[03:00:20] [[Technical 13]] modified [[User:Technical 13/Logs/CSD]] ( Logging speedy deletion nomination of [[Template:ETp/doc]]. ([[WP:TW|TW]]) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589868224 [03:00:29] [[Technical 13]] modified [[User:Technical 13/Logs/CSD]] ( Logging speedy deletion nomination of [[Template:ESp/doc]]. ([[WP:TW|TW]]) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589868245 [03:19:46] [[AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/PERTable]] ( [-306] Update table (2 requests) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589870212 [03:25:05] [[AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/TPERTable]] ( [+385] Update table (2 requests) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589870718 [03:42:38] [[AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/TPERTable]] ( [-385] Update table (1 request) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589872456 [05:49:09] [[Technical 13]] modified [[User:Technical 13/On Hold]] ( Remove stuff I already have... ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589883044 [06:12:39] [[Technical 13]] modified [[User:Technical 13/Availability]] ( I've been mostly back anyways even though I don't have steady Internet connection at home yet. ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589884694 [06:24:48] !link [06:24:48] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_13 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Technical_13/Availability [06:26:05] @help [06:26:05] I am running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 1.20.2.0 my source code is licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot I will be very happy if you fix my bugs or implement new features [06:30:02] [[Technical 13]] modified [[User:Technical 13]] ( Autopatrolled ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589885985 [06:30:15] @configure recent-changes-template [06:30:16] Value of recent-changes-template is: [[$username]] $action [[$page]] ($flags $summary ) ▶ $fullurl [06:30:35] @configure recent-changes-template=[[User:$username]] $action [[$page]] ($flags $summary ) ▶ $fullurl [06:30:35] Value [[User:$username]] $action [[$page]] ($flags $summary ) ▶ $fullurl was stored into recent-changes-template to config [06:56:02] [[User:Technical 13]] modified [[User talk:Technical 13/Editnotice]] ( Add some currently useless parameters... ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589887989 [07:10:57] [[User:AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/PERTable]] ( [+324] Update table (3 requests) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589889123 [08:46:20] [[User:AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/PERTable]] ( [+288] Update table (4 requests) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589896599 [14:42:03] [[User:AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/TPERTable]] ( [+392] Update table (2 requests) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589927020 [15:08:43] [[User:AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/TPERTable]] ( [+388] Update table (3 requests) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589930057 [15:14:03] [[User:AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/TPERTable]] ( [+423] Update table (4 requests) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589930705 [15:24:42] [[User:AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/TPERTable]] ( [+17] Update table (4 requests) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589932014 [15:30:00] [[User:AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/PERTable]] ( [+330] Update table (5 requests) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589932674 [15:40:43] [[User:AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/TPERTable]] ( [-388] Update table (3 requests) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589933929 [15:46:12] Ok here I am [15:46:22] My Hebrew isn't so good, is that kipod? [15:46:30] Yes [15:46:49] !RfA-testwiki [15:46:50] There is no such key, you probably want to try: !myRfA-testwiki, [15:46:58] !myRfA-testwiki [15:46:58] https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests/Permissions/Technical_13 [15:47:03] !myRfB-testwiki [15:47:03] 9/11/2013 #mediawiki [21:33] Is there anyone available thay can give me the crat bit on testwiki so I can give new Articles for creation script developers admin as needed? -- [21:34] Or do I need to put in a formal request on testwiki? -- [21:35] I can do that -- [21:35] Thanks bawolff -- [21:35] done [15:47:13] There's a script developed by kipod that allows you to enter the PGN of a chess game, and it plays the game out [15:47:20] Okay, is there anything on testwiki yet? [15:47:43] Now the issue is the script looks bad when used by someone not having JS [15:48:11] How do you think you can make a js script for a user with js disabled? [15:48:26] (Not installing the script into your common.js has the same effect right now, but I'm hoping to get this implemented across wiki) [15:49:10] I have no idea how these things work, but what I want is the script to be used when a user has JS [15:49:17] Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact name. In general, this page should be created and edited by User:קיפודנחש. [15:49:50] no contributions either... [15:49:55] One second [15:50:12] But if the user has no JS, then instead, it should display the chessboard as we currently use in our articles [15:50:22] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Script_for_interactive_chess_board See this discussion [15:51:02] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%A9/pgnviewer_demo is the demo, but you need User:קיפודנחש/pgnviewer.js to be installed first [15:52:14] In the same discussion, kipod also discussed how he could theoretically implement it (None of which I understood fully) but at the very least, he needed the "editinterface" permissions on a testwiki to try it out. [15:52:49] Tell him to post a message on my talk page on testwiki and I'll give him admin bit until he is done. :) [15:53:25] https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Technical_13 [15:53:25] Cool [15:53:25] Technical_13, Is there any way I can convince you to look into this and see how it can be implemented? [15:54:21] Not right now... I am stupid busy trying to clear my mind. I'm way behind in one of my classes and it's delaying my funding to take next semsester's classes. [15:54:37] If I get that cleared up somewhat soon, then I'd be happy to look at it. [15:54:58] I see. But can you put it somewhere in your to-do list so you'd look into this whenever you can? [15:55:12] (Or atleast wont forget about it) [15:55:20] Chess/pgn javascript project has been there for some time... [15:55:22] lol [15:56:42] Yes [15:58:12] I tried to find how it could be done, and at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikiproject_Chess#Interactive_chess_board it turned out that work was already started but not completed on this [15:58:41] Technical_13, Can you advise me on who's the best person(s) to contact to figure out how to get this script done? [15:59:03] I really have no idea. [15:59:19] Nobody you can think of who'll be good with this? [15:59:32] Much of the community is opposed to such an interactive chessboard idea, so it is hard to find someone. [16:00:43] Technical_13, Is the community really opposed? Where did they oppose to such an idea? [16:11:14] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=%22not+a+game+server%22&fulltext=Search&ns4=1&ns5=1&redirs=1&profile=advanced [16:11:38] Technical_13, This is not about hosting a game [16:12:04] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTGAMEHOST [16:12:05] Technical_13, This is about displaying the moves already played in a given game [16:12:29] Rather than describe through chess notation (as is done now) [16:12:38] Yes, there was "some" support for a viewer. The issue is that most mobile devices don't display JavaScript. [16:12:43] We'll also use this script to "show" the moves [16:13:11] Yeah. Which is why I'm hoping there could be a hack around this for non-js [16:13:32] The original proposal I saw was to incorporate this into MediaWiki:Common.js which was a very bad idea. It'll make a good gadget. [16:13:54] I still think that a scaleable vector graphic or .gif animation would be a better answer. [16:14:27] .svg also doesn't have a wide range of support yet (but it is getting better). [16:14:35] [[User:קיפודנחש]] modified [[User talk:Technical 13]] ( [+283] /* another request */ new section ) ▶ https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=191281 [16:14:55] .gif isn't controlable, but it works on all systems. [16:15:04] There is kipod... let me go grant that. :) [16:16:20] (change visibility) 11:16, January 9, 2014 Technical 13 (talk | contribs | block) changed group membership for User:קיפודנחש from (none) to administrator (per request on IRC and https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=191281) [16:19:00] !learn @action kiss slaps {0} with a big pink trout. [16:19:03] !kiss foo [16:19:03] * Helpmebot slaps foo with a big pink trout. [16:19:06] [[User:קיפודנחש]] modified [[User talk:Technical 13]] ( [+145] /* another request */ ) ▶ https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=191284 [16:22:57] [[User:Technical 13]] modified [[User talk:Technical 13]] ( [+248] /* another request */ re ) ▶ https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=191285 [16:23:27] [[User:Technical 13]] modified [[User talk:Technical 13]] ( [-1] /* another request */ gr... ) ▶ https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=191286 [16:51:16] Technical_13, Thanks for the help and advice, none of which I understood :P [16:51:42] lol [16:52:53] Also, I do not think gif or svg may be viable solution, as they'd require a new file to be uploaded for every occurence [16:53:37] Which can be better implemented by a script that works on PNG, giving complete ease. [16:54:30] gif is the most compatible option. I'll see if I can write a program/script that will create a .gif based on PGN data... [17:01:50] Technical_13, Will the program require you to upload the gif? [17:02:26] The initial program would, but it is no different than having to upload any other image. [17:03:49] That is something that I think might be kind of hectic [17:04:02] I'm guessing I'm not clear... This would be the fallback for readers without js or without the gadget enabled (as I would expect it to have to be opt-in). [17:05:07] Ah, ok. For the non JS fallback, it might work depending on the scenario. I probably think others might prefer just the position, but this could also work [17:06:26] Technical_13, http://www.caissa.com/chess-tools/pgn-editor.php exists. I think this is what you planned to work on, right? [17:07:02] nope [17:07:18] Ah, ok. [17:07:55] It looked like the one (Export to animated gif) [17:08:52] I guess I'll be the first to comment here and get the ball rolling. The way I envision this project working is in two, possibly three parts. The first part would be a static template to create a table and environment for this content to display. I will create a mockup starting point for what I have in my head of this on WP:WikiProject Chess/PGN Chess Viewer/Template:PGN-CV/T13. Some of this may possibly be manipulated/created for those without J [17:09:14] ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chess/PGN_Chess_Viewer#Discussion [17:10:26] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chess/PGN_Chess_Viewer/Template:PGN-CV/T13 run by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chess/PGN_Chess_Viewer/PGN-CV/T13.js [17:22:03] [[User:AnomieBOT]] modified [[User:AnomieBOT/TPERTable]] ( [-408] Update table (2 requests) ) ▶ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=589946731 [17:26:24] tos ^^ [17:26:38] Reading already... [17:31:00] Ok Technical_13 I read most of it but barely understood what was done/what needs to be done/what are we supposed to do [17:32:30] There needs to be a nicely formatted template with all of the information in it. Then there needs to be a testcases page with an example of a very short game and an example of a very long game. [17:33:27] Then, there needs to be a JavaScript that will allow a user to go through the game at their own pace one move at a time or an option to play the game in real time (if timestops are available for that game) [17:34:05] There also needs to be a realtime (or reasonable time alternative) .gif image to use as a default for each game as a fallback inside the template. 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