[07:38:28] !staff does anyone have links with cvn-fr? one of their bots seems to not have been logged in since late june when wmf ops logged everyone out: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_aide:Salebot#Tentative_de_relance_de_Salebot [07:38:29] Thanks kline, staff have been notified of your request and should be around shortly to assist you. [07:39:40] people have started coming to #freenode to ask that staff try and take control of the bot that is still happily logging everything in #vandalism-fr-wp but needs to be instructed to restart [08:42:03] kline: Source (join directly if the bot is down): irc://irc.wikimedia.org/#fr.wikipedia [08:43:47] hmm? [08:44:15] "#cvn-fr" is not our regularized channel name.. [08:44:54] #cvn-wp-fr for French Wikipedia, #cvn-scan-fr for all sites ( regularized exception: #cvn-ja ) [08:45:08] 17:45:05 (ChanServ) : Channel #cvn-fr is not registered. [08:45:20] kline: ^ [08:46:56] see also : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Countervandalism_Network/Channels [10:13:24] i dont really have any skin in the game [10:13:43] like i said, people are just appealing to freenode staff directly, so i thought someone here might be more appropriate [13:04:30] kline: I'm not sure I follow. Are we talking about a bot logging in with Freenode/NickServ or a bot editing Wikipedia without logged in? [13:06:09] Assuming this is about cvn-wp-fr, we operate CVNBot there which reports all edits from users without an account. It would be mentioning this Salebot a lot probably [13:06:31] salebot is a french cvn bot [13:06:46] a user came to me today saying the bot was logged out of wikipedia and as such cannot make edits [13:07:18] and has asked me to wield freenode staff powers to try to convince the bot to restart itself (which would try to re-log into wikipedia) [13:07:42] Ah [13:07:42] im not going to do this, but i hope that there might be a degree of overlap that makes it the case that people might be able to reach the bot's actual operator [13:08:28] They'd be trying to compel you to +op and expel an magic command to the bot [13:08:52] unfortunately i dont think the user in question has done much to solve this problem (cue the "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" meme), but i have limited time and french language skills to fix this for them [13:09:41] So none of cvn-wp-fr cvn-scan-fr or cvn-fr have anything going on [13:09:57] We should be able to op there without overuse of power [13:10:01] But which channel? [13:13:14] mm [13:13:35] #vandalism-fr-wp [13:13:57] I see. That's a legacy channel. Didn't know they still used that. [13:14:02] We don't own those [13:14:13] I can't op there to say the restart command [13:15:34] So yeah the on-wiki talk page thread to the owner makes sense [13:15:35] im generally willing to help out with staff overrides for irc related things [13:15:53] but im somewhat reluctant to do so to try and drive 3rd party, off-network infra [13:16:04] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Salebot/Commandes_IRC [13:16:05] Yeah [13:17:55] Operator is reasonable active https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spécial:Contributions/Gribeco [13:17:59] I'll reach out again [13:18:08] Thanks kline [13:19:44] thanks, take care