[01:13:03] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Vitor Mazuco link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=594912023 edit summary: /* Huggle */ [02:29:26] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle was modified, changed by Josh3580 link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=594920226 edit summary: Changed release version to reflect the release of 2.1.22 [08:25:49] addshore: no need to fix that in localconf [08:26:06] if you don't like anythin on new GUI than maybe you should tell me what it is [10:38:29] petan: it just looks odd :P [10:38:46] ut im not sure if its just because im so used to the old UI so I was going to wait a bit and then think about it again :P [12:14:44] addshore: you can reorganize the widgets [12:14:58] unlike in old gui where it was all hard coded [13:31:13] %trusteed [13:31:14] %trusted [13:31:15] I trust: petan!.*@wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), [13:32:14] %trusted [13:32:14] I trust: [13:32:17] %part [14:42:58] hehe petan :> [14:43:16] oddly i cant build huggle any more :P get a few build errors [14:43:18] oh the joy! [14:44:28] idk why [14:44:33] it works so well to me on linux :D [14:44:35] even on windows [14:46:38] :P [14:46:44] it was wokring really well yesterday :P [14:47:29] and the odd thing is that nothing has changed... [14:47:46] [02huggle] 07addshore pushed 033 commits to 03master [+0/-0/±45] 13http://git.io/LL1rmQ [14:47:48] [02huggle] 07addshore 037e9a23b - Remove ClassDiagram [14:47:49] [02huggle] 07addshore 034e0b097 - Remove a repeated incorrect copy paste comment [14:47:50] [02huggle] 07addshore 03a200d76 - Remove a bunch of duplicated functions [14:50:37] hmm, its built after I did a clean first [14:52:38] petan: one thing I noticed is the font difference xD [14:53:06] uh [14:53:10] font where? [14:53:18] difference between huggle 2 and 3? [14:53:18] diffs [14:53:21] yup [14:53:27] I have them running side by side now :P [14:53:32] yes it uses completely different way to load diff [14:53:51] huggle 2 download them from website [14:53:54] huggle 3 downloads only the content using api and build the html code itself [14:54:03] ahhh [14:54:06] that is one of many reasons why it's so much faster [14:54:06] think I prefer the old diffs ;p [14:54:14] hehe [14:54:17] then make the new diffs look same [14:54:23] it's not that hard to alter the html code [14:54:25] which file should I be looking at? :P [14:54:41] also the width of diffs should be restricted :P [14:54:48] https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/blob/master/huggle/Resources/Header.txt [14:54:58] yes but i don't know css so well [14:55:03] if you know how to do that [14:55:26] :D [14:57:11] how did you say I can get the current html of the diff in hg3? [14:57:31] help -> debug -> dump html [14:57:44] balls guess I need to turn it on! [14:57:50] you need to set verbosity at least 1 so that you can see it [14:57:54] can you tell me how agin :> [14:57:58] :D [14:58:01] set verbosity where? [14:58:03] run huggle.exe -v [14:58:08] ahhh [14:58:14] that is verbosity 1 [14:58:25] huggle.exe --help [14:58:27] display more :P [14:58:45] wonder if I can make QtCreator automatically add -v when I run debug... [14:58:50] yes [14:58:57] in project::run [14:59:15] arguments [14:59:24] ahh, didnt see the switch at the top to go between build and run! [14:59:26] there is projects on side [14:59:28] yes [15:00:05] :) [15:00:23] so you got it building on windows then? :) thought you were having problems yesterday? [15:00:32] I never had [15:00:38] I just can't make ssl work on window [15:00:44] ahh [15:00:51] but I am running mings [15:00:53] yeh, I just downloaded the 2 things and rebuilt it and it worked! [15:00:54] * mingw [15:00:58] mhm [15:01:04] in running mingGw [15:01:16] ok you will be compiling the releases then XD [15:01:20] HAHA [15:01:50] gonna be at the hackathon this year? :P [15:01:55] yes [15:01:59] good :) [15:02:00] xD [15:02:06] but I really hope to get the scholarship :P [15:02:15] because both are too expensive for me :D [15:02:23] especially london one [15:02:46] amsterdam and berlin were much cheaper for me... [15:03:18] berlin is actually so close I could just travel there by my own car :D [15:03:37] :> [15:03:46] where does it save the dump to? [15:03:52] it ask you [15:03:55] for path [15:04:07] oh, it has to be a full path? [15:04:07] otherwise it's working directory [15:04:12] if you don't specify it [15:04:18] hmm, thats what I though, but I couldnt find it ;p [15:04:34] probably in one of release directories [15:04:40] QT creates directory for each build [15:04:44] it should be in that folder [15:04:59] C:\git\github\huggle\huggle3-qt-lx\build-huggle-Desktop_Qt_5_1_1_MinGW_32bit-Debug\debug [15:05:02] but not in there :P [15:05:15] meh [15:05:24] ok then I have no idea :P [15:05:33] qt uses some exotic work directory [15:05:55] ahhh [15:07:25] eww the diff is in a table :P [15:07:45] blame mediawiki [15:07:52] silly mediawiki [15:07:56] :) [15:08:30] btw addshore regarding hackaton [15:08:37] (09:21:36) addshore: I will pick u as preferred roommate for hackaton :P just FYI [15:08:43] :D [15:08:43] you don't seem to read irc logs :P [15:08:51] i get too many messages :< [15:08:54] hehe [15:08:59] this is 2 days old, or 1 [15:09:15] ahh, :P [15:09:19] maybe i totally missed it xD [15:09:27] yeah [15:13:09] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by 90.183.23.27 link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=594987055 edit summary: /* Huggle 3 and qt5 */ [15:14:52] either someone changed my name [15:14:55] or I forgot to log in [15:15:02] xD [15:23:16] btw addshore did you notice our to-do list as well as bugzilla tickets? [15:23:18] :o [15:23:24] just in case you didn't know what needs to be fixed / done [15:23:28] !todo [15:23:28] if you don't know what to work on, here is list: http://tools.wmflabs.org/huggle/docs/head/todo.html [15:29:32] Hello [15:31:13] !help [15:31:13] If you need help, write an email to huggle@lists.wikimedia.org or ask a voiced user. Maybe petan, mmovchin, Elsensee or IWorld are online? [15:31:39] ar393225: hi [15:32:14] huggle 2.1.21 Does not work [15:32:19] indeed [15:32:27] that's why we released 2.1.22 :-) [15:33:58] Can you give me version 2.1.22 [15:35:34] ar393225: its on the downloads page [15:35:41] I put it there last night :P [15:37:15] petan: which file handles the diff html again? [15:37:19] as in the html not the css :> [15:37:39] I don't know [15:37:42] :P [15:37:48] I think reedy might know that, I don't know mediawiki structure :/ [15:37:56] noo, i mean in huggle :P [15:37:57] it's generated by api.php [15:38:04] eh [15:38:06] hmm [15:38:16] so we literally just use the html returned by the api? [15:38:18] huggle takes what you saw and wrap it around the data returned by api.php [15:38:21] yes [15:38:27] mhhhm, kk [15:38:35] try to execute that api yourself you will see that garbage it returns [15:38:56] I created a ticket on bugzilla requesting better diff format and nobody care [15:38:59] * cares [15:39:25] do we use action=compare? [15:39:35] no we are using api.php [15:39:42] these have no such a thing [15:39:47] yes.. api.php?action=compare [15:40:10] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=compare&fromrev=594985590&torev=594861158 [15:40:31] this->DifferenceQuery->Parameters = "prop=revisions&rvprop=" + QUrl::toPercentEncoding( "ids|user|timestamp|comment" ) + [15:40:32] "&rvlimit=1&rvtoken=rollback&rvstartid=" + [15:40:33] QString::number(this->RevID) + "&rvdiffto=prev&titles=" + [15:40:34] QUrl::toPercentEncoding(this->Page->PageName); [15:41:36] this is what it request from mediawiki to get a diff [15:41:56] okayyyyyy [15:42:25] I think that action=compare returns same data, except rollback token etc [15:43:06] it's in wikiedit.cpp line 348 [15:43:53] so something like http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=ids|user|timestamp|comment&rvlimit=1&rvtoken=rollback&rvstartid=594861158&rvdiffto=prev&titles=Charan [15:44:11] so yes they return the same diff stuff [15:44:18] but we wrap that in a tag? [15:48:14] yes [15:48:22] including the css [15:48:25] thats the place I am trying to find :P [15:48:27] without css it's just raw html table [15:48:41] https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/tree/master/huggle/Resources [15:48:48] https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/blob/master/huggle/Resources/DiffBeginning.txt [15:48:53] this is

[15:48:55] :D [15:48:57] Bingo! [15:48:58] :D [15:49:10] ahh, aparently my search wasnt looking in .txt files! [15:49:13] hence I didnt find it :> [15:49:18] hehe [15:49:32] feel free to rename them to html [15:49:43] but given that these are parts of html I don't know if it would work [15:49:44] heh, it woudlnt have found that either :P [15:49:54] I was just looing in cpp files :P [15:50:06] no putting html to cpp files is nasty [15:50:11] indeed :P [15:53:12] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07addshore pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13http://git.io/05USIg [15:53:13] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07addshore 03ed3c271 - Fix widths of diffs Diffs require the colgroups to be present in the html of the table for them to be formatted correctly. [15:53:15] petan ^^ :) [15:53:29] thats the largest UI issue solved I think xD [15:53:48] ok now you can close all the bugs that were created because of that XD [15:53:52] hehe [15:54:26] where are they? :P [15:54:59] we using bugzilla or github issues? [15:55:09] both lol [15:55:18] eww :P [15:55:21] I prefer bugzilla but lot of people report bugs on github for some reason [15:55:33] so instead of slaping them I just look on both places [16:12:57] which do you prefer petan ? github or bugzilla? [16:13:29] bugzilla [16:14:04] we are even getting irc notifications for these [16:14:21] github's bug tool is too lame [16:14:31] it's too simple for me :P [16:14:33] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07addshore pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13http://git.io/cPe-xA [16:14:34] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07addshore 03da3d352 - Correct new message color [16:14:39] I need complicated big things :DD [16:15:16] addshore: you know about any system that would allow code reviews in gerrit / old svn style? [16:15:26] so that people could +1 -1 commits? [16:15:36] hmm, not really [16:15:43] just use github ;p gawd xD [16:15:49] currently there is no such a thing on github and it makes it extra hard to check which all commits were reviewed and which were not [16:16:10] could put it on gerrit :/ [16:16:14] NO [16:16:18] xD [16:16:18] I hate that thing :D [16:16:40] I wanted to use gerrit twice [16:17:03] xD [16:17:04] I always had to wait so many months for repository to be created that I lost my interest in working on these projects anyway [16:17:16] I know the feeling :P [16:17:48] I wrote an e-mail to github staff I needed to change some settings, they replied in 10 minutes [16:18:22] gerrit is pretty much wikimedia style - it's "proper solution that just doesn't work" [16:19:18] it's like this toolserver fiasco, they say that toolserver is wrong by design and decide to create a proper solution (tool labs) which majority of tool operators hate for various reasons :D [16:19:43] toolserver indeed was wrong by design but at least it worked... [16:21:43] whrres the code for the bit listing your recent actions in the bottom left? :P [16:22:05] this is going to be the worst part about this new huggle, trying to work out and remember where everything is! [16:22:55] addshore: did you even try opening the documentation? :P [16:23:00] I use it too [16:23:01] :D [16:23:09] oh yeh, i never looked at it yesterday as it was broke :P [16:23:10] !docs [16:23:11] manual http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Huggle [16:23:11] addshore: which "bit listing" [16:23:20] !askgaslg [16:23:22] what is that [16:23:38] urm, the bit listing for example the last person i sent a message to or warned etc. [16:23:43] ah this [16:23:44] !codedocs [16:23:47] let me check docs lol [16:23:51] >.> whats the key! [16:23:58] !doxy [16:23:59] http://tools.wmflabs.org/huggle/docs/head/ [16:24:25] :D [16:24:28] http://tools.wmflabs.org/huggle/docs/head/classHuggle_1_1History.html [16:24:30] addshore ^ [16:25:10] these docs are generated from the source right? :P [16:26:24] yes [16:26:42] yay :P [16:26:52] i dont see exactly where but yay xD [16:26:54] http://www.stack.nl/~dimitri/doxygen/manual/docblocks.html [16:27:01] in header files mostly :P [16:27:14] yup, just spotted them in .hpp [16:27:25] http://tools.wmflabs.org/huggle/docs/head/history_8hpp_source.html [16:31:14] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07benapetr pushed 032 commits to 03master [+0/-0/±6] 13http://git.io/mO3W1Q [16:31:15] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07benapetr 0307c0428 - HA I had work in progress here for days * comments * style * inserted 2 buttons in report form to select unselect all things [16:31:16] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07benapetr 032d1b959 - Merge branch 'master' of ssh://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx [16:37:12] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07benapetr pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13http://git.io/20DIkQ [16:37:14] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07benapetr 03fc804f1 - more comments [16:37:52] addshore: this is a good place to look for overview of all classes in huggle http://tools.wmflabs.org/huggle/docs/head/annotated.html [16:38:13] I saw ;p [17:10:31] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07addshore pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±3] 13http://git.io/ev3UEQ [17:10:32] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07addshore 03604533d - Use consisten sizes in the Q List things [17:31:28] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07addshore pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±1] 13http://git.io/uh-JfQ [17:31:29] [02huggle3-qt-lx] 07addshore 03a1159e0 - Condense login form This now looks more similar to the previous layout as well as making it a little bit smaller Everything that was present before is still present [17:39:26] petan: what naming standard are we using? [17:39:30] camelCase? :P [17:40:56] IMPORTANT: leading character is capital not lower case [17:40:59] found it ;p [17:46:54] why do capitals first? :P [17:46:55] its ugly ;p [17:50:55] addshore: no it's not ugly :P it's sane as well. I never understood the point of first letter small [17:51:09] it's popular but there is absolutely no justification for that [17:51:36] :P [17:51:42] so far I found the microsoft style (which they have in visual studio) most easily readable [17:52:20] btw according the research I found, best are underscored_variables :D but well, even I agree that's ugly [17:52:20] petan: The first-letter-small thing is a throwback from older languages like ML [17:52:35] Where identifiers starting with a capital had different meanings [17:52:46] E.g., in ML, a variable starting with a capital letter is assumed to be a type constructor [17:53:07] I don't think that such a language should be considered old, next to c [17:53:23] Pre-C languages had similar limitations [17:53:29] hmm [17:53:41] I belie Fortran and COBOL were case-sensitive in that respect [17:53:44] *believe [17:53:44] that is interesting, but still no point in using it here in c++ [17:53:59] petan: In C++, there is actually a standard that I was taught [17:54:10] Uppercase identifiers are used to indicate class and struct names [17:54:12] only thing you shouldn't do is variable prefixed with underscore and capital letter [17:54:15] like _Bla [17:54:28] everything else is a matter of preference [17:55:15] Perhaps [17:55:19] But that's what I was taught, anyway :P [17:55:28] I think that's UNIX-style C [17:55:45] I don't think there is anything like UNIX-style C, maybe GNU style [17:55:58] Something like that, I don't remember [17:56:03] Whatever it is, it's the standard I use :P [17:56:06] Oh, Java programmers do that too [17:56:20] Name classes starting with an uppercase letter, other identifiers starting with lowercase [17:56:33] I like the way microsoft use, it's extremely easy to read, other style cause me a headache [17:56:40] same in our php [17:56:43] especially these popular K&R styles [17:57:18] Well, consistency is more important than which style [17:57:28] Doesn't really matter what style is used as long as everyone agrees on it and sticks to it [17:58:00] I don't see much of a benefit in having extra naming for classes and different naming for everything else, if there was extra naming different for every kind of object, then maybe... :P [17:58:09] but just classes and the rest... that is weird [17:59:02] c++ contains namespaces too, functions, variables, these all can be local, global, static, constants or virtual... why classes should have extra style and other things not? :o [17:59:18] Classes aren't the only thing I style differently [17:59:25] I prefix private class methods with m_ [17:59:30] And private fields with f_ [17:59:41] names spacesw in ;php are treated as upper case first [17:59:42] I try to prefix any pointers I define with ptr [17:59:46] well, fortunately my IDE has colors for this kind of things :) [18:00:30] but yes doing this makes sense [18:00:37] especially pythonists should learn to do that [18:00:41] :P [18:00:43] Heh [18:00:55] because in python it's sometimes extra hard to figure out what type a variable has [18:01:04] But yeah, like I said, the most important thing for a project is to just agree on a style and go with it [18:01:20] There are so many different coding styles out there, having a debate over which one is best is difficult at best :P [18:01:36] indeed [18:01:42] For example, I can't staaaaaand putting spaces between parens :P [18:01:59] I don't like K&R (which waste majority of devs use) because it's so hard to find a matching bracket in that [18:02:07] (As in, I prefer if(object.method(var)) over if( object.method( var ) ) [18:02:10] ) [18:02:21] I do it other way [18:02:37] if (object.method()) [18:02:44] Ah [18:02:46] i dont really mind either way but havre got into the habbit of spacing now [18:03:18] well, fortunately modern ide's allow you to define own style and have auto-style feature [18:03:27] so you can actually write in any style then have it restyle it [18:03:47] according to project requirements [18:04:04] I should have probably push that qtcreator config file for this :P [18:04:14] heh [18:04:19] I don't use IDEs though [18:04:24] vim and nano all the way :P [18:04:29] :. [18:04:30] :/ [18:04:34] yes, but for something vim isn't so good [18:04:39] phpstorm is such a powerfull ide for php [18:04:47] it makes this QT creator look terrible [18:04:49] for example you can't launch debugger directly from vim and set up breakpoints in it [18:04:50] addshore: The only IDEs I use are Eclipse and VisualStudio [18:05:17] I do a lot of PHP coding though, so I should probably give phpstorm a try :P [18:05:20] also, vim has no wysiwig editor for gui, which is sometimes useful [18:05:30] True [18:05:33] Oh, that's another IDE I use [18:05:36] But not by choice [18:05:39] MATLAB ._. [18:05:40] FastLizard4: phpstorm is much better than eclipse in my book :) [18:06:42] addshore: I'll give it a try then :D [18:07:20] The only reason why I use Eclipse for my Java is because it has nice Apache Maven support :P [18:08:31] i believe phpstorm does too :) [18:08:41] it even has stupid things like pupper support [18:08:44] puppet [18:08:51] puppet <3 [18:09:05] I now use it on all my servers :D [18:09:06] Heh, puppet [18:09:06] :P [18:09:10] it made my life so simple heh [18:09:18] It's one of the things I should probably learn one day [18:09:22] But I can't be arsed to do :P [18:09:35] puppet is nice, also used ansible a bit [18:09:39] not sure which i prefer [18:09:40] well if you have multiple servers you need to manage, this can make it far easier [18:10:08] I was trying to get cfengine working, because that is only thing that is written in sane language [18:10:14] unlike puppet which is in ruby [18:10:35] cfengine is very fast and consumes minimal operating memory, unfortunately, setup is pretty hard [18:10:35] ansible is all yaml based [18:10:38] Yeah, I spent eight hours the other day deploying a new VPS [18:10:38] in python [18:10:39] :P [18:10:44] python bleh [18:10:49] cfengine is pure c [18:10:56] no boost and shit like that [18:10:58] heh, you dont need to go near the python code though :P [18:11:09] yes, but you have to execute it [18:11:09] Any out there in Prolog? :P [18:11:12] that is my problem [18:11:27] python code eats horrible amount of CPU and resources [18:11:42] it's pretty much same slow mastodon like ruby [18:12:13] one puppet process eats from 50mb to 200mb of resident ram [18:12:26] one cfengine process eats from 0.6mb to 2mb of ram [18:12:38] it does both the same [18:16:24] You think that's bad [18:16:29] Try running a Minecraft server :P [18:16:32] (They're written in Java) [18:16:47] heh [18:17:11] every language with garbage collector is like that, and it's not always fault of gc [18:17:38] Garbage collectors are for the laaaaazy :P [18:18:04] yes, these lazy people are causing the troubles, not gc :P [18:18:25] but hell, I even wrote own garbage collector just for huggle :D [18:18:53] Heh [18:19:06] I have Huggle listed in my Steam client [18:19:12] So whenever I open it up [18:19:21] "FastLizard4 is now in-game: WP:HUGGLE" [18:19:43] lol [18:19:43] :P [18:19:53] FastLizard4: played with HG3 then? :D [18:20:11] addshore: Actually, I haven't yet [18:20:32] petan: we should add some sort of usage tracking? :P [18:20:49] isn't HAN enough for that? [18:21:06] I have precise overview of who is using huggle and which version already :D [18:21:34] since every client with working IRC connects to specific channel and display huggle build ID in quit message [18:21:46]