[16:23:53] Generative AI is reshaping the knowledge ecosystem as we know it, and the Wikimedia movement needs to get up to speed to defend the Knowledge Commons. [16:23:54] Wikimedia CH and Open Future have just released a white paper proposing a decentralized, collaborative AI mission for the movement, supported by an AI Cluster. [16:23:55] You can read it and leave your feedback here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Knowledge_Commons_and_AI [16:23:57] Long ago I’ve known that Phabricator is not updated any longer since 2021: would we migrate to some platform else? [16:23:58] There's a community maintained fork called Phorge, we use that last I checked. [16:24:00] Then what’s [[phab:]]? (re @lcawte: There's a community maintained fork called Phorge, we use that last I checked.) [16:24:01] It's the old name of what we use now. (re @cvictorovich: Then what’s [[phab:]]?) [16:24:03] Isn’t it still an installation of Phabricator? [16:24:04] See T333885 (re @cvictorovich: Isn’t it still an installation of Phabricator?) [16:24:06] And https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/post/view/307/from_phabricator_to_phorge/ [16:24:07] No wonder I didn’t know before… (re @Jan_ainali: See T333885) [16:24:09] Why do we need it maintained? [16:24:10] Things not actively maintained are security nightmares! (re @Thecladis: Why do we need it maintained?) [16:24:12] Oh we did migrate, interesting, completely missed that [16:24:13] If the software is essentially the same and is actively looked after, does the end user really need to be concerned with which specific fork or version we run? (re @cvictorovich: No wonder I didn’t know before…) [16:24:15] It seems not very significant. But, I was curious that why everything seems haven’t changed, whilst the underlying incarnation has? (re @lcawte: If the software is essentially the same and is actively looked after, does the end user really need to be concerned with which s...) [16:24:16] Why would you make an assumption that we run old software and base your question on your assumption, instead of first making sure that your assumption is actually correct? (re @cvictorovich: Long ago I’ve known that Phabricator is not updated any longer since 2021: would we migrate to some platform else?) [16:25:00] Why would make the assumption that if we ran an older software version that we would not "actively maintain" that older version? (re @cvictorovich: Things not actively maintained are security nightmares!) [16:41:57] because of https://bash.toolforge.org/quip/7dfGZo4BGiVuUzOdfeV2 ? /hj (re @malyacko: Why would make the assumption that if we ran an older software version that we would not "actively maintain" that older version?) [20:23:09] I love how the instant Shakira began (the last artist in the halftime show) the Wikipedia is immediately edited to past tense. [20:23:10] No matter what happens, they will have all made an appearance by then. [20:23:12] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2026_FIFA_World_Cup_final_halftime_show&diff=1365014389&oldid=1365013289 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2026_FIFA_World_Cup_final_halftime_show&diff=1365014389&oldid=1365013289) [21:46:50] Hi :) Can you help me confirm that I need to install all the software mentioned on this page to be prepared for the Hackathon? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathons/Laptop_setup (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathons/Laptop_setup) [21:48:36] most of it looks relevant, it was edited less than a year ago. [21:49:18] don't stress if you have trouble with something. you can ask questions along the way. here or in https://t.me/wmhackmentoring [21:50:39] some of those things like IRC could be quite quick. but sure the more you do in advance the more you have time for other things later. [21:51:35] I am a bit confused about the plain text one. Why not some code editor instead. [21:52:07] Although at least on ubuntu most at least have some syntax highlighting [21:52:18] But Notepad.exe certainly doen't [21:53:06] if you click "Windows" then there's a recommendation which is not Notepad.exe (re @Thecladis: But Notepad.exe certainly doen't) [21:53:37] I basically don't use Windows [21:54:25] Ah (re @jeremy_b: if you click "Windows" then there's a recommendation which is not Notepad.exe) [22:05:41] But I don’t think IRC should be required: many many more IM platforms are better [22:06:48] It's not required required. It's just that there's where the devs you want help from are. (re @cvictorovich: But I don’t think IRC should be required: many many more IM platforms are better) [22:11:13] I saw that for macOS you recommend Smultron [22:12:02] But I shall recommend VSC more: it’s multi platform (re @cvictorovich: I saw that for macOS you recommend Smultron) [22:13:58] And it’s not free (re @cvictorovich: I saw that for macOS you recommend Smultron) [22:14:51] (I even thought Ainali recommended it to begin with many many years ago! (re @cvictorovich: And it’s not free) [22:28:04] You misremember. Why should I care about what Mac users use? (re @cvictorovich: (I even thought Ainali recommended it to begin with many many years ago!) [22:30:24] If anything, I recommend eating [[w:sv:Smultron]] [22:40:37] This is why I relate it to you! (re @Jan_ainali: If anything, I recommend eating [[w:sv:Smultron]]) [22:41:01] A look up told me that it’s not you haha (re @cvictorovich: This is why I relate it to you!)