[03:46:38] I thought the shuttle was managed by the local organization and I'm in another near hotel. Anyway, I arrive later than they schedule :-/ (re @jeremy_b: the hotel has a free shuttle to the local transit btw. must reserve in advance and they weren't sure if it's accessible. but any...) [04:42:39] Just got on the train to Milan, hopefully will arrive in ~12 hours if DB cooperates (which is a big if) [05:52:10] just getting the train to bovisa for the shuttle now 🪿 [05:54:57] I'm on the night train from Amsterdam and currently 4 hours late. Luckily, I planned a 5 hour transfer in Zurich so might still make it 🤞 [06:06:53] For scholars and WMF staff arriving today -- please read the briefing document/office wiki for details about the shuttles. They will be running between Bovisa station and the Voco hotel, *NOT* from the airport. You will need to get yourself to Bovisa via public transit (details are in the briefing doc!) [06:31:22] Is the shuttle waiting in the train station itself or in the carpark area outside ? [06:31:42] So is there shuttle to voco from airport? I just landed. [06:32:22] For those arriving in Bovisa to take the shuttles: you'll find us (or other Wikimedians holding the same sign). We look forward to seeing you! : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/5c7faea5/file_79790.jpg [06:32:28] See the message above you (re @doguabaris: So is there shuttle to voco from airport? I just landed.) [06:34:10] Sorry, where/what is bosiva? (re @Erin: For scholars and WMF staff arriving today -- please read the briefing document/office wiki for details about the shuttles. They ...) [06:34:26] It’s in the carpark ! We already left sorry but I am sure he will be back [06:34:42] Milano Bovisa Politecnico train station (re @doguabaris: Sorry, where/what is bosiva?) [06:34:54] Ok, thanks [06:35:51] (re @Erin: For scholars and WMF staff arriving today -- please read the briefing document/office wiki for details about the shuttles. They ...) [06:35:58] (re @DarioCrespi: For those arriving in Bovisa to take the shuttles: you'll find us (or other Wikimedians holding the same sign). We look forward ...) [06:41:10] I was very impressed by the large ominous room they have you walk through to reach the train station. [06:52:35] If someone wants to work these days on the i18n of one of the coolest projects you can find around (https://eu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hiruwiki, an interactive math visualizing tool), you can work with me (I will be in remote) in this ticket: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T420204 [06:52:36] I will be sending an e-mail to wikimedia-l about this project today. Feel free to adapt it, you won't regret! [06:58:34] Missed my layover flight to Milan from Frankfurt ☹️ [06:58:35] I’ll see what I can do [06:59:34] you saw the instructions? first try to see what's offer from airline. then to Amex if you have trouble with airline (re @b_kh_1648: Missed my layover flight to Milan from Frankfurt ☹️ [06:59:35] I’ll see what I can do) [07:00:08] Yeah, currently headed for airline’s support 🫡 [07:04:12] Airlines are usually pretty good at those. Just the eternal of how long you have to wait! [07:08:31] 30 minutes in, and the queue has moved by only two lanes 🤣 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e3a2c1df/file_79793.jpg [07:09:42] I feel that pain (re @doguabaris: 30 minutes in, and the queue has moved by only two lanes 🤣) [07:09:44] immigration? was rather extra long line for non-EU people at CDG. but moved quickly. (re @doguabaris: 30 minutes in, and the queue has moved by only two lanes 🤣) [07:10:28] It was okay for me, but I was there right at 7:30 so the slow kiosks were compensated for by the lines not having time to accumulate. [07:10:39] At least you have internet, I remember arriving in the US and there were so many people wifi just didn't work (re @doguabaris: 30 minutes in, and the queue has moved by only two lanes 🤣) [07:11:16] Here it’s not moving at all, looks like only two counters are open. (re @jeremy_b: immigration? was rather extra long line for non-EU people at CDG. but moved quickly.) [07:12:23] I use my own data 🫡 (re @sjoerddebruin: At least you have internet, I remember arriving in the US and there were so many people wifi just didn't work) [07:12:41] Yeah it was before i had esim support [07:21:51] Is anyone transferring in amsterdam schipol? Ill be there in about 2 hours [07:22:14] Is you next flight around 2 PM with KLM? [07:22:47] (KLM flights from Schiphol are usually packed with Wikimedians) [07:24:26] Yeah klm 1617 [07:24:41] Departs 14:20 [07:27:30] Which airport has the long immigration line? (re @doguabaris: 30 minutes in, and the queue has moved by only two lanes 🤣) [07:44:41] That's MXP. Was there earlier, luckily the line wasn't as long yet. Still had to wait 15 minutes though. [07:48:02] See you there! (re @goodvibes6177: Departs 14:20) [07:55:24] I land at Malpensa ~11:40 [08:00:18] I'm flying via AMS. [08:00:20] Last flight lands at 15:55 at LIN [08:13:45] Walking from Bovisa to the hotel turned out to be quite doable, incidentally. Took about 45 minutes. [08:16:52] Just passed (re @doguabaris: 30 minutes in, and the queue has moved by only two lanes 🤣) [08:17:51] Got rebooked 🔥 [08:17:53] Man that was scary. Thanks for support! (re @b_kh_1648: Yeah, currently headed for airline’s support 🫡) [08:25:08] Hope a reasonable delay? (re @b_kh_1648: Got rebooked 🔥 [08:25:09] Man that was scary. Thanks for support!) [08:25:31] Just a few hours (re @sjoerddebruin: Hope a reasonable delay?) [08:56:40] Is there an English overview of this project? Or is that what the email to wikimedia-l will be? If so, please share a link here when you post — I'm curious to learn more about this :) (re @Galder: If someone wants to work these days on the i18n of one of the coolest projects you can find around (https://eu.wikipedia.org/wik...) [09:03:55] no, there isn't yet. I will write about that to wikimedia-l today (re @waldyrious: Is there an English overview of this project? Or is that what the email to wikimedia-l will be? If so, please share a link here ...) [09:23:05] I’m at the Bovisa train station where are the shuttles? [09:24:38] Just found [10:41:51] Im at schipol airport gate d85. 1hr40m until final flight :) im wearing a light blue wiki shirt, feel free to say hi if you see me [10:48:41] At what hour do you land Novem? [10:49:26] @itsnyoty (re @goodvibes6177: Yeah klm 1617) [10:50:03] Thank you [10:50:20] prego [11:02:12] Just arrived at the airport (was a bit delayed) if anyone else is landing in the next hour or so and wants to head to catch the shuttle together let me know! [11:03:42] Malpensa airport or linate airport? [11:04:40] Malpensa! [11:19:14] Made the connection and am on the train towards Milan now. 🚄 (re @Jan_ainali: I'm on the night train from Amsterdam and currently 4 hours late. Luckily, I planned a 5 hour transfer in Zurich so might still ...) [11:20:27] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/bdc3139c/party_time_excellent_wayne_s_world.mp4 [11:20:50] (apologies to the IRC people missing the jiff) [12:22:16] Where did you find it? (re @doguabaris: I’m at the Bovisa train station where are the shuttles?) [12:23:02] It’s next to station a carpark [12:23:17] Take the exit, turn left [12:23:46] There should be someone from local organization [12:24:04] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/feda7c3b/file_79800.jpg [12:24:17] Yep 😂 (re @DarioCrespi: ) [12:25:47] On train to Bovisa from Malpensa (if you are doing so you can take the Milan Centrale or Cadorina) [12:27:10] I missed him at the train station at first but went back and found him [12:49:41] Found Wikipedia-man close to San Babila station 😉 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/bbbd205f/file_79802.jpg [12:57:23] I arrived late yesterday : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/94eb25f1/file_79804.jpg [13:00:34] Couple of us waiting in the shuttle at politecnica station :) whee [13:32:33] Hi all! Me and some other folks from WMDE arrived at the www.thehubhotel.com just half an hour ago. We were wondering if there'll be some food already at the venue in the evening. 🤔 [13:35:41] Anyone up for some adventuring ? I’d like to see whether I can end up at SNOB to also buy some good beers 😎 [13:37:49] 7pm AFAIK. should double check. (re @Fisch: Hi all! Me and some other folks from WMDE arrived at the www.thehubhotel.com just half an hour ago. We were wondering if there'l...) [13:42:51] dinner tonight is indicated in the scholarship/sponsorship section. my understanding is that if you're not in these categories you should self organize dinner. [13:43:53] Dinner is only for scholars and sponsored staff. Sorry everyone. [13:47:15] that would explain why I didn’t see anything on the program… [13:47:49] /me is not a fan of this two-class society at Wikimedia events [13:52:24] exactly (re @lucaswerkmeister: /me is not a fan of this two-class society at Wikimedia events) [13:53:19] (but also I don't know for sure what the arrangement was last year) [13:54:00] lmk if anyone's interested in joining a trip by duomo. I'm thinking about going to the high line over there. [14:02:05] At least two of us (Simon and I) are leaving for https://snob-beer.it at 16:15. Back in time for dinner around 19:30 [14:06:29] For craft beer fans, this is an amazing list carefully curated by a friend of mine: https://maps.app.goo.gl/oc135L6iqcHNTkTt7 [14:10:39] Where are you meeting? Lobby? (re @siebrand: At least two of us (Simon and I) are leaving for https://snob-beer.it at 16:15. Back in time for dinner around 19:30) [14:12:52] Yes, lobby about now (re @Kartik: Where are you meeting? Lobby?) [14:13:34] OK. I can join. [14:15:31] Okay. Waiting for you next to the entrance in the lobby (re @Kartik: OK. I can join.) [14:39:19] Does anyone by any chance have a skill at lock picking and also the tools with them… [14:41:00] I once opened a lock at a Wikipedia conference (rotary combination, I used no tools) but no basically I'm not who you're looking for. the way I am most proficient in is bolt cutters. (re @tehreedy: Does anyone by any chance have a skill at lock picking and also the tools with them…) [14:41:22] If in doubt, brute force it 🤣 [14:41:46] it's lossy [14:42:05] I have a safe at home you can open by bouncing it effectively 🤦‍♂️ [14:43:12] does it matter what sort of floor you drop it on? [14:43:59] Bouncing it on your knee. Basically the moment and playing with the handle will open it. It’s ridiculous [14:44:00] Moment/movement [14:58:45] I'm around that area right now (re @jeremy_b: lmk if anyone's interested in joining a trip by duomo. I'm thinking about going to the high line over there.) [14:59:21] Unblock Hackathon IPs from Beta Cluster: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T424998 (private) [14:59:51] It's me now waiting at the Bonova train station for new arrivals [15:00:01] For folks who don't drink but like beer - the Peroni 0.0% is pretty delicious and they have it at the bar at the venue hotel. [15:00:39] *Bovisa 😉 (re @super_nabla: It's me now waiting at the Bonova train station for new arrivals) [15:01:11] I'm on the train from the airport to there now :) [15:01:14] Hahahahahah you are right (re @DarioCrespi: *Bovisa 😉) [15:09:17] Well CDG was easy today. No new machines, no fingerprints and no passport stamp! [15:09:18] Transit security took longer than anything else [15:11:26] The passport system in MXP confused me but I made it ;) [15:12:59] Aren’t they using the EES machines? Should be mandatory now (re @tehreedy: Well CDG was easy today. No new machines, no fingerprints and no passport stamp! [15:13:00] Transit security took longer than anything els...) [15:13:22] I'm at bovisa but not seeing wikimedians 😬 where is the shuttle exactly? [15:13:43] @river_disguise (re @Erin: Shuttles are in the parking lot!) [15:13:44] We are almost at Bovisa as well, 3 people [15:13:51] They are for some queues. I’m not 100% sure, but airline status and a UK passport they routed me straight to a person (re @val_cio: Aren’t they using the EES machines? Should be mandatory now) [15:14:18] I am in the parking lot 😅 (re @BeeBee_P: @river_disguise) [15:14:27] Preparing for the sweets table tomorrow... : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/096aab0e/file_79810.jpg [15:14:41] We are 2, arriving at bovisa in 30mins [15:15:08] Do one really blip the credit card when getting off the tram? Wikivoyage said so, but I see no one else blipping before disembarking. [15:15:19] Are these crostoli?? (re @LorenzoLosa: Preparing for the sweets table tomorrow...) [15:15:40] If they have a subscription or daily tickets they don’t have to. [15:15:41] I’d you use tap to pay depends on the line (re @Jan_ainali: Do one really blip the credit card when getting off the tram? Wikivoyage said so, but I see no one else blipping before disembar...) [15:15:54] Line 1 [15:16:22] And I tapped when I entered. [15:16:44] Indeed! Technically out of season, but well... (re @BeeBee_P: Are these crostoli??) [15:20:05] We are at the parking space [15:23:47] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/54b4611f/file_79811.jpg [15:23:57] 3 of us are here. Is this close to the shuttle? [15:24:31] That's the pickup point, yeah [15:25:18] Shuttle is currently on its way towards the venue, about half way there. [15:27:32] it looks delicious 😋 [15:27:33] now I'm officially jealous that I can't come to this hackathon :( (re @LorenzoLosa: Preparing for the sweets table tomorrow...) [15:28:58] We're splitting a taxi then (re @lcawte: Shuttle is currently on its way towards the venue, about half way there.) [15:30:26] It's about to leave to head back [15:31:53] Is anyone else staying at The Hub Hotel? (re @Fisch: Hi all! Me and some other folks from WMDE arrived at the www.thehubhotel.com just half an hour ago. We were wondering if there'l...) [15:32:18] I think WMDE-ers are [15:35:17] There's a group of 4 of us by the front door of the train station [15:41:20] Airline lounges reminding me… pro tip: if you leave your laptop unattended at the hackathon (which you probably shouldn’t do anyway), *please* lock it [15:42:54] The dinner at 19:00 is only for sponsored participants, is that correct? [15:43:08] Were arriving at bovisa [15:43:17] Yes it is (re @siebrand: The dinner at 19:00 is only for sponsored participants, is that correct?) [15:43:32] Cool. No rush to get back for me then. [15:43:57] is anyone arriving to Malpensa about 21:00 to share a taxi? Please DM me [15:44:33] Hi folks, it's denisse. I made it to Milán!! I'm in the airport now. :) [15:48:58] I'm looking at these conversations thousands of km away. If some people decided not to fight amongst themselves. [15:51:15] I’d love a hackathon in Ukraine in the near future [15:58:00] I just landed in Milan Linate, see y'all tomorrow! [15:59:40] A dream of mine too. Last Ukrainian wiki conference did have a few technical sections, though, but clearly not at the same scale (re @tehreedy: I’d love a hackathon in Ukraine in the near future) [16:05:40] I would like to say that I may bring them to other events, but reality is that to prepare this kind of sweets I need the event to be near to my kitchen 😊 (re @NicolasVIGNERON: it looks delicious 😋 [16:05:41] now I'm officially jealous that I can't come to this hackathon :() [16:08:13] I am more than happy to have you at my home and that we cook them this summer, if a kitchen is everything you're missing. (re @LorenzoLosa: I would like to say that I may bring them to other events, but reality is that to prepare this kind of sweets I need the event t...) [16:18:02] A kitchen, some tools and time... But that's a starting point. Let's think about it :-) [16:21:38] Yeah, it is my personal dream to organize the Wikimedia Hackathon in Ukraine one day (re @tehreedy: I’d love a hackathon in Ukraine in the near future) [16:27:06] Then Wikimania? ;) [16:33:47] We'll make it someday and it'll be an amazing hackaton!! 🇺🇦🙌🏻🕊️ [16:34:25] I should start keeping track of everyone I tell "my house is open"... (re @LorenzoLosa: A kitchen, some tools and time... But that's a starting point. Let's think about it :-)) [16:42:58] Is that one today?? 👀 (re @siebrand: The dinner at 19:00 is only for sponsored participants, is that correct?) [16:43:14] Yes 👍 (re @bubblegumelectric: Is that one today?? 👀) [16:55:34] Hi everyone! There's 130 people who need to register for the hackathon tomorrow morning. To make everyone's life easier, please show up well ahead of the start time so we can register everyone before the opening. [16:57:14] Can someone remind me what to do if people join the chat and cannot message the group? [16:59:07] I think they need to do this? (re @albertoleoncio: Restricted? Please confirm your account at this link. After confirmation, your account will be automatically voiced.) [16:59:12] 1) tell them to see pinned message and then 2) poke an admin. I guess bryan and I are a good start. (re @BeeBee_P: Can someone remind me what to do if people join the chat and cannot message the group?) [16:59:47] or whoever else wants to volunteer [17:01:05] Thank you!!! [17:01:25] It’s currently the start time, on floor 1, and they’re still getting it ready. Looks like it’s a reasonable open buffet arrangement, rather than something where they want to serve you on a fixed schedule. (re @BeeBee_P: Yes it is) [17:03:13] Sounds hackathony [17:03:23] So we can come a little bit later? (re @kemayo: It’s currently the start time, on floor 1, and they’re still getting it ready. Looks like it’s a reasonable open buffet arrangem...) [17:03:38] Thanks, that worked! (re @Sdkb47: I think they need to do this?) [17:03:49] Hi all, again. :-) [17:04:16] maybe they could announce an end time (re @val_cio: So we can come a little bit later?) [17:04:22] Those dodgy ex board members [17:14:17] Food will be there until 9pm :) (re @val_cio: So we can come a little bit later?) [17:20:00] Does anyone known if i can leave bags at the reception at Voco? I’m already in Milan, but staying somewhere else tonight and will move to the Voco tomorrow. Check-in is at 15.00, so i don’t want to be carrying my bags around all the time. [17:20:35] I imagine you can… or there should be someone in here that you trust enough to have them in their room 😜 [17:20:55] For those not on scholarship: Hotel restaurant will be open at 7:30 according to the bartender [17:30:20] When the taxi was too expensive : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/71a6cdb9/file_79818.jpg [17:31:06] Straight from the airport.. eh? 😅 [17:31:46] You can take a Dutch man out of the Netherlands… [17:32:38] I'm Belgian but yea haha [17:32:53] Which side? ;) [17:36:04] Flanders [17:37:32] Hi folks I'm a sponsored participant, I've just arrived to the hotel. Do you know if I can still make it to the dinner today?? [17:37:43] This will narrow down the bus stop geofinder 🤔 (re @itsnyoty: Flanders) [17:37:44] Also, do you know where is it?? [17:42:21] You only tap when you get on board a tram or bus, not when you get off. If wikivoyage is saying otherwise, send me the link and I'll fix it :) (re @Jan_ainali: Do one really blip the credit card when getting off the tram? Wikivoyage said so, but I see no one else blipping before disembar...) [17:43:11] I stay at the klima hotel (like 2 streets away from the event) Is there anyone in the near vicinity with a powerbank that I can use? Phone is dead and want to go take a look at the Duomo [17:43:23] (if you stay at voco, i'll just go to you) [17:43:33] Or the other hotel next to voco [17:43:57] I have the power bank.. I can lend it to you [17:45:12] I have one, I'm at Voco. (re @itsnyoty: I stay at the klima hotel (like 2 streets away from the event) Is there anyone in the near vicinity with a powerbank that I can ...) [17:45:42] I will get in contact with Dax first [17:45:52] But thanks in advance :) [17:46:37] Hi! Yes you can still get dinner. Dinner is on floor 1 at the restaurant (lobby is floor 0) (re @bubblegumelectric: Also, do you know where is it??) [17:47:36] But you have to tap when leaving the metro (otherwise you risk paying an extra fare) (re @dhinus: You only tap when you get on board a tram or bus, not when you get off. If wikivoyage is saying otherwise, send me the link and ...) [17:47:40] I'm staying in Klima too and I have a powerbank (re @itsnyoty: I stay at the klima hotel (like 2 streets away from the event) Is there anyone in the near vicinity with a powerbank that I can ...) [17:51:28] I did same maneuver one day earlier successfully (re @hayify: Does anyone known if i can leave bags at the reception at Voco? I’m already in Milan, but staying somewhere else tonight and wil...) [17:54:36] Great, thanks! (re @jeremy_b: I did same maneuver one day earlier successfully) [17:54:48] There are 4 of us in the Bovisa station's parking lot to get on the next shuttle, which just arrived. Is anyone about to arrive in the next few minutes? [17:55:17] (I'll try to read the chat backlog but I might miss something on so many messages 😅) [18:41:19] Boarding a MXP flight right next to a LIN flight and just calling it Milan on the announcements… [18:44:40] They’re running Debian for the display screens though [18:45:13] Greetings from Malpensa (re @IsmaelOlea: is anyone arriving to Malpensa about 21:00 to share a taxi? Please DM me) [18:53:32] Just spotted a Hackathon WiFi network 👀 [18:55:09] Fonzo’s NYC. Probably as good as a catered dinner. Enjoy peeps! : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/36a98024/file_79820.jpg [18:55:11] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/fce74d55/file_79821.jpg [18:56:22] NYC subway countdown also is Debian. (sometimes they reboot) how do you know airport? (re @tehreedy: They’re running Debian for the display screens though) [18:56:55] So, never one to not take an avgeek indulgence, after a longer layover than necessary at CDG, I’m flying an A318, which is moving very much towards retirement from AF. They’re pretty rare generally (only 80 built, vs 12.5K for the A320 family). [18:56:55] I have already flown a BA A318 (IYKYK) a few years ago, but something a bit rare is always appreciated. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/254a413f/file_79822.jpg [19:00:06] one of these four? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Current_Airbus_A318_of_Air_France (get photos!) (re @tehreedy: So, never one to not take an avgeek indulgence, after a longer layover than necessary at CDG, I’m flying an A318, which is movin...) [19:00:09] Turns out it was me reading poorly. 🤦‍♂️ [19:00:09] Wikivoyage was correct all along. (re @dhinus: You only tap when you get on board a tram or bus, not when you get off. If wikivoyage is saying otherwise, send me the link and ...) [19:00:24] There was no good view :( (re @mikepeel: one of these four? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Current_Airbus_A318_of_Air_France (get photos!)) [19:01:01] F-GUGM [19:01:36] there are no photos of Commons of what it looks like inside... 😉 [19:02:07] Taking photos with people in… [19:02:09] Nowadays you need permission from the onboard staff if it shows one single person though [19:02:21] AF explicitly make announcements about it too [19:02:40] ah, shame, even backs of heads? [19:03:03] idk if I remember announcements but definitely there were emails (re @tehreedy: AF explicitly make announcements about it too) [19:03:14] as of last week [19:04:11] I guess the airport taxi here should be expensiver than in the Davos Summit. Damn. [19:04:49] The train is reasonably priced? [19:05:52] It's my hotel but just left the airport (re @itsnyoty: I stay at the klima hotel (like 2 streets away from the event) Is there anyone in the near vicinity with a powerbank that I can ...) [19:06:16] It's nice here : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/45ee7201/file_79823.jpg [19:06:18] No idea 😸 (re @tehreedy: The train is reasonably priced?) [19:06:40] Yes train is reasonably priced [19:07:10] I paid 2.20 to get from Forlalini to Certosa [19:32:14] Did Air India flight 137 make it to the hotel yet? [19:33:06] How did you get the ticket? Somehow, after paying, the only option I was offered was WhatsApp?! 😵‍💫 (re @itsnyoty: I paid 2.20 to get from Forlalini to Certosa) [19:33:24] I used the trenord site [19:34:01] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/9eba589f/file_79825.jpg [19:34:17] No airplanes at the hotel yet. (re @Erin: Did Air India flight 137 make it to the hotel yet?) [19:35:41] Earlier today : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/c01db3a1/file_79826.jpg [19:36:17] Was trying to photograph the pigeons but failed miserably. [19:36:31] I didn’t see them/they didn’t see me at the Bovisa train station, from where the shuttle to the hotel leaves (re @Erin: Did Air India flight 137 make it to the hotel yet?) [19:37:44] Erm, weird question but is anyone else getting a weird staticky feeling from their laptop when you plug it into your travel adapter at the room desk? [19:38:16] Wonder if it's because of the lack of ground pin [19:38:44] It will be, yeah [19:39:00] Is it safe...? [19:40:32] Some board games from @SirMMo - if anyone is interested in playing, meet us in the lobby : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/32942c0a/file_79827.jpg [19:40:49] It’s not ideal, but it is [19:41:26] I'm staying at thehub for the first night and just arrived [19:43:02] I have added board games to the schedule of social events for tomorrow. And brought some with me (re @LorenzoLosa: Some board games from @SirMMo - if anyone is interested in playing, meet us in the lobby) [19:49:27] Do any Australians have a spare travel adaptor ? Mine has gotten lost on the way here whoops, will sort something out tomorrow just wondering how early my mission out to amend this needs to be ! [19:50:22] Have you asked at the front desk? some hotels let you borrow adaptors (re @brodiejean: Do any Australians have a spare travel adaptor ? Mine has gotten lost on the way here whoops, will sort something out tomorrow j...) [19:50:24] I have an universal adapter [19:50:29] I have a spare universal adaptor, should work [19:50:45] I don't need it but I was certain it would be useful XD [19:52:06] Wow angels everywhere [19:52:11] you should plan to have stores closed tomorrow (re @brodiejean: Do any Australians have a spare travel adaptor ? Mine has gotten lost on the way here whoops, will sort something out tomorrow j...) [19:52:50] Are any of the universal adaptor people staying at voco and able to meet me in the lobby ? [19:55:07] I'm coming down soon (re @brodiejean: Are any of the universal adaptor people staying at voco and able to meet me in the lobby ?) [19:55:34] I'll be easy to recognise, since I have a lovely red wheelchair [19:58:13] A group of us are just about to arrive at the Bovisa station. (re @Erin: Did Air India flight 137 make it to the hotel yet?) [19:58:14] (People whose red wheelchairs are not lovely are not me. This is the identifying clue, obviously) [19:58:44] Great! You’ll see me close to the exit (re @kcvelaga: A group of us are just about to arrive at the Bovisa station.) [19:58:50] is there training data? (re @Harmonia: (People whose red wheelchairs are not lovely are not me. This is the identifying clue, obviously)) [19:59:01] How many minutes? The driver’s shift ends at 10pm so I want to let him know (re @kcvelaga: A group of us are just about to arrive at the Bovisa station.) [19:59:30] Is it 4 of you? [20:00:01] 5 min more (re @Erin: How many minutes? The driver’s shift ends at 10pm so I want to let him know) [20:00:11] Yes (re @Erin: Is it 4 of you?) [20:06:13] My flight got delayed and I should be at Bovisa in 20. I assume I'll need to self-organise transport to hotel? (re @Erin: How many minutes? The driver’s shift ends at 10pm so I want to let him know) [20:07:12] On our way to the hotel (re @kcvelaga: 5 mins more) [20:07:54] Unfortunately as the last shuttle is about to leave. It might be better to go all the way to cadorna station in order to ensure you can call a taxi, @dhinus mentioned it can be difficult to call one from Bovisa [20:09:34] Good to know! (re @Erin: Unfortunately as the last shuttle is about to leave. It might be better to go all the way to cadorna station in order to ensure ...) [20:09:39] Does anyone have a bluethoot speaker? We’d need it for our session!! [20:17:17] I don't think it's necessarily that hard from Bovisa, but Cadorna will have a shorter wait and possibly some taxis already waiting outside the station. (re @Erin: Unfortunately as the last shuttle is about to leave. It might be better to go all the way to cadorna station in order to ensure ...) [20:22:54] Arrived to Klima Hotel. [20:24:38] not for me but for reference: do you have to worry about whether taxis may be scams or playing games with the meter or even fakes? vs. calling one with a service and then you can match the license plate. (re @dhinus: I don't think it's necessarily that hard from Bovisa, but Cadorna will have a shorter wait and possibly some taxis already waiti...) [20:24:55] Question for the organizers: since I'm not at Voco, I'm supposed to can take breakfast with you? [20:25:24] does that mean you're not on scholarship? (re @IsmaelOlea: Question for the organizers: since I'm not at Voco, I'm supposed to can take breakfast with you?) [20:26:14] Breakfast is included in the room rate, so available for those who have booked at room at Voco (re @IsmaelOlea: Question for the organizers: since I'm not at Voco, I'm supposed to can take breakfast with you?) [20:27:27] depends which rate you booked, only some have breakfast. but then they also offered to add breakfast at checkin. which they said is cheaper (15 vs 20 €) than adding the morning of. (re @BeeBee_P: Breakfast is included in the room rate, so available for those who have booked at room at Voco) [20:29:59] The mediawiki page says 'Catering (lunch, dinner, snacks, and drinks) will be provided during the event' - which I read as breakfast not included for non-WMF folks. [20:31:45] mikepeel: there somewhere was hinted that there was breakfast included for atendees, which I assumed was separate from the room rate [20:33:41] here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026/Venue "Breakfast is available to those participants and their guests staying at the hotel.". At least I interpreted that was breakfast provided by the organisation but I can see how that can be interpreted in another way [20:34:14] they rent rooms with breakfast and they rent rooms without breakfast. and as I said before you can add later at checkin or you can add the morning of the meal. I guess the rooms paid directly by WMF are the rate with breakfast. (re @wmtelegram_bot: mikepeel: there somewhere was hinted that there was breakfast included for atendees, which I assumed was [20:34:15] separate f...) [20:34:31] *click* (re @wmtelegram_bot: here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026/Venue "Breakfast is available to those participants an...) [20:36:34] I read that as breakfast being provided for the people at the hotel who have paid for it, but not generally for all hackathon attendees... (which is quite normal) (re @wmtelegram_bot: here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026/Venue "Breakfast is available to those participants an...) [20:38:41] I was told by the receptionist that my breakfast has been paid (re @mikepeel: I read that as breakfast being provided for the people at the hotel who have paid for it, but not generally for all hackathon at...) [20:39:56] I have just arrived in Milan. I am staying at Best Western which is ~10 minutes by foot from the voco. [20:41:20] Yes, I have a portable Bose Bluetooth speaker that puts out boom box quality sound. Which session, what time? (re @val_cio: Does anyone have a bluethoot speaker? We’d need it for our session!!) [20:42:35] That would be awesome! Accessibility session, tomorrow at 10:45, space 5. [20:42:35] Or if you are at the hotel i could take it right now if you want (re @Bill: Yes, I have a portable Bose Bluetooth speaker that puts out boom box quality sound. Which session, what time?) [20:44:40] I'll see you in the morning. [20:44:42] I don't think this is a common thing in Milan, but obviously be careful, and if possible book from an app like Freenow or Uber. (re @jeremy_b: not for me but for reference: do you have to worry about whether taxis may be scams or playing games with the meter or even fake...) [20:44:54] Great! See you and thanks (re @Bill: I'll see you in the morning.) [20:59:39] Sadly, no. (re @jeremy_b: does that mean you're not on scholarship?) [21:03:32] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e79d8203/file_79830.webp [21:03:58] Uber is evil 👿 (re @dhinus: I don't think this is a common thing in Milan, but obviously be careful, and if possible book from an app like Freenow or Uber.) [21:14:27] Does your ac work? Tried lowering to min but it’s still quite warm [21:17:07] You need to tap out if you’re using payment card, otherwise it might charge you 10 euros (re @Jan_ainali: And I tapped when I entered.) [21:20:31] I didn't tap out in the end and was charged just above two €. (re @doti_itod_odit: You need to tap out if you’re using payment card, otherwise it might charge you 10 euros) [21:20:53] If you enter in the airport station, and use the visa card, seems that ticket is valid for the entire line, and you don't need to tap out, because it will throw an error. [21:20:54] At least was the information I was given in the final train station (re @doti_itod_odit: You need to tap out if you’re using payment card, otherwise it might charge you 10 euros) [21:22:27] I wasn't talking about trains but trams. (re @alchimistawp: If you enter in the airport station, and use the visa card, seems that ticket is valid for the entire line, and you don't need t...) [21:25:28] Usually (for the trams, buses and metros), if you use your credit card, you would be charged 2.2 for using of 1 hour and a half. [21:25:29] Atm (the official milan transportation) says that in buses and trams you don’t need to checkout, but in general (from experience) sometimes it might charge you more unless they fixed their contactless system. So I would recommend to tap out anyways just to make sure. [21:27:04] I am not sure which airport are you talking about (re @alchimistawp: If you enter in the airport station, and use the visa card, seems that ticket is valid for the entire line, and you don't need t...) [21:30:55] In trains it is different as you don’t have contactless payment (payingwith your card when you enter) but if you did, in the trains (the S lines inside Milan) you might encounter the control and they would validate your ticket (it is ok, if you paid the atm card bought before, or have an atm ticket bought in some shop or from the ticket machine) (re@alchimista [21:30:55] wp: If you enter [21:30:56] in the airport station, and use the visa card, seems that ticket is valid for the entire line, and you don't need t...) [21:32:00] https://www.atm.it/en/ViaggiaConNoi/Biglietti/Pages/contactless_cards_metro.aspx [21:37:39] I think there are restrictions on the temperatures that AC can work at in Italy/EU, since AC usage is bad for climate change. (re @val_cio: Does your ac work? Tried lowering to min but it’s still quite warm) [21:40:17] I arrived at Milan Linate Airport and used my card to tap in at the airport metro station. At Dateo station, I tapped out and transferred to the train. However, upon arriving at my final destination, I was unable to tap out at the exit gates. I requested assistance from station staff, who informed me that. (re @doti_itod_odit: I am not sure which airport are [21:40:17] you talking about) [21:40:50] Works well for me but we might be looking for entirely different temperatures 😉 (re @val_cio: Does your ac work? Tried lowering to min but it’s still quite warm) [21:42:37] For public transport info, you can refer to this page where I did my best to summarise how the system works: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026/Travel#Public_transport [21:44:00] The station staff were kind, but technically contactless credit card payment is NOT valid on S-Lines. Only on metro, trams and buses. (re @alchimistawp: I arrived at Milan Linate Airport and used my card to tap in at the airport metro station. At Dateo station, I tapped out and tr...) [21:44:47] Gotta love standardisation [21:45:41] freenow app can sometimes be cheaper than Uber (re @dhinus: For public transport info, you can refer to this page where I did my best to summarise how the system works: https://www.mediawi...) [21:47:12] Can confirm (re @doti_itod_odit: freenow app can sometimes be cheaper than Uber) [21:47:35] Even if they charge you 3 euros for "intermediation costs" [23:05:32] in case anyone else has struggles with the key card to turn on the lights: [23:05:33] I already was familiar with it from several hotels last year but today I told them I needed instruction so they came up and it turned out there was a breaker tripped. the breakers are hidden in a panel above, pull off the evacuation instructions to reveal.