[15:38:41] <Nemo_bis>	 Say I have reports of networking (latency) issues between an Italian ISP and Amsterdam, what dashboards would I use these days to check if Wikimedia users are affected?
[15:40:53] <Nemo_bis>	 Navigation Timing by country maybe? https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000232/navigation-timing-by-country?orgId=1&from=now-24h&to=now&timezone=utc&var-metric=navigationtiming_responsestart&var-quantile=95&var-skin=$__all&var-group=.%2A&var-geo_country=Italy&var-ua_family=.%2A 
[15:43:32] <Nemo_bis>	 Seeing this 95p stat over time might help https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000232/navigation-timing-by-country?orgId=1&from=now-2d&to=now&timezone=utc&var-metric=navigationtiming_loadeventend&var-quantile=95&var-skin=$__all&var-group=.%2A&var-geo_country=Italy&var-ua_family=.%2A&viewPanel=panel-12
[15:44:43] <Nemo_bis>	 Ah that's https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/loyspE24k/navigation-timing-breakdown?orgId=1&from=now-2d&to=now&timezone=utc&var-metric=navigationtiming_loadeventend&var-quantile=95&var-skin=$__all&var-group=$__all&var-geo_continent=$__all&var-geo_country=Italy&var-ua_family=$__all&viewPanel=panel-12
[15:49:15] <Nemo_bis>	 Is a p95 spike to 8 s significant? https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/loyspE24k/navigation-timing-breakdown?orgId=1&from=2025-12-17T18:53:56.461Z&to=2025-12-18T09:16:26.167Z&timezone=utc&var-metric=painttiming_firstcontentfulpaint&var-quantile=95&var-skin=$__all&var-group=$__all&var-geo_continent=$__all&var-geo_country=Italy&var-ua_family=Edge&viewPanel=panel-12
[17:01:25] <cdanis>	 Nemo_bis: the navtiming alerts are valuable (end-to-end, real user traffic), but also noisy
[17:01:31] <cdanis>	 we also have https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/43OLwO2Mk/cdanis-hacked-up-nel-stats?orgId=1&from=now-6h&to=now&timezone=utc&viewPanel=panel-4 Network Error Logging reports
[18:08:10] <Nemo_bis>	 cdanis: oh interesting! nothing unusual in there for Italy it seems