[01:58:05] 4438 [03:33:09] If this is a common problem, another option would be to try using all our old string functions to selectively unpluralise. (re @dvd_ccc27919: That's why I usually prefer using the corresponding lexeme when possible) [11:35:48] Al I don't understand what you mean by the second sentence of "References are a little different because they apply to the entirety of the Wikidata statement. Given that, it’s not clear why they are anything more than a list of Wikidata items." Most (all?) references on Wikidata are a list of things (snaks?) with two components, a property and a value (sometimes but [11:35:48] not always a Wikidata item). [11:54:38] I may have been wrong… 😏 What I meant was that a reference supports a proposition as a whole (the triple), so the triple is the implied subject of the reference proposition. Given that, it’s not clear (to me) why Z6003K5 is not a simple list of headless propositions, rather than being (effectively) a list of lists. (re @u99of9: Al I don't understand what you mean by the [11:54:38] se [11:54:38] cond sentence of "References are a little different because they apply to the entir...) [12:05:26] Is Z14321 duplicates Z12696? [12:05:27] It could be replaced without losing functionality, I guess. [12:20:40] You’d lose the language-picker in the interface and type validation throughout. (re @nyuhn: Is Z14321 duplicates Z12696? [12:20:41] It could be replaced without losing functionality, I guess.) [14:55:53] I tried several things on Z27307 but I keep getting a Z24, anyone knows why? [14:58:09] (I finally have a good of all the steps for this function, it's gonna be long but doable ; I don't know why the simpliest things already fails :/ ) [15:24:56] I don’t think Z22693 makes any sense here. What are you aiming to do? (re @NicolasVIGNERON: I tried several things on Z27307 but I keep getting a Z24, anyone knows why?) [15:25:58] I guess it was that part, I tried several things to get a string from the form representation... (re @Al: I don’t think Z22693 makes any sense here. What are you aiming to do?) [15:37:02] Ah… well you don’t have a form representation to start with, or even a lexeme. But if you did, it would be a monolingual text and Z14396 should give you the string from it. (re @NicolasVIGNERON: I guess it was that part, I tried several things to get a string from the form representation...) [15:45:15] So… if you’re lucky you get a list of lexemes for the item, then an appropriate form from a lexeme and the representations for the form (often only one)… then you can get the string out of the representation. (re @NicolasVIGNERON: I guess it was that part, I tried several things to get a string from the form representation...) [15:49:59] Try taking the first element from Z23610, perhaps? (re @Al: Ah… well you don’t have a form representation to start with, or even a lexeme. But if you did, it would be a monolingual text an...) [15:52:09] oh, I see now, thanks (re @Al: Ah… well you don’t have a form representation to start with, or even a lexeme. But if you did, it would be a monolingual text an...) [15:52:44] yeah, but I have a lot of other things to look for... [15:52:44] see a summary on https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Talk:Z27307 (there is maybe still a few errors) (re @Al: So… if you’re lucky you get a list of lexemes for the item, then an appropriate form from a lexeme and the representations for t...) [15:54:28] And you probably want to start with a Z6091 rather than a Z6001. (re @NicolasVIGNERON: yeah, but I have a lot of other things to look for... [15:54:28] see a summary on https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Talk:Z27307 (there is ...) [16:01:14] is there no way to easily go from one to the other? (most other functions will use the Wikidata item I guess, no ?) (re @Al: And you probably want to start with a Z6091 rather than a Z6001.) [16:23:15] You can use Z23756 but mostly it’s a reference you’ll begin with. [16:25:33] thanks, navigating through all the functions is harder and harder :/ [16:26:51] Yeah, we’ll have to make some charts 🤔 (re @NicolasVIGNERON: thanks, navigating through all the functions is harder and harder :/) [16:33:59] charts would be great! (re @Al: Yeah, we’ll have to make some charts 🤔) [16:34:17] a way to filter functions by datetype of input/output would be good too [16:43:58] You can try Z22973. Far from ideal, but… (re @NicolasVIGNERON: a way to filter functions by datetype of input/output would be good too)