[03:29:15] https://youtu.be/ViOkEYQLggM Here is the WF/AW one on Youtube. I'll get it to Commons soon. (re @Feeglgeef: Oh, I forgot about those! Are they on Commons yet?) [04:23:06] Thank you! (re @u99of9: https://youtu.be/ViOkEYQLggM Here is the WF/AW one on Youtube. I'll get it to Commons soon.) [04:39:13] There's probably nothing in there that you don't know! But having read the paper referenced in this week's newsletter, I realised that people's perceptions of the project depend heavily on the language we use about it. I hope I didn't claim anything too grandiose. (re @Feeglgeef: Thank you!) [04:48:57] I've watched it through and I agree, nothing new. I'd consider it accurate though, thanks for giving it! (re @u99of9: There's probably nothing in there that you don't know! But having read the paper referenced in this week's newsletter, I realise...) [05:57:11] Also available on Commons at [[:commons:*File:Wikifunctions in practice - Toby Hudson - WikiConAU-2026.webm]]* (re @u99of9: https://youtu.be/ViOkEYQLggM Here is the WF/AW one on Youtube. I'll get it to Commons soon.) [08:34:07] lol :D(page now deleted) : https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/5dade079/file_79703.jpg [11:48:46] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/b4603744/file_79707_oga.ogg [11:49:04] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/7aaa6007/file_79708_oga.ogg [11:54:51] They're actually not, there was one before them (re @NicolasVIGNERON: lol :D [11:54:51] (page now deleted)) [12:53:19] How is recursion performance in composition? Should it be avoided? [12:55:24] I think it's decent, and we need it for lots of simple compositions [12:55:45] It’s not too bad, especially if there is a literal tail call. (re @wmtelegram_bot: How is recursion performance in composition? Should it be avoided?) [12:56:07] There used to be a depth problem but that seems not to be a big problem anymore. [12:57:21] One good thing about WF is that it automatically uses the best implementation. So you might as well put a recursive one in, and if it's best, it will win. [12:59:20] But remember that the recursive call will call the current favoured implementation for depth 1 and further, so the performance metrics aren't solely reflective of the recursive composition. [13:05:05] Make sure to add some tests that require decent depth so the performance is measured for a good range of situations. [15:06:14] thanks. I am User:Sun8908 😊 (re @Ameisenigel: Done) [17:08:54] i still have troubling wrapping my head around the lack of lambdas [17:08:59] (in composition language)