[[File:Nobodychairdown1.wav]] [16:42:09] [8/39] [[File:Nobodychairdown2.wav]]/div [16:42:09] [9/39] |Chair creaking. [16:42:10] [10/39] |rowspan="3"|Plays when taking damage. [16:42:10] [11/39] |- [16:42:11] [12/39] |

[[File:Nobodyflinch1.wav]] [[File:Nobodyflinch2.wav]] [[File:Nobodyflinch3.wav]]/div [16:42:11] [13/39] |Pained shout. [16:42:12] [14/39] |- [16:42:12] [15/39] |[[File:Nobodydinners.mp3]] [16:42:13] [16/39] |Example of Nobody's morse code, transcribing the word "dinners". [16:42:13] [17/39] |- [16:42:14] [18/39] |

[[File:Nobodychairup1.wav]] [[File:Nobodychairup2.wav]]/div [16:42:14] [19/39] |Chair squeaking. [16:42:15] [20/39] |Plays during phase changes when Nobody leans back in her chair. [16:42:15] [21/39] |- [16:42:16] [22/39] |

[[File:Nobodypaper1.wav]] [[File:Nobodypaper2.wav]] [[File:Nobodypaper3.wav]]/div [16:42:16] [23/39] |Stack of papers hitting a surface. [16:42:17] [24/39] |Plays during phase changes when Nobody straightens out a stack of papers. [16:42:17] [25/39] |- [16:42:18] [26/39] |[[File:Nobodycig.wav]] [16:42:18] [27/39] |Fire being lit. [16:42:19] [28/39] |Plays during phase changes when she lights a cigarette to smoke. [16:42:19] [29/39] |- [16:42:20] [30/39] |[[File:Nobodycigextinguish.wav]] [[File:Nobodycigflick.wav]] [16:42:20] [31/39] |Ashes crunching. [16:42:21] [32/39] |Plays during phase changes when she flicks a cigarette at the player. [16:42:21] [33/39] |- [16:42:22] [34/39] |[[File:Nobodydeath.wav]] [16:42:22] [35/39] |Choked groan, accompanied by a harsh piano chord. [16:42:23] [36/39] |Plays on defeat. [16:42:23] [37/39] |- [16:42:24] [38/39] |}``` [16:42:24] [39/39] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531703310430765056/image.png?ex=6a6a2d5e&is=6a68dbde&hm=140bd70839a459cbc1d0919161d31b6d07ddfb0f22b9074ed47811f26bc06027& [16:42:25] [1/2] like normally they do not take up the entire span of the page [16:42:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531703359902453921/image.png?ex=6a6a2d6a&is=6a68dbea&hm=320d12476422f353aa9c57dbc568ff1fac2a56b22f9d91c3cac797a759ce9163& [16:44:40] I’ve just requested an import for my wiki. For some reason the site keeps crashing when I upload the xml files myself. It’s about 50 MB [16:45:50] For larger imports you need to make a request on [[Phorge]] [16:45:51]

[16:46:27] Special:Import fails at like 2MB or something [16:46:36] (dont quote me on that) [16:48:00] That's Special:Import. Special:RequestImport handles much larger files and 50MB is normally fine. But if there's some server hiccup then Phorge would be the way to go. [17:00:42] [1/2] Probably the flex divs [17:00:42] [2/2] If it goes away when taking those out then that's ur problem [17:09:00] huh. they always worked before, but ill give it a shot when im back [17:09:23] [1/2] wait but how else would i do them then [17:09:23] [2/2] if i take them out it aligns the audio horizontally next to each other [17:11:31] [[Special:RequestImport]] first [17:11:32]

[17:13:23] where do i get library of babel mod [17:14:30] <_arawynn> this is most likely not the right server for your question - it's the support server of the Wiki host Miraheze as a whole, not for a game or wiki [17:25:45] do you know if its possible to show a section of a page (as in a part of it created with a header) to certain groups only ? [17:26:13] [1/3] You can set gaps and margins for flex [17:26:13] [2/3] Might be the wikitable class [17:26:14] [3/3] Hard to say withiut seeing page or full css file [17:30:26] <_arawynn, replying to oenyx> As far as I'm aware, it's not possible [17:36:21] ohhh WHAT [17:36:32] okay you were right taking out the dividers did fix it [17:36:44] but i dont understand why they only failed on this page... hm [17:37:43] if the difference is purely cosmetic display then iirc there are some options for this, but if the content is meant to be sensitive and impossible to access to certain groups, then short of setting the entire wiki as private this would not work [17:38:13] AH never mind? deleting some spaces fixed it [17:38:22] weird. thanks for the help still though! [17:38:49] and as far as setting the entire wiki private, there is not a mechanism to do anything more granular than 'can view the wiki' and 'can only view whitelisted content' [18:10:46] Its nothing sensitive, i just wanted to add a link to a page with useful stuff to build the wiki on the main page for easy acces but hide it to regular user to keep it cleaner [18:12:10] You can use js to check for user group(s) and hide that section if the user does/does not belong to a group. There is also the RightFunctions extension but we are considering removing it because it disables the parser cache. [18:12:24] If needed I can write a snippet later today which does this. [18:14:11] I hope we can keep RightFunctions. [18:16:34] I'll try to look at how i could do it now that i have a clue at where to start. I would like to have the snippet if i can't figure it out but its nothing pressing so no worries [18:21:32] I think just having a regular link like most wikis do is just preferable [18:21:42] Because it helps new editors and old editors alike [18:44:28] i mean i have the link in the citizen skin footer right now, i can just keep it like that [18:45:50] The request has made it through. Now time to focus on the site’s cosmetics [18:54:58] Have you tried the Dynamic Sidebar extension? It allows for you to set group sections where links on a sidebar are only viewable if the person is in a certain group [19:37:02] A wiki farm I follow, WikiOasis, has restricted access to AI crawlers/scrapers such as GPTBot, Claudebot and PerplexityBot [19:37:09] Will Miraheze do something similar? [19:37:39] The team stated their reasoning was their "huge strain on server load, and that is without getting into the ethical aspects of AI scraping" [19:37:55] Makes sense on strain on server load since WikiOasis is a small farm [19:39:05] we already do [19:39:10] we block various LLMs [19:39:15] and AIs [19:39:22] and scrappers [19:39:49] Thanks for that advice [19:46:48] the strain is universal and only can be ignored if you have the theoretically limitless pockets of a major corporation [19:48:01] and even a company like fandom has taken measures although they may appear somewhat more graceful [20:34:05] [1/2] i use an invisible usage of `{{#babel:}}` to make a page load its css, so you can make other userboxes out of it [20:34:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531761685147291658/image.png?ex=6a6a63bc&is=6a69123c&hm=7dcb0ebf8906986ced983e2087086da6349b2b9013ce74af3b7952cd46c3bd32& [20:37:36] use class and group-specific css (ofc it's only visually hidden to other groups and this method should not be used to store confidential Information) [20:38:57] [1/5] example: (the four images are: for me; for non-sysop; common.css; group-sysop.css) [20:38:58] [2/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531762911976886313/image.png?ex=6a6a64e0&is=6a691360&hm=0c9d5a2922b4fa22e0e647702f7763798cc866fa6594d0c9bf67dc77f6d5b880& [20:38:58] [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531762912312561714/image.png?ex=6a6a64e1&is=6a691361&hm=d2b97cbe8f0226484487f09a7aa159929985ff0286c966205621367a744f9628& [20:38:58] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531762912715341916/image.png?ex=6a6a64e1&is=6a691361&hm=1fc996be257cffd008e250286b1da0aa24dec32fb16bf748a1196e3d740bb5bb& [20:38:59] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531762913163874495/image.png?ex=6a6a64e1&is=6a691361&hm=8920bb13023b9191aed8e69c9eacb1ce4299ece1afa6666e2976db02e6fb196a& [20:42:22] i think css-based solutions are better and avoid potential fouc [21:01:23] We actively monitor the various AI scrapers and any causing inappropriate load are restricted or blocked. [21:01:58] We also watch Cloudflare's announcements closely for things we can use to better manage them [21:20:27] [1/2] Is there a way to scale an image by a percentage of their base size? For instance by accessing their width via parser functions... [21:20:27] [2/2] I found the following extension but it's not installed on miraheze so I can't use it : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageSizeInfoFunctions [21:54:54] is there any way to force a section to close? i have content after the final section / h2 of my pages that i dont want to be collapsed when the final section is collapsed [21:57:45] `== ==`? [21:59:48] doesnt that just create a h2 with no text? which can still be collapsed [22:46:24] [1/2] The `upright` parameter [22:46:24] [2/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images#Syntax [23:05:44] [1/3] It doesn't do anything for me. It's getting late though, I'll try again tomorrow [23:05:44] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531799848305688667/image.png?ex=6a6a8747&is=6a6935c7&hm=ac916c5f1aed63c4d69ad7e5abd791bc354511c396f1cb3291f603cf30b89626& [23:05:44] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531799848737706145/image.png?ex=6a6a8747&is=6a6935c7&hm=530b42b7e2a1c433f0125cddb9f4744aea38dd5829cc1d9800827b210e490fad& [23:17:58] oh my god does Cargo really not support aliasing with `AS` [23:27:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Querying_data##cargo_query [23:27:29] `|fields=field1=fieldAlias1,field2=Alias2, etc.` [23:27:43] in Scribunto [23:27:52] is this supposed to work the same [23:29:00] I guess I can try, but otherwise I'll just do `row.name = row.pagename or row.name` [23:30:00] huh, it does work [23:30:04] okay that's weird as hell but whatever [23:37:43] [1/2] Works for me - might be cached for you? Or there could be separate file handling going on in your css [23:37:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531807897770528818/image.png?ex=6a6a8ec6&is=6a693d46&hm=58c760e59ee8e9de83c33b0f7a438d99983b46ef2c0421f2865ec3958235e948& [23:51:49] with a small enough parameter I can make the image smaller, but I can't make it bigger. It must be that ||upright|| can't increase the image size past its default size or something [23:52:54] [1/2] the base image I used is 31x48 pixels [23:52:55] [2/2] (the wiki is for a game with pixel art graphics, which is precisely why I want to scale up the sprites) [23:58:07] No, upright can scale quite large. I think the problem is .png file type - scaling up a jpg by 10 does increase it by a factor of 10, but the .png only gets so large. And that would track with this line: `The default maximum size depends on the format and the internal image dimensions (according to its media type).` [23:58:43] [1/2] Hard to parse but this is a .png and a .jpg scaled using upright by a factor of 5 [23:58:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1531813185336901792/image.png?ex=6a6a93b3&is=6a694233&hm=5b70673f2d424bc77ae8632a866f2b4f23578bc54802c55691c421b76d78912b&