[00:30:44] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Users was modified, changed by Mmovchin link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=476550604 edit summary: Adding [[Special:Contributions/Mmovchin|Mmovchin]] ([[WP:HG|HG]]) [01:06:57] Good night! [11:16:15] petan? [14:48:16] Why in 2.1.19 the home page is WP:HG and not the regular intro? [14:51:15] yes [14:51:25] ah, that's a bug [15:04:34] Petan|wk do you have some minutes to talk to me? [16:01:19] petan or petan|wj [16:01:27] *petan|wk [16:01:37] please tell me when you get some free minutes :P [16:44:55] mmovchin: I have 10 min [16:45:39] maybe just ask in a channel and I will read it later and reply [16:46:27] ok I'm here [16:46:32] right [16:46:37] Look: I speaked with IWorld [16:46:55] We would like to get nearly to Wikimedia with Huggle [16:46:57] f.e.: [16:47:12] ? [16:47:12] - Mailing List (for announces, new versions, etc.) [16:47:25] ok [16:47:28] - Another Mailing List for discussion and support [16:47:41] I think we could have a one mailing list only for both [16:47:52] community of huggle users is not so large [16:48:12] - Maybe it's possible to move the svn on Google to wikimedia svn? [16:48:19] not a good idea [16:48:31] svn is being migrated to git on wikimedia [16:48:38] until it's done, creating a project folder there is complicated [16:49:00] also having own repo has many benefits [16:49:18] ok [16:49:40] maybe after it's migrated we could move it there [16:49:43] Mailing list: I think not many want to read all the discussions. But many want to get an email when a new version gets out [16:49:51] depends [16:50:01] I don't think there is going to be many discussions actually [16:50:11] OK [16:50:17] We could try it with one mailing list [16:50:25] but it makes sense to separate it, I just don't think many people would send mails to it [16:50:44] so even if we had one list it would be quite inactive and used probably only by devs [16:50:52] We could just try it. I don't think it would be bad. [16:51:11] right, let's try to start a one list for now, we can set up another one later [16:51:18] yes [16:51:26] We cannot set a mailing list up [16:51:31] huh? [16:51:40] If we want a wikimedia mailing list we have to open a ticket on bugzilla [16:51:43] let me do that... [16:51:46] ok [16:51:47] thanks :) [16:51:48] I am a wikimedia dev [16:51:54] ok [16:52:10] So that means you don't have to open a ticket? :P [16:52:42] probably :)' [16:52:44] let's see [16:52:50] I ask folks from ops [16:53:35] thank you [17:48:58] hi guys [17:49:05] just requested a mailing list for you [17:49:16] eh, petan just requested it, i created it [17:49:54] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle [17:56:04] thank you mutante [17:56:12] How to get admin access to it? [17:56:27] Have the developers admin access to it? [17:57:27] mmovchin: for now Petan has access, because he openened the ticket to create it [17:57:58] mmovchin: i suggest you talk to him then about adding additional admins or mods [17:58:09] ok thanks [17:58:17] i agree there should be more than one, though, yep [17:58:17] thank you mutante [17:58:26] yw! [17:59:57] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Users was modified, changed by SupernovaExplosion link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=476683738 edit summary: Adding [[Special:Contributions/SupernovaExplosion|SupernovaExplosion]] ([[WP:HG|HG]]) [18:00:19] mmovchin: it should be open for subscription without approval though (just email verify) [18:03:36] It is [18:03:41] I just subscriped [18:06:05] mmovchin: I made you a mod [18:06:08] of list [18:07:50] I don't really have much experiences so please try to make yourself able to moderate it, I don't even know how mods can access the mods tools, trying to find out [18:09:05] petan thanks [18:09:50] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/admindb/huggle [18:09:55] <--mod. login [18:10:04] moderated list? [18:10:17] oh right, but that's for admin, or even for mods? [18:10:24] when I check mod in user list [18:10:32] petan: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/admin/huggle = admin [18:10:36] aha [18:10:38] petan: note how "admin" vs. "admindb" [18:11:10] ok, but which pw I need to use [18:11:18] the "initial list pass" [18:11:23] you can then change it [18:11:24] And which pw I need to use? [18:11:27] ah ok [18:11:58] petan: also an admin needs to subscribe to the list... [18:12:15] dont be confused by this, mod and admin are NOT flags of users [18:12:19] they are just passwords [18:12:27] What is the moderation pw? [18:12:32] and "being" an admin is not even related to being a list member [18:12:59] ah [18:13:07] I checked mod in mmovchin's email [18:13:20] probably something wrong [18:13:34] ah,ehm.. did you set a moderator password ? [18:13:47] no [18:13:50] I d#t [18:13:57] didn't [18:14:09] petan should be able to set it, using the initial password [18:14:19] why the list is moderated? [18:14:52] this is the default, but from my experience if its not, we will soon have tickets about setting it back , because of spam [18:15:05] ok [18:15:08] it's done [18:15:23] it does NOT ask for approval when new people subscribe [18:15:40] but it will f.e. ask for approval, if somebody sends mail to the list, who is NOT a subscribed user [18:15:59] it does not mean it will ask for approval for every mail of an existing list member [18:16:03] I checked mod [18:16:06] but you can discuss and change settings [18:16:07] that's problem [18:16:18] petan: can we use for the GUI Qyoto? [18:16:21] it means I need to confirm emails from that address [18:16:33] IWorld: whatever if it's cross platform [18:16:44] IWorld: or what you talk about [18:17:02] petan: heh, yes, that makes him moderat_ed , not moderat_or .. very common issue when using mailman [18:17:26] its a bit confusing.everybody expects permissions to be user flags [18:17:30] petan: or what you talk about [18:17:33] sry [18:17:39] http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Qyoto [18:17:58] IWorld: ah, so long as it work with c# and in all platforms it's ok [18:18:17] ok [18:18:31] but you should start a talk related to that, on mail list :) [18:19:07] we just created it now [18:19:31] mh [18:19:58] !ml is https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle [18:19:58] Key was added! [18:20:04] !mail alias ml [18:20:05] Successfully created [18:20:30] !ml [18:20:30] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle [18:20:33] !mail [18:20:33] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle [18:20:35] super :D [18:21:29] Why I cannot view a list of all subscribers? [18:21:53] I made it restricted for privacy reasons [18:22:04] ok [18:22:07] I don't know if people really want to expose their email to all subscribers [18:22:20] could you make it viewable to mods? [18:22:26] no [18:22:28] ok :P [18:22:29] there are 3 options [18:22:35] all / subscribed / admin [18:22:40] ok nP [18:23:10] the only jop of a mod is to look after messages which need moderator approval? [18:23:11] ok [18:23:17] *job [18:24:41] hm... I don't know [18:24:47] maybe I could make you admin then] [18:25:26] I will send you admin pw, I see mod can't really do much [18:25:43] petan: can I change the topic? [18:25:53] yes [18:26:04] * #huggle :You're not a channel operator [18:26:28] ah [18:26:55] ok? [18:26:59] Thanks IWorld [18:27:05] I think we don't need tinyurl [18:27:10] Or? [18:27:13] ok [18:28:24] Thanks petan [18:28:38] thanks IWorld [18:28:45] Weren't you channel op? [18:28:56] no [18:29:03] :o [18:30:34] oh ok? [18:30:38] *-? [18:33:03] Didn't know before that I'm op :P [18:33:21] usually all people with svn are [18:33:33] + these who ask [18:34:22] ok [18:34:28] ah# [18:34:35] -"#" [18:40:20] * mmovchin will be back in 5-10 minutes [18:41:27] * petan will be back in 12 hours [18:41:47] oh [18:43:08] :O [18:44:53] * mmovchin is back [18:45:27] * mmovchin is missing petan :( [18:45:36] meh [18:45:56] Really away for 12 hours? [18:46:03] going to be [18:46:08] :( [18:46:12] why [18:46:26] I will work on wikipedia until 02:00 AM here [18:46:31] heh [18:46:34] thats 6 hours [18:46:43] and +15 mins [18:46:47] :D [18:46:52] Wikipedia-de [18:46:55] Wikipedia-en [18:46:59] Huggle <3 [18:47:21] And some wikipedia projects [18:47:28] petan: qyoto = qt = cross-platform [19:46:41] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle was modified, changed by Mmovchin link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=476702607 edit summary: [19:48:01] Thanks wm-bot :) [20:53:18] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Header was modified, changed by IWorld link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=476713615 edit summary: better [20:53:19] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Header was modified, changed by IWorld link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=476713615 edit summary: better [20:54:44] hello matthewrbowker [20:56:55] mmovchin: Hi! [21:01:47] hi matthewrbowker [21:18:01] [huggle project updates - Google Code] issue 220 (Incorrect detection of Rollback Permissions) commented on by trappman...@gmail.com - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/issues/detail?id=220#c2 [21:18:02] [huggle project updates - Google Code] issue 221 (Reporting of Vandals in ptwiki) reported by chicocve...@gmail.com - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/issues/detail?id=221#c0 [21:18:03] [huggle project updates - Google Code] issue 222 (Patch for /trunk/huggle/Localization/kn.txt) reported by mghar...@gmail.com - http://code.google.com/p/huggle/issues/detail?id=222#c0 [22:40:40] Pentabot took a while to report these issues... [22:41:37] I created the 221 11 days ago! [22:51:50] I saw it :P [22:53:12] @chicocvenancio: I saw it :P [23:42:42] by the way, in ptwiki huggle doesnt detect if the warned users had other warnings by different hugglers. Is this normal? [23:54:08] No it is not. [23:54:18] Could you please link me an example? [23:54:46] @chicocvenancio