[00:02:17] (03PS1) 10Arlolra: Stop running api testing on the parsoid repo [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802668 [00:02:55] (03CR) 10Arlolra: "Up for discussion" [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802668 (owner: 10Arlolra) [01:26:16] 10Phabricator: Remove phabricator admin role from oneself via GUI not working - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T271188 (10Dylsss) It's from https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/phabricator/browse/wmf%252Fstable/src/applications/people/xaction/PhabricatorUserEmpowerTransaction.php$35. If the aim of this ta... [01:53:02] 10Phabricator, 10User-DannyS712: Exception - Testing for capability "interact" on an object ("PhabricatorBadgesBadge") which does not support that capability. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T270696 (10Dylsss) 05Openβ†’03Resolved Seems this is no longer reproducible: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/bad... [02:01:53] 10Phabricator, 10Security: Streamline process for uploading private files to public tasks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181317 (10Dylsss) https://secure.phabricator.com/w/changelog/2022.21/ essentially resolves this as attachment behavior is changed so that files are only attached when you drag a file i... [04:42:06] 10Phabricator: Rename account Tranve to Diskdance on Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309831 (10Tranve) [04:42:38] 10Phabricator: Rename account Tranve to Diskdance on Phabricator - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309831 (10Tranve) [07:33:01] 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10Scap, 10SRE, 10serviceops: Deploy Scap version 4.8.2 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309116 (10JMeybohm) Deployed to canaries, scap pull looks fine [07:42:37] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10MediaWiki-General, 10translatewiki.net, 10Documentation, and 2 others: Formally EOL REL1_36 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307531 (10Reedy) [07:44:13] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Next), 10Scap, 10Patch-For-Review: New scap install-world command for self-deploy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307081 (10jnuche) 05In progressβ†’03Resolved [07:44:15] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Priority Backlog πŸ“₯), 10Scap, 10Infrastructure-Foundations, 10serviceops: Use scap to deploy itself to scap targets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T303559 (10jnuche) [07:47:14] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10LibUp, 10MediaWiki-General, 10translatewiki.net, and 3 others: Formally EOL REL1_36 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307531 (10Reedy) [08:01:33] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10LibUp, 10MediaWiki-General, 10translatewiki.net, and 3 others: Formally EOL REL1_36 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307531 (10Reedy) [08:05:16] (03PS1) 10Reedy: Drop CI for MW 1.36 [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802728 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307531) [08:07:00] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10LibUp, 10MediaWiki-General, 10translatewiki.net, and 3 others: Formally EOL REL1_36 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307531 (10Reedy) 05Openβ†’03In progress [08:41:06] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: "Why would you not want to run api tests here? There is an extensive test suite in Parsoid.js, wouldn't you want that to run in CI?" [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802668 (owner: 10Arlolra) [08:47:17] duesen: if you are around, I have passed `shellcheck` against your `git-hooks/pre-commit-phpcs` script in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/tools/code-utils/+/799274/ :] [08:47:58] it fixes a few corner case oddities which are probably not important but cause `shellcheck` to complain and I would like to enable a CI job that enforces it [08:48:21] if you can test the resulting change at some point and report back / +1 / +2 that would be great [08:49:35] 10Gerrit, 10SRE: Icinga Check SSL might have a time based race condition - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308908 (10hashar) 05Openβ†’03Resolved a:03dancy @dancy solved it by restarting Apache2. The root cause is somewhere in Apache 2 and is tracked by T293826 [08:49:37] (03PS2) 10Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE): Update Wikibase section [integration/docroot] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802138 [08:49:47] (03CR) 10Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE): Update Wikibase section (032 comments) [integration/docroot] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802138 (owner: 10Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)) [08:51:32] 10GitLab (Infrastructure), 10serviceops, 10Patch-For-Review: bring new gitlab hardware servers into production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307142 (10Jelto) >>! In T307142#7976964, @Jelto wrote: > ... > I'll check bacula tomorrow for new backups of `gitlab1004` and make sure the replicas synced prope... [08:52:02] 10GitLab (Infrastructure), 10serviceops, 10Patch-For-Review: bring new gitlab hardware servers into production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307142 (10Jelto) [09:09:39] (03CR) 10Dan Shick: [C: 03+1] "LGTM" [integration/docroot] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802138 (owner: 10Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)) [09:14:53] (03CR) 10Jakob: [C: 03+1] Update Wikibase section [integration/docroot] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802138 (owner: 10Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)) [09:24:35] 10Gerrit: Gerrit user search can't find some people by name, only by email - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308408 (10hashar) 05Openβ†’03Declined That is mostly due to account in Gerrit being the Wikitech account (which is the `cn` field in LDAP) T113792 has a lot of details about it. A search in Gerrit f... [09:43:08] 10Gerrit: Gerrit attributed my comments to jenkins-bot - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308369 (10hashar) The whole history of comments is stored directly in git and can be retrieved and browsed using: ` cd mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor git fetch origin refs/changes/04/763604/meta git log -p FETCH_HEAD `... [09:53:08] 10Gerrit: Gerrit attributed my comments to jenkins-bot - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308369 (10hashar) My guess is the issue comes from `polygerrit-ui/app/elements/change/gr-messages-list/gr-messages-list.ts` probably somewhere in `_computeCombinedMessages` which seems to compare date strictly with `<` an... [09:56:01] 10Gerrit: Gerrit attributed my comments to jenkins-bot - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308369 (10hashar) p:05Triageβ†’03Low [10:03:51] 10Gerrit, 10Upstream: Gerrit's New UI reply dialog ignores Ctrl-Z - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T192666 (10hashar) p:05Triageβ†’03Low [10:59:47] (03Restored) 10Matthias Mullie: Prepare for production deployment of ImageSuggestions [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766605 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [10:59:53] (03PS2) 10Matthias Mullie: Prepare for production deployment of ImageSuggestions [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766605 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) [11:00:59] (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: "This extension is planned to be deployed in production within the next couple of weeks. This should be good to go." [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766605 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [11:04:19] (03Restored) 10Matthias Mullie: Add ImageSuggestions to make-release [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [11:04:59] (03PS2) 10Matthias Mullie: Start branching ImageSuggestions for Wikimedia production [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) [11:06:56] (03PS3) 10Matthias Mullie: Start branching ImageSuggestions for Wikimedia production [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) [11:11:37] (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: "Initial code (simple Echo notification config & a script to generate one) is ready; we would like to start branching this ASAP." [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [11:15:38] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] "Consider I6d7db6a05c48de8a57f83e4c8af38ab50271297a instead" [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802668 (owner: 10Arlolra) [11:38:07] jnuche: I got a link for you! :] [11:38:32] the teaser is ""made a rather elaborate Bazel and Kubernetes setup to cleanly and deterministically deploy the mess that Jenkins is""" [11:39:00] they wrote bunch of stuff at https://github.com/monogon-dev/infralib/tree/main/k8s/apps/jenkins [11:39:04] hashar: lol, sound interesting, send it my way :) [11:39:42] and somehow had to write their own plugin resolver https://github.com/monogon-dev/infralib/tree/main/k8s/apps/jenkins/build/plugingen .. [11:39:56] maybe Jenkins as Code solves the issues they encountered [11:40:35] their integration with the Gerrit Jenkins plugins is a few line of code and a few hundred of comments https://github.com/monogon-dev/infralib/blob/298901482ec25193e32e5c37fa42bad833024008/k8s/apps/jenkins/components/config.cue#L77 :] [11:40:56] anyway,I got that from a blog post "Gerrit usability complaints" https://monogon.ghost.io/p/8656fe63-50aa-421c-8fb0-66062e0562da/ [11:41:20] hehehe, I'll read through all that, thanks! [11:41:50] 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata-Termbox, 10wdwb-tech, and 3 others: Move Termbox SSR for Beta Wikidata into deployment-prep project - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T304328 (10ItamarWMDE) >>! In T304328#7973292, @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote: > > I don’t think that’s what it actua... [12:15:26] jnuche: a few months ago I also seen an interesting rant about having `git push ` to automatically craft changes for you instead of being forced to use `refs/for/` [12:15:39] UX is a long tail of glitches to fix :D [12:21:56] β€œonly to realize that the only documentation is a random GitHub gist which is also incomplete, missing some allowed markup like ```.” – to be fair, isn’t ``` fairly new? [12:22:16] (in Gerrit 3.4 IIRC?) [12:38:41] (03PS1) 10Jaime Nuche: install-world: add batch mode [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 [12:41:08] (03PS2) 10Jaime Nuche: install-world: add batch mode [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 [12:41:50] (03PS3) 10Jaime Nuche: install-world: add batch mode [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 [12:45:12] (03PS4) 10Jaime Nuche: install-world: add batch mode [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309713) [12:46:15] Lucas_WMDE: the gerrit comment format is not really documented, or at least it is not discoverable when filing a comment [12:46:26] I think I have seen some discussion about supporting a stripped version of markdown [12:48:36] (03CR) 10RhinosF1: install-world: add batch mode (031 comment) [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309713) (owner: 10Jaime Nuche) [12:52:16] (03PS5) 10Jaime Nuche: install-world: add batch mode [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309713) [12:53:02] (03CR) 10Jaime Nuche: install-world: add batch mode (031 comment) [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309713) (owner: 10Jaime Nuche) [12:57:49] Thanks jnuche [12:59:12] RhinosF1: thanks for the comment :) [12:59:45] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10WMF-General-or-Unknown: Tidy up references to REL1_36 now it is EOL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309864 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [13:03:01] (03PS1) 10Jforrester: layout/jjb: REL1_34 is EOL, remove CI [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802771 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309864) [13:04:52] (03CR) 10CI reject: [V: 04-1] layout/jjb: REL1_34 is EOL, remove CI [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802771 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309864) (owner: 10Jforrester) [13:11:39] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: layout/jjb: REL1_36 is EOL, remove CI [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802771 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309864) [14:19:35] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Seen), 10Gerrit (Gerrit 3.6): Upgrade to Gerrit 3.6 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309870 (10hashar) [15:07:28] 10GitLab (Infrastructure), 10Data-Persistence-Backup, 10serviceops, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-brennen: Backups for GitLab - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274463 (10Jelto) After migrating to new hosts (T307142) we got a bacula alert about backups on `gitlab1001` (the old production machine): ` PROB... [15:12:51] 10GitLab (Infrastructure), 10serviceops, 10Patch-For-Review: bring new gitlab hardware servers into production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307142 (10Jelto) >>! In T307142#7978386, @Jelto wrote: > ... > One rsync job failed on the old production host `gitlab1001`. I'll take a closer look. I assume th... [15:22:50] 10Project-Admins: Requests for addition to the #acl*Project-Admins group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706 (10NHillard-WMF) Hello - I recently joined as an Engineering Manager with the Design Systems Team, and I am looking to help organize and clean up our board and sub-boards. I would like... [15:25:22] (03CR) 10Ahmon Dancy: [C: 03+2] "I have comments but none are blockers." [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309713) (owner: 10Jaime Nuche) [15:27:02] 10Project-Admins: Requests for addition to the #acl*Project-Admins group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706 (10Ladsgroup) @NHillard-WMF: Hi, I've added you. //Usual disclaimer: Please follow [guidelines](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Creating_and_renaming_projects#Creating_new_pr... [15:28:39] (03CR) 10Jaime Nuche: [C: 04-1] install-world: add batch mode [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309713) (owner: 10Jaime Nuche) [15:28:58] (03CR) 10Jaime Nuche: [C: 04-2] install-world: add batch mode [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309713) (owner: 10Jaime Nuche) [15:30:18] (03CR) 10Arlolra: Stop running api testing on the parsoid repo (031 comment) [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802668 (owner: 10Arlolra) [15:30:41] 10GitLab (Infrastructure), 10Data-Persistence-Backup, 10serviceops, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-brennen: Backups for GitLab - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274463 (10jcrespo) Bacula is now happy: `Fresh: 116 jobs` Note on first setup, the backup check is quite sensitive, so anything that is not a su... [15:46:28] (03PS6) 10Jaime Nuche: install-world: add batch mode [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309713) [15:46:44] (03CR) 10Jaime Nuche: install-world: add batch mode (034 comments) [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309713) (owner: 10Jaime Nuche) [15:51:05] (03CR) 10Jaime Nuche: [C: 03+2] install-world: add batch mode [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309713) (owner: 10Jaime Nuche) [15:55:18] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: install-world: add batch mode [tools/scap] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802767 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309713) (owner: 10Jaime Nuche) [16:21:33] 10Project-Admins: Requests for addition to the #acl*Project-Admins group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706 (10NHillard-WMF) Thanks @Ladsgroup ! Do these permissions take some time to propagate? I might also need some sort of additional permissions. Just now I went over to https://phabric... [16:23:00] PROBLEM - Check systemd state on doc1001 is CRITICAL: CRITICAL - degraded: The following units failed: rsync-doc-doc2001.codfw.wmnet.service https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Monitoring/check_systemd_state [16:26:13] 10Project-Admins: Requests for addition to the #acl*Project-Admins group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706 (10Ladsgroup) You were not a member to #trusted-contributors group and now I added you there too. Can you try again? [16:35:41] James_F: Reedy: should I merge those REL1_36 CI changes, or is that for later? [16:46:47] hashar: Now is good. I was out at the doctor's so didn't want to merge and run, but I'm back now. [16:46:59] pair time! :D [16:47:37] Sam has send another one earlier https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/integration/config/+/802728 [16:48:23] and there are two different tasks :D [16:49:46] I am not sure what is the purpose of the sub task T309864 , isn't it easier to attach everything to the EOL task T307531 ? [16:49:46] T307531: Formally EOL REL1_36 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307531 [16:49:46] T309864: Tidy up references to REL1_36 now it is EOL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309864 [16:52:17] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10WMF-General-or-Unknown, 10Patch-For-Review: Tidy up references to REL1_36 now it is EOL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309864 (10bd808) [16:52:24] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10LibUp, 10MediaWiki-General, 10translatewiki.net, and 3 others: Formally EOL REL1_36 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307531 (10bd808) [16:53:58] (03CR) 10Zabe: [C: 03+2] "Per T277690#7406650 it doesn't need a sec review, so everything necessary for starting to branch per https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writin" [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [16:54:06] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 03+2] "Jobs updated" [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802728 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307531) (owner: 10Reedy) [16:55:15] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Start branching ImageSuggestions for Wikimedia production [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [16:56:31] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Drop CI for MW 1.36 [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802728 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307531) (owner: 10Reedy) [16:58:20] (03PS3) 10Hashar: Remove reference to EOL REL1_36 branch [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802771 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309864) (owner: 10Jforrester) [17:02:43] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Start branching ImageSuggestions for Wikimedia production (031 comment) [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [17:04:11] (03CR) 10Jforrester: Prepare for production deployment of ImageSuggestions (031 comment) [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766605 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [17:18:50] RECOVERY - Check systemd state on doc1001 is OK: OK - running: The system is fully operational https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Monitoring/check_systemd_state [17:37:10] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 03+2] Remove reference to EOL REL1_36 branch [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802771 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309864) (owner: 10Jforrester) [17:39:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove reference to EOL REL1_36 branch [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802771 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309864) (owner: 10Jforrester) [17:41:35] (03CR) 10Jforrester: "Risky-patch notice posted: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308068#7979532" [tools/release] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766613 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [17:41:46] 10Release-Engineering-Team (Priority Backlog πŸ“₯), 10Release, 10Train Deployments: 1.39.0-wmf.15 deployment blockers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308068 (10Jdforrester-WMF) ##### Risky Patch! πŸš‚πŸ”₯ * **Change**: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/tools/release/+/766613 * **Summary**: Novel exte... [17:59:08] The doc machines have been ready to switch for a long time as stated on the ticket. The only blocker has been that it needed your ok. It doesn't seem fair to make Jelto do that now and go through realtime IRC pings after it's been waiting on the ticket for such a long time. I would prefer to do that via the regular async tools and schedule it via a calendar invite, please. [18:21:42] (03CR) 10Daniel Kinzler: [C: 04-1] Stop running api testing on the parsoid repo (031 comment) [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802668 (owner: 10Arlolra) [18:29:38] (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: Prepare for production deployment of ImageSuggestions (031 comment) [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/766605 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302711) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [19:04:58] (03CR) 10Arlolra: Stop running api testing on the parsoid repo (031 comment) [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/802668 (owner: 10Arlolra) [19:08:07] hashar: Oh, didn't see Reedy's patch/task. Previously we've had the "process" task (declare EOL, send e-mail) for the Release side and the "clean up" task (MW config, CI config, docs, etc.) for everything else. [19:09:40] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10WMF-General-or-Unknown, 10Patch-For-Review: Tidy up references to REL1_36 now it is EOL - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309864 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:10:41] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 10LibUp, 10MediaWiki-General, 10translatewiki.net, and 3 others: Formally EOL REL1_36 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T307531 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05In progressβ†’03Resolved a:03Reedy [19:32:42] 10Phabricator (Upstream), 10Upstream: Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120042 (10Aklapper) Hi, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Code [19:44:49] 10Phabricator (Upstream), 10Upstream: Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120042 (10MBinder_WMF) Added a ticket: https://we.phorge.it/T15100 :) [19:54:28] 10Project-Admins: Requests for addition to the #acl*Project-Admins group (in comments) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T706 (10NHillard-WMF) Awesome, that worked - thanks @Ladsgroup ! [19:56:36] 10Phabricator (Upstream), 10Upstream: Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120042 (10MBinder_WMF) In the meantime, I wonder how hard it would be to replace //our// Phab instance functionality with th... [20:11:12] James_F: ahh split stuff yeah makes sense probably :] I have merged and deployed both your changes [20:11:19] two less pipelines in Zuul! [20:11:30] I saw. Thank you! [20:11:34] Indeed. [20:25:57] hashar: I think the order of steps can be dns last, since new server gets synced to from old server hourly, right? [20:26:08] so we can start from the outside inward, switching traffic [20:26:16] unless.. they both use hte same discovery name [20:26:18] right they do [20:26:20] nvm [20:26:45] so it's only the dns change then, and literally nothing else? [20:27:22] logically we have: 1) public web server routing, 2) what we publish to from CI primary