[17:24:58] <akosiaris>	 I think this might be helpful for everyone involved running stateless services in kubernetes, even if it's is tailored for wikikube https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kubernetes/Capacity_Planning_of_a_Service
[17:50:14] <cdanis>	 nice writeup!
[19:14:27] <cdanis>	 has anyone else looked at https://github.com/werf/nelm ?
[19:26:57] <inflatador>	 +1, great writeup. I'm guessing this is going in to the production readiness checklist? (If not, it should ;) )
[19:34:45] <inflatador>	 Re: nelm, I've never used it but the writeup makes it sound like SSA is the killer feature: https://blog.werf.io/ssa-vs-3wm-in-helm-werf-nelm-4d7996354ebe . Which in turn makes me wonder if/when that will make it into Helm
[19:38:12] <inflatador>	 Has anyone tried using Istio outside k8s? https://istio.io/latest/docs/ops/deployment/vm-architecture/ ? It would be nice to have service discovery features like load balancing and DNS without having to go to k8s or touch LVS
[20:53:37] <inflatador>	 I'm getting a linting failure on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/deployment-charts/+/1182206 , message is `could not find schema for OpenSearchCluster`...this is a CRD that isn't installed yet on dse-k8s. Will this problem fix itself when we install the CRDs to dse-k8s or is there something we need to add to CI testing?