[00:19:02] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by 7 link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=476924127 edit summary: /* Reporting to AIV after first vandalism revert */ we used to call those "undocumented enhancements" [01:30:03] [huggle3 project updates - Google Code] r253 (Move some graphical stuff around [01:30:04] ) committed by adamshor...@gmail.com - http://code.google.com/p/huggle3/source/detail?r=253 [01:30:05] [huggle3 project updates - Google Code] r254 (main, gui) committed by benapetr - http://code.google.com/p/huggle3/source/detail?r=254 [01:30:06] [huggle3 project updates - Google Code] r255 (work in progress do not build pls) committed by benapetr - http://code.google.com/p/huggle3/source/detail?r=255 [04:55:39] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Jim1138 link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=476954862 edit summary: Advancing revisions [08:13:14] !helpme [08:13:14] no one is around? That's bad :( try !feedback [09:00:54] hi mmovchin [09:07:56] hello IWorld [09:36:22] What could be better than a coffee in the morning? [10:17:38] caffeinated soap from thinkgeek, shower and coffee at the same time. (but i didnt try it yet;) [10:23:45] heh [10:29:33] @add ##thesecretlair [10:59:15] !helpme [10:59:15] no one is around? That's bad :( try !feedback [11:00:25] petan or petan|wk? [11:03:56] !log [11:03:56] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/logs/%23huggle/ [11:24:35] !helpme [11:24:35] no one is around? That's bad :( try !feedback [11:24:43] !feedback [11:24:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WT:HG [11:24:49] hmm [12:54:38] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Download was modified, changed by Bmusician link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=476997201 edit summary: /* Requirements */ redundant period [12:54:39] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Download was modified, changed by Bmusician link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=476997201 edit summary: /* Requirements */ redundant period [13:03:05] eta for huggle 3 beta release? [13:04:03] eta? [13:05:28] hi [13:05:28] Huggle 3 Beta comes perhaps in the second quarter of 2012. [13:05:38] I would rather say later [13:05:50] there is very slow progress in that [13:05:50] ah [13:05:53] ok [13:06:09] we need more developers who would help [13:06:09] Huggle 3 Beta comes in 2012/2013 ;-) [13:06:48] give to current number of devs it's hard to maintain the current version [13:07:43] ah [13:07:46] can someone fix the topic, supporter S [13:07:48] + s [13:08:07] :o [13:08:41] I have created an entry message. [13:08:50] really? [13:08:53] cool [13:09:26] If you join, ChanServ writes a message to you. [13:09:33] ok [13:10:16] The message is: [13:10:17] Welcome at the official IRC channel of Huggle! If you need help, type !helpme. Don't flood the channel, please. (use http://bit.ly/yQ2yzR) The current stable is: 2.1.18. Supporters are voiced. [13:11:09] thank you IWorld :) [13:11:14] * mmovchin is going to test it [13:11:16] :-) [13:11:18] Welcome to the [13:11:19] :P [13:11:26] or Welcome in the [13:11:38] ok [13:11:52] (14:11:44) ChanServ: (notice) [#huggle] Welcome at the official IRC channel of Huggle! If you need help, type !helpme. Don't flood the channel, please. (use http://bit.ly/yQ2yzR) The current stable is: 2.1.18. Supporters are voiced. [13:11:53] If you need a help, and no one is responding, type !helpme [13:11:56] yeah it works :) [13:12:05] !helpme [13:12:06] no one is around? That's bad :( try !feedback [13:12:11] ... [13:12:15] !feedback [13:12:15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WT:HG [13:12:18] mh [13:12:24] can u fix it? [13:12:31] yes [13:12:33] also do we need to have version number in all messages? [13:12:43] who is going to update it :) [13:12:50] I am willing to update topic but that's all [13:12:59] I sometimes forget to update it even on wiki [13:13:30] I could change die version number on all wikis [13:13:37] die version? [13:13:44] the [13:13:45] damn [13:13:45] ah [13:13:47] sure [13:13:47] http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Huggle&diff=prev&oldid=3436905 [13:13:55] that was german :P [13:14:09] ok, but keep in mind it's a bug number of places to update [13:14:21] IWorld: Thanks for the information [13:14:23] big [13:14:29] :-) [13:14:51] Could we implement that when typing !helpme ChanServ or a bot types the name of all voiced supporters or send them a query? [13:15:10] yes, but I don't really like it :P [13:15:24] also helpme is already pinging some people including me [13:15:33] oh no, it's helper [13:15:35] Often when someone needs help I don't recognise it. [13:15:44] !helper [13:15:45] you can configure your client to ping on that [13:15:47] noooo [13:15:52] :D [13:15:52] people will get pinged [13:15:55] and complain [13:15:59] it's like ops [13:16:01] ok^^ [13:16:26] How to configurate pidgin to ping on that? [13:16:32] dunno [13:16:38] !helpme [13:16:38] no one is around? That's bad :( try !feedback [13:16:46] The Petanbot uses eggdrop?! [13:16:47] !help is mmovchin mmovchin mmovchin mmovchin [13:16:47] Key was added! [13:16:49] !help [13:16:49] mmovchin mmovchin mmovchin mmovchin [13:16:52] now it pings you [13:16:54] :) [13:16:56] done [13:17:21] mh [13:17:24] !help del [13:17:24] Successfully removed help [13:17:35] Mh [13:17:40] Can I add it again? :) [13:17:42] I like it [13:17:46] !help is petan, mmovchin! someone desperately wants you [13:17:46] Key was added! [13:17:47] And some more of us? [13:17:50] !help [13:17:50] petan, mmovchin! someone desperately wants you [13:18:02] !help is test [13:18:02] Key exist! [13:18:07] ok :) [13:18:13] Wait I will change it [13:18:17] and make it besser [13:18:18] !help del [13:18:18] Successfully removed help [13:18:24] !help is If you need help, ask a voiced user or write an email to huggle@lists.wikimedia.org. [13:18:24] Key was added! [13:18:41] !helpme del [13:18:42] Successfully removed helpme [13:18:46] !helpme alias help [13:18:46] Successfully created [13:18:48] !helpme [13:18:48] If you need help, ask a voiced user or write an email to huggle@lists.wikimedia.org. [13:19:54] !help is If you need help, write an email to huggle@lists.wikimedia.org or ask a voiced user. Maybe petan or mmovchin are online? [13:19:54] Key exist! [13:20:06] !help del [13:20:06] Successfully removed help [13:20:09] !help is If you need help, write an email to huggle@lists.wikimedia.org or ask a voiced user. Maybe petan or mmovchin are online? [13:20:10] Key was added! [13:20:14] !help [13:20:14] If you need help, write an email to huggle@lists.wikimedia.org or ask a voiced user. Maybe petan or mmovchin are online? [13:20:19] ... [13:20:20] !helpme [13:20:20] If you need help, write an email to huggle@lists.wikimedia.org or ask a voiced user. Maybe petan or mmovchin are online? [13:20:27] !help del [13:20:27] Successfully removed help [13:20:45] mh [13:21:28] Can I revise the topic? [13:21:51] !help is If you need help, write an email to huggle@lists.wikimedia.org or ask a voiced user. Maybe petan, mmovchin, Elsensee or IWorld are online? [13:21:51] Key was added! [13:21:53] !help [13:21:53] If you need help, write an email to huggle@lists.wikimedia.org or ask a voiced user. Maybe petan, mmovchin, Elsensee or IWorld are online? [13:21:57] !helpme [13:21:57] If you need help, write an email to huggle@lists.wikimedia.org or ask a voiced user. Maybe petan, mmovchin, Elsensee or IWorld are online? [13:22:00] super [13:22:08] :-) [13:22:13] Is everyone permitted to change or delete keys? [13:22:20] Or only voiced users? [13:22:27] everyone [13:22:33] oh ok :( [13:23:50] @trusted [13:23:50] I trust: petan.*wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wiki.edia/.* (2trusted), .*nch-4d047f31\.pool\.mediaWays\.net (2trusted), petan\|w.* (2trusted), [13:24:43] petan|wk: why you're not an opped or voiced user? [13:24:51] why should I be [13:25:07] mh [13:25:11] my host is ~Michael@wikimedia/mmovchin [13:25:20] Why I'm not trusted? [13:25:21] @trusted [13:25:21] I trust: petan.*wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@wiki.edia/.* (2trusted), .*nch-4d047f31\.pool\.mediaWays\.net (2trusted), petan\|w.* (2trusted), [13:25:27] @whoami [13:25:27] You are admin identified by name .*@wikimedia/Petrb [13:25:28] try it [13:25:30] you are [13:25:36] if you weren't you couldn't change the key [13:25:42] @whoami [13:25:42] You are trusted identified by name .*@wiki.edia/.* [13:26:17] @whoami [13:26:17] You are trusted identified by name .*@wiki.edia/.* [13:26:20] ok [13:26:24] :) [13:26:27] :-) [13:27:00] Is the topic ok like I changed it? [13:27:06] mh [13:27:17] idc [13:27:24] It's very long... [13:27:27] heh [13:27:44] IWorld, please add to the welcome message the !help-key [13:27:56] ok [13:28:08] : [13:28:09] :o [13:28:23] !helpme -> !help? [13:28:23] If you need help, write an email to huggle@lists.wikimedia.org or ask a voiced user. Maybe petan, mmovchin, Elsensee or IWorld are online? [13:28:25] @search help [13:28:25] Results (found 1): help, [13:28:42] @search hug [13:28:42] Results (found 10): bug, code, huggle3, sourcecode, wmf, private, list, ml, log, help, [13:28:49] !bug [13:28:49] http://code.google.com/p/huggle/issues/detail?id=$1 [13:28:53] !huggle3 [13:28:53] next version of huggle which is available in /branches/c#/ [13:28:56] ah [13:29:02] !private [13:29:02] huggle isn't supported on private wikis but it is possible to change the source code so that it run on any other wiki [13:29:08] What's about: Need help? Type !help | Huggle: http://enwp.org/WP:HG | Feature request: http://enwp.org/WT:HG | Current stable: 2.1.18 | Huggle 3 in development | Repository: http://bit.ly/x9bHep | Supporters are voiced | Mailing list: http://bit.ly/xE7ila | Pasting > 3 lines? Use http://bit.ly/yQ2yzR | Logging allowed | If you want to contribute tell us [13:29:08] !todo [13:29:21] It's ok [13:30:02] It's shorter [13:30:17] -ChanServ- The entry message for #huggle has been set to Welcome in the official IRC channel of Huggle! If you need a help, and no one is responding, type !help. Don't flood the channel, please. (use http://bit.ly/yQ2yzR) The current stable is: 2.1.18. Supporters are voiced. [13:30:47] thanks [13:31:12] you can use http://toolserver.org/~mmovchin/paste/ as link [13:31:36] We don't need bit.ly in the welcome messsage [13:32:07] okay [13:32:33] btw I want to move the whitelist to labs right now [13:32:43] I would like to rid of ts at all [13:33:03] ok [13:33:04] why? [13:33:05] ok [13:33:25] petan|wk: can I change the icon of the test wiki? [13:33:30] because it's not so stable [13:33:36] icon? [13:33:49] logo / header [13:34:31] yes [13:34:38] ok [13:35:48] Why so many people are voiced? [13:36:20] And people whos computer is permanent online [13:36:58] probably because they wanted to be [13:37:03] I don't really care... [13:37:58] I have changed the logo. [13:38:01] ok [13:38:21] I think it would be better if you would narrow the list. Then people can see who they can turn to. [13:38:35] I used a trick: http://huggle.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&diff=prev&oldid=3540 [13:38:44] but these people who are voiced now are actually helpers at some point [13:38:53] at least they are able to help [13:38:55] I hope [13:39:04] or somehow affiliated with the project [13:39:06] :) [13:39:45] I don't really think that people are joining this channel so often [13:39:54] ok :) [13:39:59] I would rather use mailing list for support [13:40:06] irc is usefull mostly to devs [13:40:08] BTW: Where is Addshore? I haven't seem him a long time. [13:40:12] I have no idea [13:40:21] ok [13:40:41] but he said that he will be more active this year after he return back to school [13:40:54] Posts to our mailing list from userer that haven't subscriped to it have to be moderated [13:40:59] Do we really need this? [13:41:06] yes [13:41:09] because of spammers [13:41:14] How many peoples has joined the mailinglist? [13:41:30] *mailing list [13:41:33] sec [13:41:38] I will look it up [13:41:55] 11 [13:42:02] oh [13:42:10] with petan and me [13:42:24] pretty much [13:42:37] not [13:42:57] We should make more advertising for it :D [13:43:11] :D [13:43:14] in fact not many people use huggle now [13:43:21] so it's expected [13:43:34] many people are switching to other sw, like igloo [13:43:52] :( [13:43:58] HG is great [13:44:08] I <3 Huggle [13:44:26] !love is We <3 Huggle [13:44:26] Key was added! [13:44:28] !love [13:44:29] We <3 Huggle [13:44:32] :D [13:44:35] :P [13:45:06] what is the wikimedia bot? [13:45:13] this [13:45:19] ah ^^ [13:45:40] !wmboy [13:45:43] !wm-bot [13:45:43] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot [13:46:18] * mmovchin is downloading the Mediawiki SVN already 2 hours long [13:46:33] o.o [13:46:39] meh [13:46:41] :o [13:46:42] weird [13:47:02] if you are downloading all the crap we have there, no wonder [13:47:07] It's too big [13:47:10] over 1,5 GB [13:47:16] it probably fill your hdd up [13:47:16] I want to download it once [13:47:20] Then I can just update [13:47:28] How big is it? [13:47:31] no idea [13:47:47] oh no [13:47:49] If you moving the whitelist to the test wiki, we need a new name for the test wiki. [13:47:50] already over 3 GB [13:47:58] Why do we so? :o [13:48:25] I applied for commit access on mediawiki some weeks ago [13:48:42] that's normal [13:48:52] Sumana told me I have to fix some minor bugs on mediawiki :P [13:48:57] reason why we have own repo is that it's easier to get access on google [13:49:10] I already send Sumana a big .zip file with some Stuff I developed [13:49:40] you're mw developer, petan, right? [13:50:01] yes [13:50:19] Cou you please look over this here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30863 [13:50:28] And that patch: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34407 [13:50:40] hm... [13:50:55] Where's is the problem? :( [13:51:07] Just want to make sure it's ok so [13:53:07] sec [13:56:53] @IWorld: Welcome Message: If you need a help, ? [13:57:01] Not "If you need help"? [13:57:09] And please don't use bit.ly there :P [13:57:16] hmm [13:57:45] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111536 [13:57:51] done [13:59:22] Thank you petan! [14:04:05] the command to change the entry message is "/msg ChanServ set #huggle entrymsg text" [14:07:44] petan: when you move the whitelist? [14:08:58] Petan|wk when do you plan to release HG 2.1.19? [14:09:11] Please not on Friday :P [14:09:28] I will be offline most time this friday [14:10:06] Thursday? [14:10:24] And this saturday i will be 4 hour in a train [14:10:31] But with internet connection [14:11:12] 18.2 until 25.2 I'm not here in munich [14:11:47] petan|wk: how do Huggle check for updates? [14:12:14] likely on saturday or thursday [14:12:26] !metaconfig [14:12:26] settings http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Config [14:12:30] it reads this [14:12:45] ah [14:14:58] Then you can write the first release announce on the mailing list! [14:16:06] He alreay wrote something about HG 2.1.19 [14:17:25] link? [14:18:47] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/huggle/2012-February/000003.html [14:19:01] Why you didn't subscriped to the list, IWorld? [14:19:10] mh [18:02:22] so quiet here [18:02:32] yes [18:05:08] petan or petan|wk here? [18:05:20] I have a idea to get organized better and fester :) [18:05:27] about development of HG3 [18:06:13] What is the idea? [18:06:54] regular meetings [18:07:11] Where all the developers are here [18:07:32] and many beta testers [18:07:39] in the IRC? [18:07:44] yes [18:07:47] ah [18:08:00] For finding a good date we could use https://www.doodle.com/ [18:08:05] I have a premium account there [18:08:11] ah [18:13:30] good idea [19:04:04] hi vvv [19:04:09] Hello [19:04:16] Just wanted to ask when Huggle 3 is out [19:04:53] Summer 2012 or 2013... [19:05:12] we need developers [19:05:16] No beta yet? [19:06:17] The beta comes perhaps in the 2nd quarter of 2012. [19:08:08] Good luck [19:08:48] Thanks [19:10:58] !huggle3 [19:10:58] next version of huggle which is available in /branches/c#/ [19:11:04] !hg3 [19:11:16] !hg3 alias huggle3 [19:11:16] Successfully created [19:11:20] !hg3 [19:11:20] next version of huggle which is available in /branches/c#/ [19:11:38] * mmovchin is going to write a info-text about HG3 [19:20:24] !huggle 3 del [19:20:30] !huggle3 del [19:20:30] Successfully removed huggle3 [19:20:42] !huggle3 is The development of Huggle 2 has been stopped for inclusion of new features. Huggle 3 is written in C# and the main changes are: compatibility with Linux and Mac OS, scripting interface, own WebEngine, better performance and many other features (including those requested by you :) ). We are all concentrating on the development of this version; however, the release date of the first beta version should not be sooner than in End of 2012 / Beg [19:20:42] Key was added! [19:20:48] !huggle3 [19:20:48] The development of Huggle 2 has been stopped for inclusion of new features. Huggle 3 is written in C# and the main changes are: compatibility with Linux and Mac OS, scripting interface, own WebEngine, better performance and many other features (including those requested by you :) ). We are all concentrating on the development of this version; however, the release date of the first beta version should not be sooner than in End of 2012 / Beg [19:20:59] oh no :( [19:21:23] :( :( :( [19:22:51] petan or petan|wk: are you online? [19:23:55] hmm [19:47:36] !huggle 3 del [19:47:40] !huggle3 del [19:47:41] Successfully removed huggle3 [19:47:47] !huggle3 is See: http://toolserver.org/~mmovchin/paste/index.php?id=fe704d8017 [19:47:47] Key was added! [19:47:51] !huggle3 [19:47:51] See: http://toolserver.org/~mmovchin/paste/index.php?id=fe704d8017 [19:48:22] !hg3 | IWorld [19:48:22] IWorld: See: http://toolserver.org/~mmovchin/paste/index.php?id=fe704d8017 [19:48:42] !hg# [19:48:45] !hg [19:48:52] !hg alias !huggle3 [19:48:52] Successfully created [19:48:54] !hg [19:49:00] !hg [19:49:09] mh [19:49:14] !hg del [19:49:14] Unable to find the specified key in db [19:49:32] !hg alias huggle3 [19:49:32] Alias is already existing! [19:49:37] !hg [19:49:43] komisch [19:49:49] wayne [19:49:50] !hg [19:49:54] !hg3 [19:49:54] See: http://toolserver.org/~mmovchin/paste/index.php?id=fe704d8017 [19:49:57] !huggle3 [19:49:57] See: http://toolserver.org/~mmovchin/paste/index.php?id=fe704d8017 [19:50:02] Thanks wm-bot :) [20:10:49] What's "own web engine"? [20:16:40] vvv: our new rendering engine is WebKit [20:16:44] Yay! [20:17:05] I actually patched myself Huggle to add WebKit three years ago... [20:17:14] ...and now you do it for me! Thanks [20:17:31] :-) [20:20:08] :) [20:36:38] petan or petan|wk ?! [20:47:52] Hello Snowolf [20:48:03] 'evening mmovchin [20:48:17] hi Snowolf [20:48:39] and 'evening to you too, IWorld [20:48:49] :) [23:51:30] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Jim1138 link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=477097402 edit summary: Message warning a bit off