[01:14:49] No pls not my wiki [01:16:26] A few db are down. What do we do [01:19:01] Bad gateway grrrr:moonch: [01:33:08] maintenance again? [01:33:14] :stare: [01:34:26] wiki is now dead [01:34:35] 😭 [01:35:04] :tropicalwikis: [01:35:10] Taiwan (/j) [01:38:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525315248188297276/image.png?ex=6a52f006&is=6a519e86&hm=f31b112b226e75dd0cc425f36614797eb9af36322fe85eeeb1a3788d6fb1f295& [01:38:58] Access should be restored on all wiki [01:41:07] thanks!!! [01:41:13] :thanks::thanks::thanks: [01:41:17] [1/2] i just wanted to create an account to update the 1x page cuz it was so messed up but whoever this is apparently has an account logged into my own personal PC of 2 years that i got built whoever dualcon is i apologize but i rewrote the whole 1x article before realizing i didnt even make a sexypedia account so if this is u don’t mind it [01:41:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525316013531467816/IMG_4789.jpg?ex=6a52f0bc&is=6a519f3c&hm=5e619409f8013bea94767ef4952eedb1ffd5b428863a90df6619eb6fc04f8c67& [01:58:34] sexypedia what the hell [02:16:53] [1/4] Hi everyone! Has there been a recent update to either the Citizen skin or MediaWiki? [02:16:53] [2/4] I noticed today that the first paragraph of every article is now always rendered above images and infoboxes, pushing them down to the next line. Previously, the lead image and infobox would float on the right from the very beginning of the article. [02:16:54] [3/4] Has anyone else seen this behavior or knows what changed? [02:16:54] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525324974741651506/image.png?ex=6a52f915&is=6a51a795&hm=7b75ebdde36061083325a54c9b4cf75dd988ffa8b425e2e83fca6e504bbab3a1& [02:17:54] Also VisualEditor doesn't work, only the Code Editor. [02:51:42] [1/2] This is something that the extension [MobileFrontend]() does: [02:51:42] [2/2] > notably section collapsing and content re-arrangement and removal, including putting the lead paragraph above the lead photo or info box, even if the lead paragraph is below them in the page's source code. [02:52:12] [1/2] Looks normal on a desktop [02:52:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525333861528240158/image.png?ex=6a53015b&is=6a51afdb&hm=4a2d82172c40f44acfcf9a3cd2b35248cdd2afaf548b4e58f6625cd46fa1ba1f& [02:55:50] oh, thanks! I've just remembered I have clicked on "mobile view" yesterday for testing, thanks a lot! [02:57:21] [1/3] np [02:57:21] [2/3] looks like there may be a config to change that if you want, though take it with a grain of salt - I'm not super familiar with this extension [02:57:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525335157958119534/image.png?ex=6a530291&is=6a51b111&hm=bab2bdaf3caee2a8b9160327bb77516ee3e1ef5203e72386e15df33e83139277& [02:58:07] enabling that vis editor setting at the top might make it so visual editor shows on mobile (not sure though) [03:12:23] sexypedia itself [03:12:34] Am I able to change interwiki prefixes through ManageWiki or should I make a Phorge task? [03:13:38] (This is for a wiki that has forked and has some custom interwikis with thousands of uses) [03:17:48] you can go to Special:Interwiki and modify it from there [03:20:24] the sexy pediatric [03:24:45] It's a Tumblr meme that just kept on expanding until it was its own damn universe of in-jokes, as I understand it [03:24:56] More power to em [03:25:17] Human creativity is one heck of a thing [03:28:40] oh it sounds like an encyclopedia of tumblr sexymen makes sense [03:39:23] For real. [04:29:07] thanks, I think for a mobile version - first paragraph before infobox - is kinda make sense. [04:32:28] [1/3] Does anyone have the same "weird" analytics recently? Visits x6 and mostly to "Create account" 😄 Bots are getting active? [04:32:29] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525359095669063791/image.png?ex=6a5318dc&is=6a51c75c&hm=f6cbca138abaa33b1032c81c4f7c4ee9cdbe987b692e5e88b2a813e0c48810d6& [04:32:29] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525359096071458957/image.png?ex=6a5318dc&is=6a51c75c&hm=bfce3421a71482836f8a3869c2f6160cdbe0f2375220e853851e1d3f990dc70d& [04:54:21] Yeah it happens all the time and is the main reason for our recent downtime. Blocking bots is a game of whack-a-mole and isn't solvable unless we have a member of the technology team available at all times to deal with traffic anomalies. An alternative is to present Cloudflare challenges more frequently, which is something we hesitated to do. [05:27:17] [1/2] not that, but i was getting entries with unknown screen resolutions [05:27:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525372889006866462/image.png?ex=6a5325b4&is=6a51d434&hm=d9e8911758de92b330ced6b19456f37d072ff25f891360dc785cc2b48831ab1c& [05:29:44] [1/2] fried [05:29:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525373506328461352/image.png?ex=6a532647&is=6a51d4c7&hm=3f2a4f2674c2d06d8bb32b573e678e2989dec2458345c0edb270869c97e8cec6& [05:31:16] my wiki is as small enough for it to be a fraction of the entire pie chart 😭 [07:37:40] I feel sad that Tail64'2 vanished [07:52:27] Global admin + cvt is a lot of responsibility though, it's fair enough if people want a break. [07:53:28] Especially since from what I've seen Tali was doing a huge amount of the CVT work. [08:23:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525417278533926922/Screenshot_259.png?ex=6a534f0c&is=6a51fd8c&hm=3e5d98067bd0572599db5e714eedf2436d4708db0f180593ea5ec4114bfd1d2f& [08:23:41] I'm trying to decipher how this works.. can someone tell me directly? [08:24:05] It somehow used bucket [08:25:04] Doesn't look like the reference images of how to set up cargo though [08:25:47] I can't convert what I can't read.. [08:31:19] It's going a multitude of things, as it's a template. Meaning it also accepts arguments [08:31:19] ER.g. [08:32:09] The `` is used to designate to pages that it should ONLY use what's inside of the xml tags, this way. You can add documentation to the same page as the template. [08:32:38] [1/2] press this button, it can make the template easier to read [08:32:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525419533714722978/IMG_1054.png?ex=6a535125&is=6a51ffa5&hm=0648236d7157c489beabb8568b56b71ad7fa4dbcb9eebc6b529ab9f0889b6e8e& [08:32:39] Then the `{{doc}}/noinclude` is what gives you the documentation, that would link to -> https://onestepfromedencd.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Spells/doc [08:33:50] Now, inside of the template/code, there is a line for: `{{Query|spells|{{{1|}}}|{{{2|inline}}}|text={{{text|}}}}}` [08:34:25] That would refer to the following template: https://onestepfromedencd.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Query [08:34:54] If you look in there, you should be able to find (and hopefully convert) the cargo code. [08:36:26] [1/2] Do note that is has multiple query fields: [08:36:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525420490813079704/image.png?ex=6a535209&is=6a520089&hm=ca78cf04e1e6bfee4f392a3008749b8dc2ad97be50f2c15d895060c02903fe82& [08:36:39] All pointing to other pages that also do some funny stuff [08:39:34] ... would it be faster to rewrite this stuff from scratch at this point? [08:40:54] @thewwrnerdguy [08:41:06] [1/2] everything works now but the counter for comments wont update [08:41:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525421666174242936/image.png?ex=6a535322&is=6a5201a2&hm=c88b39644412fd624e479af392273803bf3230146b2e35611ff26383e1f3605e& [08:41:11] is there like an extension or something needed for it [08:41:45] This feels like an unholy mess.... [08:42:31] I was already planning on changing things as I go.... [08:44:13] I genuinely would rather learn how to rewrite most of the wiki then deal with this.. [08:47:13] Can I have any advice here.. [09:00:51] ...any [09:04:38] [1/2] advice..? [09:04:38] [2/2] -# please? [09:08:22] follow what your heart says [09:25:12] <.labster> [1/2] Any idea why half of the time my module produces this, while the other half of the time the code runs? [09:25:12] <.labster> [2/2] > Lua error in Module:Subpages_7 at line 83: attempt to call global 'bucket' (a nil value). [09:26:38] how long ago did you enable bucket [09:27:21] it's probably [09:30:43] <.labster> Yeah, I figured it was MangleWiki [09:31:53] <.labster, replying to thewwrnerdguy> July 6, so that was a 5 days ago [09:33:01] <.labster> Yeah, reloading https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Bucket:Tab can give different results [09:40:59] <.labster> ... on x-served-by: mw172.fsslc.wtnet and mw191.fsslc.wtnet [09:48:09] Hey, important but dum question; the modern warframe wiki is still running mediawiki, right? [09:48:33] It's safe to copy it for inspiration? [09:50:16] <.labster> Not sure what this wiki is, but in the footer of most wikis, it will tell you what the license for reuse is. [09:52:27] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ https://meta.weirdgloop.org/w/Licensing [09:52:49] These are what was at the bottom [09:55:01] <.labster> Yeah, generally safe to copy from, if you're not doing commercial stuff. If it's just design ideas, just pretend you're an AI and steal without asking. [09:58:24] Hey!💢 (the devs would probably be fine with me doing this if they had any idea? Considering everything I've ever heard about them?) [09:59:11] (They look like people, rather than faceless AAA devs) [10:06:30] ye [10:07:02] I think inspiration is fine, but copying is not [10:07:09] Any idea what they use for handling data? [10:07:18] just reference with attribution, as per the license [10:07:30] but you should probably re-license the wiki to CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 anyway [10:07:31] Nothing of unique note [10:07:40] because it was CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 on Gamepedia [10:08:00] I think, lemme check [10:08:08] That was the info for the warframe wiki? [10:08:17] Not osfe [10:08:21] no [10:08:30] actually, lemme make myself clear [10:09:02] warframe is CC BY-NC-SA 3.0, so if you made osfe licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 right now, then you can copy it [10:09:30] on fandom, osfe wiki was CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 [10:09:32] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ this is osfe [10:10:02] it should be changed to CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 [10:10:22] Alright? What's the difference? [10:10:23] via Special:ManageWiki/settings > Content Licensing [10:11:01] the difference is you or others cannot use your wiki's content for commercial purposes [10:11:34] The NC in the CC BY-SA 4.0 demarks it as “non-commercial” [10:13:49] I don't see an option for that? [10:15:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525445341934256178/image.png?ex=6a53692e&is=6a5217ae&hm=58bd6517e342aa3a3359c479868ff3811c82fad2f9238d53c3c065f88a5e4b4d& [10:15:18] in https://onestepfromeden.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings [10:15:49] [1/2] choose this [10:15:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525445500650913912/image.png?ex=6a536954&is=6a5217d4&hm=6f46937b07e389a0e256e22c9c167469197a0c1f40ec9c2559b7203323209ef8& [10:15:54] then save [10:17:08] Alright, I did it? [10:18:45] alright, now if you want, you can use a template from warframe wiki and link back to where you got it from in the edit summary [10:20:58] Don't want to 1 to 1 copy templates [10:22:06] Just wanted to learn how it's internal structures work, and apply that knowledge to my osfe wiki rewriting [10:23:16] ... but you didn't answer my ignorant/important question.. [10:24:37] How does the warframe wiki handle its data? Are they doing Bucket/Json/cargo [10:25:04] I don't know enough to know how to check this stuff.... [10:36:37] Definitely not Cargo because all WeirdGloop wikis do not use it. They have Bucket enabled in Special:Version but only a test bucket exists when checking the bucket NS Special:AllPages. Lua is what they use if you check module namespace in Special:AllPages. [10:36:57] chat how do I download extensions to wiki? [10:37:44] Special:ManageWiki/extensions [10:38:13] I believe the osfe wiki used a mix of Lua and Cargo? [10:38:32] I may not have to start from scratch? [10:38:57] oh thx [10:42:21] Yes. Cargo can be migrated to Bucket with [Module:BucketGet](https://bucket.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:BucketGet). But for your use case it is better to rewrite them from scratch considering how cryptic the original templates/modules are. [10:44:50] Will I still be able to hook into the existing Lua already on most pages? [10:44:50] That might save a lot of time [10:45:24] question, should I add commentstreams extension or commentbox extensions to get comments of pages? [10:49:03] Yes. You can implement a compatibility layer by simulating Cargo calls with Bucket. It could make things continue working as-is. [10:49:14] But my recommendation is to blow up https://onestepfromedencd.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Query/Advanced. [10:50:22] The fuck am I looking at????? [10:52:49] -# what were the wiki curators doing???? [10:56:42] ... I really want to just take a hammer to most of the wiki and start swinging [10:59:05] -# I don't need to. But I want to [11:00:03] The more I look, the more fixable some things look though. [11:15:16] [1/3] any way to port or change comments of fandom to comments of pages? [11:15:16] [2/3] Like all comments from fandom safely transferred to miraheze but they sit in way of original articles. I putted extension of comments and thinking of way to turn these comment pages to comments to already existing page [11:15:16] [3/3] anyone knows or had simmilar stuff before? [11:17:29] See https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Moving_from_Fandom [11:29:48] [1/3] already read that [11:29:48] [2/3] all comments transferred, even after 2017 [11:29:49] [3/3] problem is, i want them to become from pages to comments, just like "comments" plugin is. Is there any way to do that? or perhaps a script? [11:34:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525465299543920764/image.png?ex=6a537bc5&is=6a522a45&hm=61623bdf97fc556cbc7bc94d9eeaa748c9fb9b044cbb5a03e82f217f445d8c0e& [11:39:32] ok and how do I launch script? [13:50:32] any way to use stuff like popovers and modals or must that be done with js? [14:34:06] There's Extension:Popups; you can enable it in ManageWiki to see if it works for you [15:27:57] They're typescript scripts, to you need to install something like Bun to run the scripts [15:36:19] [1/3] @melclov [15:36:19] [2/3] A very VERY strong suggestion for you in the meantime. If the wiki on fandom isn't locked: [15:36:19] [3/3] https://meta.weirdgloop.org/w/Leaving_Fandom [15:36:38] Read that, as it has some very important notes to keep when migrating from fandom [15:52:04] [1/2] heya fam, do yall know what miraheze skin makes your wiki's buttons appear in this corner? [15:52:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525530121488826409/image.png?ex=6a53b823&is=6a5266a3&hm=d1fa8d8c49385ec3bcd598c5e9fb27ca926547f088b18a54f2a61eab6dec9e9b& [15:52:39] [1/2] this is probs a better picture, this was from the battle cats website [15:52:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525530267664777407/image.png?ex=6a53b846&is=6a5266c6&hm=130aedd2daa70be99a099dacb96da27d54350563040c8ff086601eff6e6b09a5& [15:54:03] citizen [15:56:06] [1/2] thanks! do you know what's this skin's special page name is to edit the navigation section? [15:56:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1525531134849712340/image.png?ex=6a53b915&is=6a526795&hm=e61c445b739c23710e02663a73b844780bf6c430e1a8a1ce61b2be1199e2b2ea& [15:56:13] (hopefully that makes sense lol) [15:59:04] MediaWiki:Sidebar [16:13:23] Have a page on my wiki that’s been stuck locked due to change propagation for over 24 hours. Can somebody check the job queue? https://www.bluepageswiki.org/wiki/Category:Trustcompany_Bank_branches_in_New_Jersey [16:14:10] Change propawhat [16:31:17] I guess it’s specific to the Semantic MediaWiki extension [17:29:48] i'm not sure that i see it, is it under a different name? [17:31:19] Oh, sorry, I think it's actually named "Previews" in the extensions list [17:32:17] ah, that's not really what i'm looking for. thanks anyway though :) [17:41:12] [1/2] Is there a way to batch upload/update pages to a Miraheze wiki? I have a JSON data file that represents the level layout in the game I'm constructing a wiki for, and I like to write a script that can parse that file to first create and then subsequently update pages for each room in the game. Being able to do this would save a ton of manual labor in setting this all up, and keepin [17:41:12] [2/2] g it up to date as I make changes to that data [17:51:41] sounds like a highly customized job. i'd suggest pwb [17:52:19] [[mw:pywikibot]] [17:52:20]

[17:58:34] but alternatively, if you want to parse the file within the wiki (so you only update the json page each time it updates), lua module is the better choice [18:13:13] 67skibidi [18:52:08] semantic mediawiki is not the best supported extension [18:52:25] most likely the job probably got abandoned [18:52:32] or the mh job queue is worse than I thought [19:05:49] What can be done about an abandoned job? I’ve had successful SMW propagations since then, so I don’t think it’s the queue [19:15:49] [[Phorge]] ticket is probably one route if a #support thread doesn't get the engagement you need [19:15:49]

[21:06:20] <.labster> How long does it take for the ManageWiki cache to expire? [21:27:15] Wdym? They're written to disk [21:28:20] The last time the config was changed is written to Memcached and read every page load, if the time changes the cache is refreshed [21:29:06] It's a really poor system but 🤷 [21:29:56] <.labster, replying to originalauthority> I mean I have a bad configuration saved on two of the mw servers so that one extension is disabled only on those two servers. [21:31:59] <.labster> Reloading https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Bucket:Tab on gets two different possible pages depending on which server responds. [21:40:57] Thx but it got pretty much locked [21:41:09] But at least everybody collectively agreed from us to move to Miraheze [21:41:33] Oh ok [21:42:17] keep in mind you cant advertise your new wiki, you only get 1 fork post across the entire forum [21:46:24]