[15:54:04] <lucaswerkmeister>	 I have a best practice question for editing highly used templates
[15:54:24] <lucaswerkmeister>	 in https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0&diff=prev&oldid=954378764, I made the template directly call a Lua module, skipping an intermediate template
[15:54:36] <lucaswerkmeister>	 this should eventually remove some ten million rows from the templatelinks table (cc Amir1)
[15:54:50] <lucaswerkmeister>	 but first all those pages need to be updated, and that takes a while…
[15:55:13] <lucaswerkmeister>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=hastemplate%3ACc-by-sa-3.0+-hastemplate%3A%22SDC+statement+has+value%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&ns100=1&ns106=1 suggests that only a bit over 100k pages were updated so far, in the almost three days since the edit
[15:55:34] <lucaswerkmeister>	 so at that rate we’re looking at the better part of a year for all the link updates to go through
[15:55:43] <lucaswerkmeister>	 but we still want to make an equivalent edit to several other license templates
[15:55:53] <bawolff>	 I would expect searchindex and templatelinks might not update at the same time
[15:56:28] <lucaswerkmeister>	 true, but I don’t think it’ll be that much behind templatelinks
[15:57:01] <lucaswerkmeister>	 and it seems to be one of the better options available AFAICT – Special:MostTranscludedPages hasn’t been updated since July
[15:57:29] <bawolff>	 Also, i wouldn't neccessarily assume that the job process rate is linear, like the job queue spawns jobs that spawn other jobs to subdivide the range
[15:57:29] <lucaswerkmeister>	 my question is, should we go ahead with the other templates, or wait for the link updates to go through even if they take months?
[15:58:05] <bawolff>	 quarry would probably be the most accurate way to get a count, but you are probably right that it would be surprising if there was a significant difference
[16:00:05] <lucaswerkmeister>	 yeah, it feels like it would be a relatively expensive quarry (I think it would need a self-join?)
[16:00:13] <lucaswerkmeister>	 though maybe still within 30 minutes. I haven’t actually tried it
[16:02:22] <bawolff>	 Now that I've forced the convo off topic, i should admit i don't know for your actual question. I would lean to just making the edits though, job queue has logic to do the refresh only once if multiple things needs to refresh the same page
[16:06:48] <lucaswerkmeister>	 that’s a good point
[16:07:08] <lucaswerkmeister>	 depends on how many files are dual-licensed with multiple CC templates, I guess ^^
[16:07:29] <lucaswerkmeister>	 I think I’ll lurk in here a while and see if anyone else responds, and otherwise start to go ahead with more edits. thanks :)
[16:07:33] <Krinkle>	 Upvote MathML in Interop 2025! https://github.com/web-platform-tests/interop/issues/787 
[18:01:07] <AntiComposite>	 lucaswerkmeister, multiple CC license tags aren't super common, it's mostly just weird derivative work situations. The vast vast majority of multiple-license files are CC-BY-SA-3.0/GFDL, after that probably CC-BY-SA-4.0 with a PD tag
[18:01:57] <AntiComposite>	 though there are 49515 usages of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_information , 'cause commons is big
[19:44:01] <lucaswerkmeister>	 AntiComposite: I kind of thought there would be dedicated templates for common multi-license files, actually
[19:44:09] <lucaswerkmeister>	 (I guess in a way there are, except they’re in the user namespace ^^ e.g. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ralf_Roletschek/Lizenz3)