[04:07:14] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Users was modified, changed by JayJay link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=479592841 edit summary: Adding [[Special:Contributions/JayJay|JayJay]] ([[WP:HG|HG]]) [14:45:09] hey [14:45:18] I've seen that we moved to meta [16:14:36] hello [16:19:16] hi [16:19:49] @search conf [16:19:50] No results found! :| [16:20:00] @search con [16:20:01] No results found! :| [16:20:10] @regsearch .. [16:20:10] Results (found 29): download, metaconfig, feedback, linux, code, config, broken, sourcecode, mac, wm-bot, old, d, wmf, private, list, mac_dude, ml, man, log, help, love, huggle3, bb, todolist, todo, hugglepoll, paste, meeting, bug, [16:20:14] !meeting [16:20:14] Meeting will be on 4th March at 18:00 UTC (http://bit.ly/wijwZg) [16:22:33] petan|wk? huh? [16:22:43] Forgot when meeting will be? [16:22:50] yes [16:22:54] ah [16:23:12] I won't be here in IRC from tomorrow until sunday afternoon [16:23:46] just for your information [16:28:56] ok [16:29:09] btw that change of huggle pages should have been announced on list [16:29:22] like moving a download page from en to meta [16:29:29] I protected the page today [16:29:42] I think download page shouldn't be open [16:30:29] oh ok [16:30:42] Is it okay to move some pages when I think there are better on meta? [16:30:49] yes it is [16:30:54] but people should know it :) [16:31:07] also some links are broken in header [16:31:13] download point to link [16:31:19] it should be directly to meta [16:31:25] [[meta:Huggle/Download [16:31:27] etc [16:31:37] but I think it's better to move it to meta [16:32:03] actually there was a discussion related to a best wiki for such projects we couldn't find a good resolution for that [16:32:11] oh I forgot to change the header [16:32:21] meta is ok [16:34:09] ok, good [16:34:20] I will send out a mail to the list about that we moved this pages [16:34:25] ok [16:34:40] I think we should move all pages except feedback to meta [16:34:46] And that there may be further moves in the future [16:34:52] Yes, we shall. [16:34:58] did you import it or copied? [16:35:00] I will do it on Monday or Thursday [16:35:05] I imported them. [16:35:07] right [16:35:28] I asked Thehelpfulone for this [16:35:41] good [16:35:48] Or is there a special page for sysops to import? [16:35:52] yes [16:35:55] Oh [16:35:56] Special:Import [16:36:18] As I'm temp sysop until 22nd of March I could use this function [16:36:19] thanks [16:36:25] ok [16:36:40] we should definitely move change log [16:36:50] including documentation of config, that should be on mediawiki [16:37:19] we need to make a proper docs for config so that local sysops know how to cofigure huggle [16:37:28] lot of people ask for it [16:37:37] Yes, there is also a bug on bz for this [16:37:44] k [16:38:30] No, 34648 is something similar but not the same [16:38:32] !b 34648 [16:38:33] link https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34648 [16:38:43] I will ask for this on the HuggleCon [16:38:50] hm [16:38:53] right [16:39:34] Maybe someone wants to help me moving all important pages to meta (and fixing the links) and writing a good documentation for the configs [16:39:50] We need only a doc for ProjectConfig and User-Config, right? [16:39:56] Or also the global one? [16:40:00] these should be on mediawiki not meta [16:40:23] ah ok [16:40:30] Where exactly? [16:40:33] together with rest of docs, maybe even change log and such could be there [16:40:36] Manual:Huggle [16:40:39] !deocs [16:40:41] !docs [16:40:42] see [16:40:44] eh [16:40:45] !man [16:40:45] http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Huggle/$1 [16:40:52] @search ht [16:40:52] Results (found 21): download, metaconfig, feedback, linux, code, config, sourcecode, wm-bot, old, d, list, ml, man, log, huggle3, todolist, todo, hugglepoll, paste, meeting, bug, [16:41:14] !docs is manual http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Huggle [16:41:14] Key was added! [16:41:22] this one [16:41:26] ok [16:41:36] matthewrbowker works on that [16:42:00] I will approach this on the conference [16:42:07] Oh nice to here this [16:42:17] Is he planning to join the meeting? [16:42:35] dunno [16:43:18] ok [16:43:56] Oh, I need to introduce the new development and beta testing concept this sunday [16:44:06] nice [16:44:12] Not nice ;) [16:44:18] This is a lot of work [16:44:20] heh [16:44:44] But it's worth I hope [16:44:57] maybe yes for a testing definitely yes [16:45:06] I wanted to set up some rules for repository too [16:45:15] Yes, that would be good [16:45:18] coding style and such [16:45:28] we need to have a different for both languages [16:45:35] Especially we need to make a new bug for every bug we're fixing [16:45:41] in BZ [16:45:44] depends [16:45:52] if it's a trivial bug we likely don't need to do that [16:46:03] or a bug in devel version, it's actually full of bugs [16:46:17] we should make a ticket for bugs in released sw [16:46:29] Yes, that's what I mean [16:46:30] so if there is a bug in latest huggle, then yes let's make a ticket [16:46:31] Then we can perform well even the beta testers. [16:46:46] But I'm also making tickets for my own "todos" [16:46:49] small bugs should be only mentioned in release notes [16:46:55] Bugs that I found I'm reporting, too. [16:47:03] I would rather have a wiki page for todos [16:47:30] Yeah, but I can assign it to someone other, if I don't have time to fix something, f.e. [16:47:41] And you can view and save all details of a bug in BZ [16:47:45] yes but todo list for hg 3 is huge [16:47:52] it would be like thousands of tickets [16:48:09] Yes, you're right. [16:48:31] In future we need to make some big issues on BZ for the biggest features [16:48:47] Not for every button, field, mask, etc. of course ;) [16:49:06] But at least there's still no concept for HG3 [16:49:13] there is one [16:49:15] in my head [16:49:19] Heh :P [16:49:23] Write it down please [16:49:26] where [16:50:02] And visualize it if you have some time. Use MS Visio, Photoshop, Paint or something you want :P [16:50:09] You can send it to the ML [16:50:11] heh [16:50:51] Or take a pencil and paper and draw Huggle3, as you imagine. ;) [16:51:13] We also need a design concept so we know where to place all that awesome features ;) [16:51:25] preferable as plugins [16:51:32] I will draw my own idea, scan it and send to the ML ;) [16:51:44] huggle 3 is going to be very light [16:51:57] But also powerful [16:52:28] ok I go [16:52:29] bye [16:52:32] OK, cu [17:09:14] Hello Thehelpfulone :) [17:16:12] hi mmovchin :)