[00:54:58] If you make sure CodeMirror is enabled in Special:ManageWiki/extensions, you can now go to Special:ManageWiki/settings/codemirror, enable the two options there, and it should be using a more up to date linter (checker) [00:56:31] The new version should be rolling out as default in the next update, but the new option should be an improvement [01:08:40] [1/5] found out i already have the extension on, but i have a problem. new editor features are awesome and the new parser is in fact giving me no errors or warnings now, but turning the options on has made my selections entirely invisible. i acknowledge that this could very well be my own css but i wanted to see if you knew anything about it (? i couldnt find a css class or anything for t [01:08:40] [2/5] he highlight, idk how it works/how its rendered 😔) [01:08:40] [3/5] left is with the options on, right is with them off (just how i had things before) [01:08:41] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526032575095898265/Screen_Recording_2026-07-12_200329.mp4?ex=6a558c16&is=6a543a96&hm=7aaa27401f8dcd5e5f5cd178a9c603391ce8c5d19ea754f368077b15a92642a2& [01:08:41] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526032576005931078/Screen_Recording_2026-07-12_200451.mp4?ex=6a558c16&is=6a543a96&hm=1c5eb43c8df678293f7c4b32af469b0e7b0620636f70e42068f81033f379049b& [01:09:29] (i followed vaguely the same actions in both clips) [01:10:57] i do thank you btw these options are awesome ^^ [01:24:45] Definitely some css oddity, I'd look for anything with the `::selection` element [01:26:57] [1/2] why... [01:26:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526037185416134776/image.png?ex=6a559061&is=6a543ee1&hm=8f923ae688e579a503c0a9061b062a6ef25bb0bb0fde281309ffce5795c25db4& [01:30:09] alright, well, luckily for me, my own !important in common.css takes precedence over this it would seem [01:30:41] seriously though why is it set to transparent with IMPORTANT who do i need to strangle [01:30:49] ty again! everything is well now ^^ [01:31:43] funny c character theyre using for those classes though, never seen nonstandard characters used in class names and the such [01:33:53] huh, `::selection { background:white; }` worked in my own testing without any !important, also have no idea what's up wit that character [01:36:26] [1/3] i wont lie i did enable all of these, not sure which 2 you intended it may be the extra one i added? [01:36:26] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526039569072521266/image.png?ex=6a559299&is=6a544119&hm=b67fcdec76a40ae6a3d48acf4fe16c04c611f9d2ab5882f5a8af1d71520422fe& [01:36:26] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526039569408069642/image.png?ex=6a559299&is=6a544119&hm=a33fbff3487da9638841c605c036ff4513d4e2fada4942049d54b01ef65702e1& [01:57:31] Nah, it shouldn't be the options themselves (all of them are fine), I just think the folks who made the new system didn't account for dark mode [02:09:18] finding out there's a better editor hours after styling the current editor to look like my vscode theme 🥀 [02:30:14] My wiki is showing up on google searches now lets gooooooooo [02:30:37] Also getting the top result for several pages because they are over obscure figures lol [05:46:41] Hi [06:06:28] Bad gateway [06:06:58] can confirm [06:09:59] miraheze eepy? wiki not loading [06:10:12] Mine seems to be back after a brief outage [06:10:39] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526108577255657613/9nWZxgKrLVGJdswnKgLrAoUfY87buHB81-1.jpg?ex=6a55d2de&is=6a54815e&hm=134a5362b8247156ba5419aa720cf6de39169723f9ac6788549c6010206894c3& [06:10:59] https://klipy.com/gifs/jail-locked-up-1 [06:11:09] nope [06:12:50] lmao [06:13:37] tbh, though, this was before 2023 [06:14:31] [1/2] after june 2023, it became this instead [06:14:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526109551982809108/what-could-possibly-go-wrong-v0-hm6cc2xpyn921.png?ex=6a55d3c6&is=6a548246&hm=850989393b273f4863575e28cecbab510136cf51e870555343b70b1aeb7f5a80& [06:15:54] [1/2] this was mine lol [06:15:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526109899421913169/20260713_001523.jpg?ex=6a55d419&is=6a548299&hm=d001cfac8ba947fd3ad0e0395ab5adda5ee6efeba33c066d5b29262138491384& [06:18:35] miraheze back yay [06:35:42] <.labster> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526114883739844629/image.png?ex=6a55d8be&is=6a54873e&hm=19c407ba15985f7e4c049c7b5ca5a32878e78a07cb7b2ad7fe025a6641ff2ade& [06:36:05] <.labster> what is truth, anyway? [06:50:42] Debian 💔💔💔 [07:04:05] Ahh man [07:04:48] It's a good thing I still got updates for the show via my wiki <3 [07:38:17] saving this here for me, ignore [09:02:34] [1/4] Uggggg, this wiki is a mess..... i can't even begin to understand how it originally worked.. [09:02:34] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526151843179139143/Screenshot_20260713_105649_Firefox.jpg?ex=6a55fb29&is=6a54a9a9&hm=a32d42f2e4be57dd6058fea44769a3bc007b43fbd0c93b3ab6317ffa2c6a1019& [09:02:35] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526151843594506261/Screenshot_20260713_105655_Firefox.jpg?ex=6a55fb2a&is=6a54a9aa&hm=c190d9b045aae25d2e33fdca25b15f5015bb8b4bbb34f6d35c8793bbe80161a8& [09:02:35] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526151843959537785/Screenshot_20260713_105700_Firefox.jpg?ex=6a55fb2a&is=6a54a9aa&hm=946a8421f165f1130e08d1e6f641ed281f8df776ee3a80a39dd8bf5d8becc2a2& [09:04:40] The longer I look into it the more I wonder if it's even remotely possible to salvage any of it with my low level understanding... [09:05:25] [1/2] I have both Hide/Show redirect and CSS modifications. :))) [09:05:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526152558400503818/Screenshot_2026-07-13_16.04.11.png?ex=6a55fbd4&is=6a54aa54&hm=b753954ce093bae72595e4b9d76378e2675312fa9a425a9acaaa96dec3037030& [09:05:52] ... i don't know what that means..... [09:06:08] I'm too new to this.. [09:08:09] I don't understand most things here......... [09:10:44] have u considered opening a #support thread for more guidance assistance [09:12:27] But I understand so little that I'm not sure what i can be helped with... [09:13:10] The obsolete Cargo code is Eldritch to me.. [09:13:41] a thread would be useful to navigate those things uninterrupted [09:14:07] But I don't know what to ask... [09:14:35] summarize what has taken place, general title to the effect of ^, lead it with current pressing questions [09:14:47] How can I be helped if I can't finish beginning to understand.. [09:15:08] who knows, but you can express the fact, elaborate on the current sticking points and try to learn [09:15:15] if that is what you want to do [09:15:40] I don't have questions so much as confusion an nonunderstanding [09:16:17] then perhaps you need to step away for a time, and revisit when you are not overwhelmed [09:17:03] [1/2] There's a question: Is Anti-furry banned on Miraheze because it's considered a hate-themed? [09:17:04] [2/2] I'm researching topic restriction policies. [09:17:04] a wiki is much to learn and wiki farms kind of let you get into something that's generally too big for one person to learn on the spot [09:17:12] I'm already focused on it though... Just... at a snail's pace.. [09:17:28] then that is what you build on, expressing it [09:18:07] I would say a wiki with this explicit scope is at best likely to have extreme scrutiny, and if it is designed to promote expressly anti-furry things as its mission then it would classify as hateful [09:18:38] wikis that are explicitly anti pretty much any group of people would likely be unhostable here [09:19:37] except if it is anti-AI, which are clankers, not humans 😉 [09:19:49] I did say group of people [09:19:55] ye [09:20:01] Oh [09:20:05] and do not recognize explicit personhood for ai despite movements to that effect [09:20:06] watch me get scolded in 2050 for saying this [09:20:17] yeah that statement might bite me in a few years too [09:20:19] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [09:21:09] I suppose if its anti billionares the target is soft and squishy and yet so vast that it might be the real exception to the rule there [09:21:56] but once you're in that direction it becomes heavy scrutiny because there is a need for a strong moderating hand to manage potential controversy [09:22:46] also a bit of difference between a wiki that's about how to systemically do without billionares and one that's basically just 'eat the rich', I sympathize with the latter but it might not prove hostable [09:23:33] yeah I agree [09:24:06] but one that is how to do without furries targets a sufficient class of perfectly normal people just trying to live life and fundamentally not harming others that it can only fall under the hateful lens [09:28:12] yeah [09:28:29] at the end of the day, furries are just people who like to cosplay and roleplay as animals for fun [09:29:22] if that's of any use for the research purpose [09:31:31] Hello. I would like to ask you to install the NativeMarkdown (or SimpleMarkdown) extension on my wiki (arasaka.miraheze.org ). I need it to write pages in Markdown format. Thank you. [09:44:04] Same response as https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T15650#312235. There is nothing you can do except waiting. Repeatedly asking for an extension will not get it installed faster. [09:45:30] Ooops I thought you're a different person who was also requesting extensions. Unfortunately the response is the same and there is nothing you can do besides waiting. [10:02:46] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1526166349305352304 ... i made a support thread.. [10:15:49] is there any way to run a function you cannot edit in another script [10:15:52] or am i just fucked [10:22:50] [1/3] Ok to actually more thoroughly explain the problem: [10:22:50] [2/3] On our wiki, we have a series of navigation pages containing a BUNCH of images (which are necessary, unfortunately). To remedy the long page-loading times, one of our Interface Admins designed a system that would allow you to access the different navigation pages without reloading the whole page. [10:22:50] [3/3] This is generally fine, however a specific extension we use (FloatingUI) only fires on page load and therefore breaks with this system. [10:23:04] I was just wondering if it would be possible to force that "page load" function to fire anyway. [10:33:20] how do I use and launch scripts? [10:35:11] Can you move to support because that's going to be a fun problem and get lost in discussion [11:36:47] hi! how would i unlink from a custom domain & is tech able to redirect the custom domain to the .miraheze.org domain [12:11:08] Why can’t I create an account [12:16:36] I got removed for T&S in March [12:30:12] are actual js modules usable with mw.load()? [12:30:18] [1/2] Im getting this error [12:30:18] [2/2] Uncaught SyntaxError: export declarations may only appear at top level of a module [12:31:59] I have a util module I wanna import in one of my other modules. Im using export syntax. [12:40:57] I was removed for T&S in early March [12:41:17] But do not have an account anymore [12:42:04] Tell me why I was removed again [12:42:35] @pskyechology Why was I removed in March [12:48:05] several content and conduct policy violations that were all clearly communicated to them in email correspondence on the first of march of this year [12:49:34] We will not further discuss T&S cases in public channel, please email ts@miraheze.org if you want to discuss/dispute further. [13:08:20] Unrelated to the above, but just a general question: how long does it take T&S violation reports to be actioned? Mainly just concerned that the report didn't go through, so just wanted to check. 😅 [13:12:33] did you send it in by email or via tsportal? [13:13:02] It was a fellow admin who did it, but I assume it was via TSPortal [13:13:35] Should I try sending an email just in case? [13:15:53] [1/7] have you tried ```js [13:15:53] [2/7] mw.loader.load([ [13:15:53] [3/7] "ext.floatingUI.init.styles", [13:15:54] [4/7] "ext.floatingUI", [13:15:54] [5/7] "ext.floatingUI.lib", [13:15:54] [6/7] ]) [13:15:54] [7/7] ```or `mw.hook('wikipage.content').fire()` [13:16:31] feel free to DM me what it was about and I can look it up [13:16:36] likely was actioned already [13:17:02] heya, I have made small script with claude turning every single discussion thread from fandom which are in miraheze as diffrent pages, to one discussion page. However. After first page is done it doesn't goes next. Something about token refreshment and clientlogin [13:17:30] also due to that I can't delete old discussion pages [13:18:20] does help [13:18:24] Thanks! I've DM'd. Fairly sure it wasn't actioned yet, which is why I asked... [13:18:34] See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login [13:18:52] oh no [13:19:00] we don't use fandom api [13:19:09] we basically use whatever uploaded from xml [13:19:17] cuz fandom wiki got closed [13:19:33] and we try to organize discussions and stuff cuz they turned to different pages [13:19:41] oh right the pre-UCP discussions [13:19:52] idk what to do with them [13:20:34] I'm assuming whatever you used to edit pages does not work well. Ask Claude to use pywikibot or use the API properly. [13:21:03] Well it does work but for one page, it fails to do any after [13:21:20] thx, I'll try changing system from botpassword to OAth [13:24:15] Potentially dumb question. The comic my wiki covers has a lot of political commentary and humor and so I have articles for current figures in politics and media. Should I have some sort of disclaimer that it’s just a fictional representation and not a factual biography? [13:31:00] This stops the FloatingUI description from appearing without hovering over, (sets ext-floatingui-content to display none) but doesn't let you hover over it. [13:33:13] [1/2] For context, TS reports via the portal are cleared weekly in most cases by myself or other responders. Reporters are not notified of the outcome by design. [13:33:13] [2/2] Depending on the report made and provided context, we may not always elect to take action in all cases. [13:35:53] If this sets the content to `display:none`, why not just use css to change it back to what it was before? [13:37:13] It doesn't work properly, it would appear as think strings of text that confined to the styling of everything around it. [13:37:29] BotPassword vs OAuth is probably the least consequential change to make here... But it could make a difference I guess [13:41:10] Ah, yes, I know we aren't notified about outcome, but this case was pretty clear cut and clearly hadn't been actioned, which is why I asked, haha. It's been taken care of now, though, so thank you! [13:41:31] I'll keep the one week timeframe in mind for the future! [13:47:58] I found, possibly, the dumbest fix ever. [13:48:07] I kinda just... [13:48:15] copied the entire javascript into a function... [13:48:34] And then called that function when the page load initialises.. [13:53:37] It's VERY sloppy but. Like. It works? [18:31:25] somebody messaged my email over miraheze how do i do that too? [18:40:26] Email to Email is disabled on Miraheze. [18:40:37] Was it a member of tech/steward/etc? [18:40:41] @lole5309, what do you mean? [[Special:EmailUser]] is disabled. Are you sure your e-mail isn't mentioned elsewhere? [18:43:19] it was like a year ago and didnt directly message my mail but ended up there [18:43:42] id like to message someone like that [18:43:55] i dont think so [18:44:03] was it disabled in the last year? [18:44:05] Yes [18:44:12] i see [18:44:13] hrm, okay. Not sure when [[Special:EmailUser]] was disabled, could've been since then [18:44:32] or someone found your e-mail on some other publicly available source [18:44:45] nah it was through miraheze [18:44:51] ah [18:45:14] any other way to non publicly message someone? [18:46:14] not as far as I'm aware, though there may be some extensions that allow non-public messaging to other users (other than stewards / T&S, etc.) [18:47:18] We don't allow private messaging on Miraheze because of the Online Safety Bill et al. [18:47:19] but those features have likely been disabled already, too, to avoid being classified as a social network [18:47:24] Correct. [18:47:38] Private messages from someone other than an NDA-clad volunteer should not be possible [18:47:50] thank the gubbermint [18:48:07] i love the direction of the net [18:48:08] Yuuup. It sucks, but that's the way the tides are moving. 🙁 [18:48:52] did wikipedia cave too? [18:48:54] 💯 [18:49:03] doesn't look like it [18:49:26] but they also have a small-ish army of paid staff, including in-house counsel and compliance teams [18:49:29] Oh, looks like the changes went into effect nearly a year ago exactly [18:49:38] July 27ish of last year [18:49:48] thanks, NotAracham for that :) [18:50:22] and 100 mil of funds in their ngo [18:50:39] yep [18:50:39] It also prevents us from having to do ID checks, which is a hill most in the community are willing to put up quite the fight about. [18:51:02] Wikimedia are willing to go to court over it [18:51:05] (It being the removal of private messaging, as it gets us out of the class of service covered by most of these bills) [18:51:17] Good point, too, RhinosF1 [18:51:34] and have outright said they wouldn't comply with the Online Safety Act if they were designated a category one service [18:51:44] ah [18:52:02] If anyone wants to donate enough money to fund the legal bill, we can consider it too [18:53:26] our best hope might be Wikimedia Foundation, backed by the ACLU and/or EFF, going to court and getting parts of the bill quashed, which is a definite possibilit [18:53:34] s/possibilt/possibility [18:53:45] does that not still work? [18:53:53] oh that was a MirahezeBots feature :( [18:53:57] RIP MirahezeBots [18:54:06] Wikimedia have already sued the UK government once over OSA [18:54:16] And been told them suing the government was premature [18:54:28] They were told in essence 'too early, come back when it's an actual problem' [18:54:32] They are fighting well enough against OSA without the EFF's help [18:54:34] ah, what about U.S. government? [18:54:56] I have no idea what the US government have to do with this problem [18:54:56] Problem there is it's state-specific and incredibly patchwork [18:55:09] If you're referring to online safety laws [18:55:09] It's Australia and the UK that are being the most painful [18:55:33] yeah, I'm not sure why WikiTide Foundation would need to comply with a UK law, though, RhinosF1 [18:55:45] what matters is the patchwork of state laws, I think [18:56:02] Service providers are covered entities in int'l jurisdictions usually depending on quantity of local traffic [18:56:14] We do hit that threshold for the UK, but skated by by removing private messaging [18:56:24] dmehus: service providers are covered based on the services we provide to users in that country [18:56:31] We have to comply with local laws to a point [18:56:39] And we have volunteers that could face consequences too [18:56:40] Is moving our servers outside the UK not an option? [18:56:49]