[03:09:28] out of curiosity, is the enwp rollback requirement technical-based or policy based? in other words, what would happen if someone pulled the source and compiled a version that didn't check for rollback? [03:17:36] anybody? [03:18:48] technical [03:18:56] nice try ;) [03:20:54] Ok, follow up. A couple years ago, I did just that. Why did it work? [03:28:56] Gilderien ? [03:30:17] now that is surprising [03:31:10] I knew that some applications (AWB) which has approved lists could be altered like that [03:31:56] iirc, i (somehow) managed to make it ignore project config [03:32:17] I was led to believeit made the "one-click" edit one your behalf [03:32:19] hmm [03:32:35] there was a little diagram and everything :( [03:33:32] I know in settings it has a non-admin rollback, which is (presumably) designed for wikis that don't require rollback [03:33:46] but it's not supposed to let you sign in w/o rollback on en [03:33:50] hmm [03:34:12] that is very intereesting [03:34:53] lemme see if i can find what i changed [03:35:48] ok [05:05:25] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Dspradau link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=619768923 edit summary: /* So far, so good */ new section [05:05:42] Change on 12en_wikipedia a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Dspradau link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=619768953 edit summary: /* So far, so good */ [07:23:37] 3Huggle / 3Application: Make Huggle 3 interface fully localizable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/65950#c2 (10Peter Bena) p:5Low>3Lowest s:5minor>3enhanc lowering priority, upstream bugs need to be fixed for this to get fixed [09:42:39] Change on 12mediawiki a page Manual:Huggle/Diff View/be-tarask was created, changed by Red Winged Duck link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual%3aHuggle%2fDiff+View%2fbe-tarask edit summary: Created page with "Інструкцыя:Huggle/Прагляд зьменаў" [09:44:21] Change on 12mediawiki a page Manual:Huggle/Diff View/be-tarask was modified, changed by Red Winged Duck link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=1087493 edit summary: Created page with "Прагляд зьменаў у Huggle ўжывае стандарты прагляд [[$mw|Mediawiki]], у якім зьмены пазначаныя зялёным ці ж..." [09:45:05] Change on 12mediawiki a page Manual:Huggle/Diff View/be-tarask was modified, changed by Red Winged Duck link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=1087495 edit summary: Created page with "Дзеля падрабязнасьцяў прагляду зьменаў, калі ласка, глядзіце [[w:Help:Diff|гэтую старонку]]." [19:52:08] Gilderien|asleep: You up yet? [19:56:34] anonymouse_: hi [19:56:39] regarding your question [19:56:56] no, it's not technical restriction it's just a policy [19:57:06] huggle is perfectly capable of operation without rollback [19:58:19] I even wanted to change this requirement once [19:58:32] so would that mean using a modified version of huggle is against policy? [19:58:37] yes [19:59:06] english wp community requires people who want to use to have a rollback permissions [19:59:20] so if you want to use it, I recommend you getting it, huggle works much faster with that [19:59:34] fwiw, I already have rollback [19:59:45] well then, it doesn't matter I guess [19:59:50] I'm wondering bc before I got rollback, i had almost 1000 huggle edits [20:00:11] it's like changing 1 line of source code to get pass :P [20:00:29] I regularly use huggle on many other projects including german wiki where it's even harder [20:00:44] you need like 1000+ edits there for it to use it, you think I have them? :P [20:01:27] I think that future version of huggle should only check these things on 1 wiki and if you match them, let you login to any other wiki [20:01:40] Just out of curiosity, last night I got (modified) huggle to connect to dewiki with no issues, even thought I only have one edit there (to huggle3.css) [20:01:43] because there is little point requiring people who work cross-wiki to have all these [20:01:55] it's on my to-do [20:03:16] if you understand programming why don't you join the dev team? [20:03:36] I don't understand enough programming to add anything new, only enough to comment out what's already there xD [20:03:43] heh [20:03:50] some tasks are rather easy [20:03:55] like translating things [20:04:12] you just replace strings with things like _l("some-loc") [20:04:23] have a look on [20:04:25] !todo [20:04:25] if you don't know what to work on, here is list: http://tools.wmflabs.org/huggle/docs/head/todo.html [20:04:32] it's pretty huge [20:06:01] I think I like the to-do at http://tools.wmflabs.org/huggle/docs/head/classHuggle_1_1Preferences.html#a0ed99a1d2a449c99f1a39fecda1a18ab more than anything [20:07:51] oh yes [20:08:00] that really needs some work [20:08:22] well there is a button and it doesn't really do anything when you click it [20:08:25] that alway suck [20:08:26] :) [20:12:33] That's definitely true..thanks for your input, I'll definitely look into doing some dev work, and trying to keep my first ~700 edits hidden ;) [20:13:45] petan what language is huggle in? [20:13:51] C++ [20:14:00] it can be extended with python too [20:14:01] oh ok [20:14:24] I was going to say I read/write python but nothing else really [20:14:40] well... you can extend it with python :P [20:14:50] there is python interpretor inside of huggle [20:14:55] oh ok [20:15:10] I might have a look at the source myself, see what I can do [20:15:14] there isn't much documentation though [20:15:34] http://enwp.org/WP:Huggle/Extensions [20:15:40] there is 1 sample extension :D [20:16:14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Huggle/Extensions/huggle_logs.py [20:21:00] interesting [20:23:18] so "huggle" is a module written in C++? [20:28:45] not a module [20:29:09] a set of functions? [20:29:26] it's a standalone program :D [20:29:27] how is it importing it? [20:29:31] oh ok [20:29:42] it contains python interpretor [23:12:51] Change on 12meta_wiki a page Huggle/Members was modified, changed by TheQ Editor link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=9412516 edit summary: /* Beta testers */ +1