[00:17:02] In English, perhaps. More complex in Swedish. (re @Al: Our fraction words (for the denominator) are mostly the same as our ordinals Z14525) [00:21:17] Do we have a Swedish ordinal function? (re @Jan_ainali: In English, perhaps. More complex in Swedish.) [00:23:37] And it's not only ordinals either, sometimes they're part of a compound, sometimes it's new words or other compounds (re @Feeglgeef: Do we have a Swedish ordinal function? I can't find one.) [00:24:16] That sounds difficult to deal with (re @Jan_ainali: And it's not only ordinals either, sometimes they're part of a compound, sometimes it's new words or other compounds) [00:30:09] nvm I'm too impatient (re @Feeglgeef: @vrandecic or Z20118) [00:50:09] Don’t you mostly just add “del” to the ordinal? (re @Jan_ainali: In English, perhaps. More complex in Swedish.) [01:45:15] Not for 1/2, 1/8, 1/9, 1/10, 1/13-1/22 and every tenth from there. Also not 1/1001 and 1/1002. (re @Al: Don’t you mostly just add “del” to the ordinal?) [02:14:49] Can't we use sense statements for Z19512? (re @Toby: It will likely be too early for me, but I would like to submit a challenge suggestion for what you might pick as a function to w...) [02:15:23] Ex. L73084-S1 has P6271 Q38 [02:16:09] L730894-S1* (re @Feeglgeef: Ex. L73084-S1 has P6271 Q38) [02:20:17] However, it isn't getting the data currently, because of T377547 : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/cee3d1f7/file_66591.jpg [03:01:42] I hope so, but I think this function will be hugely challenging in general. I've added your example as Z20135. It would be nice to have examples of all priorities even before we get access to the statements. (re @Feeglgeef: Ex. L73084-S1 has P6271 Q38) [03:02:46] Yeah. I'm going to start compiling all the Wikidata properties and their corresponding adjective order in my userspace (re @Toby: I hope so, but I think this function will be hugely challenging in general. I've added your example as Z20135. It would be nice ...) [03:10:01] Actually, hunting for them now, it seems like we'd have to get the values and fetch them to gain more info for most things (re @Feeglgeef: Can't we use sense statements for Z19512?) [03:23:37] Toby I don't think we can do this unless Wikidata adds a property for adjective order or it becomes possible to fetch another Wikidata item after receiving one and processing it. (re @Feeglgeef: Actually, hunting for them now, it seems like we'd have to get the values and fetch them to gain more info for most things) [04:07:35] I'm not exactly sure how Wikidata works but perhaps we could request the property be created, add it to our tests, and hope it gets added to other Lexemes? (re @Feeglgeef: Toby I don't think we can do this unless Wikidata adds a property for adjective order or it becomes possible to fetch another Wi...) [04:11:20] Toby? (re @Feeglgeef: I'm not exactly sure how Wikidata works but perhaps we could request the property be created, add it to our test Lexemes, and ho...) [04:15:59] I've proposed a few properties in my time (most were identifiers). But I think it might be worth planning your latter angle first "fetch another Wikidata item after receiving one and processing it". Because I expect Wikidata would consider it better to say that L-en green is just the word for green, which is the colour, so there really is a two-step connection. [04:15:59] Otherwise every la [04:16:00] nguage's lexeme for the same concept needs to get some kind of "colour" tag. (re @Feeglgeef: I'm not exactly sure how Wikidata works but perhaps we could request the property be created, add it to our test Lexemes, and ho...) [04:18:10] That's fair. The only thing that I worry about is the time until we are able to fetch two Wikidata items within 10 seconds will be very long (re @Toby: I've proposed a few properties in my time (most were identifiers). But I think it might be worth planning your latter angle firs...) [04:19:21] Having double connections, though, will make it so that we do not have to create one of these for every task we might preform [04:27:15] "patience young grasshopper" Yes, it may be long. Wikifunctions is a long game IMO. Thankfully, sorting adjectives won't be needed until we are well down the track toward an Abstract Wikipedia. But I do think it will be a cool function showing off something subtle about English which native speakers all sort-of know without usually formally learning it. [04:27:26] I'd be interested in taking a crack at adjective ordering once every English lexeme has at least one sense. You can help remedy this problem by logging in and adding senses here: orthohin.toolforge.org/add/Q1860 [04:31:14] I'm not a very patient person (re @Toby: "patience young grasshopper" Yes, it may be long. Wikifunctions is a long game IMO. Thankfully, sorting adjectives won't be need...) [04:34:05] Can I limit to adjectives? 😊 (re @mahir256: I'd be interested in taking a crack at adjective ordering once every English lexeme has at least one sense. You can help remedy ...) [04:34:22] ^^ [04:34:23] sure! orthohin.toolforge.org/add/Q1860/Q34698 (re @Toby: Can I limit to adjectives? 😊) [04:35:19] Awesome... I thought I was making a cheeky feature request, because I couldn't see how to do it from the page. Great that you've already got it in place. (re @mahir256: sure! orthohin.toolforge.org/add/Q1860/Q34698) [04:38:49] you can also filter for lexemes with a particular property defined on it, such as those with a link to the Australian Oxford Dictionary: orthohin.toolforge.org/add/Q1860/P12718 (re @Toby: Awesome... I thought I was making a cheeky feature request, because I couldn't see how to do it from the page. Great that you've...) [04:39:54] (filtering on both of those criteria together, however, will have to come later) [04:41:21] I did this, but when I clicked "add" it went onto the next one but forgot that I wanted adjectives. (re @mahir256: sure! orthohin.toolforge.org/add/Q1860/Q34698) [04:42:53] oh dear, hold on [04:49:32] ok try again now [04:49:32] (there's also links on the main page going to part-of-speech-specific prompts, whose styling I will address later) (re @Toby: I did this, but when I clicked "add" it went onto the next one but forgot that I wanted adjectives.) [06:58:18] Good point; thanks for this and thanks to all who commented. Anyway, we decided _not_ to omit the identifier statements. Still planning to deploy _MR 249: Ingest more statements when fetching lexemes, etc._ on Wednesday. (re @Nicolas: Never say never 😉 [06:58:18] I could imagine some use for identifiers. [06:58:18] Like if we need to choose between two lexemes, we could choose the o...) [07:02:16] Had the patch been deployed? (re @David: Good point; thanks for this and thanks to all who commented. Anyway, we decided not to omit the identifier statements. Still p...) [09:03:45] Forwarded from Good news: I deposited $200 by myself and allowed Mr Andy Emerson trade for me and I got my first payout of $1,800  within 24 hrs I can now understand why there are so many recommendations about him and I'm also recommending his services to you reading this post .. contact him via the link below. Don't miss out !!. 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[18:28:57] 2355 [22:44:01] 👋 [23:03:11] I think we should use [[w:ISO_8601#Years]] to represent years in type conversion instead of an object of era and year, but allow for using the era and year in composition, because the similar system for Rational numbers went really well. [23:40:42] @vrandecic I've finished all of the type converters for the Gregorian Year type. Z20152, Z20150, Z20151, and Z20012 [23:41:59] You should just have to replace "Znnnnn" to the actual ZId of the type, and change the target type to the correct type from Z6.