[05:50:01] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> @mahir256 I tried out elemwala today. I cannot get it to render "cat eats fish" in bokmål.This is what I tried : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/b34ef3e0/file_65867.jpg
[05:50:34] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Did functions for Wikidata querying update lately
[05:51:31] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> 1) the thematic relations should be added as extra arguments inside 'predicate', rather than below it as you have done
[05:51:31] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> 2) you need to click all the check marks to save your changes (re @dpriskorn: @mahir256 I tried out elemwala today. I cannot get it to render "cat eats fish" in bokmål.
[05:51:33] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> This is what I tried)
[05:51:36] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> As I said before there were some problems in it
[05:54:47] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> got another error, I'm guessing its the first list item causing it : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/9c262bbc/file_65868.jpg
[05:57:46] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> please stop randomly conjecturing things, whether here or in other groups (re @dpriskorn: got another error, I'm guessing its the first list item "eating" causing it)
[06:01:18] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> what? Whats with the hostility?
[06:01:18] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> I'm just trying out the tool you wrote. 
[06:01:19] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> If you don't want users to use your tool then why publish it? (re @mahir256: please stop randomly conjecturing things, whether here or in other groups)
[06:01:50] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> I searched in youtube to see if I could find a demo video of elemwala before asking here, but found none. 🤷‍♂️
[06:01:51] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> If anyone has a working example for elemwala that they would like to share, feel free to share.
[06:01:52] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> you drove Amir out of the Wikidata Telegram group
[06:01:54] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> (and your last question is *still* a random conjecture) (re @dpriskorn: what? Whats with the hostility?
[06:01:56] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> I'm just trying out the tool you wrote. 
[06:01:57] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> If you don't want users to use your tool then why publi...)
[06:02:29] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> I know how to resolve the problems with the screenshot you provided, but I'll wait for someone else to ask me what they are
[06:14:27] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> It seems you know more that I do and blame me for the actions of others. This is not the first time you seem hostile to me. I invite you to talk to me personally instead .
[06:14:28] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> Are you perhaps feeling angry as a reaction to something I published in the other chat and you have a need for cooperation and peace?
[06:14:30] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> (you are free to PM me if you want) (re @mahir256: you drove Amir out of the Wikidata Telegram group
[06:14:31] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> (and your last question is *still* a random conjecture))
[06:23:41] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> see, I wanted to chat with you at greater length in Tallinn, but as far as I could tell you promptly disappeared shortly after the opening ceremony and did not reappear until just around the time of the closing ceremony, so how am I to know that an intention to talk to you personally again won't end in another disappearance of yours? (it's already quite
[06:23:41] <wm-bb>	 disappointing to have to w <clipped message>
[06:23:42] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> ake up to European-morning messages rather than being able to respond live)
[06:23:43] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> I wonder what would have happened if, instead of disappearing then and only recently exhibiting in the other group your great inattention to mediawiki/query service details in the other chat to the consternation of respectable WMDE people like Amir and Lucas, you could have hashed out these details in person with them in the main ballrooms like other hackathon
[06:23:44] <wm-bb>	 participants instea <clipped message>
[06:23:45] <wm-bb>	 <mahir256> d (re @dpriskorn: It seems you know more that I do and blame me for the actions of others. This is not the first time you seem hostile to me. I in...)
[07:09:11] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> Not sure what you refer to? Last week we enabled access to Lexemes, if that's what you mean (re @cvictorovich: Did functions for Wikidata querying update lately)
[07:09:59] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Here (re @cvictorovich: I need P5186 returned and as an intermediate variable for later actions)
[07:10:00] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> Woah, that's a good catch! Yes, please capture it in a bug. (re @Al: Z19328: I failed to persuade the UI to allow the list Type to be Z6004. It perversely insists that the items in such a list shou...)
[07:10:24] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Wrote lengthy descriptions on my problems
[07:10:47] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> Ah, thanks fro the context. No, this isn't there yet, but we're working on it. (re @cvictorovich: Here)
[07:12:04] <wm-bb>	 <cvictorovich> Once it’s ready please call me immediately
[07:18:46] <wm-bb>	 <vrandecic> I will try to remember it, but it will for sure be part of the weekly newsletter
[07:33:44] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> I tried creating a composition for Z19330 using Z19298 but it cannot be chosen. Is this a known bug? : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/06147703/file_65870.jpg
[07:33:45] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/9a7853ca/file_65871.jpg
[07:34:37] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> maybe it is related to this? (re @Al: Z19328: I failed to persuade the UI to allow the list Type to be Z6004. It perversely insists that the items in such a list shou...)
[07:37:55] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> I grouped all Wikidata related operations here [[Wikifunctions:Catalogue#Wikidata_operations]] I'm very happy to see it is growing fast 🤩
[07:37:56] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> Fantastic work @vrandecic and team ❤️
[07:47:57] <wm-bb>	 <Al> It’s not working yet. https://t.me/Wikifunctions/16743 (re @dpriskorn: I tried creating a composition for Z19330 using Z19298 but it cannot be chosen. Is this a known bug?)
[07:53:55] <wm-bb>	 <Al> I think the main problem is captured in T377545. I’ll create a new report for the deletion of valid function calls. (re @vrandecic: Woah, that's a good catch! Yes, please capture it in a bug.)
[07:59:10] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> I'm working on Z10222 and I don't know how to cast to Z6091 from python. 
[07:59:11] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> Does anyone here know how to cast to a specific type?
[07:59:12] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> I looked in [[Wikifunctions:Python_implementations]], but found nothing
[08:15:44] <wm-bb>	 <Al> As the specific type is the Z8K2/return type, I would expect a returned String to be converted to a Z6091 automatically. More generally, for Types that are not built in, casting to the specified Z8K2 is performed by the appropriate Z64 (see Z16666, for example). (re @dpriskorn: I'm working on Z10222 and I don't know how to cast to Z6091 from python. 
[08:15:45] <wm-bb>	 <Al> Does anyone here know how to cast to a specific type?
[08:15:46] <wm-bb>	 <Al> ...)
[08:32:26] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> Okay, then I found a bug. 😀 I get return type mismatch. : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/6f19acd3/file_65872.jpg
[08:38:19] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> Opened https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T377801
[08:43:13] <wm-bb>	 <dpriskorn> I found the cause Z6091 is missing type converters for code and I cannot edit it to add them it seems. 😅 (re @Al: As the specific type is the Z8K2/return type, I would expect a returned String to be converted to a Z6091 automatically. More ge...)
[09:00:34] <wm-bb>	 <Al> It’s a built-in Type, so it wouldn’t (necessarily) need a  Type converter. Z40 doesn’t have them, for example. (re @dpriskorn: I found the cause Z6091 is missing type converters for code and I cannot edit it to add them it seems. 😅)
[12:01:13] <wm-bb>	 <Al> I added a comment at T377545#10249466 linking to new ticket *T377802* (re @vrandecic: Woah, that's a good catch! Yes, please capture it in a bug.)