[11:10:45] gopavasanth: the computed features are about ~90GB. The thumbnails are ~50GB. The total is ~140GB. I can send this to you [12:23:19] gopavasanth: I can setup a place for you to download to your computer but I don't want to put the link here and have a lot of people downloading 150GB of data from our public servers. Or, if we are both planning on making this on wikimedia, is there a place on toolforge where we can work on this? [12:39:42] Is there somebody in charge of the hackathon program I can talk to? I have proposed an unconference session in Phabricator, but it is still not reviewed, despite the hackathon will be in a week. And I also have several other questions. [12:40:23] I thought you were supposed to just add it to the calendar yourself (re @Tohaomg: Is there somebody in charge of the hackathon program I can talk to? I have proposed an unconference session in Phabricator, but ...) [12:40:40] do you want to ask the other questions here? [12:41:36] s/calendar/program/ [12:46:30] Hm, I thought it is just like in Wikimania: you propose a session, and organizing committee decides whether accept it or not. Ok then, I'll be bald and add it myself. (re @jeremy_b: I thought you were supposed to just add it to the calendar yourself) [12:46:54] Does it work the same way with propositions of social events? [12:48:07] AFAIK, it's the same with social events [12:49:06] the program is self documenting, see "how to contribute" section. (re @Tohaomg: Hm, I thought it is just like in Wikimania: you propose a session, and organizing committee decides whether accept it or not. Ok...) [12:49:28] less clear for social but I agree it appears that way. (re @Sannita: AFAIK, it's the same with social events) [13:12:15] I asked for the event I added and was told that it was the same way, anyone can add! (re @jeremy_b: less clear for social but I agree it appears that way.) [13:15:48] (Unrelated but fun little project someone put together: https://github.com/weavefront/Wikiputer, I recently got it running on my Cardputer, works surprisingly well!) [13:19:09] You can send questions to me, but as everyone pointed out and is described on the event's program page (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026/Program), no one is vetting the sessions, you just add it yourself to the schedule. [13:19:09] The same goes for social events! (re @Tohaomg: Is there somebody in charge of the hackathon program I can talk to? I have proposed an unconference session in Phabricator, but ...) [15:08:13] carandraug: have you shared this with the wmf search team yet ? (re @wmtelegram_bot: gopavasanth: the computed features are about ~90GB. The thumbnails are ~50GB. The total is ~140GB. I can send this...) [15:17:49] djhartman: I have not. I'm not sure who the right people to talk about this are. I'm only now realising that wikimedia can provide support. Is there a room I can join? I'm takling here because I was planning to attend the hackathon [15:32:18] I've found #wikimedia-search [16:39:59] carandraug: _was_ planning? Have you changed your mind? :( [17:04:35] waldyrious: yes. I don't think I'm involved enough yet. I think there's a lot from the technical side of how wikimedia works and has to offer to volunteers that I need to learn first. While for sure I would be surrounded by the best people to learn those things at the hackathon, they are also at the level where I could learn them by myself from wikitech without bothering anyone. Also, with the travel included, it's ~4 days covering a [17:04:36] long weekend. I'd need to leave my wife behind on her own with a baby and a preschooler [17:05:49] maybe next year when the baby is older and we manage to find someone to stay and help while I'm away [17:29:49] I don't think you'd be bothering anyone but I didn't realize those other offline considerations. (re @wmtelegram_bot: waldyrious: yes. I don't think I'm involved enough yet. I think there's a lot from the technical side of how wikime...) [17:56:08] You also don't need to know everything to attend either :) [17:57:08] alternative (I assume too late for this time) is bring them with you [17:57:51] carandraug: I agree the concerns about bothering people are unfounded, and people would be happy to help you onboard the Wikimedia technical community โ€” the whole point of the Hackathon is to create/straighten bonds, and help participants connect with those who can complement their existing knowledge (and it's clear you already are quite proficient technically, [17:57:52] so nothing to wo [17:57:53] rry about there), much more than "getting things done" per se :) [17:59:08] That said, IRL logistics are definitely challenging with these events. I did stop myself for a couple years after my first son was born. If your decision is already made, I hope you'll consider attending next year! [18:00:51] (incidentally, I have finally figured out where I recognized your name from โ€” you were the one who merged my contribution of a MediaWiki syntax highlighting .lang file to the gtwsourceview project, back in 2013! ๐Ÿ˜) [18:01:20] *gtksourceview [18:03:02] I know childcare can be an issue more widely in the WMF internal events too. [18:03:03] Obviously it's too late for this year, and I want to avoid volunteering work for other people, but I wonder if it's something that could be considered as part of the hackathon provison... [18:03:05] Do I remember right that some previous Wikimania's may have had some (even if informally arranged) provision? [18:22:57] Just wanted to chime in and say I bring my toddler to wiki conferences, boot camps, events etc, and everyone always love having him there. Wikimedians are one of the most kid-friendly crowd I know and heโ€™s always asking when the next event is. He didnโ€™t want to come to wikicredcon because his friend had a birthday and everyone asked me where he was! [18:23:24] I just realized I wrote "straighten bonds" above, but I of course meant "strengthen bonds" ๐Ÿ˜… [18:41:36] I know a bunch of single day events that offered childcare. including art and feminism at MoMA. usually it's in the RSVP/registration form if an event offers that. so they can plan how much capacity they need. I don't recall for bigger multi day things but maybe I'm just forgetting. (re @tehreedy: I know childcare can be an issue more widely in the WMF internal [18:41:36] events too. [18:41:36] Obviously it's too late for this year, and I want ...) [19:23:34] Ah thats a huge data. Lemme create a space either in toolforge/vps and let you know so we could directly download there. (re @wmtelegram_bot: gopavasanth: the computed features are about ~90GB. The thumbnails are ~50GB. The total is ~140GB. I can send this...) [19:25:09] +1 (re @tehreedy: You also don't need to know everything to attend either :)) [19:26:49] You could support us in online though. This group usually gets more active during hackathon days. (re @waldyrious: carandraug: I agree the concerns about bothering people are unfounded, and people would be happy to help you onboard the Wikimed...) [20:33:14] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T424092 Happy to collaborate with anyone interested in working on this during the upcoming hackathon.. Feel free to sign up on the task. @carandraug ? [21:49:06] 2015 hackathon in Lyon had childcare, see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_Fr/Hackathon_Lyon_2015/Report & https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Learning_patterns/Organize_childcare_during_a_Wikimedia_event (re @tehreedy: I know childcare can be an issue more widely in the WMF internal events too. [21:49:08] Obviously it's too late for this year, and I want ...) [23:28:27] "bothering people" was a poor choice of words and I'm sure people would be happy to help. STill, I'd be wrong to ask people time when there's so much stuff online that I should get acquantined with first. E.g., I didn't know about toolforge until I joined this room [23:31:06] @waldyrious that was a very long time ago. I'm not involved in gtksourceview development anymore. I was big into Perl back then and doing regex for all my problems [23:31:31] @gopavasanth: are you attending the hackathon to work on that task?