[09:16:06] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <lukeyboi, replying to figoarto> [1/2] Typical AVID LTA behaviour. Doesn’t understand the gravity of what they’ve done, believe “time” is all that’s needed to forgive them and then hopes WikiForge staff will go above AVID staff to unban them under the guise that “Well, AVID staff are too strict!”
[09:16:06] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <lukeyboi, replying to figoarto> [2/2] It sucks that WikiForge staff have to gain our side of the story too and won’t act based on some one sided claims 🤷‍♂️
[12:51:34] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/2] To clarify a misconception -- unlike WikiTide where organization functionaries (stewards) can intervene and arbitrate local matters, WikiForge staff do not interfere with internal operations of our clients, including ban or unban decisions.
[12:51:35] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/2] The only exceptions are generally in extreme cases like violations of terms of use or legal statute/ copyright compliance.
[13:42:34] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <thedemon08, replying to notaracham> Why are we consistently having to deal with internal AVID disputes here anyway. This really isn’t the place for it.
[14:37:25] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/6] Despite the number of AVID-related comments in this channel, it's been thankfully slim compared to the usual level of activity on their server.
[14:37:26] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/6] Comments over here are largely 3 categories:
[14:37:26] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> [3/6] * AVID technical issues (majority, mostly relevant for WF to know)
[14:37:26] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> [4/6] * AVID ban disputes (limited, not relevant for WF to know)
[14:37:27] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> [5/6] * AVID general discussion (limited, extremely not relevant to WF)
[14:37:27] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham> [6/6] Raidarr recently has made clear both here and on AVID's server the appropriate venues for these categories, none of which are here and we've seen a pretty steep decline since. 🙂
[15:16:10] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <epic eye, replying to raidarr> "wrong question" But even though it's a question I asked, I didn't know what I was going to do to resolve it before.
[15:18:13] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to thedemon08> because it's the easiest place people who've excised themselves from proper avid venues can use to talk about avid
[15:18:27] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <raidarr> unless this server specifically stomps the effect it will probably continue, as the path of least resistance
[15:27:26] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to epic eye> Either way, this is an issue better served through the wiki-support channel on AVID's discord server, WF staff are monitoring it as well.
[15:29:41] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <hb1290, replying to notaracham> You just made me realise we hadn’t put our server in #server-invites. At least it’s on there now so we can redirect people easier
[15:30:29] <WikiForgeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to hb1290> Thanks for the catch, much appreciated!