[02:50:37] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Workflow as-is: conduct usablity testing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239175 (10iamjessklein) I ran the first test on usertesting.com on November 27, 2019 - [CT 1-5] This is a control test. We tested a discussion page on beta that had no prompts, just dis... [02:55:00] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Conduct a control test of as-is reply state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239175 (10iamjessklein) [02:55:22] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Conduct a control test of as-is reply state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239175 (10iamjessklein) [02:57:09] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Conduct a control test of as-is reply state - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239175 (10iamjessklein) The next step here is to publish the second iteration of the control test on usertesting.com (with lots of comments populating the discussion) and to then log... [02:57:58] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Conduct a control test of as-is reply workflow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239175 (10iamjessklein) [05:05:50] Just a quick question, is there anyway to get the wikitext contents of the visual editor using JS? [06:50:46] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.1: Create mockups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236916 (10ppelberg) [08:26:59] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: Mismatch between footnote numbering in article body and references section [2,1] vs. [2.1] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239725 (10thiemowmde) [08:27:55] 10Cite, 10Editing-team, 10Book-Referencing, 10MediaWiki-API, and 2 others: Check ApiQueryReferences compatibility with extended references - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238195 (10thiemowmde) 05Open→03Resolved a:03thiemowmde [08:30:45] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10Patch-For-Review, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: Mismatch between footnote numbering in article body and references section [2,1] vs. [2.1] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239725 (10thiemowmde) [09:07:36] 10Cite, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: CSS counters are messing up list numbering in Fixefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239787 (10thiemowmde) [09:23:15] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10Patch-For-Review, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: Mismatch between footnote numbering in article body and references section [2,1] vs. [2.1] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239725 (10awight) I believe this is resolved, @JStrodt_WMDE please verify when you have a moment. [09:45:37] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10Patch-For-Review, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: Mismatch between footnote numbering in article body and references section [1,1] vs. [1.1] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239725 (10JStrodt_WMDE) 05Open→03Resolved [10:30:10] Hello [10:31:52] This page says that real-time collaboration is a feature that is worked upon 'right now' for visual editor https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Roadmap [10:32:44] My question is, has work started on real-time collaboration (e.g. google docs style) at all? If yes when will be able to see a first experimental version? In months or years? [10:33:17] At least for the standalone visual-editor, not the one in wikipedia [10:33:47] I have actually found this video which shows this feature implemented and functioning well! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf1Kg0gVIWk [10:34:09] is it already implemented? is there an option to turn this on somehow? [11:01:02] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Provide URL parameter(s) to always load a wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239796 (10Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE) [11:09:16] 10Cite, 10Book-Referencing, 10WMDE-QWERTY-Sprint-2019-11-20: CSS counters are messing up list numbering in Fixefox - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239787 (10thiemowmde) I did a bisect and the bug was not there before the patch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/553111. That was the patch that i... [13:47:08] 10Citoid, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 10Core Platform Team Workboards (Clinic Duty Team), 10User-Ryasmeen: Months missing leading 0 (e.g. "2018-7") from citoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234420 (10Mvolz) 05Open→03Resolved [13:59:57] 10Cite, 10DynamicPageList (Wikimedia), 10Regression: Error with Dynamic Page List and rendering content after upgrading to 1.30.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183323 (10Ammarpad) 05Open→03Resolved a:03thiemowmde [14:15:01] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: Create mockups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235592 (10Esanders) In the anon warning we say "your IP address (12.34.56.78)" however we currently don't have access to the IP address in the client. We could make this available, but I don't know... [15:19:31] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Conduct a control test of as-is reply workflow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239175 (10iamjessklein) Update: v2 of the control test is running. I will post the findings here. [16:41:11] 10VisualEditor: VE's gallery representation differs enough so that selser is never applied? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214649 (10Arlolra) [17:42:41] 10VisualEditor: Visual Editor suggests irrelevant autocomplete for section names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239846 (10IKhitron) [17:43:15] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Links: Visual Editor suggests irrelevant autocomplete for section names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239846 (10IKhitron) [17:43:41] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Links: Visual Editor suggests irrelevant autocomplete for section names - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239846 (10IKhitron) [17:44:26] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Links: Visual Editor creates wrong format section links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239847 (10IKhitron) [18:20:29] 10VisualEditor, 10Cloud-VPS (Debian Jessie Deprecation): "visualeditor" Cloud VPS project jessie deprecation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T236548 (10bd808) The Cloud Services team would like to have Debian Jessie systems replaced with Debian Buster (or Stretch if necessary) before 2019-12-31. Please do... [18:27:45] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Links: Visual Editor unneededly adds page name to section links on same page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239847 (10Aklapper) [18:49:54] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-Links: Visual Editor unneededly adds page name to section links on same page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239847 (10IKhitron) [20:33:21] 10Editing-team, 10DiscussionTools, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: release replying to specific comments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235923 (10ppelberg) [20:39:43] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Replies v1.0: Create mockups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235592 (10ppelberg) >>! In T235592#5712215, @Esanders wrote: > In the anon warning we say "your IP address (12.34.56.78)" however we currently don't have access to the IP address in the client. We c... [20:55:52] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Sketch alternative approaches to previewing reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238177 (10ppelberg) **Update: 4-Dec** - We are working to define how much of the previewing workflow we can design by EOD Friday, 6-Dec. Having minimal designs by this Friday /... [20:57:40] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Sketch alternative approaches to previewing reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238177 (10ppelberg) [20:57:59] 10Editing-team, 10Editing Design, 10OWC2020: Sketch alternative approaches to previewing reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238177 (10ppelberg) [21:02:08] 10VisualEditor, 10Epic: Test visual editor as the default mobile editor on select wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227338 (10Mayakp.wiki) [21:08:58] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: ADD: ability to post comment using keyboard shortcut - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239859 (10ppelberg) [21:13:37] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: ADD: ability to post comment using keyboard shortcut - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239859 (10ppelberg) [21:19:26] 10Editing-team, 10OWC2020: Bug: Not able to post comment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239861 (10ppelberg) [21:40:55] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Refreshing a source page in the 2017 wikitext editor switches back to one of old editors (when VisualEditor is temporarily disabled) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190765 (10matmarex) After T209163 was resolved, the main problem here disappeare... [21:41:55] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: 2017 wikitext editor doesn't load for some URL parameters, uses one of old editors instead (when VisualEditor is temporarily disabled) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190765 (10matmarex) [21:42:58] 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor: Provide URL parameter(s) to always load a wikitext editor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239796 (10matmarex) We should probably make option 4 work (`action=edit&veaction=editsource`). Task T190765 is a similar proble... [21:46:09] 10VisualEditor: [Pre-deployment testing] Getting error " Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'then' of undefined" while replying to a nested reply - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239864 (10Ryasmeen) [21:51:26] 10VisualEditor: [Pre-deployment testing] Same reply can get posted multiple times if you click on "Reply" button multiple times - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239865 (10Ryasmeen) [22:45:27] 10VisualEditor: [Pre-deployment testing] Clicking on edit on "Talk:Reply test" page, gives error "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'range' of undefined" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239873 (10Ryasmeen) [23:59:58] 10VisualEditor, 10MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, 10Performance-Team: [testwiki] Transparency issue with Search drop down suggestions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239286 (10Krinkle) p:05Triage→03Normal