[03:26:50] petan: around? [03:30:03] should WP:Huggle/Config be fully protected? [03:41:06] Vermont: nope [03:41:13] I think it's OK as it is [03:41:24] k [03:41:36] it seems that, in it's current state, autoconfirmed users are able to edit requirements for editors using huggle [03:41:40] is that not what the config page does? [03:41:53] such a change would be quickly reverted [03:42:13] by who? [03:42:29] by all these people who are watching every change to Huggle's config page [03:42:54] it seems I forgot to specify which wiki [03:42:59] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Huggle/Config [03:43:03] oh simple [03:43:06] yep [03:43:11] well, that one probably yes [03:43:16] I was thinking you mean english one [03:44:40] i'll fully protect it [03:44:44] if you need to edit it, just ping me [03:47:40] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback/Archive 22 was modified, changed by Lowercase sigmabot III link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=875147840 edit summary: Archiving 1 discussion(s) from [[Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback]]) (bot [03:47:42] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Lowercase sigmabot III link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=875147843 edit summary: Archiving 1 discussion(s) to [[Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback/Archive 22]]) (bot [03:54:03] Vermont: I can edit fully protected pages too ;) [03:54:17] wait how [03:54:30] I have global permission for that [03:54:40] on every wiki [03:55:32] oh cool [03:55:36] global interface editors [04:05:29] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by ToBeFree link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=875149465 edit summary: /* Huggle Not Warning Users */ replying [04:26:00] petan / Vermont: WP:Huggle/Config is for old versions of Huggle, the page is [[Wikipedia:Huggle/Config.yaml]], I think [04:26:14] ah [04:26:18] or is the old config page still used for some settings as a fallback? [04:26:32] I think it only is if .yaml is missing [04:29:50] oooh, sorry, I am too focused on simple.wikipedia.org @Vermont, this is true for enwiki, but as simplewiki does not seem to have a .yaml configuration, the page you've linked here is indeed important [04:29:59] too focused on en.wikipedia.org* [04:30:07] :p [04:30:10] everyone is [10:55:42] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] benapetr pushed 1 commits into branch master: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/compare/4bdec5c91624...889be5feaecf [10:55:42] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] commit by benapetr (Petr Bena) https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/commit/889be5feaecf64e2ddd85ec44c72a1f206204823 removed old function from ecma help [11:24:29] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle was modified, changed by Newslinger link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=875183817 edit summary: Use [[Portal:Free and open-source software|Free and open-source software portal]] name (via [[WP:JWB]]) [11:52:50] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] benapetr pushed 1 commits into branch master: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/compare/889be5feaecf...af0f0059a2be [11:52:50] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] commit by benapetr (Petr Bena) https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/commit/af0f0059a2be520da64f88f2fb4532e9b9de8750 fixed Mac target platform version and lowered it down [12:01:24] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Petrb link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=875186834 edit summary: /* Huggle Not Warning Users */ r [12:03:45] Change on 12www.mediawiki.org a page Manual:Huggle was modified, changed by Petrb link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=3023409 edit summary: [12:08:20] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Petrb link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=875187378 edit summary: /* Huggle Not Warning Users */ r [12:11:05] Change on 12www.mediawiki.org a page Manual:Huggle/Debugging was modified, changed by Petrb link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=3023410 edit summary: [12:42:02] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Users was modified, changed by Addshore link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=875189823 edit summary: Adding [[Special:Contributions/Addshore|Addshore]] ([[WP:HG|HG]]) (3.4.6) [12:52:27] addshore: did you see new scripting engine? [12:52:35] you can extend Huggle from withing Huggle using Js [12:52:50] I actually did a short demo about that last hackathon but it was in cradle back then [12:52:54] now it's sort of usable [12:57:39] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] new issue by addshore: Easy button to open linked Wikidata item https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/issues/311 [13:18:17] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] benapetr commented on issue Easy button to open linked Wikidata item: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/issues/311#issuecomment-449733377 [14:06:39] petan: around? :P [14:07:52] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] addshore commented on issue Easy button to open linked Wikidata item: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/issues/311#issuecomment-449738370 [14:19:52] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] addshore commented on issue Easy button to open linked Wikidata item: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/issues/311#issuecomment-449739579 [14:27:23] petan: it doesnt look like ores integration for wikjidata is turned on :( [14:29:39] * addshore adds the config for it [14:33:10] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] benapetr commented on issue Easy button to open linked Wikidata item: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/issues/311#issuecomment-449740912 [14:33:51] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] benapetr pushed 0 commits into branch cleanup/wall: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/compare/02c8c89852f6...000000000000 [14:42:27] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] addshore commented on issue Easy button to open linked Wikidata item: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/issues/311#issuecomment-449741826 [14:43:39] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] new issue by addshore: Queue filter by summary https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/issues/312 [14:48:58] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] new issue by addshore: Huggle checks the wrong ORES URL for wikidata https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/issues/313 [14:51:25] meh [15:20:43] addshore: obviouslty I am arround I messaged you lol [15:21:04] IDK does ORES even support wikidata? [15:32:30] petan: yup [15:32:40] the wikidata needs to be wikidatawiki in the ORES url though [15:52:23] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] benapetr pushed 0 commits into branch yaml/user: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/compare/dd361bc13d04...000000000000 [15:52:26] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] benapetr pushed 0 commits into branch travis-fix: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/compare/cc2295015821...000000000000 [17:45:14] petan: you around? [17:45:33] addshore: You as well? [17:45:58] Hi [17:46:03] Kind of [17:46:10] Though I'll be having dinner shortly [17:47:11] addshore: Cool, well, I'm trying to sort your Wikidata ORES problem :) Just need petan (or someone who knows C++ better than I do (not alot)) to review [17:50:49] Ooooo [17:51:07] I only got as far as finding the rev scoring repo myself :) [17:51:17] It's one of those 'I think I can fix that... lets try!' moments :P [17:51:24] But I'm sure petan will see it soon! [17:52:08] I won't be able to have a look today [17:53:16] https://github.com/huggle/extension-scoring/pull/2 - Well, theres the PR :P [18:22:17] Change on 12en.wikipedia.org a page Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback was modified, changed by Philipnelson99 link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=875222682 edit summary: /* Huggle Not Warning Users */ [21:41:45] petan: petan petan petan [21:41:47] stop drinking beer [21:41:49] :P [21:41:51] petan: on? [21:41:57] i have a interesting glitch [21:42:01] Vermont: ooooh [21:42:06] https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=6364927&oldid=6364808&title=User_talk:92.13.195.30&diffmode=source [21:42:08] * addshore thinks he should start deving huggle again [21:42:16] look at who the signature for that warning is [21:42:48] thats a bit odd.... [21:43:21] mhm [21:43:33] and an admin who didn't notice the huggle tag threatened to block the guy :/ [21:43:36] (which i've dealt with) [21:44:34] thoughts? [21:45:55] i guess it is https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-vandalism4 which looks fine? [21:46:19] no its not that one [21:46:32] Vermont: Excuse my stupidity, but what's up with it [21:46:52] Oh... never mind [21:46:54] Stupid [21:46:59] methecooldude: the signature is of the wrong user [21:47:01] :P [21:47:14] Heh, how did that happen lol [21:47:25] idk why it picked Auntof6 either [21:48:15] its the first time that user has used huggle om simple [21:48:26] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Philipnelson99 [21:49:22] I mean, surely it just uses ~~~~ [21:50:14] Change on 12www.mediawiki.org a page Manual:Huggle/Debugging was modified, changed by Shirayuki link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=3023632 edit summary: restore translation units [21:50:41] Change on 12www.mediawiki.org a page Manual:Huggle/Debugging was modified, changed by Shirayuki link https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=3023633 edit summary: translation tweaks [21:50:54] Change on 12www.mediawiki.org a page Manual:Huggle/Debugging was modified, changed by Shirayuki 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[21:53:00] methecooldude: i think so [21:53:03] im super confused really [21:53:05] :P [21:53:12] :P [21:53:19] Thanks FuzzyBot... thanks [21:53:43] i mean, also, i could totally make huggle make that exact edit, wihtout anything being broken ;) [21:54:38] but i dont think the user is trying to confuse us here [21:56:59] i have no idea if i could even build huggle now [21:57:06] iv been away from it for so long :( [22:21:01] I am here [22:27:43] addshore: so internal name of wikidata on WMF cluster is wikidatawiki or is that just ORES? [22:27:55] internal name is wikidatawiki [22:28:08] dbname = wikidtaawiki [22:28:11] *typo [22:29:24] ok... it's weird but OK [22:29:44] funny wm-bot is spamming about all sort of shit but when I just edited config page of Huggle on meta it didn't echo it here [22:30:07] so if you open Huggle and hit "Reload" button in login form it should reload project list [22:30:14] then it should work [22:31:14] petan: ill have a look! [22:31:43] everything ends with wiki :P [22:31:45] thats the rule [22:31:49] 700 edits per minute what the fuck [22:31:53] petan: yup [22:31:55] ;) [22:32:01] it bounces between 600 and 1000 [22:32:11] you are going to kill ORES with that [22:32:18] am I? :P [22:32:22] naaaah [22:32:53] well it seems that all edits are made by a bot [22:33:25] yes, most are bots [22:33:29] how does huggle interact with ores? [22:33:40] hit the api for every revision? or just the things that make it to the queue? [22:34:48] and petan how are ores scores even exposed? [22:35:21] it should hit the api for every revision, but honestly I don't see any ORES scores, let me do some debugging on what's going on [22:35:33] Summary: /* clientsitelink-update:0|zhwiki|zhwiki:塞爾岩|zhwiki:風帆岩 */ Size change: 0 [22:35:34] Meta information - ORES Goodfaith: 599 ORES Score: -504 [22:35:46] here we go... for some reason there are scores just somewhere [22:35:58] just somewhere? [22:36:06] no I was wrong [22:36:11] they are everywhere [22:36:23] you can see them in that "meta information: [22:36:33] Summary: /* wbsetclaim-update:2||1 */ [[Property:P856]]: http://www.vadeni.ro Size change: -33 [22:36:34] Meta information - ORES Goodfaith: -599 ORES Score: 586 Tags: new editor changing statement [22:37:23] hi y’all [22:37:30] ORES scores are in range from 0 to 1 if I am not mistaken, but Huggle scores are just long integers, so scoring module converts that 0 - 1 to value between -500 and 500 [22:37:34] anyone have any idea as to what happened with the link I posted earlier? [22:37:42] Vermont: I will have a look [22:37:51] looks like some sort of template bug to me [22:38:27] addshore: actually you can specify how big they are that's what config option [22:38:29] amplifier [22:38:30] is for [22:38:47] # With value of 600, ORES's score "1" (100%) would result in Huggle score 600 and ORES's score "0" would result in -600, score "0.5" would result in 0. [22:38:48] ores-amplifier: 600 [22:39:07] it's 600 on wikidata so I was wrong it's 600 to -600 [22:39:20] bigger the amplifier bigger the weight of ORES scores [22:40:06] for me it's very hard to use Huggle to spot actual vandalism on wikidata [22:40:24] for example ORES show very big score here https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?diff=819263921 [22:40:35] 526 almost 100% vandalism [22:40:39] but I don't see what's wrong [22:41:19] yeh, ores on wikidata cna be a bit tricky [22:42:16] I think whole antivandalism on wikidata can be a bit tricky [22:42:23] how the hell you recognize a vandalism there [22:42:41] peope just change data that's worst kind of vandalism there can be [22:42:45] petan: what endpoint do i hit to see the ores score? [22:43:07] does https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?diff=819264046&oldid=819263921 have a significantly smaller score than the one you linked? [22:43:19] if you start huggle in debug mode (parameter -vv) you will see API links sec [22:44:07] Processing webserver request https://ores.wikimedia.org/v3/scores/wikidatawiki?revids=819267605 [22:44:13] addshore: is that what you meant? ^ [22:44:18] yup [22:44:27] just do verbosity level 2 [22:44:30] start with -vv [22:44:35] you will see them all for each edit [22:44:37] in system logs [22:45:03] but it's basically same link with revid [22:45:16] it owuld be cool to also see a representation of the ores score in the queue list :P [22:45:36] at least you see it on the diff view :) [22:46:29] Vermont: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Huggle/warn-4 [22:46:33] answer to you question [22:46:51] some clever guy broke template ;) [22:46:53] loooking [22:46:59] aaaah [22:47:05] with AWB [22:47:05] i thought it might be the template, but i couldnt find it [22:47:08] he deservers the glory [22:47:10] probably because of the 2 beers [22:47:24] LOL she broke it [22:47:30] * Vermont will fix [22:47:31] you are drunk even on christmass? wtf :D [22:47:53] like seriously whole year nobody cares about Huggle and now 24th December so many people active in this channels [22:47:56] * channel [22:47:58] what's wrong [22:48:07] I just came home I was only car in whole town [22:48:13] nobody else on the road [22:48:26] I was wondering such a peace, everyone home with family or whatever [22:48:30] * Vermont cares so much about Huggle [22:48:33] and here you are solving Huggle issues [22:48:33] even though I barely use it anymore [22:49:32] well I don't use it very much either but everyone I start it on enwp I see active people on HAN reverting vandals so I can always close it with peace in mind [22:49:44] there are still active users defending wikipedia day and night :D [22:50:10] s/everyone/everytime [22:50:21] petan: Thanks for the correction on the PR :P I knew there was a better way [22:51:07] methecooldude: it was almost correct but it probably didn't even compile lol [22:51:46] I couldn't see any member variable "sitename" you were refering to, this isn't like python, variables have to be explicitly declared before you can use them :P [22:51:52] I aplogise for my shitness in c++ lol [22:52:26] it's OK I don't mind but anyway even if it compiled I think changing project name in configuration is easier than hardcoding some hacks in code [22:52:46] not that Huggle wasn't already one big hack [22:52:54] Yep yep, I didn't even realise that existed haha [22:54:21] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] benapetr pushed 1 commits into branch master: https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/compare/af0f0059a2be...8146f31f5604 [22:54:21] GitHub [7huggle/huggle3-qt-lx] commit by benapetr (Petr Bena) https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/commit/8146f31f5604cf106a9de3e1565db63f35d08ef4 Update Definitions.xml