[14:29:46] Hmm… A usability issue, perhaps… The English label for Thursday has been overwritten with a Portuguese translation, with two additional aliases… can these be moved to Z1381 (to judge from the edit summary) or should I just revert the change? https://www.wikifunctions.org/w/index.php?title=Z17406&diff=125749&oldid=121207 [14:52:09] @vrandecic said that it would be very valuable for the project if we improve the sense graph. [14:52:10] That is the links from senses to qids. [14:52:11] I'm guessing that this mostly makes sense for non-phrases, because those are the lexemes used for language generation. [15:08:53] How would you define quality (if not just the amount of senses that are linked to an item)? (re @dpriskorn: @vrandecic said in the latest volunteers corner (around 13:00) that it would be very valuable for the project if we improve the ...) [15:10:12] And if you just want stats of the senses with links [[d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data/Statistics/sense relation counts]] is a good start [15:13:40] I would be thinking more in terms of the Wikidata items that have linked senses in some number of languages but have no linked sense in a target language. (re @Jan_ainali: How would you define quality (if not just the amount of senses that are linked to an item)?) [15:18:00] That's a good to-do list! It measures the gap more than the quality of the existing senses though. (re @Al: I would be thinking more in terms of the Wikidata items that have linked senses in some number of languages but have no linked s...) [15:20:34] [[Wikidata:Lexicographical data/How to help/Concepticon]] is a to-do list in a sense; although only about a quarter of concepts from the source database have been mapped thus far, there are still only 38.46% of the listed items linked to Swedish lexemes and 44.67% to Danish ones (re @Al: I would be thinking more in terms of the Wikidata items that have linked senses [15:20:34] in some numbe [15:20:35] r of languages but have no linked s...) [15:21:13] (should have been [[d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data/How to help/Concepticon]]) [15:24:38] That’s great, thanks! 🙏 (re @mahir256: [[d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data/How to help/Concepticon]] is a to-do list in a sense; although only about a quarter of concept...) [15:24:57] So imagine I want to work on adding senses with links for Esperanto. [15:24:58] What tool/user script/workflow would be best? (re @Jan_ainali: And if you just want stats of the senses with links [[d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data/Statistics/sense relation counts]] is a go...) [15:32:41] Looking at that list it seems like months, weekdays, numbers 1-10, etc are a good way to start. [15:32:43] Do we have a tool where I can input a query for items to work on the senses in a target language? (re @mahir256: [[d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data/How to help/Concepticon]] is a to-do list in a sense; although only about a quarter of concept...) [15:35:25] That was a fun list to work on :) (re @mahir256: [[d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data/How to help/Concepticon]] is a to-do list in a sense; although only about a quarter of concept...) [15:35:55] Here's an example for Swedish, just swap language: https://w.wiki/B6uM (re @dpriskorn: Looking at that list it seems like months, weekdays, numbers 1-10, etc are a good way to start. [15:35:56] Do we have a tool where I can in...) [15:37:00] there are slightly more readable lists per language linked from [[d:Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/How_to_help/Concepticon_(languages)]] (using @envlh's tool) (re @Jan_ainali: Here's an example for Swedish, just swap language: https://w.wiki/B6uM) [15:50:56] An even easier query to work from, those that likely already have a lexeme: https://qlever.cs.uni-freiburg.de/wikidata/Qc6GYR?exec=true (re @mahir256: there are slightly more readable lists per language linked from [[d:Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/How_to_help/Concepticon_(langu...) [18:58:33] I created Z18988, Z19009, and Z19011. [18:59:19] I will keep creating functions until a good representation of Arabic languages is there. [20:46:06] I created a subpage of my userpage in Wikifunctions with some statistics about number of descriptions and Labels. Regarding Alias there is a error or it is usually not Key Z2K4 what is used for it. This is something I need to check. https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/User:Hog%C3%BC-456/ZObject_language_statistics [20:55:41] @bgo_eiu showed me this brilliant thing when we met a few days ago. It has one of my favorite features of pretty much any software, especially one that involves my contribution as a volunteer who translates words and sentences: a progress indicator. I already made a few contributions using it, and I want to bring it to 100% for Hebrew. (re @mahir256: there are [20:55:41] slightly more reada [20:55:41] ble lists per language linked from [[d:Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/How_to_help/Concepticon_(langu...) [20:56:13] I'll have some questions about it, but I should probably do it in the Lexicographical data group. [21:10:46] Aliases are indeed in Z2K4, in a Z32 containing a list of Z31s (one Z31 per language). (re @hogue_456: I created a subpage of my userpage in Wikifunctions with some statistics about number of descriptions and Labels. Regarding Alia...) [21:11:51] This is good to know. I looked at the dump in source code view and I hope I will find a way how to extract Aliases. This will need some time. [21:16:05] It’s similar to Z12 and Z11, but a Z31 has a list of strings (the aliases) whereas a Z11 has a single string. (re @hogue_456: This is good to know. I looked at the dump in source code view and I hope I will find a way how to extract Aliases. This will ne...) [22:30:15] 6O5G [22:30:31] 6056