[01:01:45] anyone here? [03:37:49] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Members was modified, changed by Techman224 link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=470018885 edit summary: beta tester for mac [04:23:06] ok, i got huggle3 compiled with mono on gnu/linux, linked it with all needen resources, but now it just does not want to run [04:23:18] resgen2 -usesourcepath -compile **/*.resx [04:23:29] gmcs -pkg:dotnet -recurse:'*.cs' -out:huggle.exe -warn:0 `ls **/*.resources -1 | sed 's/^\(.*\)\/\(.*\)$/-resource:&,huggle3.\1.\2/' | sed 's/^\([^/]*\)$/-resource:&,huggle3.\1/'` [04:25:36] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/531197/ [04:35:17] also showing: Could not set X locale modifiers [04:55:21] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Members was modified, changed by Varnent link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=470026927 edit summary: added self as mac beta tester [04:58:55] so out of curiosity - how hard would it be to make huggle 3 (which I haven't downloaded - so this may be a silly question) compatible with 3rd party wikis? [06:19:31] ok, it's not mono related, i've just compiled it from source [06:19:49] maybe it would run with a windows build? [08:26:28] hi Giftpflanze [10:17:15] hi mmovchin [10:25:00] Giftpflanze: you need to changed targe [10:25:35] varnent: not so hard [10:26:45] petan: excellent - is there anything on the web outlining what I'd need to do? does it require mod within the app or something we can do and then redistribute? also - is the mac beta usable enough to play around with yet? :) [10:27:11] no it isn't you just need to change paths in config [10:27:39] great - that's good to know - ty [10:27:40] there are few config files you need to have on wiki [10:29:13] hello [10:29:22] hey [10:29:36] Giftpflanze is here, too :) [10:30:18] petan: okay - we can easily add those [10:31:46] IWorld here? Please look at querry. [10:33:09] *query [10:43:38] petan, is it ok wenn IWorld's Logo and Icons will be under CC-BY? [10:44:24] probably [10:44:25] OK, I'm away. Until 1pm. [10:44:44] Petan and IWorld could you please talk to each other about the license? [10:44:45] thanks [10:45:46] mmovchin: ok [10:46:37] * mmovchin is away. [10:48:23] Should I license it under public domain? [11:02:22] best would be gpl [11:04:52] I have already uploaded under CC-BY. [11:10:20] petan: what's the best way to play around with 3.0 for mac? sign up for beta? [11:10:35] that too, or jsut download svn [11:10:51] where's it at? [11:11:06] oh - google code- nvm :) [11:14:16] petan: how will the beta be distributed? [11:14:25] you will get a message on TP [11:14:57] there will be a 19 beta in 3 weeks [11:15:35] what is TP? [11:15:43] talk page? [11:19:34] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Members was modified, changed by IWorld link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=470061589 edit summary: +me [11:20:00] :-) [11:21:55] Change on 12mediawiki a page Manual:Huggle/Configuration was modified, changed by Varnent link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=482195 edit summary: wikilink update [11:43:44] where in the repo is 3.0? I can only find the source for 2.1.8... [11:43:56] *2.1.18 [11:44:52] nvm - found it :) [11:45:04] * varnent should probably go to bed [12:38:49] I'm back [12:42:46] petan hier? [12:42:52] yes [12:43:14] IWorld uploaded some graphics: [12:43:15] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Huggle_logo.svg [12:43:21] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Huggle_icon.svg [12:43:28] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Huggle_icon_mini.svg [12:43:50] ok [12:44:38] IWorld: could you use more wikipedia icons, like sysop broom etc [12:44:40] or wikipedia logo [12:45:02] OK [12:45:04] also inserting a wikipedia red logo somewhere to it [12:45:08] * huggle red [12:45:31] thank you for working on it [12:45:38] I want to create an icon set for huggle. [12:45:41] ok [12:45:59] please upload pictures to commons [12:46:09] main site is on mediawiki.org [12:46:13] so we could use it there [12:46:38] oh nvm [12:53:49] Petan: perhaps the red could be toned down a little bit? [12:54:06] talk to IWor ld [12:54:08] :P [12:54:21] * Thehelpfulone wonders what this is http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Huggle_icon.svg [12:54:36] I do only code :P [12:56:54] Thehelpfulone: fewer red? [12:57:12] on all Icons? [12:58:11] I think so, it might be bad for people with visual impairment [12:59:08] perhaps a slightly darker red would be better [12:59:16] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Members was modified, changed by Wiki Gh! link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=470071212 edit summary: +1 [13:00:45] Thehelpfulone: ok [13:03:04] It is best if I create the icon new and improve. [13:05:54] okay :) [13:09:05] wow, we're getting many new beta testers [13:09:06] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Huggle/Members [13:10:09] I'm not sure if that would really help. I fear that some just want to have HG3 before the others. [13:14:49] I think we have enough testers who have Windows. We need more with Macs and Linux. [13:15:37] I think we should rather concentrate on making it working rather than on testers :D [13:17:15] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Members was modified, changed by Thehelpfulone link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=470073040 edit summary: fixes for myself [13:26:30] heh, ok :D [13:32:21] What [13:32:22] Please send the following data for analysis [13:32:22] {trimmed} pace.space() -> space.space() -> space.space() -> space.space() -> space.space() -> space.space() -> space.space() -> space.space() -> space.space() -> space.space() -> space.space() -> FindString(string, string, string, string) -> Core.FindString( string, string) -> FindString(Source, string, To) -> FindString(string, string, string, string) -> Core.FindString( string, string) -> FindString(Source, string, To) -> CoreIO.Proces [13:32:22] Die Verbindung mit dem Remoteserver kann nicht hergestellt werden. [13:32:22] Source: [13:32:22] System [13:32:23] Stack trace : [13:32:23] bei System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetRequestStream(TransportContext& context) [13:32:24] bei System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetRequestStream() [13:32:24] bei huggle3.request_core.Request.DoWebRequest(String URL, String PostString, Boolean OverrideSsl) in C:\Users\Michael\Dropbox\Huggle\Huggle3\csharp\huggle3\Requests\request_core.cs:Zeile 219. [13:32:55] Many buttons on HG3 are not viewable completly [13:33:02] because the window is to small [13:33:09] I wil try to fix this all [13:33:26] Also, we dont have a alternative (help) Text on the mostly buttons [13:45:30] petan [13:45:37] should I change "//Copyright (C) 2011 Huggle team"? [13:45:46] sure [13:45:50] to "//Copyright (C) 2011-2012 Huggle team" or "//Copyright (C) 2012 Huggle team"? [13:45:57] np [13:46:06] I could do it using a script [13:46:21] I can do this [13:47:27] My IDE is able to go through the files [13:47:57] how should I replace it? [13:48:01] 2011-2012 [13:48:05] or just 2012 [13:48:44] ok [13:48:49] 11-12 [13:48:53] ok [13:54:02] [huggle project updates - Google Code] r793 (Year-update on Copyright and small Layout Change on "About".) committed by michael.movchin - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/detail?r=793 [13:55:00] thanks petanbot :P [14:01:00] Petan, should I add Localizitation-variables to the files when I see a text where a variable for translation is given but it's not translated [14:01:34] you can [14:01:37] ok [14:01:47] f.e. "about-desc" [14:06:02] [huggle project updates - Google Code] r794 (Year-update on Copyright) committed by michael.movchin - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/detail?r=794 [14:06:17] petan: do you know a good symbol for a better Huggle icon? [14:06:52] maybe admin mop [14:06:53] ? [14:06:54] dunno [14:07:34] is that public domain? [14:10:04] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Edit-clear.svg ? [14:10:52] It then enters the icon. [14:12:10] It looks great! [14:14:09] IWorld: it's used by the countervandalismnetwork, http://countervandalism.net/ [14:15:15] It's another icon [14:46:31] petan http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Huggle_icon.svg [14:48:39] hmm, maybe try to use wikipedia symbols more [14:48:46] there is already a picture of mop [14:48:54] but I don't really care [14:48:55] it's good [14:49:16] I personally like this picture :) [14:49:19] it's funny :P [14:50:04] A broom :) [14:51:06] Wikipedia icons are not free [14:53:54] A small icon: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Huggle_icon_mini.svg [14:54:01] [huggle project updates - Google Code] r795 (Localization (About Huggle)) committed by michael.movchin - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/detail?r=795 [15:10:03] hmm I liked the h [15:10:20] and the red, but just if you toned it down slightly - now it's burgundy :P [15:14:38] I also liked the "h", but the broom is better. [15:15:31] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Members was modified, changed by IWorld link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=470087450 edit summary: [15:43:40] * Thehelpfulone thinks the broom looks more like a factory.. [15:43:42] :P [15:49:47] btw Thehelpfulone test cluster now have SUL :D [15:49:54] you may want to merge your acc [15:50:03] but it's not configured properly yet [15:50:16] it's easier though because you can login to all sites using one login [15:50:31] okay [15:51:00] Petan: what's the link that I need to use? [15:51:11] Special:MergeAccount I guss [15:51:14] it's in preferences [15:51:27] I don't know if you ever registered on other sites [15:51:31] like simple wiki [15:51:36] probably not [15:51:39] can you give me a link, yes I've got a SUL account [15:52:03] http://deployment.wmflabs.org/en_wikipedia/wiki/Special:MergeAccount [15:52:31] okay [15:52:48] No accounts matching your name were found in the central account tracking table! The database must be corrupt. [15:52:58] :( [15:53:05] ah... [15:53:07] that's crap [15:53:14] will check it [15:55:01] Thehelpfulone: I think if you created an account on /auth you could probably merge it later, but it's just a guess [15:56:11] crap [15:57:48] Petan: is that wiki just for huggle? [15:57:52] or will it be for other things too [15:58:10] deployment? [15:58:13] yep [15:58:13] no it's for wmf deployment [15:58:21] :D [15:58:41] there will be deployment of next month to cluster [15:58:48] we want to test if everything is ok [15:59:00] okay, so does it get re-set every month? [15:59:03] no [15:59:09] okay :D [15:59:10] it will get upgraded before release [15:59:47] so should I create an account on /auth? [15:59:55] you can try it [16:00:03] I don't think it matters to have a sul :D [16:00:12] Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. [16:00:14] Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. [16:00:16] (Cannot contact the database server: Access denied for user 'mw'@'%' to database 'globalblocking' (deployment-sql)) [16:00:26] a SUL would be nice though ;) [16:00:30] where [16:00:37] by SUL you mean internal SUL http://deployment.wmflabs.org/auth/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup&returnto=Main+Page [16:00:41] Petan: http://deployment.wmflabs.org/auth/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup&returnto=Main+Page [16:00:49] this sul will just be for the development wiki? [16:00:54] where you see error [16:00:59] yes [16:01:05] just for test cluster [16:01:37] I see it too [16:10:59] Thehelpfulone: should work [16:11:07] okay [16:11:56] done [16:12:01] http://deployment.wmflabs.org/auth/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone [16:13:05] ok can you merge it now? [16:13:32] seems ok [16:15:16] yep [16:15:18] works [16:15:23] finally :D [16:15:28] are there global permissions like crat or is that too much to ask? ;) [16:15:36] I will make some [16:15:54] great [16:19:13] Petan: do you have your own SVN access to this then? [16:19:28] wikimedia svn? yes [16:20:17] it's listed here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers [16:21:13] ok [16:36:51] Petan: you around? [16:36:54] yes [16:37:07] okay, question for you - when a bug codes into code review [16:37:13] how long does it take for the code to get, reviewed? [16:37:18] long time [16:37:22] very long [16:37:29] :S [16:37:36] any there's no way to speed that up? [16:37:38] review of code takes like a half a year [16:37:43] depends on severity [16:37:45] O_O [16:37:51] what bug you talk about [16:38:07] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33380 [16:38:18] it's highest severity [16:38:25] basically private filters should have private logs [16:38:40] this will be reviewed soon [16:39:05] ah okay good :) [16:39:09] and who does code reviewing? [16:39:27] tim starling, brion vibber and Roan Kattouw [16:40:59] okay, poke me when you've made those global groups so I can try it out :) [16:41:24] ok [16:41:36] I already made them I just don't know how to insert users to them [16:43:10] Thehelpfulone: I gave you steward [16:43:16] try it [16:43:22] I can't find how to do that :D [16:44:09] Thehelpfulone: I gave you steward [16:50:38] grr silly internet [16:50:44] okay [16:51:10] hmm, yet it doesn't let me edit global groups? [16:51:12] or rather add rights to people [16:51:13] e.g. http://deployment.wmflabs.org/en_wikipedia/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUserRights&user=Thehelpfulone%40auth [16:51:15] You do not have permission to edit user rights on other wikis. [16:52:41] yes it doesn't work at all [16:52:44] I have no idea why [16:53:04] I can't even change global groups using that [16:53:10] all checkboxes are gray [16:53:17] there is no option to insert new users [16:53:30] there is almost no documentation for SUL [16:53:37] so it's pretty hard to set it up [17:04:29] Thehelpfulone: ok so which global group you want to be member of [17:04:34] I give you global sysop ok? [17:05:43] okay, I mean I know what I'm doing with assigning rights so if you need any global stewards I could do that too [17:06:40] it doesn't really work, but ok :D [17:07:03] you should see it on your user page [17:07:08] sertting [17:07:11] * setting [17:07:33] you should be able to change user groups by typing user@wiki [17:07:48] like Petrb@auth [17:07:53] like Petrb@cs_wikipedia [17:07:54] etc. [17:09:12] yep [17:09:59] * Thehelpfulone tries it [17:10:09] petan: did you make me a global steward? [17:10:16] I don't know :D [17:10:18] I think so [17:10:31] wait a moment I am working on it [17:10:46] I was told to make it same as on production so it takes a while [17:11:00] okay sure [17:15:18] heh it doesn't work even to me... [17:16:16] no idea [17:17:34] yay [17:17:35] it works [17:18:39] why is it not showing up on http://deployment.wmflabs.org/auth/wiki/Special:SpecialPages? O_O [17:19:13] i still get the error message not allowed on http://deployment.wmflabs.org/en_wikipedia/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUserRights&user=Thehelpfulone%40auth too :S [17:20:14] it shows up [17:20:53] try again [17:21:14] http://deployment.wmflabs.org/auth/w/index.php?title=Special%3AGlobalGroupMembership&user=Thehelpfulone&wpKnownWiki=auth [17:22:24] ah there we go [17:23:28] does it work? [17:23:32] yep [17:23:38] the link that I said didn't work works now t [17:23:40] too( [17:23:41] too** [17:23:45] ok [17:26:26] http://deployment.wmflabs.org/en_wikipedia/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone [17:26:33] wiki links don't work [17:27:00] which [17:27:05] please report it all somwhere [17:27:29] lol [17:27:35] it wouldn't work on en either [17:27:53] but it's true it doesn't work [17:27:59] it must be iwlink issue [17:29:11] so if this was imported across to en, that would be broken? :S [17:29:33] hm... [17:29:45] link is ok, something is broken [17:31:46] can you delete pages etc? [17:31:53] on wikis where you aren't admin [17:32:11] you should be able to do that [17:35:15] let me try [17:36:34] yes [17:36:39] because I'm in global stwards? [17:36:45] yes [17:36:58] that's how it work on prod [17:37:06] if you are a steward you can do anything [17:38:40] yep works [17:39:10] petan: http://deployment.wmflabs.org/auth/wiki/Special:Oversight --> I think that's been removed now? as in, don't they only use rev delete? [17:39:22] will fix [17:39:36] I think on production it's still? [17:39:48] oh maybe it is, I'm no oversight [17:39:52] aha [17:39:56] it is [17:40:39] okay [17:40:52] also, don't stewards usually have to give themselves oversight/checkuser before they can actually checkuser? [17:41:01] hm yes [17:41:05] does it work to you? [17:41:11] it doesn't to me [17:41:16] it allows me to oversight [17:41:21] on english? [17:41:25] it should only on auth [17:41:39] ah I tried on auth [17:41:43] * Thehelpfulone tries on english [17:42:31] I can still oversight [17:42:58] yep, can still oversight on en too [17:43:10] using rev delete I mean, to hide from admins [17:44:12] yup [17:44:13] that's ok [17:47:26] Thehelpfulone: if you could create a logo for all sites it would be great [17:47:47] since this is a wmf project you can use wmf logos just type "Deployment test" over it [17:47:51] or something like that [17:48:53] I'm not quite sure how to [17:49:07] hm... like test wikipedia has [17:49:19] but if you aren't good with images np [17:49:25] I hope someone create some later :D [17:49:49] I mean I've got photoshop [17:49:59] if someone has the PSD i can edit ;) [17:50:16] aha [17:50:23] dunno [17:50:38] although I imagine it would have been done on a free open-source software program [18:05:18] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Template:Huggle/warn-test-1 was modified, changed by Pol430 link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=470115476 edit summary: Article to page - to make relevant to all namespaces [18:19:10] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Members was modified, changed by Wfplb link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=470117891 edit summary: add beta tester [18:28:59] hi Elsensee [18:29:11] hi IWorld [18:51:30] hey petan, now im here :D [18:51:37] hey [18:52:01] pm me your google name please [18:55:28] done [18:55:32] you have access to svn [18:55:36] google name? [18:55:55] thanks :) [19:12:53] a question to LoginForm.Designer.cs in huggle3: [19:13:31] why we dont use preprocessor directives? [19:14:36] if you have idea please improve it [19:14:39] !broken [19:14:39] oh no it's broken so fix it! [19:14:44] :) [19:14:52] okay... :) [19:31:03] http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/detail?r=796 <-- so okay? [19:32:02] [huggle project updates - Google Code] r796 (preprocessor directives instead of if) committed by michel...@hotmail.de - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/detail?r=796 [19:33:02] oh... [19:33:04] xD [19:53:27] finally back [20:18:35] woah, backlog … [20:19:12] petan: what do you mean with changing targe(t)? [20:19:28] Config.Target [20:19:33] change it to linux32 [20:19:38] ah :) [20:19:40] befre you start [20:22:50] where would i do that?? :) [20:24:35] eh [20:24:37] config.cs [20:24:46] but it doesn't work properly anyway [20:25:09] what's stopping it? [20:25:22] do i have to add it? [20:26:09] is it _Platform? [20:27:32] wow, it works :) [20:27:45] heh [20:28:17] :) [20:37:48] “Bellow is the log:” is that intended? [20:38:39] is huggle3 in general not usable? [20:47:39] petan, I just tried to update HG3 to the new icon but I cannot see any change. Do you have any idea? [20:48:10] hm, sure I have [20:48:18] it can't be svg [20:48:22] convert it to jpg [20:49:24] It's a ico [20:50:17] can huggle remember login data? [20:52:18] petan: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Huggle_logo.svg [20:52:30] Giftpflanze: yes [20:52:37] cool [20:52:43] mmovchin: good work [20:53:13] when does it? after a successful login? [20:53:29] It's work of IWorld [20:53:32] because huggle3 in my case didn't [20:53:55] :) [20:55:59] i like the cvn logo [20:56:36] how about de-BOM-ing your code? [20:56:47] cvn? [20:57:07] countervandalism.net logo [20:59:25] omg: goto case; haven't seen that in a while :p [21:15:06] I just insereted the new logo to huggle [21:15:12] I think it looks great :D [21:21:02] [huggle project updates - Google Code] r797 (Updated Huggle Logo (Logo by IWorld)) committed by michael.movchin - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/detail?r=797 [21:24:46] now it doesn't compile properly anymore for me [21:27:02] with my change? [21:27:10] which error? [21:28:41] the platform error [21:29:30] with my changes or without? [21:30:38] may be related to switching to distribution mono [21:30:56] ok [21:31:08] If not: Feel free to ask me reverting my changes. [21:33:01] [huggle project updates - Google Code] r798 (Files forgotten...) committed by michael.movchin - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/detail?r=798 [21:35:33] * Thehelpfulone notes that the broom looks like a factory and he dislikes it :P [21:38:43] Thehelpfulone: the idea came from the chef. [21:41:12] hehe :) [21:41:44] I like it [21:42:55] mmovchin: i found it [21:43:46] what was it? [21:45:02] [huggle project updates - Google Code] r799 (Layout (Why we have the ssl option after the status bar? Fix...) committed by michael.movchin - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/detail?r=799 [21:46:46] congratulation! 800 revisions! [21:46:58] Hey, I hust made the 80.. revision :D http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/detail?r=800 [21:47:02] thanks [21:47:15] the chef? [21:47:22] ... [21:48:11] he means petan :D [21:48:12] sorry, I meant the project leader... :-( [21:48:21] will be back in 10 mins [21:49:39] hey you don't have to do stuff how I tell you :D [21:49:47] that's ok [21:52:44] mmovchin: see http://toolserver.org/~gifti/huggle3-snapshot0.png [21:54:46] and patch for you: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/531492/ [21:57:02] [huggle project updates - Google Code] r800 (More Layout changes) committed by michael.movchin - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/detail?r=800 [22:00:18] back [22:04:04] Giftpflanze, where I should inseret it? [22:10:15] just apply it :p [22:10:21] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Members was modified, changed by Elsensee link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=470156320 edit summary: +me [22:11:08] re Elsensee [22:11:12] hm... [22:11:20] not really ;) [22:11:22] good night [22:11:34] gn8 [22:13:19] good night! [22:22:02] [huggle project updates - Google Code] r801 (Fix (thanks to Giftpflanze)) committed by michael.movchin - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/detail?r=801 [23:17:21] !helpme [23:17:21] no one is around? That's bad :( try !feedback [23:21:15] hello techman223 [23:21:20] oops [23:21:27] techman224 [23:21:46] I can't log into Huggle for commons [23:21:59] Huggle is currently incompatible with Commons. [23:22:17] Then why is it in the project list? [23:22:43] We will fix it as soon as possible [23:22:50] I think with HG3 it should work [23:32:37] ok, looks like I have to do it the old fashioned way [23:42:14] libgluezilla not found. To have webbrowser support, you need libgluezilla installed [23:42:41] login-progress-local [23:43:06] which language du you use? [23:43:29] de [23:43:47] try en, please