[01:18:20] What's the current advice for ad-hoc sending http requests to a mediawiki backend? I.e. curl to localhost-equivalent? [01:18:35] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Debugging_in_production#Directly [01:19:22] I assumed mw-experiment but I'm struggling to hit the server there. If I understand correctly, ssh goes to the k8s worker, which has the /srv/mediawiki mount, but php isn't installed there. [01:19:48] Come to think of it, I guess that means mw-experiment currently does not allow ad-hoc modifying of maintenance scripts, only web code? [01:20:08] I haven't yet needed to run mwscript there but assumed I could, but realizing now that is wrong. [01:21:46] interesting, ps does show the php-fpm processes, so that's presumably looking at the container's processes. [01:22:20] following the trail from mwdebug routing, looks like port 4456 works. [01:23:04] `curl -I 'https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Berry' --connect-to ::$HOSTNAME:4456` [01:24:15] That port is very specific to mw-experimental, but I suppose in practice one is not likely to do that elsewhere, so maybe that can just become part of the documented examples without needing to understand/know how to obtain that number.