[12:59:52] pong petan [13:00:05] addshore you know how I am working on that irc client [13:00:12] yep :P [13:00:14] I discovered it didn't run on linux much [13:00:20] so I rewrote it to GTK [13:00:29] I think we need to do same with huggle [13:00:34] or it's not going to work on linux [13:00:40] xD [13:00:50] GTK is really very fast here [13:00:53] now I am in linux [13:00:57] it works briliant [13:00:59] someone keeps trying to reset my wiki password :/ [13:01:04] heh [13:01:14] anyway, that's alot of work rewriting all forms [13:01:21] I don't know if it's a good idea [13:01:30] however sooner we start less work we will have [13:01:47] I am afraid that if we continue working as now we will figure out huggle will not work on linux and all other platforms [13:02:19] which would suck [13:02:35] I don't know... [13:02:38] hard decision :P [13:03:04] I hate idea of rewriting all these forms, my irc client has like 6 forms which are quite simple [13:03:08] but huggle... meh [13:03:21] :/ [13:03:31] there is no good graphical editor for GTK [13:03:37] well, it sounds like it is definatly better to do it now xD [13:03:41] so design of windows is typically done by writing code [13:03:48] ugh [13:03:48] which is slow and hard [13:03:50] :/ [13:04:01] there must be something got gtk design.. [13:04:02] you can use some editors but they are far more complicated [13:04:06] yes there is glade [13:04:08] and xamarin [13:04:23] I was using the xamarin editor, which is similar to what is in visual studio [13:04:30] but it's worse [13:04:41] yep, just spotted glade [13:04:50] you can draw some basic layout but still lot of stuff needs to be done in editor [13:04:54] mhhm [13:05:17] GTK aren't very complicated though, lot of stuff is much simpler in that [13:05:30] tbh making windows in it is quite fun [13:05:44] like you can use html like syntax to design the text of components [13:05:59] like button.Text="bold text" [13:06:12] you can use it even for tool tip :D [13:06:14] etc [13:06:31] but on windows it's a bit ugly [13:06:49] .net default forms are more cute [13:07:18] I could show you some examples on my irc client but you would need to compile it yourself because there is no release so far [13:08:03] also if you write it in GTK you need to bundle libraries with your application so that it works [13:08:12] installer has some 20MB more [13:10:02] HAH! [13:10:38] could we not keep the forms we currently have, as well a build gtk ones [13:10:56] and have a seperate release fron nix and win using the seperate forms? :/ [13:11:16] our then would be be maintaining 2 totally seperate codesets also? [13:11:22] yes I was thinking of that as well [13:11:48] it wouldn't even need to consist of 2 codesets [13:11:59] we could create 2 projects and make them share the core files [13:12:07] like 2 .sln files in root [13:12:22] but it would mean duplicate efforts when creating GUI [13:12:54] GTK are more powerfull so I decided to switch completely in my client [13:13:06] but in huggle, we can keep it. However GTK comes with gecko [13:13:12] which would be nice to have [13:13:19] otherwise huggle will use IE core [13:13:20] :P [13:13:24] which isn't good [13:23:14] eww IE :p [13:23:50] well, if they are deved side by side it could always be decided that gtk is better and just dump the windows forms ;p [18:02:54] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Users was modified, changed by Josve05a link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=547849131 edit summary: [+46] Adding [[Special:Contributions/Josve05a|Josve05a]] ([[WP:HG|HG]])