[00:05:50] 10Phabricator, 07PM: Decrease issues created many years ago with no recent activity (aka stale tickets) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248034#11769346 (10Pppery) The problem is that blindly abandoning patches misses cases where the author is still receptive to reviews but nobody cares to review. I have s... [00:08:24] 10Phabricator, 07PM: Decrease issues created many years ago with no recent activity (aka stale tickets) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248034#11769353 (10Izno) Since there's another task now for old changes, I'd suggest keeping that discussion over there. [00:13:08] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 06Release-Engineering-Team (Priority Backlog 📥), 10Browser Test Platform, 10MediaWiki-Core-Tests, and 9 others: Reduce runtime of MW shared gate Jenkins jobs to 5 min - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225730#11769391 (10Pppery) [00:35:57] 10Phabricator, 07PM: Decrease issues created many years ago with no recent activity (aka stale tickets) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248034#11769473 (10Bugreporter) The most important issue is tasks may have complex dependency relations and it is not meaningful to close individual task as stale if a pa... [01:41:49] 10Gerrit, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06collaboration-services: Automatically abandon old changes after some time - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T393376#11769738 (10Quiddity) Just noting for the record: The changes have all been restored, and a brief explanation and apology added to the mailing-list thr... [02:27:24] 10Scap (Scap3-MediaWiki-MVP), 14scap2, 10MediaWiki-Action-API, 06MW-Interfaces-Team, and 3 others: Create a script to run test requests for the MediaWiki service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136839#11769969 (10Pppery) [03:22:51] (03PS2) 10Phedenskog: selenium: Add run selenium test plan [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249093 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) [03:24:58] (03PS4) 10Phedenskog: browser-tests: Skip extra npm install for core tests [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) [03:40:16] (03PS11) 10Phedenskog: browser-tests: Output project name in log instead of file paths. [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1264371 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421676) [03:40:36] (03PS5) 10Phedenskog: browser-tests: Skip composer dev-requires for browser test only jobs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1262148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421500) [03:49:55] (03PS1) 10Tim Starling: Scribunto phan will depend on Produnto for runtime service [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1264928 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T412181) [03:55:17] Project mediawiki-core-doxygen build #19136: 04FAILURE in 2 min 1 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mediawiki-core-doxygen/19136/ [04:31:39] Yippee, build fixed! [04:31:39] Project mediawiki-core-doxygen build #19137: 09FIXED in 13 min: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mediawiki-core-doxygen/19137/ [07:50:07] 06Release-Engineering-Team (Priority Backlog 📥), 07Essential-Work, 05Release, 05Train Deployments: 1.46.0-wmf.22 deployment blockers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T420480#11770733 (10jnuche) [08:06:41] 10Gerrit: Investigate /changes/conflicts.* Gerrit REST API timing out - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421831 (10hashar) 03NEW [08:07:08] 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06collaboration-services: Daily mediawiki-core-phpmetrics job broken since March 26, 2026 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421736#11770805 (10ABran-WMF) [08:07:11] 10Gerrit, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06collaboration-services, 06Traffic: gerrit: Adapt timeouts to avoid 502 errors in CI jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421827#11770806 (10ABran-WMF) [08:26:06] Yippee, build fixed! [08:26:06] Project mediawiki-core-phpmetrics build #705: 09FIXED in 5 min 2 sec: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mediawiki-core-phpmetrics/705/ [08:29:19] 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06collaboration-services: Daily mediawiki-core-phpmetrics job broken since March 26, 2026 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421736#11770906 (10ABran-WMF) 05Open→03In progress p:05Triage→03High @dancy I've updated [[ https://gerri... [08:33:23] 10Gerrit, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06collaboration-services, 06Traffic, 13Patch-For-Review: gerrit: Adapt timeouts to avoid 502 errors in CI jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421827#11770925 (10ABran-WMF) after merging [[ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265322 | that config ]] change, [[ https... [08:37:22] 10Gerrit, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 14Release-Engineering-Team-TODO (2020-04 to 2020-06 (Q4)), 06collaboration-services, and 2 others: Jenkins job failing intermittently due to Gerrit HTTP 502 errors when interacting with repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246763#11770948 (10ABran-WMF) follow up... [09:01:46] (03CR) 10Phedenskog: docker: Add developer docker file and README (031 comment) [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1258947 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419583) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [09:03:25] (03PS4) 10Phedenskog: docker: Add developer docker file and README [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1258947 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419583) [10:07:12] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C:03+2] selenium: Add run selenium test plan [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249093 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [10:08:41] 10Phabricator-Bot-Requests, 06Release-Engineering-Team (Doing 😎), 06Product Safety and Integrity, 06Security-Team: Create a Mailing list account to replace Slack_connector_for_TSP_team_triage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421406#11771631 (10Aklapper) 05Open→03Resolved * I created @Slack_conn... [10:12:06] 10Phabricator-Bot-Requests, 06Release-Engineering-Team (Doing 😎), 06Product Safety and Integrity, 06Security-Team: Create a Mailing list account to replace Slack_connector_for_PSI_team_triage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421406#11771637 (10Aklapper) [10:12:44] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: selenium: Add run selenium test plan [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249093 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [10:26:04] 10Phabricator, 06Release-Engineering-Team (Doing 😎), 05acl*Batch-Editors: Add Gopavasanth to Triagers group - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421855#11771719 (10Aklapper) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Aklapper Oh yes! Added. [10:32:20] (03PS1) 10Hashar: Add test plan for --commands [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265384 [10:34:32] (03PS5) 10Phedenskog: browser-tests: Skip extra npm install for core tests [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) [10:38:59] (03CR) 10Hashar: "When using an user command (`quibble -c`) or dropping in an interactive shell (`quibble --shell`) I think we want npm to have been instal" [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [10:40:50] (03CR) 10Hashar: "`quibble -c true` (or `quibble --shell`) should run npm install, at least that is the behavior I would expect. This change adds the test " [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265384 (owner: 10Hashar) [11:19:34] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 06Test Platform (Črnomerec 24): Add devcontainer to integration/config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249#11771992 (10zeljkofilipin) [11:26:11] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 06Test Platform (Črnomerec 24): Add devcontainer to integration/config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249#11772026 (10zeljkofilipin) [11:27:08] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 06Test Platform (Črnomerec 24): Add devcontainer to integration/config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249#11772029 (10zeljkofilipin) [11:27:16] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 06Test Platform (Črnomerec 24): Add devcontainer to integration/config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249#11772031 (10zeljkofilipin) [11:57:27] 10Gerrit: Investigate /changes/conflicts.* Gerrit REST API timing out - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421831#11772150 (10A_smart_kitten) I guess one immediate question I have is -- are other Gerrit instances on the internet dealing / have any other instances dealt with a similar problem? (How does Wikimedia... [12:03:15] 10Gerrit, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06collaboration-services: Automatically abandon old changes after some time - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T393376#11772203 (10cscott) Some suggestions for reducing load: 1. If possible, add a new state that exempts patches from this merge conflict testing. You cou... [12:19:28] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 06Test Platform (Črnomerec 24): Add devcontainer to integration/config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249#11772277 (10zeljkofilipin) [12:21:36] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 06Test Platform (Črnomerec 24): Add devcontainer to integration/config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249#11772284 (10zeljkofilipin) Following instructions at [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Continuous_integration/Jenkins_job_builder#Install_JJB | Install JJB ]], I g... [12:25:43] 10Phabricator (Upstream), 07Upstream: Be able to turn off account approval email - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T420144#11772295 (10Aklapper) Currently this is handled via `PhabricatorAuthRegisterController::sendWaitingForApprovalEmail()` if we ever wanted to comment that stuff [12:25:53] 10Phabricator (Upstream), 07Upstream: Be able to turn off account approval email - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T420144#11772296 (10Aklapper) p:05Triage→03Low [12:30:58] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 06Test Platform (Črnomerec 24): Add devcontainer to integration/config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249#11772329 (10zeljkofilipin) With the devcontainer, everything works: ` nobody@8cc102d2853e:/workspaces/config$ ./jenkins-jobs --version Jenkins Job Builder version... [12:32:28] 10Phabricator maintenance bot, 06Abstract Wikipedia team (26Q3 (Jan–Mar)), 07Regression: The @Maintenance_bot rule to tag the Abstract Wikipedia team is tagging the (umbrella/component) Abstract Wikipedia project, following its creation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421585#11772332 (10A_smart_kitten)... [12:34:37] (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Add devcontainer.json [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249) [12:36:10] (03CR) 10CI reject: [V:04-1] Add devcontainer.json [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [12:41:52] (03PS3) 10Hashar: build: pass CI environment variable to tox envs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1259110 [12:41:52] (03CR) 10Hashar: "This will cause tox on CI to show the whole diff when an assertion fails . That can be seen on the child change `add test plan for --shell" [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1259110 (owner: 10Hashar) [12:42:46] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 13Patch-For-Review, 06Test Platform (Črnomerec 24): Add devcontainer to integration/config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249#11772411 (10zeljkofilipin) [12:43:16] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 13Patch-For-Review, 06Test Platform (Črnomerec 24): Add devcontainer to integration/config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249#11772412 (10zeljkofilipin) [12:44:35] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 13Patch-For-Review, 06Test Platform (Črnomerec 24): Add devcontainer to integration/config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249#11772428 (10zeljkofilipin) With the devcontainer, `jjb-test` works: ` nobody@3a4862c92c6e:/workspaces/config$ ./jjb-test -o output/ WARNING:... [12:46:47] (03PS2) 10Zfilipin: Add devcontainer.json [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249) [12:47:23] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "PS2 is a minor commit message update, trying to fix GerritMessageValidator error." [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [12:48:24] (03CR) 10CI reject: [V:04-1] Add devcontainer.json [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [13:07:56] (03PS3) 10Hashar: Add test plan for --shell [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265385 [13:07:57] (03PS1) 10Hashar: Have --shell set commands when parsing arguments [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265417 [13:10:14] (03PS2) 10Phedenskog: Add test plan for --commands [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265384 (owner: 10Hashar) [13:22:39] (03CR) 10Phedenskog: [C:03+2] Add test plan for --commands [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265384 (owner: 10Hashar) [13:24:16] (03CR) 10Phedenskog: [C:03+2] build: pass CI environment variable to tox envs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1259110 (owner: 10Hashar) [13:25:12] (03open) 10aokoth: projects: add new project -> T414405 [repos/releng/gitlab-trusted-runner] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/gitlab-trusted-runner/-/merge_requests/161 [13:25:12] hashar: on a proxy-related note, I wonder if it would be possible to raise the timeout limit a bit for the Gitiles pages? I have often used Gitiles' `git blame` for looking through the history of (e.g.) `mediawiki-config`, and those pages often take a while to load [13:25:20] I guess there probably isn't much that can be done about how long a `git blame` take to load, but now e.g. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/operations/mediawiki-config/+blame/a94afa96e12da71ac216a2e3cd5ac54b939ad719/wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php times out (with a "Proxy Error") when it didn't until recently [13:25:26] (lmk if you want me to file a task!) [13:27:10] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add test plan for --commands [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265384 (owner: 10Hashar) [13:28:04] (FWIW, there was also a message in #mediawiki earlier re `git fetch origin --prune --prune-tags --tags` apparently failing with 502s) [13:29:00] 10Phabricator maintenance bot, 06Abstract Wikipedia team (26Q3 (Jan–Mar)), 07Regression: The @Maintenance_bot rule to tag the Abstract Wikipedia team is tagging the (umbrella/component) Abstract Wikipedia project, following its creation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421585#11772718 (10DSantamaria)... [13:30:07] 06Project-Admins: Create project tag for Abstract Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421670#11772736 (10DSantamaria) Is everything ok? We are about to start using those tags if no one has anything to say against them. [13:59:44] (03PS4) 10Hashar: build: pass CI environment variable to tox envs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1259110 [14:01:51] (03PS2) 10Hashar: Have --shell set commands when parsing arguments [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265417 [14:01:59] (03PS4) 10Hashar: Add test plan for --shell [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265385 [14:03:02] 10Gerrit, 06collaboration-services: Some Gitiles `git blame` URLs now return a "Proxy Error" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421904 (10A_smart_kitten) 03NEW [14:03:16] ^ I filed that regarding my question above [14:03:43] 06Project-Admins: Create project tag for Abstract Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421670#11773007 (10Aklapper) I don't see any issues, makes sense to me (plus this a blue project tag anyway) :) [14:04:57] 10Gerrit, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06collaboration-services: Some Gitiles `git blame` URLs now return a "Proxy Error" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421904#11773010 (10ABran-WMF) [14:10:57] (03CR) 10Phedenskog: build: pass CI environment variable to tox envs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1259110 (owner: 10Hashar) [14:11:04] (03CR) 10Phedenskog: [C:03+2] build: pass CI environment variable to tox envs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1259110 (owner: 10Hashar) [14:13:46] 10Gerrit, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06collaboration-services: Some Gitiles `git blame` URLs now return a "Proxy Error" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421904#11773072 (10ABran-WMF) a:03ABran-WMF I think @hashar had some ideas about this, it was partly discussed in {T419714}. It seems Gerrit takes... [14:17:42] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: build: pass CI environment variable to tox envs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1259110 (owner: 10Hashar) [14:21:43] (03PS3) 10Hashar: Add devcontainer.json [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [14:22:56] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C:03+1] "`tox -e lint` fails because of EditorConfig, it defaults to 4 spaces for indentation and the json file you introduce uses 2 spaces. Give" [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [14:23:57] (03CR) 10Phedenskog: "Maybe just remove the readme for now and get the Dockerfile in the repo? The Dockerfile helps me so much when I want to try things locally" [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1258947 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419583) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [14:24:34] (03PS12) 10Phedenskog: browser-tests: Output project name in log instead of file paths. [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1264371 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421676) [14:28:30] (03PS6) 10Phedenskog: browser-tests: Skip extra npm install for core tests [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) [14:30:03] (03PS6) 10Phedenskog: browser-tests: Skip composer dev-requires for browser test only jobs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1262148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421500) [14:31:25] (03CR) 10CI reject: [V:04-1] browser-tests: Skip extra npm install for core tests [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [14:33:14] (03CR) 10CI reject: [V:04-1] browser-tests: Skip composer dev-requires for browser test only jobs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1262148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421500) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [14:33:36] hey folks, for some reason my team can't access this gerrit page anymore. i dont think we've changed any permissions. can someone please help us? please lmk if i can provide any more info [14:33:36] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/wikimedia/fundraising/analytics [14:33:49] we can access other pages, like for individual PRs in that repo [14:39:45] 10Phabricator-Bot-Requests, 06Release-Engineering-Team (Doing 😎), 06Product Safety and Integrity, 06Security-Team, 07SecTeam-Processed: Create a Mailing list account to replace Slack_connector_for_PSI_team_triage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421406#11773245 (10sbassett) [14:41:50] avishua: what _does_ happen? [14:42:16] oof, sorry- it just says `Request is not authorized` [14:43:13] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/admin/repos/wikimedia/fundraising/analytics,access has some rather strange "read" rules [14:44:36] seems that gitiles doesn't log you into your gerrit account [14:45:07] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/admin/repos/wikimedia/fundraising/analytics,access - can't be viewed logged out. And since you aren't logged into gerrit in gitiles, you are reading it anonymously and thus it fails. [14:46:36] i mean, i can't seem to even fetch the refs/meta/config branch due to those rules [14:47:04] ya, i try to log in from that gitiles page and it just returns me to the previous screen with the same error [14:58:01] 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06collaboration-services: Daily mediawiki-core-phpmetrics job broken since March 26, 2026 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421736#11773371 (10dancy) >>! In T421736#11770906, @ABran-WMF wrote: > @dancy I've updated [[ https://gerrit.wiki... [15:03:13] 10Gerrit, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06collaboration-services, 13Patch-For-Review: Some Gitiles `git blame` URLs now return a "Proxy Error" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421904#11773403 (10ABran-WMF) [[ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/1265448 | That change ]] should allow for a... [15:04:02] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: [C:03+1] "Thanks! I have tested the devcontainer locally, and it works. As far as I'm concerned, feel free to merge the patch." [integration/config] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265411 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421249) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [15:07:11] 10Continuous-Integration-Config, 07Epic, 07PHP 8.5 support: Make PHP 8.5 voting on development (master) branch of MW ecosystem (core, vendor, extensions, skins, libraries) in CI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411814#11773445 (10neriah) [15:10:54] (sorry, my irc bouncer was down over night, I don't have the backscroll for avishua's original ask, but...) What is the current recommendation to browse Gerrit repos after the recent change to block? gitiles? [15:11:00] cc hashar [15:11:38] greg-g: when logged-in in Gerrit it should work [15:12:19] avishua: if you are logged in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/ you should not have rate limitation when browsing Gitiles (even though Gitiles says you are not logged in) [15:12:35] hashar: I am logged in, but when I load eg https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/wikimedia/fundraising/analytics I get the "request not authorized" page [15:12:54] but some requests such as blame or log takes a while to generate and eventually result in a timeout [15:13:08] ah [15:13:16] We have a private repo :-\ [15:13:19] Interestingly, that url shows the "sign in" link, and when I click it and sign in it brings me back to the same page (same error) [15:13:26] yeah [15:13:40] all the gitiles traffic has been redirect to another host (the replica) [15:13:48] and that hosts does not have any knowledge about the user sessions [15:13:59] so all traffic it receives for gitiles is considered to be anonymous [15:14:12] so then how would logging in help? :) [15:14:15] and thus you don't have access to any repo that requires some privileges. [15:14:26] logging only helps to not be subject to the rate limiting [15:14:34] but it is not recognized by gitiles [15:14:44] I thought we did not have any private repos [15:15:13] (beside Gerrit internal repos such as All-Users / All-Projects, but that would only affects the handful of people having Administrators right) [15:15:47] avishua: I don't remember why that repo is private [15:16:34] (03PS8) 10Phedenskog: browser-tests: Skip composer dev-requires for browser test only jobs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1262148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421500) [15:19:04] hashar: so, what should we do? [15:26:45] (03open) 10kamila: Draft: Change base image to use ICU 72 [repos/releng/release] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/release/-/merge_requests/239 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419049 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421913) [15:27:53] greg-g: I'll see to have gitiles moved back to the primary instance so it has knowledge about user session and be able to grant view access [15:28:13] I don't want to force a bad architecture for you just because our repo is weird :/ [15:29:51] no worries, I anticipated it could eventually cause a trouble [15:30:19] I just assumed we no more any restricted repos beside Gerrit internal repos [15:32:08] yeah :/ [15:32:36] we're (FR-Tech and FR-Analytics) are going to talk about the privateness of that repo in our shared call today. I'll keep you updated after that (today or tomorrow) [15:33:23] 10Fresh, 10Gerrit: Wikimedia gerrit load management 429s break fresh-install - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421726#11773715 (10sbassett) This seems to be an issue with the [[ https://github.com/wikimedia/fresh/blob/1951be9f204c1c6e995065fac244e5564052bce6/bin/fresh-install#L129 | request call in fresh-in... [15:35:38] (03PS8) 10Phedenskog: browser-tests: Skip extra npm install for core tests [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) [15:42:56] avishua: greg-g: you haven't filed a task for that have you? If not I will file one [15:49:40] hashar: I don't believe we have, no. [15:56:19] greg-g: yeah no worries [15:56:33] I went to propose a change reverting to the previous situation [15:56:43] which was attached to another more or less related task [15:56:46] I think it is sufficient [15:57:20] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/1265465 [16:05:33] (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: doc: Move "Reproducing a CI build" to separate page [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265472 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418234) [16:11:06] 06Release-Engineering-Team (Priority Backlog 📥), 07Essential-Work, 05Release, 05Train Deployments: 1.46.0-wmf.22 deployment blockers - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T420480#11774033 (10Urbanecm_WMF) [17:41:14] (03merge) 10dduvall: policy: Use Rego policies instead of Go templates [repos/releng/jwt-authorizer] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/jwt-authorizer/-/merge_requests/22 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T346331) [17:46:12] thcipriani: dduvall apropos our chat in Lisbon: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=sbom [17:46:29] h/t to SomeRandomDeveloper [17:47:30] very nice [17:58:37] 10Gerrit: Investigate /changes/conflicts.* Gerrit REST API timing out - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421831#11774728 (10thcipriani) Note that it affects more than just repos with a large number of open changes. Looking at all the times we've had this problem in the past day or so (`sudo grep '502' /var/lo... [18:15:55] 10Gerrit: Investigate /changes/conflicts.* Gerrit REST API timing out - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421831#11774830 (10A_smart_kitten) Also noting that @cscott shared some ideas in T393376#11772203 that might be worth considering here: >>! In T393376#11772203, @cscott wrote: > Some suggestions for reduci... [19:46:15] (03approved) 10swfrench: Draft: Change base image to use ICU 72 [repos/releng/release] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/release/-/merge_requests/239 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419049 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421913) (owner: 10kamila) [19:49:17] dduvall: Thanks for the patch! [20:23:32] (03open) 10dancy: scap prep: Require clean git status in patches directory [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1110 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:23:37] (03update) 10dancy: scap prep: Require clean git status in patches directory [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1110 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:26:16] (03open) 10dancy: Drop scap patch subcommand [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:26:20] (03update) 10dancy: Drop scap patch subcommand [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:26:40] Amir1: of course! i ran grype against the sbom and got that error [20:26:49] *an* error [20:29:14] (03update) 10dancy: scap prep: Require clean git status in patches directory [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1110 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:29:22] (03update) 10dancy: Drop scap patch subcommand [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:31:55] (03update) 10dancy: Drop scap patch subcommand [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:32:54] (03update) 10dancy: scap prep: Require clean git status in patches directory [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1110 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:34:43] (03update) 10dancy: Drop scap patch subcommand [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:51:23] (03approved) 10brennen: scap prep: Require clean git status in patches directory [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1110 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) (owner: 10dancy) [20:51:54] (03merge) 10dancy: scap prep: Require clean git status in patches directory [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1110 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:52:24] (03approved) 10brennen: Drop scap patch subcommand [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) (owner: 10dancy) [20:52:39] (03update) 10dancy: Drop scap patch subcommand [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:54:32] (03merge) 10dancy: Drop scap patch subcommand [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1111 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421933) [20:57:14] (03open) 10dancy: Release 4.243.0 [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1112 [20:59:33] (03merge) 10dancy: Release 4.243.0 [repos/releng/scap] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/scap/-/merge_requests/1112 [21:14:09] 10Continuous-Integration-Infrastructure, 06Release-Engineering-Team, 06collaboration-services: Daily mediawiki-core-phpmetrics job broken since March 26, 2026 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421736#11775436 (10dancy) 05In progress→03Resolved a:03dancy The most recent automated run of https://i... [21:34:28] (03CR) 10Hashar: "Done with parent change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/integration/quibble/+/1265417" [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1265385 (owner: 10Hashar) [21:36:37] (03PS9) 10Hashar: browser-tests: Skip extra npm install for core tests [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [21:36:38] (03PS9) 10Hashar: browser-tests: Skip composer dev-requires for browser test only jobs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1262148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421500) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [21:36:50] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C:03+2] browser-tests: Skip extra npm install for core tests [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [21:36:55] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C:03+2] browser-tests: Skip composer dev-requires for browser test only jobs [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1262148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421500) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [21:43:50] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C:03+2] "To have related changes next to each other in the history, eg:" [integration/quibble] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1249226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418743) (owner: 10Phedenskog) [22:59:52] (03open) 10dduvall: policy: Avoid panics in rego.Data [repos/releng/jwt-authorizer] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/jwt-authorizer/-/merge_requests/23 [23:05:21] (03update) 10dduvall: policy: Avoid panics in rego.Data [repos/releng/jwt-authorizer] - 10https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/releng/jwt-authorizer/-/merge_requests/23 [23:48:55] 10Phabricator, 06Release-Engineering-Team: Phabricator "estimated points remaining" custom field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421974 (10thcipriani) 03NEW [23:51:09] 10Phabricator, 06Release-Engineering-Team: Phabricator "estimated points remaining" custom field - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421974#11775851 (10thcipriani) Discussed this with @Seddon and I can see the use-case. Tried my best to lay out the problems, potential work-arounds, pros and cons. @Seddon feel...