[00:02:58] how do i make the wiki news force align to left i've been trying to put it there for like a day lol also i'd want to put the scroll bar on the right [[mh:arsenal:User:Nukesme/Sandbox]] [00:02:59] [00:03:01] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1530727102649995264/obraz.png?ex=6a66a034&is=6a654eb4&hm=0f814a1f3988219bd56498cfd918b0e382b11776ade43fa6893a56e51a6e0c48& [00:03:16] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1530727165656699083/obraz.png?ex=6a66a043&is=6a654ec3&hm=a8a1c4769a73b6a7271a39f774cb4623914843842c38f53deb33753eb8118908& [00:04:33] you currently have ` align-items: center;` on the flex container, if you remove that I think you'll be fine [00:04:41] thanks [11:35:38] what mistakes do you think new wikis make too much with their main pages? [11:40:47] Not really with pages themselves but I think a big mistake a lot of newer wiki founders make is they focus too much on aesthetics, and get burnt out/frustrated, instead of focusing on building the wiki contents up. [11:53:16] Do you ever feel that the new founders try use too complex templates or add-ons too quickly [11:56:29] Yeah, I mean, like 1/4th the support threads are about Wikipedia templates not working. [12:01:35] And to be frank the maintenance for Wikipedia style infoboxes, even the simpler ones on dev wiki, are too annoying for me to justify using them. [12:02:18] At this point I may have to make some basic under construction box or simlar temples [12:25:46] Hello guys! [12:31:33] ๐Ÿ‘‹ [12:31:45] Hi!!! [12:36:26] Do you think some very basic, box templates would be handy [12:59:23] in my case I just focus on getting visuals into a state where Iโ€™m at least happy to look at them while editing, and then once stuff is ready I polish it up later [12:59:57] (also getting good modules/templates set up first so it doesnโ€™t bite me in the ass later) [13:11:14] Yeah building templates is a really essential part of early wiki making imo [13:22:43] i think the needs of templates are born during editing [13:23:05] if you don't actually edit an article you wouldn't know what templates you really need [13:23:42] Hmmm [13:23:49] Not sure on how templates work [13:26:42] and sometimes you realized something should be a template bc you'd typed if again and again [13:33:15] Well yeah, though when you're moving a wiki and trying to fix `very poor technical decisions` it's definitely good to get templates done first [13:36:52] Yeahhh [13:37:42] The thing my wiki covers has a lot of things with really long names and then I canโ€™t even use the full name for grammar reasons so I had to make a template just to embed them. [13:42:37] or a hotkey/macro [13:43:42] If you use subst itโ€™s really not that bad [13:44:19] the ambox or asbox temate covers that, btw [13:44:27] Iโ€™m not going to type Justice Department (Mega City Two)|Justice Department every time [13:45:06] [1/2] my mind right bow: [13:45:07] [2/2] ...SPD Emergency! โŒš [13:46:07] No, even simplar [13:46:19] ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [13:47:40] why not simply omit everything right to the `|` [13:48:06] when you submit `[[a (b)|]]` it converts to `[[a (b)|a]]` automatically [13:48:08] https://klipy.com/gifs/sentai-power-rangers [13:48:13] Love SPD [13:48:51] i choose the fix the things after importing them [13:48:53] Huh never knew about that [13:50:34] tbh i almost rewrote a navbox after importing a wiki [13:55:07] {{Gallery}}, [[File]], and one of the many infoboxes (including the {{Luabox}} if i spelled it correctly) [13:55:08] [13:55:08] [1/2] [13:55:09] [2/2] [13:55:38] *File's just syntax, btw [13:57:55] [1/2] *and those templates are probably on the dev wiki, btw ๐Ÿค” [13:57:55] [2/2] {{dev:Gallery}}, {{dev:Luabox}} [13:58:11] [1/2] [13:58:11] [2/2] Not the correct result? Use `!wiki !dev page Gallery` for a direct link or `!wiki !dev search Gallery` for a list of all hits. [14:02:44] am i the only one who rarely ever shares those fixes (or doc additions) with the source page? ๐Ÿค” [14:03:23] wdym by sharing with the source page [14:03:41] the page imported from [14:03:49] adding the changes there [14:04:22] why? we moved out of there and it's based on different infra [14:04:32] i fix them bc some aren't working properly on miraheze [14:04:46] i'm referring mostly to meta and dev, btw [14:05:16] [1/2] oh. i was talking about a moved wiki [14:05:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1530939063455191050/image.png?ex=6a67659c&is=6a66141c&hm=9cece89ed2e699fcf5419af414b4cc122546a43a39cd9683c009390e0584c820& [14:05:22] ah [14:09:12] so you mean, you often find things imported from dev need fixing, and only fix them locally only? [14:18:43] Tyvm! [15:41:13] Thank you very much? 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[16:01:58] wow, Discord spammer who thought they'd see if the server granted `@everyone` pings, to well, everyone... ๐Ÿคญ [16:03:11] it moreso that its a bot and not an actual human [16:28:52] [1/2] is it just me or does .webp not suck ass here (relative to fandom) [16:28:52] [2/2] I swear fandom BUTCHERS the quality of .webp's normally [16:33:30] We use [Cloudflare Polish](https://developers.cloudflare.com/images/polish/) but set it to lossless. [16:34:06] awesome [16:34:20] I'm free from fandom's dogshit webp's and can actually use that format [16:35:55] fandom makes the images render as webp so that they could slightly make up for the extra time it takes to load all the ads and bloat ๐Ÿ˜‚ [16:39:25] jxl when? ๐Ÿ‘€ [16:54:57] GOD I forgot how good webp is when you can actually use it [16:55:07] 1.54 mb -> 76kb for literally zero noticeable quality loss at all, drool [17:18:26] [1/2] I was wanted to update my file description template and was wondering if there a way I can make the parameters only appear when called upon like a infobox? [17:18:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1530987673433538690/image.png?ex=6a6792e1&is=6a664161&hm=f6b89753c81665b59866bc3f95b47268d099a4decb98262c57c7fcec3c60f1a0& [17:36:34] if clauses [17:36:56] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##if [17:39:01] basically `{{#if | {{{Name}}} | [the code you want displayed] }}` [17:39:42] So if {{{Name}}} is filled in, it'll display the code in the second parameter [17:40:05] You can add a third parameter for an else clause, if you want it to display something different if you don't have {{{Name}}} filled, if that makes sense [17:40:27] More like `{{#if:{{{1|}}}|You entered text in variable 1|There is no text in variable 1}}` [17:41:05] oh you're right, it's a colon and not a parameter, oops, fixed [17:41:23] LMAO [17:41:53] truly a benefit for your sites to load quicker, for those who have dogshit wifi [17:42:21] also i think most softwares already started supporting webps??? [17:44:01] Are there any issue when doing this with a table? [17:58:47] <.labster, replying to questioningespecialy> JPEG XL my beloved, why must I wait for you? [18:03:02] you need to replace `\` in table grammar with `{{!}}` [18:03:53] [1/2] basically something like this [18:03:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1530999113456292050/image.png?ex=6a679d89&is=6a664c09&hm=8904e55b55ec9550b4eb4a856272ba3b8f83ded54dc2facdfa72fffcf5923a3c& [18:04:12] is there a way to make the search bar not suck and be more like fandom's (not a total bitch about case sensitivity) [18:04:22] ask to turn on Cirrus Search [18:04:30] alr will do later [18:04:33] https://tenor.com/view/meowl-owl-cat-owlcat-spring-excited-gif-9638611985122140704 [18:04:54] [[SR/RC]] [18:05:00] [18:33:59] [1/2] Something like this? [18:34:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531006687882776749/image.png?ex=6a67a497&is=6a665317&hm=a9f93f3cbcfb44eb0b671e73f2093f87f0dc419edc43115065adc560a31ce6b2& [18:37:53] you can create a template sandbox to test if you're afraid affecting too many existing pages [19:17:29] I just made an account, and I have never really touched Miraheze until I got into Mock governments, and I tried to make an account, but my IP address has banned me from making an account. Being genuinely honest, this is my first time making a wiki account here. [19:18:58] @gsweck: e-mail stewards{{@}}miraheze.org along with a copy of the error message you're getting (or attach a screenshot) [19:21:21] isn't it cvt(at)miraheze? [19:21:26] it should say in the ban message [19:21:49] probably got accidentally caught in a widespread IP ban meant to catch bots [19:22:09] @emiliers: yeah it says that, but stewards have all signed NDAs and may have more details GAs aren't able to provide [19:22:50] I suppose I remove the brackets? [19:22:53] technically, it is the stewards that review appeals (if that's the case here; no idea if it is). They can refer it to applicable channels like Tech Team or T&S as the case may be, too [19:23:00] ๐Ÿค” I just assumed it's better to email whoever it says to email in the message? From the sounds of things, stewards appear swamped, so I assume it'd be easier to get an answer from cvt [19:23:03] @gsweck: correct [19:23:14] Thanks [19:23:59] @emiliers: in a practical sense, cvt@ consists of mainly stewards, so it would most likely be a steward answering anyway [19:24:38] @gsweck: np :) [19:25:41] I suppose I gotta give you my IP as well in the email? ๐Ÿ˜ญ [19:28:04] @gsweck: no [19:28:09] just send it to stewards [19:28:16] they'll review it [19:28:25] Either alias works, but this is an extremely normal problem [19:29:27] There's actually an account creation form for this exact purpose, but I'm having trouble finding it [19:30:20] [1/4] CVT alias is preferable as there's more people to answer, but what you need is: [19:30:20] [2/4] * Describe the issue (impacted by global IP block when trying to create an account [19:30:20] [3/4] * Provide the username you'd like to have [19:30:21] [4/4] * Provide the email address we should attach to your account [19:30:35] @notaracham: ah, right. wasn't sure the exact cause of the problem, if it was a shared IP of a previously blocked/locked user or the account creation error so just thought I'd have them send it to stewards [19:30:56] Yeah, this is a fresh account creation vs an existing blocked account [19:31:07] do we have a help page with example screenshots with the account issue? [19:31:17] Probably, but my search-fu is failing me [19:31:21] just so I ca bring myself up to speed [19:31:27] will look [19:33:32] There's some special page for it that's included in the error message, I think [19:33:40] ah [19:33:52] @MirahezeRelay, sent the email to stewards{{@}}miraheze.org with the brackets removed ๐Ÿ‘ [19:33:53] [19:35:29] I replied, please provide the requested info [19:36:42] @gsweck: ^ via e-mail reply, not here (for clarity) [19:37:00] Understood lol, I'm working on it loll [19:37:09] sounds good, no worries :) [19:37:17] All good. I found a way to review my egregious old blocks, as 6 years is waaay too long [19:37:33] that's good [19:37:46] yeah I found rangeblock Agent blocked for 1 decade [19:38:00] I never used to do them more than 2-3 years for that reason [19:38:03] The joys of starting out with no official guidance. ๐Ÿ™ƒ That sort of thing should only be reserved for proxies [19:38:16] Providers do change their leases from time to time [19:38:22] yeah [19:38:26] Ah well, at least we're starting to make some headway of having actual documentation [19:38:34] yep :) [19:38:39] *onboarding docs for new volunteers [19:38:54] the MW Specialist procedurees in particular [19:39:04] those have improved dramatically in recent years [19:39:37] well Infra Specialist procedures as well [19:39:57] but also Raidarr's volunteer documentation and wiki reviewer procedures [19:52:01] [1/2] gonna test this out with my {{dev:LuaInfobox}} later (lul) [19:52:02] [2/2] anything i should know (before losing another hour of my life?) [19:52:06] [1/2] [19:52:06] [2/2] Not the correct result? Use `!wiki !dev page LuaInfobox` for a direct link or `!wiki !dev search LuaInfobox` for a list of all hits. [20:22:48] Wow, nice job on that customizable Infobox module, @posix_memalign :) [21:43:09] How long does it take again for Special:ListGroupRights to update when you've made a permissions change? [21:43:51] [1/2] it has been 72 hours since i added the cname, so hopefully it propagated [21:43:51] [2/2] can someone try adding it again? [21:53:29] Just what Honoka has already said. Any `|` in the tables you need inside the if clauses need to be turned into `{{!}}` [22:20:39] [1/2] When I use popular proxies, I also see the 10 year ban too [22:20:40] [2/2] I wonder does raidarr have to face this or he just gets the global role that allows him to bypass it [22:22:07] They *should be anon only* iirc, but I also think stewards may bypass IP blocks but dont quote me [22:39:36] global role has the bits to bypass or I would have considerably more inconvenience doing my thing indeed [22:40:09] anon only is typical although on occasion for tried and true IPs that only correspond to certain abuse I have occasionally dashed some logged in blocks out [22:41:18] problem is that account attachment is kind of broken despite the logged in specification and that has been a substantial recurring inconvenience [23:18:39] [1/2] had to read both messages over again, but now it actually makes sense [23:18:39] [2/2] ...and i realized i'm gonna be makin' a template afterall ๐Ÿ˜”