki from cargo to bucket?..) [21:38:07] he is the leading steward by a good margin on activity, filling the role we both had at different times [21:38:40] ah, that's good. CA is still a T&S Responder (not sure how 'active' in that role, considering his activity on the tech and board side of things) [21:38:50] more active than you? [21:39:01] ah yes that's true too, I definitely see CA as the tech and tend to forget the TS hat [21:39:08] considerably and for some time [21:39:33] I like to think I still hold second place though [21:40:52] [1/3] so it seems like a lot of these script errors are just the same template, and if you convert that template to use some other structured data system (Bucket, DPL, JSON pages), you can reduce a significant amount of the errors in one fell swoop. [21:40:52] [2/3] It might be difficult to see what you're doing, however the Fandom version of this wiki still exists and can serve as a reference point [21:40:52] [3/3] If you need any advice/help on any specific template, you can open up a #support thread over here [21:41:46] ... i don't even know how Templates work [21:42:37] I'll still try to give everything my best shot.. [21:44:15] What data system do you recommend i start to learn? [21:45:50] Bucket is the one closest to Cargo. [[help:structured data]] goes over the different options available [21:45:51] [21:52:43] Alright, thanks! [22:35:25] (Late to the party but responding since I was tagged) Agree that opening a #support thread here to document would be good - lots of Bucket experts willing to answer questions and stuff [22:46:42] (How would i format such a thread? I don't even think i know what to ask for help about yet?) [23:06:55] how do i upload a video in my wiki [23:13:57] Hmm, I'd just title it something like "moving from cargo to bucket" and put some links in there to the cargo query module and templates that WWRNerd mentioned in the answer to your request. Basically, asking how to convert your structured data storage from cargo to bucket.