[01:42:12] I have a question, the "member" group is needed to access the personal Wiki, you need to add people there here "Special:UserRights"? [01:44:17] [1/2] Will someone help me in this life or not?πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ [01:44:18] [2/2] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T15653 [01:54:20] User needs to visit the wiki first, then add member in Special:UserRights [03:42:49] Is it possible to do the same for groups? [03:44:03] By the way, what kind of pages doesn't he do CSS on? And is there any way to make it anyway? [03:55:31] Login/Preferences. No [04:33:35] +Gadgets [04:33:48] not sure about full list tho [04:34:29] oh, +CreateAccount [04:37:27] +BotPasswords. tbh i now wonder if there's a full list of restricted pages [09:16:01] [1/2] any way to force the TOC to be not expanded on page open (like this) [09:16:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526880002619211796/image.png?ex=6a58a150&is=6a574fd0&hm=12ac8e586b1b84481ba18900dc95b491e92712df2eae688e40a3c48dfedd8fb0& [09:16:15] i got a toc thats a little too long [09:24:17] how do I make specific or all files in a private Wiki accessible to everyone without restrictions? [09:46:39] <.labster, replying to zombie_daniil> Maybe this config setting is what you want? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgWhitelistRead I have a wiki using the other variable, $wgWhitelistReadRegexp, but I had to make a pull request on the code to get that one through. For all pages, you can just assign the `read` userright to everyone. [09:52:06] [1/2] Any idea what I am missing on my wiki for this to show up? [09:52:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526889084599930910/image.png?ex=6a58a9c5&is=6a575845&hm=918605be144007d268ac0a3c1272951013f529a29f9c56a385452d5d2315d86d& [09:52:32] <.labster> Extension:Arrays ? [09:55:10] but I realized that in a private Wiki, I need files or a specific file, for example, a specific photo, to be accessible by link to everyone, including anonymous ones. [09:57:14] <.labster> Add that file to the whitelist in ManageWiki, try seeing if the link works in private browsing mode. [10:19:36] [1/2] Hi does anyone knows if there a flag icon for Pahlavi Iran and Old Afghanistan Flag? [10:19:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526896005499457626/image.png?ex=6a58b038&is=6a575eb8&hm=48680db87f88e9f5fb57419b89caca49fb7b3e63e27e6a15d5248173f9172690& [10:31:03] Could anyone help me out? I'm trying to redirect users from my old domain to the new one using CF rules but it doesn't seem to work [10:31:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526898933396148245/image.png?ex=6a58b2f2&is=6a576172&hm=06c51a7430030a2aaa6fe7c09afdd5257a8156b1fdcb6911f5557288c71aaea1& [10:50:32] hello! [11:03:07] how do I make specific or all files in a private Wiki accessible to everyone without restrictions? [11:03:49] I just can't make files in a private wiki like pages, specific files accessible to everyone by link [11:04:02] . [11:04:03] ur sure this has to be done? [11:04:49] i thought miraheze can handle all redirects for you [11:05:52] No, it doesn't work. [11:06:13] Or am I doing something wrong? [11:13:19] since when did it become by DNS manager [11:13:31] anyway i got it done [11:13:46] nice [11:14:11] basically if someone goes to hybridcafe.wiki/wiki/Classes it goes to cafe.miraheze.org/wiki/Classes [11:25:43] Please help meπŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™ [11:25:43] @zombie_daniil Too many emojis. [11:26:18] Please help me!πŸ™ [11:26:35] Please help me!πŸ™ [11:33:39] [1/3] Idk if this works for cross-domain redirects. [11:33:39] [2/3] Alternatively, ask how utgwiki did it. [11:33:40] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526914639370387556/image.png?ex=6a58c192&is=6a577012&hm=fcf35d95068bebfffa0e44ea5e6e16bf5424c8f8b40aa44a2ae35658801a98cc& [11:51:14] support thread but probably phorge, the way files are configured is for access privacy. Good for private wikis but doesn't make miraheze useful as a file host (which its not for anyway but I digress). I'm not sure if you can bypass that in a normal way aside from another host altogether for the files, but maybe tech will have an insight on the matter [11:52:50] I got this working, i just need to configure managewiki and thats broken [12:33:19] Please help me!πŸ™ [12:34:02] please review my comment [12:35:22] even then, patience will be required [12:36:14] I didn't understand. I need to make a private wiki where specific files can be read by other anonymous people, this is necessary because I have a private wiki, but some articles are open to everyone, I also want it to be with files [12:36:38] To be fair, we are using a version of Citizen from February, release 3.13.0. So things like this are bound to happen. [12:37:47] oh πŸ’€ [12:39:39] [1/2] TBH this seems like a poor use of tech's time. The wiki/user has already generated several long support questions in the past 2 days. [12:39:39] [2/2] Developing a solution to accommodate a single wiki/user could be done if someone is interested but is otherwise very low-priority. [12:40:21] I think the option to make files selectively or in general open on a private wiki would be a useful thing to have, albeit not as top priority at all [12:40:31] otherwise I gather that the answer to their inquiry is basically no not possible [12:41:54] IIRC images on private wikis must go through img_auth.php. It might be tweakable with a flag if there's enough interest. [12:43:03] then a phorge thing and see how it goes seems to be it [12:43:17] I have a terrible record starting stuff like that but can tentatively put it on my list since not sure who else might [12:43:28] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T15192 😒 [12:43:52] how does one do a security review [12:44:08] im rlly curious. do u just look in a repo and look for typos or something [12:46:08] I realized that skin didn't get updated for months [12:46:21] Going through the code for patterns that can lead to security issues such as `Html::rawElement` and ensuring that they don't pose any problems. [12:46:38] pinch it till it breaks [12:47:00] Redmin, Random, Claire, and CA are the only people who are doing it AFAIK. [12:47:24] Rhinos as well? I don't remember seeing him do extension sec reviews though. [12:49:39] Redmin, Claire, and CA are not active right now, so Random is probably the only person who can do it. [12:50:31] This probably won't be done till next year. [12:51:02] Or until the commit of Citizen we're using breaks. [12:52:39] I mean, Star Citizen Wiki really shot themselves in the foot by utilising Gen AI to write and change their skin, because of the amount of code they changed in such a short time, we don't know what is and isn't written reliably. [12:55:17] [1/2] Becoming a sec reviewer usually requires a track record of finding vulnerabilities in existing extensions. [12:55:17] [2/2] Though TBH this is getting a lot easier nowadays with LLMs which is a bit worrying because it doesn't require deep understanding of how things work. [12:58:23] your directly attributing the security reviews time to alistairs usage of claude? [12:58:47] any evidence for the claim? [12:58:55] specifically the amount of changes that were done [12:58:56] Well, that and as Petra said, there's only one active Security Reviewer. [12:59:47] To be fair. The fact that there were substantial changes made can be readily checked. [12:59:47] big changes, few volunteers, highish bar = slow output [13:03:09] I seem to remember this being possible on the removed edm wiki but I now can't find any proof of that wiki ever existing [13:07:12] [1/5] appears to just be ```json [13:07:13] [2/5] "wgWhitelistReadRegexp": [ [13:07:13] [3/5] "/.*/" [13:07:13] [4/5] ], [13:07:14] [5/5] ``` [13:08:32] That actually looks quite clever (assuming I'm reading it correctly). [13:43:20] [1/2] Yep, that was is. Just gotta find this one [13:43:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526947275060941031/image.png?ex=6a58dff7&is=6a578e77&hm=235af162bfb2aee7d3c561b9e88763f6f63785b873b78c66ab0d6213d284aa9e& [13:51:59] that looks like regex stuff which isn't supported on Miraheze. Perhaps [[dev:module:String]] could be a suitable replacement [13:52:00] [14:15:39] <90gq29> is there any list of recent changes to miraheze? like new useful extensions or settings that one can enable? [14:16:50] i think theyll announce it in #announcements [14:16:52] theyve done so b4 [14:25:59] [[Miraheze Monthly]] and minor announcements yeah [14:26:05] [14:44:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526962565534716075/image.png?ex=6a58ee35&is=6a579cb5&hm=7b012d3268f3f70c2005debd9756eb50b2b4d46d5541e55c61a5c7bca2e83e7f& [14:44:11] I thank you with all the blood in my vessel [14:44:21] :Hephi_pray: :jaz_pray: :otter_pray: :prayge: :pray: [14:45:01] Had to edit my pages a bit, but it works [14:45:28] . [14:48:48] its either you make everything accessible to everyone or not [14:58:40] [1/2] I want to do this [14:58:40] [2/2] The wiki will be private, but individual pages will be available, and I want individual files to be available to everyone too. [15:03:16] i don't think that's possible [15:04:01] There is a variable wgWhitelistRead, but I recon that is lockecdd behind something. [15:05:05] It is not, any crat can change it [15:05:12] But it will not help with making files public [15:10:59] Crat? [15:11:09] Bureaucrat [15:11:17] Highest role for individual wikis [15:12:07] They're the user group that has the ability to change settings, modify permissions, and grant/remove groups like admin [15:12:22] To be entirely honest, I use 'crat because I forget how to spell the full thing [15:13:10] u had to type bureaucracy so many times for an unrelated project that jt became second nature [15:13:11] [1/2] bureau- [15:13:11] [2/2] i remember it because it sounds like the noise neko arc makes [15:13:30] I try to sound it our [15:13:31] t [15:13:36] without looking [15:13:41] bureacrat [15:14:02] yay got it [15:14:19] byur-ee-aa-you-crat [15:14:34] idk how it's pronounced [15:14:44] Oh I thought it was an abbreviation [15:15:05] https://www.howtopronounce.com/bureaucrat [15:15:12] crat is [15:15:22] Something like content ratification, administrative tentative [15:15:27] oh [15:15:39] that would be an acroymn [15:15:43] which [15:15:47] ENTIRELY valid [15:15:48] we have [15:15:48] Aka I don't bloody know [15:15:51] a LOT of those [15:16:19] GIrl [15:16:43] is it not bur-you-crat [15:17:28] i say it with a bit of a yu sound at the start [15:17:53] b-yur-uh-crat [15:17:59] bee-crat; bee-see :ThinkingHardMH: [15:18:19] b-euro-crat ? [15:18:31] euro pronounced like the euro πŸ’Ά [15:19:02] ...yeah that's probably a bettey way to write it [15:19:12] i pronounce it something like `bjΙšΛˆΙ™krΓ¦t` but kai's sound right too [15:19:31] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WTF%3F_OMG!_TMD_TLA._ARG! [15:19:42] <90gq29> [1/2] is there a way to get rid of category:categoryname and just keep categoryname in search breadcrumbs ? [15:19:42] <90gq29> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526971527898202182/5qr2rd9.png?ex=6a58f68e&is=6a57a50e&hm=d60f49469c6c04407879342eeb8449e4c6a4e0e529240aa24154344c80026b2d& [15:19:45] i pronounce it with its translation in my language [15:20:30] google I'm not giviing you home addreess [15:37:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1526976083361136780/HNPwkfiasAAjJvn.png?ex=6a58facc&is=6a57a94c&hm=63133b14614a84624331a7dc7d066994f54866d9cc96138100d3bd10bef1b8fd& [15:37:56] it's not like they don't have it already [15:41:05] [1/2] Sorry for the question – I’ve been given access to a wiki. It seems that nobody has access to Cargo or Semantic MediaWiki. [15:41:05] [2/2] Could it be that nobody has the permissions, or that nobody can enable them? [15:44:39] Cargo and SMW are both restricted [15:44:54] Which means they can only be enabled or disabled by global staff [15:45:27] SMW is a mess and falling apart and will not be approved outside of extreamly exceptional circumstances for migrating wikis [15:46:01] Cargo is also not in the best shape and while not exploded like SMW is also not encoraged and support may be dropped in the future. [15:46:20] except it does help on https://removededm.com [15:47:02] <90gq29, replying to pixldev> exploded? [15:47:03] <90gq29> what happened [15:47:17] <90gq29> just neglected by maintainers or? [15:47:19] bureaucrat = kinda like burrow-crat for me [15:47:46] smw was neglected by maintainers for years, cargo's maintainer is uh... _controversial_ [15:47:51] If you're looking to use structured data on your wiki we recommend Bucket [15:47:51] <90gq29, replying to thewwrnerdguy> huh [15:47:54] <90gq29> like a pedo or sum? [15:47:58] oh no [15:48:04] he's not a bad person [15:48:13] <90gq29> whats controversial about him then [15:48:28] I'm considering my words here [15:48:43] <90gq29> politics? [15:48:46] No [15:48:49] His actual work [15:48:55] as in code quality and security [15:49:00] <90gq29> is shit? [15:49:01] not character [15:49:12] I mean I'm not saying that [15:49:19] <90gq29> but you're not saying it isnt shit [15:49:43] Yaron is behind a lot of very impressive and very cool MediaWiki extensions and has been a large contributor to the ecosystem [15:49:55] It's just that security is not one of those contributions! [15:52:33] rip [15:56:03] [1/3] Thank you very much for your prompt reply. [15:56:04] [2/3] Is there an alternative way to access data and display it quickly and easily, without having to maintain the same data in multiple places? [15:56:04] [3/3] Sorry, I’m new to this. My aim is to maintain data in one place and be able to display it anywhere – whether in a table, on a page or wherever. I’ve always been told that this is no problem with Carge or SMW. [15:57:10] No worries [15:57:13] And yes we do have a guide [15:57:26] [[Help:Structured data]] if I remember the link [15:57:27] [15:57:43] I do actually [16:06:53] heh [17:26:25] I set the logo/icon using vector 2022 skin and it appears as I expect, but doesn't appear to logged out users, it seems. It's been over 48 hours. Do you know what needs to be done? The same class attributes are present in both casea wm-logo. [17:34:51] could just be cache. image cache is just infamously slow [17:40:40] 48 hours? [17:41:06] browser cache is disabled [17:41:20] not browser cache, server-side cache [17:42:09] ok. 48 hours seems pretty long. [17:46:17] yeah, that's why it's infamously slow. otherwise, i can't think of any reason why it'd display for you but not logged out users. to my knowledge, there's no setting for the icon to selectively display, so the only thing i can think of is cache [17:46:54] there's been similar questions before iirc and it's nearly always been cache in those cases [18:56:11] Hello, how can i add custom css when i dont have access to page files? [18:57:11] not like i would like to request it but how does miraheze interface map to mediawiki files? [18:57:30] By page files, do you mean the MediaWiki: pages? [19:00:06] [1/7] maybe? like in skin guide they recomend to fork example skin which i cant just put to the wiki with ftp client and later to run [19:00:06] [2/7] ```sh [19:00:07] [3/7] cd mediawiki/skins [19:00:07] [4/7] npm install mediawiki-skins-cli [19:00:07] [5/7] npx create-mw-skin SkinName [19:00:08] [6/7] cd SkinName [19:00:08] [7/7] ``` [19:00:34] Yeah, files aren't accessible at al [19:00:37] i just want to make text white while main background is black [19:00:45] You can apply custom CSS through on wiki pages [19:00:48] and style more later [19:00:52] [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] [19:00:53] [19:01:27] Can i still use templates bc so far im doubting design choices etc [19:02:25] and is that Common.css overwritem when i make page with that name or ...? [19:04:24] may be very stupid question but is bureaucrat always a bureaucrat or you could change his name? We had once long moment from our community where on each platform local admins/bureaucrats/owners were called viceroys [19:16:50] Sorry for the delay. I actually started looking into it back in late May but had to stop due to IRL work. Nevertheless, I have picked it up again as of last week and should have the review posted by this Saturday. [19:17:22] Ah, fair enough. [19:17:26] Hope you're doing alright Redmin! [19:28:45] Yes, you would need to create a page MediaWiki:Group-bureaucrat and have the content be the new name [19:46:04] Where can I source someone to build my wiki out? [19:46:25] Paid of course [19:48:18] try the professional services channel on the mediawiki server [19:48:22] There's a professional services channel in the mediawiki server [19:48:28] snap @pskyechology [19:48:32] jinxx [19:48:36] Thank u [19:48:38] ❀️ [19:53:07] bucket was made as a way to more accessibly do this; cargo is offered but would only be recommended if it is capable of something bucket is not, and both bucket and SMW are kind of high maintenence/messy from a background operation perspective [19:53:24] with smw as an example part of why it was restricted is because enabling it could result in a mess that would require a tech to clean up [19:53:43] one that tech is ill-equipped to handle, mind you [19:53:43] previously it required tech intervention to enable in the first place but its not quite that now [19:54:07] indeed, tech is overstretched and would rather focus on new cool things than babysitting problematic extensions [20:32:18] [1/2] we had cirrus enabled some time ago, it fails to find anything πŸ™ˆ that normal? πŸ˜„ [20:32:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1527050198004666588/image.png?ex=6a593fd2&is=6a57ee52&hm=90e37b143db2f834e867d30a8eee1ba6655012ae85987135305d5a4ea8c12b9c& [20:58:57] try now [21:03:19] what sorcery is this, you tweaked some localsettings.php or something? [21:03:23] are you a wizard? [21:04:12] a witch but yeah [21:04:21] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/808001911868489748/1527056836765941850 [21:04:36] sanitizer eats them, they're not supported [21:04:46] cant remember if any silly extensions enable them [21:05:48] my bad, thanks! [21:48:16] Is there a common strategy for testing css changes without making them live? [21:53:28] I can't run a version of miraheze locally, right? [21:54:49] you could but it would suck I expect, lot to manage [21:54:56] preview in userspace css for best results [21:55:23] it will be instant and if you want to try on other pages you can save as well, but often previewing will get what you might want [21:55:36] this will be greatly faster than waiting for wiki-wide css to do its thing [22:25:14] By preview in user space, do you mean user stylesheet? [22:34:40] common.css at your username space level is a thing [22:35:16] User:YourNameHere/common.css -> add css there, save and refresh [22:36:38] Oh... but I'm hoping to test styles for logged out users [22:36:38] can also add common.js similarily to test those in there [22:37:27] Right now the issue is that logo/icon only appears for logged in user [22:38:06] well you can always just create some javascript code that will apply all the css for you to test locally via console as logged out user [22:57:59] I use the extension Stylus [23:00:30] inspect element, browser extensions like Jane said, use user css, add `?debug=2` to the end of the url to see the latest version of site css [23:01:10] if you go to Special:RecentChanges does it appear normally? this sounds like HTML caching [23:19:30] [1/11] It was 48 hours since the change. Using CSS, e.g.: [23:19:31] [2/11] .mw-logo::before { [23:19:31] [3/11] content: url('...'); [23:19:31] [4/11] display: block; [23:19:32] [5/11] margin-right: 10px; [23:19:32] [6/11] width: 50px; [23:19:32] [7/11] height: 50px; [23:19:33] [8/11] } [23:19:33] [9/11] Shows the logo for both logged in and logged out users, using debug=2 [23:19:33] [10/11] If I set the logo in settings, an img element is added, for logged in users only. [23:19:34] [11/11] I had to change back to using settings instead of css, and with debug=2 there is no logo for logged out users. [23:20:53] what wiki is this? You may need to #verify to send links [23:34:46] https://simounfans.miraheze.org/wiki/SimounFans [23:49:12] [1/2] it does appear for me, without being logged in [23:49:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1527099747922477306/image.png?ex=6a596df8&is=6a581c78&hm=13ae61cce0a397944def6cbe242acba43a869ba01c2fa4882d136ace5fa7173c&