[00:00:05] [HUGGLEBUILDER] Building a nightly build 20150514 x64 debian package [00:08:35] [HUGGLEBUILDER] huggle_20150514-nightly_amd64.deb is ready for download at http://huggle.wmflabs.org/builds/huggle_20150514-nightly_amd64.deb [00:10:13] [HUGGLEBUILDER] Win32 huggle version is ready for download at http://huggle.wmflabs.org/builds/windows/huggle.zip [04:55:56] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Lowercase sigmabot III link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=662257097 edit summary: Archiving 1 discussion(s) to [[Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback/Archive 19]]) (bot [04:56:00] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback/Archive 19 was modified, changed by Lowercase sigmabot III link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=662257102 edit summary: Archiving 1 discussion(s) from [[Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback]]) (bot [07:20:29] GitHub [8huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] new issue by nemobis: Fetch GENDER options of users for usage in i18n https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/issues/136 [07:24:22] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Petrb link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=662267670 edit summary: /* Only Warning, or selecting what level warning to give */ r [07:29:30] GitHub [8huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] benapetr commented on issue Fetch GENDER options of users for usage in i18n: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/issues/136#issuecomment-101950831 [09:43:42] GitHub [8huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] ricordisamoa commented on issue Fetch GENDER options of users for usage in i18n: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/issues/136#issuecomment-101986952 [10:06:04] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Happysailor link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=662280003 edit summary: /* Only Warning, or selecting what level warning to give */ [11:59:48] petan: [11:59:55] just so you know, im gonna try touching stuff now ;p [12:00:12] xen stuff [12:26:04] aha ok [12:26:13] :P [12:26:22] just installing a bastion now [12:26:26] dont think I broken anything ;p [12:28:19] petan, you may have to walk me through the settings you used for the other instances when you set them up! [12:29:47] yeah... basically first thing you should understand is what each network interface is and how it works. XN is xen network, it's a virtual network just as OrainNet, but pretty much every VM has it. eth2 is physical interface connected to datacenter, eth3 is unplugged atm [12:30:15] you should always give XN to new machines, never give them eth3 and rarely give them eth2 (only if they are supposed to have either public IPv4 or IPv6) [12:30:41] now that bastion thing disappeared [12:30:51] yeh I deleted it :P [12:31:31] is there a way to upload an image that is already installed? and then create VMs from that? [12:32:18] yes... how big are these? [12:32:39] it's probably better to create some VM there and then just clone it from a snapshot [12:32:47] mhhhm, well I dont have one, but I was going to create one for a basic ubuntu box with nothing installed, just so I dont have to go through the setup each time ;p [12:32:52] yeee [12:33:10] want to make me a snapshot of a VM exactly as you would set it up for us ? :P [12:33:14] yes, when you create a snapshot of a VM, you can do "create VM from snapshot" which basically creates a fork [12:33:16] then i wont break anything ;p [12:35:27] mhm... it's not so simple, these snapshots will basically just fork the storage (hard drives), other parameters is usually something that you want to customize, and I wasn't installing the OS but I just created the VM, just using ubuntu template, memory CPU and storage as requested in e-mail, XN, OrainNet and (if machine is to have a public IP) eth2 as network interfaces and that's all [12:35:57] ahh okay [12:36:00] Also, there should be some consistent naming convention [12:36:18] yeh, orain-WHAT-NN [12:36:18] I don't mind how you call orain servers, but they should all be named in a similar way :P [12:36:29] right now there are at least 3 with different name [12:36:46] yeh, once I find out if SPF has things on then I'll probably get rid of them :) [12:37:15] ok [12:37:19] right, Ill go install a bastion again then ;p [12:37:31] you don't have to be so fast with deleting, it's fine if you just power them off [12:37:39] I will create a folder for decomissioned servers [12:37:55] when the free storage would be low I would delete these, but for now there is lot of storage [12:37:56] xD [12:38:17] so firstly petan whats the deal with templates? [12:38:30] what do they do, where do I see what they do? [12:38:43] they change lots of options... unfortunatelly most of these are not visible in XenCenter [12:38:55] heh [12:38:59] they are some Xml files and each has lot of stuff in them [12:39:19] for example ubuntu 14.04 will not let you use less than 512MB of ram, and will use graphical bootloader [12:39:20] so I guess i'll just use the "Ubuntu Trusty Tahr 14.04" ? [12:39:31] debian will let you use min 128MB and use text console [12:39:32] etc [12:39:33] graphical bootloader... [12:39:35] yes [12:39:43] for ubuntu use ubuntu :P [12:39:51] xD [12:40:11] what is boot from network then? [12:41:24] don't use that, it won't work [12:41:41] that will tell BIOS to boot VM from network instead of local media [12:41:48] BIOS of VM [12:43:04] what about copy bios strings tick box? :P [12:43:46] no idea I never changed that [12:43:56] http://support.citrix.com/proddocs/topic/xencenter-61/xs-xc-vms-new-template.html [12:44:19] *ignores that tick box* [12:47:10] so petan https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/vcZ1VfKV/ [12:48:05] so petan i just want network 3, XN and Orain Net? [12:48:10] *network 2 [12:50:48] for a machine that wants public IP yes [12:51:14] keep in mind that XN is what you probably want to make a default network interface if you want to have simple life [12:51:41] because there is DHCP server [12:51:41] on it [12:51:57] ahh kk [12:52:11] but I dont set default network here do I? [12:52:23] nope [12:52:29] that is OS specific thing [12:53:07] so things that dont need public IPs just remove network 2? [12:55:00] yup, I changed settings now [12:55:14] when you create new VM, you will only see XN there and you will have to add other interfaces by hand [12:55:32] instead of removing what you don't need [12:55:43] epic :) [12:55:53] Im writing ALL of this down as I do it anyway :D [12:56:05] petan: join #orain-staff [12:56:11] cba to hop between channels [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/ar was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194250 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/bg was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194249 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/en was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194251 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/tr was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194260 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/sv was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194261 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/pt was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194259 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/ko was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194258 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/nl was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194257 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/ro was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194256 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/it was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194255 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/ru was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194254 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/yi was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194253 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/ta was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194252 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/ja was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194266 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/pt-br was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194264 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/uk was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194265 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/fa was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194263 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [18:48:26] Change on 12meta.wikimedia.org a page Huggle/Download/zh was modified, changed by FuzzyBot link https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=12194262 edit summary: Updating to match new version of source page [20:01:08] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Users was modified, changed by Phill24th link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=662349244 edit summary: Adding [[Special:Contributions/Phill24th|Phill24th]] ([[WP:HG|HG]]) [20:40:54] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Users was modified, changed by Josve05a link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=662354091 edit summary: Adding [[Special:Contributions/Josve05a|Josve05a]] ([[WP:HG|HG]]) [20:47:29] User:AR.00148 is indef. blocked. Should it be removed from [[Wikipedia:Huggle/Users]]? And what is that list really for? [20:47:34] petan: ^ [21:42:40] 10Huggle: Automaticly lower point if edit is on own userpage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99141#1286179 (10Josve05a) 3NEW [21:42:56] 10Huggle: Automaticly lower point if edit is on own userpage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99141#1286186 (10Josve05a) [22:07:55] 10Huggle: XmlRCs feed timed out, caused crash - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99145#1286246 (10Josve05a) 3NEW [22:14:53] 10Huggle: XmlRCs feed timed out, caused crash - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99145#1286266 (10Josve05a) Afer I restarted it and did my first revert I got this, ad had to fill out my password: ``` 00:09:29 WARNING: Wiki returned no registration time of Osage Cowboy 00:09:24 Did not revert Azeem Ward: ERROR... [22:17:52] 10Huggle: Result was not NULL memory leaked - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94605#1286285 (10Josve05a) >>! In T94605#1215176, @Petrb wrote: > I suppose this didn't happen ever since the update to last version? Not yet at least. [22:35:27] 10Huggle: Failed to obtain diff error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99149#1286327 (10Josve05a) 3NEW [23:05:21] 10Huggle: Huggle crash - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99153#1286420 (10Krenair) [23:37:19] 10Huggle: Failed to obtain diff error - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99149#1286672 (10Josve05a) Version: 3.1.12 build: 2563 3.1.12-1-ga0be145 without python support, compiled using QT 5.4.1 Running on QT 5.4.1 [23:37:54] 10Huggle: XmlRCs feed timed out, caused crash - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99145#1286676 (10Josve05a)