to it, correct? [13:14:56] still doesn't parse it on mine [13:15:22] Duesentrieb_: I got an error message. [13:15:27] has anybody thought of having multiple category namespaces before? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Beer_parlour#Grouping_types_of_categories [13:15:28] Jera: uh,

is not a stile... it's an html element you can apply styles to. [13:15:39] Right, that's what I meant. [13:16:02] hippietrail: i think that goes under the topic of "namespace manager". yea, there has been talk about that. also multiple talk namespaces, etc [13:16:23] Jera: it's one of the places to define css styles. the right place for site-wise, skin-independant styles [13:16:38] remember to do a hard relaod after changing it (ctrl-r in firefox) [13:16:39] Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at .../localsettings.php:127) in .../WebResponse.php on line 10. [13:16:39] Duesentrieb_: cool thanks [13:17:08] In wiki/includes/Webresponse.php on line 10. [13:17:15] Does something in that need to be changed as well? [13:17:26] have you edited Webresponse.php? [13:17:41] No. [13:17:52] Jera: you broke your LocalSettings.php. make sure you put all stuff before the ending ?> mark, and there are no blank lines after that mark [13:17:56] Varange: No, I haven't. I didn't know I needed too. [13:18:02] Varange: "output started at .../localsettings.php:127" [13:18:09] Alright. [13:18:12] Varange: WebResponse is trying to send headers. [13:18:17] spaces at the end of the file will do that too [13:18:24] oh ok [13:18:24] yea [13:18:28] :) [13:18:29] and a BOM at the start, etc [13:19:00] *TimStarling just spent 5 minutes trying to work out why this wasn't working: [13:19:02] while ($bytePos < $bytePos + $bytes) { [13:19:04] ... [13:19:07] Duesentrieb_: No go. [13:19:08] $bytePos++; [13:19:09] } [13:19:14] Duesentrieb_: Still doesn't parse. [13:19:26] Duesentrieb_, in {{#displaytitle:something}}, what is the syntactical meaning of the hash (#)? [13:19:31] Duesentrieb_: is there somewhere i can read about proposed multiple talk pages or multiple category namespaces? nothing is said here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Namespace_manager [13:20:15] hippietrail: no idea. [13:20:22] thanks anyway (-: [13:20:33] Varange: "parser function". though displaytitle may work differently. [13:20:59] argh, why do some people have to spam useless templates all over the place on mediawiki.org? [13:21:10] w: interwikilink should be fine for everyone [13:21:26] <_Danny_B_> Duesentrieb_, hippietrail: it actually is {{DISPLAYTITLE:title}} see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Miscellany [13:22:01] _Danny_B_: on my test wiki, that seems to be interpreted (i.e. hidden from output), but has no effect. might be my custom skin, though [13:22:55] <_Danny_B_> Duesentrieb_: if it works with hash sign, the documentation should be rewritten then [13:23:21] _Danny_B_: afaik core parser functions wor with and without, for backward compatibility... but i might be wrong again [13:23:40] by the way, __NOEDITSECTION__ hides the edit links [13:23:45] way cool [13:23:53] Duesentrieb_, thanks [13:24:03] _Danny_B_: i see no effect on wikipedia either. [13:24:12] Duesentrieb_: Thank you for your help thus far, Duesentrieb_. Is there anything else I need to change. It's still not working. [13:24:27] <_Danny_B_> as the link above says, it's off on wmf sites [13:24:39] <_Danny_B_> oups [13:24:47] <_Danny_B_> forget me ;-) [13:24:49] Jera: "not working" how? you probably made a syntax error when editing LocalSettings.php. [13:24:56] like, forgetting the ";" at the end of the line. [13:25:30] Jera: anyway, read the page danny linked to, displaytitle is documented there [13:25:37] *Duesentrieb_ wonders why he can'T get it working [13:26:21] I put the ; at the end, copied exactly what you wrote. [13:26:28] And added it right before the ?> [13:26:33] No spaces after the ?> [13:26:39] Checking out the link now. [13:26:56] Jera: you are still getting the same error? [13:27:31] Oh! [13:27:55] It is {{displaytitle:whatever}} not {{#displaytitle:whatever}} I'll give it a shot. [13:28:55] Okay, it gives me a link to a Template [13:29:07] Template:Displaytitle:Frumpy Stuff [13:29:29] 03(NEW) Closure_of_Chamorro_Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10706 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (triyork) [13:29:33] Gonna read up [13:29:35] yea, that's what you get if it's not enabled. [13:29:42] Well, I enabled it. [13:29:50] I think I enabled it. [13:30:26] what version of mediawiki are you using? [13:30:45] How can I find that out? [13:30:50] I didn't do the install. [13:30:55] Special:Version [13:31:13] go to your wiki's special:version page and see there what's the MediaWiki version [13:31:31] 1.10.0 [13:31:32] Got it. [13:31:38] Thanks, Jack_Phoenix. [13:31:57] np [13:32:31] The good news is I'm getting paid for this conversation. [13:32:34] The bad news is, you aren't. [13:32:39] Thanks for the help. [13:32:42] should work then. but as i said, i can't get it to work eihter :/ [13:32:53] hehe [13:32:56] Okay, so despite the fact it SHOULD work, we have determined it does not work. [13:32:59] well [13:33:10] you can use a template and some JS to change a page's title [13:33:17] if you cannot get DISPLAYTITLE working [13:33:18] yuck [13:33:34] Is there another work around. It will be about two days of ten hour work to change all the links in my current wiki files. [13:33:39] Java Script? [13:33:40] yeah, it's a dirty hack, but as long as it works... :] [13:33:43] 14(DUP) Add "changes since last visit" link to Special: Watchlist and page history - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10291 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [13:33:44] 03(mod) Add "show new changes starting from" links to Watchlist and Newpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4903 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [13:33:48] Jera: but again - have you though about simply using redirects? it has the same effect, kind if [13:33:50] As long as it works, yeah. [13:33:56] <_Danny_B_> {{DISPLAYTITLE:}} is obviously been parsed, but the result isn't correct behavior [13:34:36] I have, except that will double the number of pages. Unless I can hide them from the all pages... this is a professional site, being used by my boss's clientelle, which includes almost every major car company. [13:35:04] What is the JS "dirty hack"? [13:35:23] <_Danny_B_> Jack_Phoenix: it isn't that dirty [13:35:33] <_Danny_B_> if it's done correctly [13:35:37] :) [13:35:41] Please note I'm in undiscovered country here. I've never done anything more than BASIC HTML. [13:35:51] So assume you are talking to a fifth grader. [13:35:57] Well, a slow fifth grader. [13:36:02] Remedial. [13:36:18] <_Danny_B_> Jera: check http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedie:V%C5%A1echno_smazat%2C_v%C5%A1echny_zablokovat especially the header [13:36:30] I'm really nothing more than a glorified Data Entry person atm. Though this job is growing my skill set. [13:36:47] Umm... It's not in english. [13:37:04] <_Danny_B_> Jera: you don't need english to "read" the title ;-) [13:37:25] Jera, I got the DISPLAYTITLE thingy working on mine [13:37:25] True. [13:37:29] How? [13:37:36] <_Danny_B_> Varange: where? [13:37:37] And I don't see a title. I see an angry face. [13:37:47] www.marketplacenz.com [13:37:59] I'm peeking at it now. [13:38:05] <_Danny_B_> Jera: yes, that's it - done by JS [13:38:20] <_Danny_B_> which replaces the header with different content even images [13:38:22] Alright, so I gotta copy the Java script and modify? [13:38:33] Jera, is your Localsettings working now? [13:38:43] <_Danny_B_> Duesentrieb_: how about caching on wmf sites, could that be caused by that? [13:38:57] My Localsettings is working, as in it is not returning errors. But the DisplayTitle command is not. [13:39:12] It gives me a template to a non-existant page. [13:39:18] template link. [13:39:20] <_Danny_B_> Jera: you'll need to create template say {{PageTitle}} [13:39:29] Jera, what is the url? [13:39:31] Alright. How do I do that. [13:39:51] why doesn't it work I wonder [13:40:06] <_Danny_B_> Jera: {{DISPLAYTITLE:foo}} is the only correct syntax. not {{DisplayTitle:}} not {{Displaytitle:}} not {{#displayitle:}} [13:40:07] http://www.nanonomicon.com/wiki/index.php?title=General_Ledger_Overview [13:40:20] Let me try that. [13:40:22] yes, it would give you a template link if it didn't parse it [13:40:22] All caps. [13:40:32] Does it parse spaces, or do I need to use Underscores? [13:40:42] <_Danny_B_> should parse spcs [13:41:04] Oh Emm Gee. [13:41:11] It worked! [13:41:19] By God man, you have saved me TWO DAYS OF WORK... [13:41:36] send him a bill [13:41:44] And since this is a project by project job, you have also cut off two days of full pay. But THANK YOU! [13:41:55] Jera, here's mine, just copy and paste: __NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__ {{DISPLAYTITLE:Marketplace NZ}} [13:42:14] Add that to my edit page? [13:42:21] Oh, if you remove the edit section, how do you edit the page later? [13:42:53] Jera, you see the words underneath "Link to [[Main Page]]" . Want to remove that? [13:43:08] Jera: enter action=edit as a url parameter [13:43:10] you click the edit link at the top of the page [13:43:22] or that :) [13:43:25] As a URL parameter? [13:43:27] (i though that was removed too) [13:43:30] it just removes those annoying links in the page content [13:43:33] Well, I was wondering what the no edit section does. [13:43:38] Oh! [13:43:40] Okay. [13:43:47] you can hide the edit links on all pages using css, too. [13:44:08] section edit links, that is. you'd want to keep the page edit "tab" [13:44:20] How do you remove the Link to main page? [13:45:13] from where? [13:45:26] Under the title. [13:45:37] now you go to MediaWiki:Common.css and add this: div#contentSub {display:none;} [13:45:51] to remove that annoying little text under the new title [13:46:06] Jera: you mean the link to the "parent" page, if you use subpages? like, the link to "foo" on "foo/bar"? [13:46:09] Where is the Common.css located? [13:46:20] Jera: in the database [13:46:35] Jera: it's a wiki page. MediaWiki:common.css [13:46:58] http://www.nanonomicon.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [13:47:11] but it reports that the page doesn't exist [13:47:19] Yeah. [13:47:20] It does. [13:47:25] hmmm [13:47:32] it doesn't exist per default [13:47:33] The CSS it is using right now, for all my pages, is the monobook.css [13:47:41] I got a 404 [13:47:44] there would eb no point. nothing to put there [13:47:50] why did it exist in mine then? [13:47:55] simply create it, add css code, do a hard forced reload [13:48:05] http://www.marketplacenz.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [13:48:07] Create a page called common.css? [13:48:09] Varange: because you created it? look at the page hostory [13:48:20] Jera: no, called MediaWiki:common.css [13:48:26] namespaces are important. [13:48:27] ahh, the template creator probably did [13:48:53] Ahh, I had to add it at the end of index.php?title= [13:48:59] If that isn't there, I get 404's. [13:49:14] It says it's a common.css used for all wiki pages. [13:49:32] indeed. [13:49:55] Worked. [13:49:57] if you need index.php?title= or not depends on your url reqriting settings, etc. [13:49:59] Okay, one last question. [13:50:13] btw - putting the wiki into the document root is a bad idea if you want to use "pretty" urls. [13:50:17] And this is less to do with Mediawiki and more to do with HTML. [13:50:29] How do I set up a custom style for the DIV tag? [13:50:52] I know how to use it on the spot, but setting up a style is a bit different. [13:50:53] Jera: define it in common.css [13:51:01] Right, how do I define it. Syntax wise. [13:51:03] simply define a style for an css class there [13:51:07] use the class attribute in the div [13:51:12] well done Jera, looks good [13:51:16] Thanks. [13:51:23] Jera: err, learn css? .classname { ...styles... } [13:51:38] I've been hunting tutorials, but none of them have been... basic enough. [13:51:46] Any links you might know of that will help me? [13:51:53] SelfHTML is greate... but not available in english [13:52:05] You speak Duetsch? [13:52:26] Your name looked German. [13:52:37] And I don't remember barely any of my class, except how to say very. [13:52:40]

and then on the CSS page: .niceclass {color:red;background-color:fuchsia;} [13:52:42] So it wouldn't help even if it was in German. [13:52:56] That's it? [13:52:57] try www.htmlhelp.com [13:53:13] they have a super CSS reference guide [13:53:55] http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/properties.html [13:54:11] Like

and on css page .lefcol {size:20%;padding:1.5%;} or something to that affect? [13:54:24] Ich nicht spreche Deutsch [13:54:32] Ja ja [13:54:46] sprechen or spreche? [13:54:55] sprechen is the infinitive, nm. [13:54:57] ich nichts wissen [13:55:10] *Jera sighs. [13:55:17] ich scheiss doof [13:55:19] You are making me want to dig out my German 101 book. [13:55:21] lol [13:55:34] I only took a year, and passed it with a C-. [13:55:38] And that was two years ago. [13:55:40] oh dear [13:55:48] not bad [13:55:49] It is NOT an easy language to learn. [13:55:52] But I loved it. [13:56:03] I want to learn more when I go back to school this fall. [13:56:05] very easy. Ask Duesentrieb_ [13:56:36] Duesentrieb_ = JetThrust [13:56:37] Well, I like Germans, and I like their language. So it is on my to do list. [13:56:46] where are you from? [13:56:47] Duesentrieb_ can help me practice someday in the near future. [13:56:50] Me? [13:56:53] yes [13:57:04] The land of the Great Lakes. Michigan, United States. [13:57:09] Best state in the U.S. [13:57:14] Better 'n Texas. [13:57:19] ahhh [13:57:22] Jera: kein problem, wenn ich gerade da bin :) [13:57:23] Texas is good? [13:57:28] Though don't say that around Texans... they're usually armed. [13:57:38] Kein is small, right? [13:57:41] No. [13:57:46] Yes. [13:57:49] Small problem. [13:57:55] Texas reminds me of chimpanzees somehow. Wonder why. [13:58:01] *L* [13:58:09] Stay away from the Bush's in Texas. [13:58:10] kein kleines Problem [13:58:12] Bushes. [13:58:14] Jera: "klein" is small. "kein" is "no", as in "no problem". [13:58:19] Oh! [13:58:20] Roger. [13:58:25] I forgot how to say Thanks. [13:58:35] :P [13:58:38] da laust mich der George! [13:58:38] danke. :] [13:58:39] buy me a beer. [13:58:45] *Jera blinks. [13:58:48] How could I forget that. [13:58:49] Danke. [13:58:55] *Jack_Phoenix would like to remind everyone that he doesn't know German :] [13:59:03] How can I disable all Templates?? [13:59:09] Jack_Phoenix, try Dutch then [13:59:18] heh [13:59:22] Roger. And not the american beer. [13:59:24] Good beer. [13:59:32] Maybe Canadian, as I'm not terribly well to do. [13:59:33] Jens__: add all namespaces to $wgNonincludableNamespaces [13:59:36] I must admit that I don't get the template thing generally [13:59:46] I have no idea what a template is used for. [13:59:50] same [14:00:14] templates are a very handy way to stick standard chunks of text/wikicode on a page [14:00:26] like a warning message, or an info box (filled using parameters), etc [14:00:26] Danke Danien Düsentrieb! [14:00:37] Oh, OK [14:00:44] just look at any larger page on mediawiki. templates tend to be used a lot, especially for "boxy" things [14:00:45] thanks [14:01:03] @Daniel, can you repeat the var name, i just closed the chat window ^^ [14:01:12] $wgNonincludableNamespaces [14:01:21] this is new in 1.10 [14:01:33] I notice that some templates only appear on some pages. How is that achieved? The category? [14:01:43] hm? [14:01:45] and then I can still open pages like /wiki/Special:IAmSpecial ? [14:01:59] Duesentrieb_, Varange, and _Danny_B_. Thank you for all your help. [14:02:04] Next time we meet, drinks are on me. [14:02:06] Varange: templates are placed into pages explicitely. using {{templatename}} [14:02:27] Duesentrieb_, Ahh, I see. is it possible to put JS into templates? [14:02:27] Varange: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates [14:02:31] thank you [14:02:32] no. [14:02:36] that would be dangerous [14:02:39] :( [14:02:42] templates are just pages [14:02:43] So, I could put a standard disclaimer, on every page, using a Template? [14:02:47] anyone can create or modify them [14:02:49] ok [14:03:05] Like {{sillylegaldisclaimer}} [14:03:19] Jera: if you want it on *every* page, templates would be a bit combersome. better edit some system message that is shown on every page anyway. Look at Special:Allmessages [14:03:25] And it would say, "The author is in no way responsible for any personal injury that occurs from reading this page." [14:03:47] Jera: there's an impressum link at the bottom per default.... [14:03:48] I want to put a textarea on a page and a submit button. When the user clicks the button, the text in the textarea is put into the page. Can such a thing be done? [14:03:51] How long does it take to umm... get Mediawiki savvy? [14:04:02] Jera, 52 years [14:04:06] Varange: there are extensions for this. i think on is named "createpage" or something [14:04:09] Ah. My boss isn't paying for that. [14:04:17] Duesentrieb_, ahh, cool. Thanks [14:04:17] I use Wikidot. [14:04:28] www.earthcolonialgovernment.wikidot.com [14:04:46] http://www.earthcolonialgovernment.wikidot.com [14:04:47] Sorry. [14:04:49] Jera: getting the basics should be fast. from there, it's incremental learning. i don't know *everything* about it either - i think not even brion does. [14:04:58] it's constantly being extended anyway [14:05:13] Well, I sold my boss on a Wiki for his business help documentation. [14:05:16] And now I'm suffering for it. [14:05:17] Duesentrieb_: You have a website? [14:05:32] But feel free to check out my wiki. [14:05:38] Someday it may end up in Mediawiki. [14:06:30] Jens__: brightbyte.de [14:08:55] looks good -) [14:10:54] Alright, out for now. [14:10:55] Thanks. [14:15:04] Duesentrieb_: I added $wgNonincludableNamespaces = array( -1, -2, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14 ); to my LocalSettings.php but there's still a red link to the Template:&action=edit site in my article -( [14:15:50] Jens__: a red link, yes. but if you create it, it will not be included. [14:16:02] Jens__: also note that you did not block out the talk namespaces (odd numbers) [14:17:01] My Array is not complete? I copied the Namespace Identifiers from this site: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Namespace [14:17:28] There are no odd numbers listet -( [14:18:02] Jens__: well, add all positive odd numbers up to 15. these are the talk namespaces corresponding to the respective "normal" namespaces [14:18:22] "MediaWiki ships with 10 built-in namespaces, of which 8 have associated discussion namespaces, for a total of 18 built-in namespaces." [14:18:24] You know where I can find a complette list? [14:18:27] -t [14:18:36] Ah, okay! SORRY :D [14:18:51] Jens__: there are constants defined for all default namespaces in Defines.php [14:19:07] Have to look it up... mom.. [14:20:14] <^demon> (Main), Talk, Project, Project talk, Category, Category Talk, Template, Template talk, Image, Image Talk, MediaWiki, MediaWiki talk, Help, Help talk, Special, Media [14:25:15] if i only want users to access Pages from Articles / Categories then my Array should look like: $wgNonincludableNamespaces = array( -1, -2, /* 0 NS_MAIN ,*/ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, /* 14 NS_CATEGORY ,*/ 15 ); ?? [14:30:38] I also want to disable all images/image galleries (inclduing there description).. is there an option? was looking in defaultsettings.php but could not find what i am looking for [14:39:06] Jens__: you can prevent people from uploading images, but not from using them once they are there. [14:39:19] upload is disabled per default. external images are disabled, too. [14:47:11] 03(NEW) Please clean up and lock Wolof Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10707 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (jorohr) [14:48:14] brion, This is odd... I'm doing timings with the Italian Wikipedia vs. English.. 620,017 rows in the Italian version, 5.3M in the English version. With my SQL "quickfixes" at import time, English now takes 46 minutes to import, Italian takes 60 minutes. WTH? [14:49:12] I can't figure out why, but there is one interesting warning from mysql when I query the db: PRIMARY and INDEX keys should not both be set for column `rev_page` [14:49:17] on table 'revision' [14:51:35] Duesentrieb_: thank you! [14:51:59] stupid question ever, but is there a way to wrap text around a table if the table is using wikicode? [14:52:04] Any ideas on how to make a relative link to this; index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup [14:52:29] can't seem to figure it out for the likes of me! :( [14:53:04] and mediawiki's table help only talks about putting text into the table itself. [14:53:05] "wrap text around"? [14:53:14] yeah [14:53:23] so text is flowing around the table [14:53:34] like if I had a very small table on the left side the screen [14:53:46] a huge realestate is available on the ride side [14:53:49] you should be able to use the regular style constructs [14:54:03] ... which woul dbe how ? :( [14:54:18] never done this before... ever [14:54:21] as per html tables [14:54:55] the only thing that google gives me is
type thing [14:55:02] but i'm using

tags [14:55:04] {| style="blah...;" [15:01:38] bah, i love it when google wont let you find what you want [15:03:20] oop, I see why... the table format changed from MyISAM to InnoDB in the latest mediawiki source code [15:04:51] can someone please tell me why Text is in the articles and what that means? [15:10:30] 03(NEW) Enable deletion of log enteries - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10708 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (meno25bugzilla) [15:12:19] hi all [15:15:35] 04(REOPENED) New namespace for Tables and Charts on English Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2194 +comment (10l8qjvx002) [15:23:28] still dumping 3,876,000 pages [15:23:32] when will it end [15:23:34] i cant take it anymor [15:25:48] 03(mod) Enable deletion of log enteries - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10708 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [15:26:47] 14(DUP) Enable deletion of log enteries - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10708 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [15:26:48] 03(mod) Oversight should be able to hide log entries as well - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7871 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [15:36:44] 03(mod) Feature request: Upload to commons from Wikipedia, Wikibooks, etc. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1552 +comment (10alpertron) [15:47:22] i am setting up styles for tables in MediaWiki:Monobook.css but it doesnt change anything :( [15:51:46] aton``: show me [15:56:10] aton: common.css [16:44:38] hi, have probably a configuration problem. I can run my 1.10.0 withou problems on one machine, after exporting database and installing sorce on new machine... Everx page I call I receive the page "index.php" Someone any idea? [16:45:55] Kako: the pathes you have in your LocalSettings.php do not match the way your wbserver is configured [16:46:42] ? $wgScriptPath = ""; [16:47:50] Duesentrieb: Which pathes? I doesn't had configured any path. I simple unpacked the tar-ball, so they should all be default. [16:54:49] Duesentrieb: maybe you misunderstood me, I see the hole skin, all pictures.. The only thing I can't see correctly is the text of my Article. The text I see ist "...

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..." [16:56:04] Duesentrieb: I don't have an article "index.php". It seems to be so, that the title in the http-request is ignored or overwritten... [17:04:32] 03aaron * r24396 10/trunk/extensions/LanguageSelector/LanguageSelector.php: *Make hook return a value [17:07:26] re [17:07:48] when writing an extension, how can I check whether a page is a category or not? [17:08:03] do I need to use the page_namespace field? [17:14:20] rigid: look in the category table. [17:15:00] MinuteElectron: what for? [17:15:35] rigid: yes, use page_namespace. that's probably the easiest way. [17:16:11] Anyone know if its possible to use MediaWiki with Bluehost?\ [17:17:02] TOR_CNR, thanks... [17:17:06] TOR_CNR: You could scan the table to see if the page was in a category or not. [17:17:27] is there a cleaner way than doing "if($page_namespace == 14)" ? [17:17:37] NS_NAMESPACE or something...? [17:17:54] can I rely on the fact that Categories have page_namespace==14? [17:18:01] TOR_CNR: My bad. [17:18:03] MinuteElectron: that's not what he wants :) [17:18:18] <_mary_kate_> NS_CATEGORY [17:18:22] MinuteElectron, tnx anyway... it's the good will that counts :) [17:18:23] TOR_CNR: I read 'is' as 'in [17:18:28] <_mary_kate_> but it will always be 14 [17:18:30] *nod* [17:18:33] TOR_CNR: I read 'is' as 'is in'. [17:18:42] _mary_kate_, it doesn't work then... neither $NS_CATEGORY nor NS_CATEGORY [17:18:55] _mary_kate_: for various values of "always";-) [17:18:59] do i have to include something? [17:19:14] <_mary_kate_> rigid: it's in Defines.php, but that should be included by default [17:19:22] hm [17:21:18] it works! [17:21:21] thanks! [17:21:32] must have had a typo before... [17:21:51] <_mary_kate_> NotACat: i don't think the standard namespace numbers will ever change. too many things assume them. [17:22:00] *rigid has modified the tag-cloud extension to also count page-visits :) [17:22:27] now there are 2 modes, weighing by articles-per-category or weighing by visits-per-article [17:22:52] my first mediawiki-hack :) [17:28:15] I'm new to MW hacking -- what's the cleanest way to add/change text on system pages, such as the file information page (ImagePage.php)? [17:28:56] <_mary_kate_> krohnk: go to Special:Allmessages on your wiki [17:29:26] Ok, and edit the appropriate placeholder? [17:29:37] <_mary_kate_> yes [17:30:38] So there's nothing inherently wrong about using or extending an existing message for a different purpose? [17:34:19] krohnk: pay attention: some messages are not parsed (they are simply added to the page without any modification) and for the messages that are parsed, if you use a template the text in section is *not* removed [17:36:02] ok. is there a place where I can read more about this? [17:37:09] 03(NEW) Filtering Special:Allmessages by extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10709 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (meno25bugzilla) [17:38:28] 03(mod) Filtering Special:Allmessages by extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10709 (10raimond.spekking) [17:39:59] 10709 sounds like special:translate [17:40:55] hi Nikerabbit [17:43:20] daniel! [17:44:27] is there a special reason that any html injected into the title line of a page via an an extension gets escaped? [17:44:33] hey dungodung :) [17:44:38] :) [17:50:14] 03(NEW) Move summary should display redirect page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10710 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (meno25bugzilla) [17:51:09] I did mention it here too, http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2007-July/032465.html can anybody enlighten me? [17:51:24] hi dungodung [17:51:32] :P [17:54:34] <_aib> is there anything I can do to help convince someone to make a tarball of /var/lib/bugzilla/template/en/custom/ (or equivalent) on the bugzilla server and place it in http://download.wikimedia.org/bugzilla/ ? [17:55:13] <_aib> or better yet, to put that code into the subversion repository? according to the internets, this is a recurring request...the theme is simply great and a lot of people would greatly appreciate the open sourcing of mediazilla... [17:59:30] How do I programatticaly edit the data on a page, specifically a User: page? [17:59:48] <_mary_kate_> _aib: it's already been open sourced several times, it gets tiring to keep updating it with the current templates [18:00:00] I have a form and I want the data I submit from the form to appear on the user's page - basically like a profile editor [18:00:01] <_aib> that's because those templates aren't in the subversion repository [18:00:21] <_aib> which would make the notion of "updating" much more transparent... [18:00:29] AphelionZ: which form? [18:01:20] Arnomane: I added a few fields to the Special:Preferences page on the user profile tab [18:02:20] AphelionZ: so you changed the mediawiki code? [18:02:36] Arnomane: yup, no other choice.. no hooks were available [18:03:06] i am setting up styles for tables in MediaWiki:Monobook.css but it doesnt change anything :( this is my css: http://rafb.net/p/dVRp1062.html [18:04:01] AphelionZ: ok you want this info to appear on the user page, hm you need to enter the parserhook and insert your infos there e.g. in a table [18:05:13] AphelionZ: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extensions_FAQ#Parser_hooks [18:06:09] Arnomane: ok, not sure I fully understand yet... [18:06:18] Anyone know which plugin adds support for tags? [18:06:19] AphelionZ: so basically you need to check the page title and everytime you're in user: namespace grap the name and then pull the info of the preferences and display it in a nice custom table [18:07:13] Arnomane: What about just making whatever they enter into those form fields the contents of their user page? [18:07:33] Instead of rendering a different section entirely [18:07:43] AphelionZ: you mean diretcly the wiki source code [18:08:05]