tags direct to? I checked all the CSS files (monobook, common, etc) and couldn't find references to things like "mainpage_pagetitle". [01:16:39] Am I looking in the wrong place? Where's the formatting stuff stored for Mediawiki.org's homepage? [01:17:42] The "Template:Main_page" file is so dynamically linked that it's almost impossible to decipher... [01:18:02] Any ideas? :) [01:21:47] SRAnony: Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ExpandTemplates?input=%7B%7B%3AMain_Page%7D%7D [01:22:13] ... [01:22:37] Well, try that on MediaWiki.org. The styles are probably defined on the wiki page [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]. [01:23:07] Cool! I didn't know about that special page. Might be exactly what I'm looking for... [01:26:11] Should documentation about interface messages on mediawiki.org be in the Help or Manual namespace? [01:26:42] Documentation on mediawiki.org about interface messages in MediaWiki, that is. [01:26:48] Thanks for the help, PathosChild... :) [01:26:52] Welcome. :) [01:29:51] <_Danny_B_> what's the difference between log_action create and create2 ? [01:44:58] _Danny_B_: create is when someone created a user. create2 is when someone already logged in creates a new user. [01:45:17] <_Danny_B_> i see, thx [01:53:15] <_Danny_B_> hello tim [02:16:09] *Shanel pokes Nikerabbit. [02:35:38] 03(NEW) defect - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10772 normal; normal; Kate's Tools: General/Unknown; (thangam73) [02:38:59] wtf? [02:39:07] flyingparchment: is that like deletable? [02:40:13] <_sargon> does someone know how to export wiki_test to HTML? [02:42:28] :? [02:42:39] well, first of all, MediaWiki is XHTML ;) [02:43:00] <_sargon> good, and ... [02:43:02] (XML) [02:43:15] have you seen Special:Export? [02:43:19] on en-wiki that would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export [02:43:58] <_sargon> ley is be, i need to convert wiki_text formating to HTML. [02:44:07] O_O [02:44:18] <_sargon> table `text` to striped text [02:44:25] *Cbrown1023 doesn't know :'( [02:44:27] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export [02:44:29] er... [02:44:32] forgot that last post :) [02:44:35] *Cbrown1023 pasted the wrong command [02:45:15] <_sargon> so. Pear::Wiki_Text is not good. Any other ideas? [02:48:18] <_sargon> I need to convert all wiki_en articles [03:21:57] Hi There. I'm having some weird problems with my new MediaWiki installation. Running on Apache 2.2. I changed the virtual host name, and also I changed $wgServer, but either MediaWIki or Apache is not "getting" the change. Internal links still go to the old vhost. [03:22:49] I have a rather general question regarding development. I've been adding some things to the user model, including some custom attributes such as 'school attended', things that will be requiring new tables. I'd like to make sure I don't write anything that does not respect the built in memcached funtionality, are there any references for how the memcached functionality is implemented in MediaWiki or should I just dig in the sou [03:50:19] I guess there's no one around to help... [03:50:29] 03(mod) Wrong accesskeys in tooltips - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8719 (10wmbugzilla) [03:51:37] Are there skin-specific MediaWiki stylesheets for all skins, or only for Monobook? [03:52:08] sbwoodside: Maybe the links are cached? [03:52:32] All skins [03:54:20] damn, it reports new CCs? [03:54:33] (that was me) [03:54:33] TheFearow: I thought so, but only Monobook.css and Common.css are listed on Special:Allpages. [03:55:39] Pathoschild: Yes, it must be a caching problem but I have reset the caches on my browser with no effect [03:55:54] I've googled for mediawiki's cache (if any) and can't find how to delete it [03:56:23] Pathoschild: You have to create them [03:56:39] sbwoodside: Try adding &action=purge to the end [03:56:41] of the URL [03:57:03] TheFearow: Sorry, I meant Special:Allmessages (which lists uncustomized messages). [03:57:18] Ahh, I believe its included anyway, just not there by default [03:57:27] Its not a default set message, but it is used [03:57:43] Okay. [04:00:53] TheFearow: is there a way for me to purge the cache from the command line or in the database? [04:01:08] sbwoodside: Not that I am aware of, I don't know exactly how it works [04:01:22] It seems to be forwarding me already to the old virtual hostname before it applies the purge action [04:04:26] *jeremyb is about to file a new bug but expects that it's a dupe [04:04:26] so, if anyone knows the mediazilla db well, here goes: browser features/behavior for gecko browsers should be determined using the gecko revision number *not* the vendor/product name (firefox, minefield, etc.) [04:04:30] also, how well is http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1381 kept up to date? [04:08:16] mediawiki can be an amazingly frustrating piece of software to configure :-/ [04:10:44] doesn't most software fit that description? [04:11:05] programmer's are generally not the best UI designers [04:11:08] IME [04:11:36] I normally use Wikia it's a piece of cake but doesn't have the features and the name recognition that my clients wanted [04:14:49] i can't find any documentation on where MediaWiki stores the page cache. [04:14:53] it must be somewhere [04:15:54] 03brion * r24535 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/dumpTextPass.php: [04:15:56] Quick fix for dump problem: [04:15:58] Errors are ignored on a connection once it's died, so additional exceptions weren't getting thrown. [04:16:00] We weren't detecting this case and ended up spitting out the rest of the XML without any more text. [04:16:02] Should now die correctly once the timeouts finish. [04:16:30] sbwoodside: what kind of name do they want? [04:17:15] well, I had it at wiki.communitech.x-33.packetworks.net on a temporary basis, now I'm trying to switch it over to wiki.communitech.c [04:17:17] (they know mediawiki but not wikia and you can't just point them to info online? not that i know so much about wiki :P) [04:17:20] wiki.communitech.ca [04:17:30] Wait. [04:17:34] I normally us WIKKA [04:17:39] not wikia ! whoops [04:17:44] freudian slip there [04:17:44] haha [04:18:16] yeah my clients don't want to use a hosted service they want to host it themselves [04:18:34] anyway the DNS is all correct but mediawiki is not happy with the domain name switch [04:19:09] btw, i'm not a MW dev and have never installed it, but 1) why do you need to know where the cache is and 2) have you worked with MW before? [04:19:41] sbwoodside: what are the symptoms of unahppiness? [04:19:47] well, I've used Wikipedia for years. I looked at the source code for MW, but this is my first install [04:19:49] on FreeBSD [04:20:03] used/edited wikipedia a lot [04:20:26] so, packetworks was MW as well not wikka? [04:21:22] yeah, it's just a colocation place where my clients server is at [04:21:28] they just host my box [04:21:35] I install everything myself [04:21:44] sbwoodside: and did you see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File_cache? [04:22:35] yeah. the annoying this is that it doesn't say where the cache is actually stored. [04:22:48] i guess I will try changing that variable [04:22:57] sbwoodside: what are the symptoms of unahppiness? [04:23:17] well, as I said, it's putting the wrong hostname into the internal links [04:25:35] oh [04:25:47] sbwoodside: truncate table objecthost; [04:25:52] er [04:25:52] and what happens when you purge? [04:25:54] objectcache [04:26:27] flyingparchment: i'll try that [04:29:47] hrmm... in a viewvc dir listing @ wikimedia it looks like the revno aligned at the of the cell [04:30:53] TheFearow: Do you know if the same is true for the JavaScript files? [04:32:58] Pathoschild: What? [04:33:40] Do you know if there is a JavaScript file in the MediaWiki namespace for every skin? [04:37:01] Yes [04:37:05] Its just not there by default [04:38:38] TheFearow: On a default installation, only Common.js and Monobook.js will work? [04:38:47] No [04:38:55] Any will work, but you have to create them first [04:39:01] Okay. [04:39:22] as long as it matches the skin name, like monobook, classic, cologneblue, etc [04:52:31] hrmm... i just hit ctrl-w before the page finished loading and it didn't just say 'watching...' and then show the message [04:52:31] it makes sense but i never really thought about that being JS (my renewed interest in MW is quite recent :) [04:53:37] 03(NEW) CSS not included in page with SyntaxHighlight GeSHi - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10773 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: SyntaxHighlight (GeSHi); (kenny) [05:03:43] ok, I fixed my apache problems and now I'm back to debugging MediaWiki [05:04:18] jeremyb: That's because the JavaScript can't change the page until the page's DOM (Document Object Model) is available, which only happens when the page is done loading. [05:04:20] I have $wgServer = "http://wiki.communitech.ca"; but it's still making links for the old vhost (wiki.communitech.x-33.packetworks.net) [05:04:44] Pathoschild: yeah, i know i just never thought about it before [05:05:11] sbwoodside: what happens when you manually purge a page with such a link? [05:05:33] well, right now, and this is dumb, I don't have an account inside that wiki [05:05:42] when I try action=purge it appears to be ignoring it because of that. [05:06:36] sbwoodside: I don't think the problem is MediaWiki caching; I think it's supposed to clear the cache when you edit LocalSettings.php. [05:06:36] I just truncated the objectcache table again though, and that doesn't seem to make a difference [05:07:28] I know that it's seeing my changes to LocalSettings.php because if I add gibberish at the end it breaks [05:09:15] erg. pastie doesn't like URLs [05:10:48] OK, here's my config [05:10:49] http://pastebin.com/m29cb9709 [05:11:28] shit [05:11:30] that was dumb [05:11:32] heheheh [05:11:36] let me post it again [06:01:12] do parameters in templates not get parsed if they're inside a tag? [06:01:30] Thers a current bug with that [06:02:22] hmm [06:02:25] bug 2257 iirc [06:12:47] 14(WFM) CSS not included in page with SyntaxHighlight GeSHi - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10773 +comment (10robchur) [06:13:05] 03(mod) CSS not included in page with SyntaxHighlight GeSHi - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10773 -need-review -patch (10robchur) [06:14:31] 14(INVALID) defect - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10772 (10robchur) [06:20:30] 03(NEW) error in the program - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10774 15enhancement; normal; Kate's Tools: General/Unknown; (thangam73) [06:21:07] 03(mod) error in the program - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10774 (10thangam73) [06:25:07] 03raymond * r24536 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesKk_cn.php MessagesKk_kz.php MessagesKk_tr.php): [06:25:10] * (bug 10367) Update Kazakh translations [06:25:12] Patch by AlefZet [06:25:24] 14(INVALID) error in the program - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10774 (10robchur) [06:25:47] 03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [06:26:02] Thats not the most specifc bug request I have ever seen [06:26:12] (10774) [06:26:25] *robchurch slaps Simetrical [06:26:27] That is all. [06:26:58] 03(mod) Section edit links showing up in wrong place - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1629 (10wmbugzilla) [06:37:19] "Error in the program." [06:39:19] That guy reports some good bugs. [07:35:09] hi [07:35:32] I get "Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at C:\wamp\www\testwiki\extensions\RSSReader\lastRSS.php:219) in C:\wamp\www\testwiki\includes\WebResponse.php on line 10" [07:35:57] when I add my extension to MediaWiki 1.10.1 (worked perfectly for 1.10.0) [07:36:10] DFRussia: usually this means your file is broken :D [07:36:15] extra whitespace at end of file maybe? [07:36:19] is there some sort of common bug that causes that? [07:36:23] extra whitespace? [07:36:24] look at like 219 of lastRSS.php [07:36:27] I shall check [07:36:28] extra blank lines [07:36:31] or spaces after ?> [07:36:31] thnx [07:36:53] oh wow [07:36:58] thanks a lot brion! [07:41:19] *Werdna watches [07:43:02] move along... nothing to see here... [07:44:00] <_wooz> lo [07:47:23] re: [07:47:59] How can I make a page to have "foo" as page name but "My smart page" as title? [07:53:06] Duesentrieb, are you there? [08:01:26] EK_123: kind of. what's up? [08:02:04] omgs: {{DISPLAYTITLE:My smart page}}. OR, more easily, make a redirect from foo to "My smart page" [08:04:18] zomg zomg zomg [08:04:37] Duesentrieb, I was looking for an extension and you mentioned it but I forgot...I hope you can help me remember [08:04:47] Duesentrieb: i think we fixed that so it only works if it's canonically the same, like IPhone and iPhone :) [08:05:02] I was looking for an extensions which shows me something like stats....new pages or recent pages [08:05:14] I want to add this in some of my pages [08:05:23] especially the index pages I have [08:05:31] brion: oh... really? that would explain why i couldn't get it to work when testing :) [08:05:37] omgs: use a redirect, then [08:05:57] brion: does {{#displaytitle}} work too, btw? i should... [08:06:16] doubt it [08:06:16] but try [08:06:19] EK_123: the one I wrote is called "News". [08:06:36] I can find it on en.wikipedia.org? [08:06:47] no. [08:06:51] extensions are not on wikipedia. [08:06:55] you ccan find it on mediawiki.org [08:06:58] EK_123: there are others, like the DynamicPageList extension [08:07:19] yes I was looking for that [08:07:22] thnx m8 :D [08:07:44] brion: then there is no way to get a different display title? [08:08:07] brion: while i have your attention... for the gadgets extension, i need to parse (in my own special way) a system message, pretty much for every page request. it would be nice if the message cache could be used to cache the parsed version, but i have no idea how i'd do that. is it possible to store "variants" of messages in there? [08:08:14] omgs: use a redirect. [08:08:35] omgs: that'S not changing the title, but defining an alias for accessing the page. effectively the same. [08:08:36] Duesentrieb: what I want is to not create "My smart page" [08:08:43] omgs: WHY? [08:09:13] Well, I have to make things as easy as possible for another person [08:09:22] 03thomasv * r24537 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/proofread.js: minor fix [08:09:27] omgs: one of the wiki ideas is that a pages *name* (and thus address) ois the same as its title. [08:09:32] and how does this make it any easier? [08:09:51] omgs: as easy as possible means "don't use obscure magic" and "keep things consistent". [08:10:06] dennyV: the {{DISPLAYTITLE:My title}} is easy enough [08:10:24] omgs: but simply create a page with the title you want it easier, and more obvious. [08:10:51] Duesentrieb: maybe I overlooked some basic rules... [08:11:15] How can I create a page without defining an "obscure" and spaceless name? [08:11:34] by using spaces [08:11:40] spaces are allowed in page names. [08:11:52] mmm I think I see... [08:11:59] things that are not allowed (or tricky) include: |, &, +, # [08:12:40] ok... [08:13:07] My major concern is choose a "fully qualified" name for pages [08:13:19] qualified how? [08:14:11] The intention for this is a local installation to help studying some items, taken from books and other related material [08:14:37] naming conventions are up to you. [08:14:42] So, I have "book 1", which has some themes [08:14:46] using "short" names only makes it more obscure. [08:15:10] And in this book, there are many themes, with their long description [08:15:11] you can use subpages. [08:15:22] "book 1/chapter 2" [08:16:10] you can enable subpage support for the main names in localsettings, which gives you some handy features [08:16:21] $wgNamespacesWithSubpages[NS_MAIN] = true; [08:16:25] I think I read somewhere that subpages were not an advice [08:16:52] depends on taste i guess. [08:16:59] works well enough [08:17:54] I'm afraid I don't fully understand "main names" [08:20:33] Duesentrieb: isn't there a GUI option to enable subpages? [08:21:32] Duesentrieb, you are the man! You have great work [08:22:07] omgs: no. configuration i in LocalSettings.php, peroid. [08:32:49] Hey, can I create a navigation bar which is dynamic for every User? so that a non logged in User doesn't see anything, User XYZ see his own links and User ABC see his own links? And everybody can just change his own navigation bar? [08:32:55] is this possible? [08:34:47] Shanel_away: ? [08:39:16] *Werdna giggles [08:41:20] Duesentrieb: did you see ubuntu package for mediawiki? [08:41:40] There is some directory structure that makes it somehow difficult [08:42:33] There is no definition for the specific element (NS_MAIN) in the array [08:42:51] There are other, but not that one [08:43:19] omgs: that'S why i told you to add it. do not edit DefaultSettings.php though. [08:44:02] omgs: also, i wouldn't use bundles for mediawiki - they tend to not be up to date, and do odd stuff with the directory structure, moving files around ,etc [08:44:14] ok, but I just wanted to make sure the setting was right [08:44:59] I expected to find the setting to false, but at least existing [08:45:36] default settings are generally not repeated explicitely. [08:46:30] What's the problem to enable it by default? too much overhead? [08:49:07] enable what per default? subpages for the main namesapce? [08:49:20] well, changing defaults may mess things up when upgrading, for one thing. [08:49:37] indeed [08:49:48] people expect prior behaviour in issues like that to be retained [08:50:03] judging by the variable structure, it appears that subpage support was added later [08:50:08] and people wanted it to be an option [08:50:16] right [08:50:36] now while it may be a nice idea to enable it by default in new installations, people don't like it when things like that change when they upgrade [08:50:37] enabling it per default for user pages is consistent with the way people used User:foo/bar [08:51:06] especially seeing as people often would have articles such as "This and/or that" [08:51:09] et cetera [08:51:12] but in the main namespace, foo/bar might not be a subpage of foo (foo may not even exist), but simply a name containing a "/" [08:51:27] heh, I took the words out of your mouth [08:51:35] indeed [08:51:56] I need to work on that userCan stuff [08:52:09] but I've already spent two hours on some second life work, so I suppose I should do that "study" thing [08:52:34] me too. [08:52:50] *Werdna has exams in about 5 weeks [08:58:52] 8 weeks here [09:00:38] :( [09:01:04] *Werdna goes back to tangents, normals, chords and intersections thereof of parametric parabolae [09:01:07] BORING [09:18:13] maybe you can help me.. I just installed wikiEd. and in the preview of monobook.js it works but then it doesn't there is n symbol on top besides the log off button, but I don't see the editor? [09:20:40] nobody can help me?! [09:23:51] press ctrl-r [09:24:09] well .. I did ;) I cleared everything [09:26:43] *shrug* [09:26:46] then look for js errors [09:27:44] what is *shrug* ? ;) .. OK looking for js errors.. where? [09:28:40] in your browser's error console [09:31:31] hmm .. sry but I haven't used the error console yet, so I don't know how to open.. I use Firefox 2 .. [09:39:44] Duesentrieb ?? [09:43:25] Duesentrieb: if I'm writing Title::getUserPermissionsErrorPage (a function that returns an error page to display inline with another page), should it return the errors in HTML or wikitext? [09:45:38] *Werdna asks flyingparchment instead [09:50:29] well .. now I know how to open -.- but now he's away... [09:54:14] hey guys [09:54:20] how do I edit the navigation bar on the side? [09:54:26] MediaWiki:Sidebar [09:54:32] edit that page to customize it [09:55:44] thanks Jack_Phoenix [09:55:49] np [09:55:55] and another question though sorry [09:57:03] you know on wikipedia how you can type Wikipedia:Article OR WP:Article...My wiki is called "Abstract wiki Designs" and so it takes ages to type out that thing, so how do i make it so I can just do AWD:Article? do I just add another nameserver called AWD? [09:57:25] uhh, no [09:57:55] you'd make a redirect from AWD:Article to the article where you'd want it to point [09:59:17] ohhh ok [09:59:20] thanks :D [09:59:30] one more thing sorry lol :$ [09:59:34] i probably have more [09:59:40] you know Special:Random? [10:00:05] how do I configure that so it only shows a random page from a certain namespace? [10:04:13] I've got lots of questions^^ .here is one ;) I hope somebody can solve it... [10:04:22] can I create a navigation bar which is dynamic for every User? so that a non logged in User doesn't see anything, User XYZ see his own links and User ABC see his own links? And everybody can just change his own navigation bar? [10:07:35] Hi, is there any way to view the page source without having to log in to a wiki [10:08:18] sure, just click edit [10:08:40] but it then sends me to a login page [10:09:04] erm [10:09:12] I can view source in protected pages without loging in [10:09:28] ?action=raw [10:09:36] yeah, that one [10:09:43] *Werdna smiles [10:09:53] Raymond_: if I'm writing Title::getUserPermissionsErrorPage (a function that returns an error page to display inline with another page), should it return the errors in HTML or wikitext? [10:10:08] exerent thanks [10:10:23] hmm [10:10:56] (excellent even) [10:12:52] Werdna: doesn't it depends on the other page, if it use $wgOut->addHtml or ->addWikiText ? [10:13:12] Raymond_: it's a generic function [10:15:03] yes, but Title::getUserPermissionsErrorPageyes returns some text to display in context with the calling page? [10:16:11] if I understood right [10:20:52] Raymond_: yes. [10:20:56] but, which calling page? [10:21:22] calling page = "to display inline with another page" ? [10:23:02] well, the idea being [10:31:34] Can I integrate a RSS Feed in my MediaWikI? [11:51:05] 03(mod) Every category page doesn't sort article Bulgarian (cyrillic) names correctly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10771 (10some_777) [11:55:37] hey - is there a way to give a reason when doing a rollback? [11:55:43] no [11:55:48] so simple [11:56:07] Ace_NoOne: use undo instead. [11:56:15] it's sexier. and I wrote it. [11:56:20] lol aye [11:56:32] undo is slow :P [11:56:39] YOU're slow [11:56:50] your mum's slow [11:56:51] *Werdna ducks [11:56:56] D: [11:57:02] I shoulda seen that coming [11:58:02] <_sargon> does someone know how to export wiki_text formating to HTML? [11:58:57] _sargon: an entire (set of) page(s), or just some text? [11:59:29] <_sargon> all pages in table `text` [11:59:53] table "text"? anyway, there is a HTML dump script in mw/maintenance [12:00:35] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/maintenance/dumpHTML.php [12:06:07] <_sargon> there is tabel `text`in mediawiki database. I need to create another table and import all pages from old table to new one. Pear::Wiki_Text doesn't parse properly. [12:06:23] 03(NEW) Update french (fr) localisation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10775 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (alex.emsenhuber) [12:12:06] I'll do it. [12:13:40] heh, my patch is translated in it [12:19:16] 03(mod) Update french (fr) localisation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10775 +comment (10Andrew) [12:20:14] Werdna: I willl check and commit the fr.patch soon [12:20:58] I already looked at it [12:21:01] there are syntax errors [12:21:36] +'nocreate-loggedin' => 'Vous n.avez pas la permission de cr�er de nouvelles pages sur ce wiki.', [12:21:40] +'permissionserrors' => 'Erreur de permissions', [12:21:41] this gives me a parse error [12:21:43] +'permissionserrorstext' => 'Vous n.avez pas la permission d.effectuer l.op�ration demand�e pour {{PLURAL:$1|la raison suivante|les raisons suivantes}} :", [12:23:03] ' " [12:27:38] where? [12:27:44] ohh, I see [12:29:24] fixed all the syntax errors [12:29:28] but still another error [12:30:11] I know [12:30:13] there were about 10 [12:31:22] commit [12:32:38] aaag [12:32:45] do you commit? [12:33:44] yes [12:33:50] Committed revision 24538. [12:33:53] hey, wait [12:34:11] commit conflict :( [12:34:48] *Raymond_ kicks CIA-13 [12:34:48] ow [12:35:41] 03rainman * r24539 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (25 files in 10 dirs): (log message trimmed) [12:35:43] Refactor: [12:35:45] * droped PhraseIndexer, replaced it with TitleIndexer which handles [12:35:47] words and phrases that appear in titles [12:35:49] * refactor api to enable incremental updates, use NgramIndexer as [12:35:51] base class [12:35:53] Add: [12:35:59] I have a wikitable on one of my pages, here: http://abstractdesigns.info/wiki/Tutorials:Home I copied the code from en.wikipedia WP:VP how do i get the background of the table the same? [12:36:01] *Werdna stabs self [12:36:11] I accidentally included another patch mixed in [12:36:19] because on the WP:VP it has the blue background and the lines etc [12:36:27] i copied the code exactly [12:36:28] just edited the text [12:36:40] css [12:36:46] 03werdna * r24540 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Remove partial patch mixed in with last commit [12:37:36] Werdna, yes but how and what, I couldn't find any css code in the WP:VP [12:39:05] heh, monobook.css [12:39:07] or common.css [12:39:56] where is the one for WP:VP? so i can copy it? [12:40:21] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Villagepump [12:40:28] i want my table to look like that [12:40:29] 03(FIXED) Update french (fr) localisation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10775 +comment (10Andrew) [12:40:54] at the moment, it looks like this: http://abstractdesigns.info/wiki/Tutorials:Home [12:41:22] *Werdna stabs CIA-13 [12:43:35] *Raymond_ kicks CIA-13 [12:43:36] ow [12:43:50] CIA-13: do not complain to you work! [12:43:54] *NotAmused kicks Raymond_ [12:44:07] ow! [12:44:16] *Shinjiman slaps CIA-13 [12:44:22] *NotAmused stabs Shinjiman [12:44:34] *NotAmused shocks at Shinjiman being in Sydney [12:47:06] flyingparchment: I got me a nickname [12:48:28] *NotAmused tackles Raymond_ [12:48:30] *NotAmused kicks CIA-13 [12:48:31] ow [12:49:47] It's ok, I fixed it :D thanks [12:49:49] *NotAmused kicks CIA-13 [12:49:49] ow [12:51:39] But i would like to know. the page "Special:Random" is it possible to configure that so it brings a random page from a specific nameserver? and exclude's certain pages/ [12:53:13] hi [12:53:13] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion#Listing_a_category_on_.22Categories_for_discussion.22_page [12:53:21] Commons:Categories for discussion/Current requests/{{CURRENTYEAR}}/{{CURRENTMONTH}}/Category: [12:53:26] why arent those transcluded? [12:54:01] would anybody care to hear about the minor bug i just found in mediawiki? [12:55:51] tell us [12:56:03] 03bartek * r24542 10/trunk/extensions/wikiwyg/share/MediaWiki/extensions/CreatePage/ (5 files in 2 dirs): also adding CreatePage extension to Wikiwyg [12:58:11] 03(NEW)

 tag bug(s)? - "Save page" destroys content - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10776 major; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (jhannah)
[13:02:10] 	hey!
[13:06:49] 	http://webapps.imagestream.com/wiki/index.php/Router_Installation_and_Configuration_Manual <-- only the first template works on this page. can somebody take a peek and point me to why?
[13:08:29] 	can anyone help me with my question?
[13:08:40] 	what's the question?
[13:08:43] 	not if you don't say what the question is.
[13:11:12] 	GBenemy: you can user Special:Random/image for example
[13:11:49] 	Special:Random/namespace in general
[13:13:16] 	03(NEW) Anchor only links create A tags without tooltips - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10777 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (hippytrail)
[13:15:23] 	Raymond_  but I want to make it so it's JUST a namespace and the title stays as Special:Random  Also, I wanted to exclude certain pages from that namespace
[13:17:56] 	GBenemy: try http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgExtraRandompageSQL
[13:19:06] 	that's a cool global.  Never noticed it before.
[13:19:21] 	thanks Raymond_
[13:19:36] 	me too :)
[13:19:44] 	;-)
[13:20:06] 	I wonder if it would be worth making an extension to manage that global...
[13:20:15] 	like for category isolation
[13:22:37] 	anybody have any idea why {{:page}} works only once?
[13:22:39] 	Raymond_ I added that code in, and excluded the page I wanted, and when i go Special:Random/namespace It still brought me back to te page I excluded
[13:23:13] 	hmm
[13:24:27] 	GBenemy: show me you entry please. and what exactly have you entered? Special:Random/namespace is invalid. I wrote "namespace" as a placeholder for any namespace
[13:25:22] 	Hello
[13:26:19] 	yes I know
[13:26:23] 	and i subst it
[13:26:25] 	dw
[13:26:27] 	it's working now
[13:26:56] 	hey
[13:28:09] 	i have a problem updating mw from 1.4.4 to 1.10, maybe anyone knows the following : I converted a latin1 Database to utf-8 and set the mw-encoding to utf8. Everything is fine, the german umlauts show up right in the pages. There's only one problem..
[13:28:16] 	hi
[13:28:35] 	The page titles show up right, but they don't lead anywhere if they contain an umlaut
[13:30:07] 	mysql 5.0.22, php 5.1.2, mw 1.10.1, db collation utf8, db encoding utf8, apache encoding utf8
[13:30:32] 	03bartek * r24543 10/trunk/extensions/wikiwyg/share/MediaWiki/extensions/CreatePage/SpecialCreatePage.php: path correction
[13:34:06] 	hi everyone
[13:34:45] 	to install wikipedia, is it the pages-meta-current.xml.bz2 I have to import ?
[13:35:08] 	I've been told there was only one dump needed for the installation
[13:46:35] 	What's the benifit of using ImageMagick f/ image conversion?
[13:47:54] 	well, I figured someone would know.  ;-)  do we all just use it because it sounds cool?
[14:09:33] 	is there a Special page extension that returns a random page from a category? I know I've seen the question asked before - just can't remember the answer. :/
[14:19:20] 	03bartek * r24544 10/trunk/extensions/wikiwyg/share/MediaWiki/extensions/CreatePage/SpecialCreatePage.php: path correction II
[14:26:37] 	jimbojw, nope
[14:27:14] 	TimLaqua: I found AdvancedRandom in svn - it might work
[14:27:48] 	Is that new?
[14:28:11] <_Pol_>	hello ;)
[14:29:35] <_Pol_>	guys, is it possible, without extension to give access to a namespace to some users and block access to it to some others ?
[14:30:50] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access - in 1.10+ it is
[14:30:54] 	userblacklist
[14:31:21] 	ok false understand
[14:32:06] 	Preventing access should pry be moved to "Restricting access"...
[14:32:23] *Cbrown1023 	sighs
[14:32:25] 	just set-up a redirect :)
[14:32:40] 	O_o @ Sundance
[14:32:42] 	:-P
[14:33:01] 	but it's one of the precious Manual: articles!  ;-)
[14:33:35] <_Pol_>	I'm looking for a simple way to prevent some users to access to some pages ...
[14:33:42] <_Pol_>	maybe some groups of users
[14:33:51] <_Pol_>	I know mediawiki is not for that
[14:33:57] 	sorry my English is slepping
[14:34:17] 	heh
[14:34:19] <_Pol_>	but here in the company we have sensible data that cannot be seen by every groups of users...
[14:34:46] 	and the Namespace restrictions won't work for you?
[14:34:53] 	_Pol_: Restrict viewing of all pages
[14:35:09] <_Pol_>	no, only few pages...
[14:35:14] 	you mean a  child-proff?
[14:35:30] 	only acces for over xx years?
[14:35:52] 	03(NEW) Update for Cantonese language (zh-yue) #50, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese (PRC) and Chinese (Taiwan) localisation (zh-cn/zh-tw) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10778 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (shinjiman)
[14:36:32] 	_Pol_: see the #Restrict viewing of just some pages section
[14:38:31] <_Pol_>	Sundance_Raphael: no, not a child prof... just a forbidden access to a group of users... that's all
[14:38:38] *Cbrown1023 	sees what you mean
[14:38:43] 	but did you look at that section?
[14:38:44] *TimLaqua 	doesn't
[14:39:18] 	TimLaqua: like for a company website, but only certain people with the permission "board" (i.e. the comapny's board) can see pages that contain private information
[14:40:02] <_Pol_>	Cbrown1023: i'm looking for it :)
[14:40:04] 	Pol i men the techink
[14:40:23] 	Use SharePoint.
[14:40:25] 	;-)
[14:40:30] <_Pol_>	bleah
[14:40:35] 	:(
[14:40:36] <_Pol_>	we use free software here...
[14:40:40] <_Pol_>	only free software :)
[14:40:44] 	hehe
[14:40:59] <_Pol_>	Cbrown1023: where to see that?
[14:41:24] 	http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_just some_pages
[14:41:30] 	oops
[14:41:34] 	http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_just_some_pages
[14:41:39] *Cbrown1023 	forgot an underscore
[14:42:17] <_Pol_>	Ok I was reading it... so exept deleting the page, there is no way
[14:42:17] 	03bartek * r24545 10/trunk/extensions/wikiwyg/share/MediaWiki/extensions/CreatePage/js/createpage.js: path correction III
[14:42:21] 	all that says is "it's hard".  ;-)
[14:42:24] <_Pol_>	so I'm gonna install an extension then
[14:42:29] 	good call.
[14:42:31] 	Tim: :-P
[14:42:36] 	_Pol_: yay! :)
[14:42:38] *Cbrown1023 	hopes it works
[14:43:02] *Cbrown1023 	sees if we have any speedy candidates
[14:43:10] 	nope :(
[15:00:23] 	hey brion :)
[15:01:26] 	heyyy
[15:06:40] 	hi brion
[15:07:20] 	03(NEW) "Edit pages on double click" produces warning " Undefined index: edit in includes\SkinTemplate.php" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10779 minor; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (mediawiki)
[15:24:58] 	03(mod) Install Duplicator extension on German Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8833  (10raimond.spekking)
[16:01:29] 	where can I find the setting that controls the maximum template size
[16:27:49] 	if I have an article which contains the text "[[Category:X]]" - shouldn't there be a row in the pagelinks table with pl_from equal to the page_id, pl_namespace=14 (the category namespace number) and pl_title="X" ?
[16:28:27] 	or am I not understanding the way the pagelinks table works
[16:30:31] 	is there a possibility to revert all changes that a certain user made over a few days?
[16:30:37] 	(vandalism)
[16:31:58] 	are extensions all coded in php
[16:32:09] 	nevermind on my pagelinks question - it seems that Category inclusion is not stored there as I had originally thought - that's in categorylinks (doh)
[16:32:28] 	jimbojw, yeah, if you did [[:Category:X]], you'd get a pagelink
[16:32:51] 	thanks tim
[16:35:18] 	how do i make it so that every time someone creates a new page, it automatically inputs preset data in the text box, from a template
[16:35:27] 	so they could work on it from there
[16:40:45] 	feltipen, everytime?  Or just for specific instances?  The &preload=Template:NewHelpPage sort of argument is pretty common
[16:41:41] 	otherwise, if it's f/ every new page - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Boilerplate
[16:52:33] 	tim, that 'argument' you mentioned, does it have to be written into an extension?
[16:52:44] 	nope
[16:52:47] 	part of the path
[16:52:55] 	1sec
[16:52:56] 	Hm, is there a way to use an image resource as a link to a wiki page? (i.e. not to the image's page)
[16:53:53] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Project:Support_desk&action=edit&preload=Template%3ASignature-preload§ion=new
[16:53:58] 	so for instance, my input in the search box is 'Gouda&preload=Template:Cheese' ?
[16:54:24] 	Hm, my problem might be solvable using templates too, eh?
[16:55:43] 	feltipen, you have to make an external link just like that because you need the full query string.  You can use the plainlinks class to get rid of the external link icon.
[16:56:01] 	ok
[16:56:04] 	See this page http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk - for an example - the "Click HERE to post question" link
[16:56:06] 	ah, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Navigational_images - that took a while to find :)
[16:57:05] 	otherwise, the Boilerplate exentsion puts specific text in if someone creates a new page.
[16:57:15] 	hmm
[16:57:16] 	also uses a specific Template for the source text.
[16:57:28] 	interesting, thx
[16:57:45] 	what about that red box at the top that gives them instructions
[16:57:47] 	how do i put that in?
[16:58:19] 	&editintro=Template%3AQuestions-preload
[16:58:23] 	;-)
[16:59:38] 	%3A is :
[16:59:45] 	affirmative
[17:00:06] 	so that argument is added into the same query string?
[17:00:11] 	yup
[17:01:00] 	amazing
[17:01:10] 	indeed.  clever MW developers.  ;-)
[17:01:21] 	are extensions all done in php?
[17:01:28] 	99%
[17:01:31] 	hmmmmmmm
[17:01:56] 	"extension" is a tricky concept.  but yeah, most "extensions" for MW are PHP
[17:02:09] 	i want to make a smart field box that checks the user's realtime input against a database in an external website...that would have to be done with an extension, right?
[17:02:37] 	you mean for like auto-suggestions via AJAX?
[17:02:41] 	feltipen: "realtime input" implied Javascript
[17:02:46] 	sounds about right
[17:02:50] 	I'm using templates to include multiple sections into a single page. MediaWiki only imports the first section. I've tried increasing MAX_INCLUDE_SIZE and MAX_INCLUDE_REPEAT is there someother reason that {{:TEXT}} would only work once?
[17:03:16] 	feltipen, yeah, you'll have to use an extension to inject the javascript in to the page load as well as create teh "smart field" that fires the javascript.
[17:03:36] 	hm yeah
[17:05:21] 	can i create as many sub-categories as i want? like sub-sub-sub-sub-categories?
[17:05:31] 	i mean levels of sub-categories
[17:05:40] 	aton`, yup
[17:06:29] 	all categories are just categories.  and sub-category lists are just al ist of categories that belong to the category you're looking at.
[17:10:01] 	03(NEW) Postgresql doesn' t allow illegal utf8 characters in statements - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10780 major; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (pomac)
[17:38:50] 	so where can i find a list of arguments that can be included in links?
[17:39:08] 	like &preload, &editintro
[17:41:31] 	Does anybody know how to prevent Parser functions from creating extraneous  tags before their output is rendered?
[17:44:31] 	AphelionZ: yes
[17:44:59] 	that has to do with the way the parser interprets blocks
[17:45:10] 	are you outputting wikitext, or raw html?
[17:45:27] 	*blocks = block level elements
[17:46:17] 	jimbojw - i believe I'm outputting raw html - my last call is return ($data, 'isHTML' => TRUE, 'noParse' => true); 
[17:46:24] 	right
[17:47:04] 	i recently wrote about this subject: http://jimbojw.com/wiki/index.php?title=Raw_HTML_Output_from_a_MediaWiki_Parser_Function
[17:47:18] 	you can skip down to "The Solution"
[17:47:34] 	awesome!
[17:47:36] 	thanks so much
[17:47:41] 	np
[17:47:43] 	good luck
[17:47:59] 	jimbojw: why don't you write about it on mediawiki.org? :)
[17:49:09] 	well, initially I created my blog as a place to start building "my brand" - the jimbojw name that is
[17:49:13] 	jimbojw - i edit the parser object's function
[17:49:14] 	?
[17:49:39] 	no - you don't want to edit any of the Parser's code - but you will be calling a method on the Parser
[17:49:43] 	if that makes any sense
[17:50:10] 	yeah, a little
[17:50:20] 	let me try it
[17:50:23] 	be back in like 5 mins
[17:50:41] 	basically, when you return an array with noparse and isHTML, the parser will itself do what I've written (create a unique string etc)
[17:51:03] 	by doing it yourself, you bypass the part of the Parser that injects the two newlines - which intern become paragraphs
[17:51:19] 	ok, that makes total sense
[17:52:21] 	looking to force logging in for any editing on an already up and running mediawiki
[17:54:55] 	macpell: you need to configure $wgGroupPermissions in your LocalSettings.php: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgGroupPermissions
[17:56:45] 	that worked perfectly jimbojw, thanks
[17:56:53] 	np
[17:56:56] 	glad to hear it
[17:57:46] 	what about the timestamp that $wgUser->mRegistration holds... can i treat that like a normal unix timestamp or is that something different? because it's returning a strange date for me
[17:58:18] 	what is it returning?
[17:58:24] 	AphelionZ: should be a normal timestamp
[17:58:40] 	k
[18:05:54] 	jimbojw. thanks for the link. I've got it working now.
[18:06:06] 	good deal
[18:06:45] 	03(NEW) Including a Special Page adds a blank line - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10781 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (sergiogomez)
[18:11:12] 	what's the best way to import a large amount of data in to a wiki?  is there a prebuilt script in /maintenence?
[18:15:54] 	03(mod) Including a Special Page adds a blank line - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10781  (10sergiogomez)
[18:15:57] 	Can you make MediaWiki take a different css for a single page, without any skin edits? Say you have a Mainpage and everything else, you want to remove the portlets on the left completely for the Mainpage only, can this be achieved?
[18:16:17] 	yes.  body.Main_Page { ... }
[18:17:05] 	how's that work?
[18:17:18] 	the  has the pages name as a css class
[18:17:29] 	Really....
[18:17:44] 	my timestamp for registration is 20070703004 which translates to July 4 1925??
[18:17:52] 	what on earth is going on here..
[18:18:06] 	that's not a unix timestamp
[18:18:14] 	that's a wacky TS_MW stamp
[18:18:24] 	oooh
[18:18:26] 	how do I convert
[18:18:28] 	unixtiemstamp is seconds since unix epoch
[18:18:44] 	i just got that from $wgUser->mRegistration
[18:18:47] 	hmm its actually "page-Main_Page" but your answer helped a great deal, thanks :) i see now how it can be done
[18:19:25] 	never noticed the article title was in there before.  good to know.
[18:19:35] 	AphelionZ: 2007 07 03
[18:19:43] 	AphelionZ, I'll go see if there's a conversion func already written
[18:20:08] 	I think the inclusion of the article title is something that has been added in newer versions (1.9 or 1.10)
[18:20:27] 	the templates i have have been edited and ware vrom 1.8.x and they did not have that in there
[18:20:35] 	huh.
[18:20:40] 	well, it's a cool idea for srue.
[18:21:00] 	hi,
[18:21:08] 	Its a very cool idea, you can technically style eveery single plage totally different, all with one CSS...
[18:21:21] 	Hi Klemmi
[18:21:41] 	alphascorpii: try $wgLang->timeanddate( wfTimestamp( TS_MW, $wgUser->mRegistration ), true )
[18:21:42] 	can anyone tell me, where I can find the tags in mediawiki?
[18:21:43] 	(which php-file do I have to look at?)
[18:22:04] 	I'm trying to include another math-editor since days!
[18:22:04] 	Klemmi: what tags are you talking about?
[18:22:13] 	Raymond_: huh?
[18:22:24] 	f.e. [[text]]
[18:22:32] 	alphascorpii: sorry, I mean AphelionZ 
[18:22:33] 	I want to create a new tag
[18:22:40] 	Klemmi: you can write your own new parser if you want to
[18:22:42] 	called 
[18:22:47] 	yes
[18:22:54] 	jup a new extension would do the trick
[18:22:55] 	I found http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Developer's_Handbook/Adding_new_tags
[18:23:04] 	but the problem I have
[18:23:04] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extending_wiki_markup is good ;)
[18:23:07] 	Won't wfTimestamp( TS_UNIX, $wgUser->mRegistration) return the unix stamp?
[18:23:22] 	I can not get the text I write between the tag
[18:23:38] 	mRegistration is already TS_MW
[18:24:01] 	@Jack this link looks nice
[18:24:04] 	thx
[18:24:10] 	TimLaqua, Raymond_ i'll try that stuff... let me see
[18:25:05] 	is eia al in tajp�e?
[18:25:31] 	@ Simon
[18:25:38] 	if I look at this site:
[18:25:39] 	http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Developer's_Handbook/Adding_new_tags
[18:25:56] 	is the $content the variable containing the text?
[18:26:38] 	I thought so so, but I did a test and saw, that I'm wrong
[18:27:05] 	(but I'm bad at progging php!
[18:31:45] 	Klemmi, ignore that example
[18:32:00] 	read the one on mediawiki.org thats the much better one :)
[18:32:08] 	what does {{ }} do?
[18:32:21] 	Also, go to the extensions directory on mediawiki.org and look at some of them
[18:32:37] 	feltipen: thats for including templates among other things
[18:32:57] 	is that the only way to do it in php
[18:33:42] 	feltipen: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Variables    and    http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates
[18:33:52] 	read those, they explain pretty much everything you need ot know about these
[18:34:23] 	feltipen: i thought you talk about mediawiki... PHP is something entirely different :)
[18:35:04] 	03(mod) Problem with wikilinks in template Parameter - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10757  (10mr.heat)
[18:39:11] 	ok, thanks, Simon!
[18:39:22] 	Klemmi: np
[18:41:34] 	03(mod) Including a Special Page adds a blank line - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10781  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[18:45:37] 	am I allowed to ask, where you are from? (me Germany) (@simon)
[18:49:15] 	TimLaqua, Raymond_ that worked guys, thanks - wfTimestamp( TS_UNIX, $wgUser->mRegistration)
[18:49:42] 	\o/
[18:49:49] 	hahaha
[18:50:24] 	Klemmi: Switzerland, but i live in Canada :)
[18:50:54] 	oh, cool!
[18:56:11] 	not really its rather hot now :) Your assesment is more accurate during winter but then its more "freezing" than just cool :)
[19:01:08] 	03rotem * r24546 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Toggles in RTL preferences indented to the right, hidden in IE in some cases.
[19:04:46] 	hehe, here ists cold too (we had ice in summer in germany...(Bodenfrost))
[19:14:12] 	sry, but i'm too dense
[19:14:26] 	I did it like on the link, which simon posted
[19:14:37] 	but the $input has now text
[19:14:52] 	the -tags I use disapperared
[19:15:19] 	so its looking like working, but I can not use the text between the  and 
[19:15:37] 	this wiki stuff is crazy - noob here
[19:16:24] 	yeah, I'm
[19:16:32] 	Can someone please tell me where I can find a reference that explains the reference on mediawiki.org? I simply want to start with changing the navigation menu items
[19:18:25] 	Input between the  and  tags, or null if the tag is "closed", i.e. 
[19:18:30] 	lol
[19:18:37] 	thats not workin (at me)
[19:19:40] 	is there a simpler intro to configuring a wiki than the mediawiki site?
[19:21:57] 	bemson: To change the navigation menu, edit the wiki page "MediaWiki:Sidebar",
[19:22:17] 	I'll try
[19:22:41] 	I just get a page...
[19:22:49] 	See also < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Sidebar >
[19:22:51] 	I'm writing a mediawiki extension - i've used setHook to attach a function to a tag, can I make mediawiki parse the content of that tag?
[19:22:55] 	ok
[19:23:19] 	lol
[19:23:26] 	i've got the same problem
[19:23:34] 	the $input is empty...
[19:24:27] 	(@ eAi)
[19:24:53] 	hm
[19:24:57] 	Anyone know why GD turns PNG Transparency black when MediaWiki makes thumbnails?
[19:25:12] 	@eAi did you use that: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extending_wiki_markup  ???
[19:26:21] 	essentially, yes
[19:26:25] 	I copied an existing extension
[19:26:35] 	the ?
[19:26:53] 	no
[19:27:08] 	a syntax highlighter (CodeSyntaxHighlight)
[19:27:12] 	I know that works :)
[19:27:53] 	but you can't get that content into a variable?
[19:28:43] 	one sec, just testing it
[19:28:51] 	yes
[19:29:04] 	and...? does it work?
[19:33:20] 	anyhow I can't get the content if I use sethook. Are there other solutions?
[19:36:40] 	03(NEW) Notice: Undefined offset: 1 in SpecialVersion. php on line 257 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10782 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (mediawiki)
[19:39:24] 	Klemmi: it works for me
[19:39:37] 	what did you do?
[19:39:45] 	what the example says essentially
[19:39:51] 	I'm using MediaWiki 1.6 if that makes a difference
[19:40:32] 	and your $input gets the content?
[19:40:46] 	yes
[19:40:53] 	
[[Stuff]]
[19:40:55] 	e.g.
[19:41:03] 	and $input = [[Stuff]]
[19:41:14] 	(but I want to be able to parse that)
[19:41:20] 	yes
[19:41:39] 	but first I have to get the content, befor i begin parsing
[19:41:49] 	well it worked fine here
[19:42:17] 	and you used mainly the 1st example?
[19:42:46] 	http://pastebin.ca/643408
[19:42:53] 	i'm writing a special page which acts like Special:Random, but only returns pages in the specified Category - I'm trying to figure out what to name the special page
[19:43:07] 	right now I'm stuck between CategoryRandom and RandomPageInCategory
[19:43:18] 	former is shorter
[19:43:32] 	thx
[19:43:37] 	I'll try it
[19:43:52] 	jimbojw: what about Special:Random/CategoryName
[19:44:11] 	not sure if MediaWiki will allow you to do that easily
[19:44:11] 	this isn't for the core - it's a new Special page extension
[19:44:43] 	the Special:Random/Whatever nomenclature is already reserved for Namespaces - for example Special:Random/Help
[19:44:48] 	RandomInCategory might do
[19:45:11] 	yeah - that sounds fine too
[19:45:18] 	alirhgt
[19:46:06] 	so does anyone know if you can ask mediawiki to parse a string?
[19:46:45] 	what do you mean "parse a string"?
[19:46:59] 	well, in that example:  [[Stuff]]
[19:47:09] 	can I get it to parse [[Stuff]]  into 	yes
[19:47:22] 	I thought so :)
[19:47:23] 	what version of MW are you using?
[19:47:28] 	1.6 :|
[19:47:33] 	ugh
[19:47:34] 	can't upgrade currently
[19:47:36] 	try to use strings
[19:47:49] 	stuck on php 4 for now
[19:47:51] 	make a new variable
[19:48:05] 	i believe in 1.6 you can do $wgOut->parse( 'string' );
[19:48:14] 	and I'm beginning to think I'm silly!
[19:48:29] 	I dont get the output of $source
[19:49:15] 	works jimnojw, thanks :)
[19:49:30] 	Klemmi, tried an existing extension?
[19:50:14] 	eAi: np
[19:51:06] 	I think, it is my output!
[19:51:06] 	@eAi thank you realy very much!
[19:51:14] 	I think, I'll get it...
[19:58:25] 	I'm using the extension "CreateArticle", which creates an input box that creates articles with the inserted text. It has a parameter "prefix=" which allows me to make a subpage if the value is set to "Article/". However, i want the value to be a variable, because i'm putting the input box in a template.
[20:00:05] 	so when an article is made with the template that includes the input box, and a user creates an article with the input box, i want the variable to identify the title of the page it's in, and place that in the value with the "/" in order to make a subpage for that particular page
[20:00:15] 	is that doable?
[20:02:20] 	so in other words, is there an argument that i could use in the editing box that will enter the current page's title? 
[20:05:14] 	{{PAGENAME}}  ?
[20:06:08] 	03(mod) wikibits.js: scrollEditBox overwrites onsubmit, should use hookEvent method - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9437  (10mediawiki)
[20:06:28] 	i think i just answered my own question
[20:06:57] *feltipen 	feels stupid and smart simultaneously
[20:23:18] 	hi i'm looking for the approval link for this page -> http://www.terrapedia.org/Testudinidae
[20:23:23] 	cant find it
[20:24:36] 	DarsVaeda: "approval link" ?
[20:24:59] 	yep to approve a page edit
[20:25:05] 	that red exclamation mark
[20:25:28] 	DarsVaeda: i think that only applies to anonymous edits
[20:25:47] 	thats what i mean
[20:25:58] 	hm?
[20:26:29] 	you can approve those edits
[20:26:34] 	the last edit is by you, so there's nothing to patroll...
[20:26:55] 	afaik patrolling only applies to the *last* edit.
[20:26:57] 	but the first edit isnt
[20:27:01] 	nope
[20:27:04] 	for every edit
[20:27:10] 	nope?
[20:27:26] 	well, do you see the marks on Special:Recentchanges?
[20:27:26] 	i could approve all other anonymous edits
[20:27:32] 	yes
[20:27:51] 	normally you click on ahh previous or what its in english
[20:28:04] 	then you see "approve edit" or so
[20:28:16] 	for the first page its on the bottom
[20:28:49] 	Hello there, anyone already tried to install mediawiki in sourceforge?
[20:29:10] 	I had good installation, but the sessions are always lost when I login
[20:29:13] 	Any idea?
[20:32:11] 	melunko: well known problem. google for "mediawiki on sourceforge" or some such.
[20:32:28] 	melunko: the problem is that sourcefore's web cluster setup sucks.
[20:33:09] 	Duesentrieb, thanks, I tried to google a lot, but no success yet, I will try your tip
[20:34:17] 	grml
[20:34:20] 	I dont get it
[20:34:33] 	my $source is empty...
[20:34:42] 	melunko: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Sourceforge.net
[20:35:13] 	but he make the tags disappear, that means, he does see the tags
[20:35:40] 	(sry, bad english)
[20:36:34] 	Duesentrieb, thanks.. bye
[20:39:25] 	I did everything like writen down here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extending_wiki_markup
[20:39:32] 	but I dont get the input
[20:39:39] 	the $input is empty
[20:40:12] 	but the tags are regoniced because the  disappear
[20:40:13] 	Klemmi: well, what does the wikitext look like when you use your tag?
[20:40:17] 	where can I find the most recent version of MediaWiki (alpha) on SVN?
[20:40:20] 	perhaps the input *is* empty?
[20:40:29] 	TimLaqua: in trunk
[20:40:48] 	trunk just looks like a pile of garbage
[20:40:54] 	but shouldn't the input be the content between the tags
[20:40:55] 	?
[20:41:03] 	TimLaqua: trunk/phase3
[20:41:09] 	TimLaqua: http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/
[20:41:17] 	that :)
[20:41:18] 	there.  ty.  Why phase3?
[20:41:27] 	'cause we had phase 1 and phase 2 :P
[20:41:35] 	Klemmi: it should. again, what does the wiki text look like, exactly?
[20:41:57] 	hmm.  I wanted to start working on some bugfixes and this SVN voodoo is pretty crazy.
[20:42:00] 	you mean what I see in the wiki?
[20:42:14] 	yes. what you *wrote* in the wiki
[20:42:48] 	I wrote text and I see text
[20:42:49] 	TimLaqua: *shrugs* that's probably to discourage new potential developers
[20:42:53] 	:)
[20:42:55] 	TimLaqua: hm? check it out, modify, make diff, submit.
[20:43:04] 	update every now and then
[20:43:07] 	pretty simple
[20:43:20] 	k.  I emailed brion earlier about an account.
[20:43:46] 	I was just working on getting PNG-24 images to resize and maintain alpha transparency
[20:43:52] 	TimLaqua: well, usually you start by making patches (aka diffs) and submitting them
[20:44:12] 	when people get annoyid with reviewing your stuff, they'll give you an account.
[20:44:17] 	ok, so I've got a modified file now, Bitmap.php.  how do I get the Diff?
[20:44:37] 	svn diff Bitmap.php > bitmapstuff.patch
[20:45:12] 	you can also use svn diff to make diffs for multiple files, or entire directories
[20:45:24] 	so I need the SVN client on my local machine?
[20:45:25] 	so, I see that what is between the tag
[20:45:34] 	TimLaqua: that'S wher eclients usually are.
[20:45:42] 	TimLaqua: if you want to use svn, you need a client.
[20:45:57] 	ok, I got Tortise
[20:46:14] 	TimLaqua: Tortoise sure has a diff and probably also a "make path" option
[20:46:16] 	TimLaqua: Windows? :o
[20:46:23] 	*make patch
[20:46:31] 	<--MCP tried and true.  ;-)
[20:46:44] 	k, I'll go poke around
[20:46:53] 	tortoise drove me crazy, i ditched it very soon.
[20:47:08] 	what's a better client?
[20:47:54] 	svn
[20:47:59] 	for the command line.
[20:48:04] 	k.
[20:48:24] 	Duesentrieb: there's one for the Windows command line?
[20:48:48] 	sure
[20:48:56] 	"why not"  lol
[20:49:47] 	didn't know, used tortoise before switching to linux >.<
[20:50:45] 	well, if tortise should give me a patch or whatever...
[20:51:01] 	brb, off to break stuff.
[21:17:31] 	03(mod) Problem with wikilinks in template Parameter - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10757  (10thomas.dalton)
[21:22:05] 	Hi!
[21:22:28] 	Is the word 'sysop' special?  I'm using the AD/LDAP plugin and I want people with "wiki admins
[21:22:41] 	"  to get "sysop" privs
[21:27:13] 	is it possible not just to show html-code, to make the code worked
[21:27:30] 	so, let the wiki interpret the code
[21:27:44] 	(I hope, you understand my (bad) English)
[21:31:23] 	Creating tables... using MySQL 4 table defs...Query "CREATE TABLE `job` ( job_id int(9) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment, job_cmd varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', job_namespace int NOT NULL, job_title varchar(255) binary NOT NULL, job_params blob NOT NULL default '', PRIMARY KEY job_id (job_id), KEY (job_cmd, job_namespace, job_title) ) TYPE=InnoDB " failed with error code "Specified key was too long; max key length is 1024 bytes (localhost)".
[21:31:27] 	eek?
[21:31:32] 	i got it yyaya
[21:33:01] 	using 1.6 due to PHP4
[21:38:15] 	TimLaqua: you around?
[21:42:42] 	hi there
[21:43:26] 	how can I invert colors ? I would like to have a black background :)
[21:44:08] 	mediawiki-1.9.3
[21:44:13] 	debian sid
[21:44:38] 	change the information in the current style
[21:46:13] 	sputnick, something like http://ffproject.net/forumwiki/index.php/User_talk:Renmiri ?
[21:50:55] 	absolutely perl_splut but with  green font :)
[21:51:08] 	yeah, that is all controlled by the skin
[21:51:43] 	where can I edit this ?
[21:51:52] 	LocalSettings.php ?
[21:52:00] 	http://jnana.wikinerds.org/index.php/how_to_create_your_own_MediaWiki_skin
[21:52:46] 	are there any examples for documenting web service apis with media wiki?
[21:53:25] 	Talking about skins, where do I put "body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display:none; }" to have it hide the main page title for all skins?
[21:53:50] 	hello,
[21:54:29] 	is it possible to transform sth. like this into the "Wiki-language"
[21:54:30] 	

[21:54:51] 	or make the wiki not just showing the cod
[21:54:58] 	but showing the result
[21:55:05] 	code
[21:55:06] 	?
[21:55:25] 	so, I want to see the image
[21:56:57] 	03(mod) Automatic image watermarking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9616  +comment (10cohesion)
[21:57:48] 	Sandokan: skins are different,  h1.firstHeading is not everywhere, so you have to research a little
[21:58:05] 	but you can put it into Common.css to work for most skins
[21:58:41] 	Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[22:00:18] 	It doesn't seem to work for MonoBook.
[22:00:49] 	it should work
[22:01:03] 	skins/common/common.css yes?
[22:01:57] 	no
[22:02:05] 	you seem to have an old Mediawiki
[22:02:28] 	just go to your page where you try to hide heading
[22:02:34] 	Nah, I overwrote it with 1.10, but old files tend to stick around.
[22:02:52] 	Ok and then?
[22:03:10] 	do "view source" and check for the line body  class="... page-Main_page"
[22:03:35] 	if there is no class then you can't use this CSS rule; if it's not Main_Page simply fix the rule
[22:04:24] 	Oh right yes, my bad. Forgot to change the name.
[22:04:25] 	Let's see.
[22:04:52] 	There's a class though.
[22:05:05] 	"mediawiki ns-0 ltr page-Fenix_Wiki"
[22:05:36] 	ok, so use  body.page-Fenix_Wiki h1.firstHeading { display:none }
[22:05:58] 	Yeah.
[22:06:02] 	And put that where?
[22:06:47] 	Mediawiki:Common.css or Mediawiki:Monobook.css, it's up to you, most people use monobook skin anyway
[22:07:21] 	hi
[22:07:42] 	how can I make the wiki not just show html-code
[22:08:02] 	It should use the html-code, translate it and show the result
[22:08:10] 	Shizzam!
[22:08:14] 	the code is result of a math-editor
[22:08:14] 	It works, thanks. :)
[22:08:51] 	Is there a list of pages in the MediaWiki namespace somewhere? I've got no clue what power it harbours.
[22:09:14] 	Special:Allpages
[22:09:29] 	I've tried looking for it on the MediaWiki site, but the documentation seems to be in progress.
[22:09:32] 	Ok let's see.
[22:09:44] 	"always I/P"  ;-)
[22:10:15] 	TimLaqua: that one only gives existing MediaWiki pages it seems.
[22:10:25] 	I/P?
[22:10:43] 	in progress
[22:10:50] 	Ah yes.
[22:10:51] 	knows anyone help?
[22:10:52] 	oh, I see what you're saying
[22:10:59] 	plese!
[22:11:03] 	please!
[22:11:26] 	Sandokan, you wanna know what super magical MediaWiki: namespace pages make cool stuff happen
[22:12:39] 	I totally just made my first patch.  cool.
[22:12:57] 	Yes, but I don't know the pages.
[22:13:04] 	It's like Myst. I need the pages.
[22:13:37] 	I mean, I can't visit the pages if I don't know they exist.
[22:13:43] 	well...
[22:13:47] 	those pages are dynamic
[22:13:53] 	look at Special:Allmessages
[22:14:18] 	Klemmi: if you trust the users, you can use $wgRawHtml = true.
[22:14:49] 	trust users?!?!
[22:14:57] 	haha
[22:15:21] 	Ok so I'm at that Allmessages page, what can I learn from this page?
[22:15:51] 	Oh right.
[22:15:54] 	Hey Tim
[22:15:54] 	well, what did you edit?
[22:16:02] 	MediaWiki:Common.css?
[22:16:08] 	scroll down to Common.css
[22:16:09] 	Yeah it's green now.
[22:16:16] 	You answered to soemting i wrote on the google analyitics links intergration extension
[22:16:28] 	I did?
[22:16:37] 	Was I incorrect?  ;-)
[22:16:41] 	Thanks for the headsup.
[22:17:05] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Google_Analytics_Links
[22:17:37] 	ah
[22:17:48] 	I was wondering if you had any insight as to how to accomplis this goal there i am tlaking about. I mean without going and hacking the actual code for the html generation of external urls in the wiki parsers
[22:17:50] 	yeah, that could pry be done.
[22:17:52] 	is it acceptable to just put "@licence GNU General Public Licence 2.0" in a comment at the top of a file and have it count?
[22:18:10] 	jimbojw, sounds good to me.
[22:18:33] 	that's done in some of the extensions in svn.wikimedia.org - I was just curious
[22:18:50] 	I never tag w/ a license
[22:18:57] 	I suppose I pry should.
[22:19:22] 	SimonMoon, 1sec, lemme go hunt down where it translates those
[22:19:32] 	perl_splut: I do the job for the skin, but having the following : "Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class myblack in /PATH/mediawiki-1.9.3/skins/myblack.php on line 40"
[22:19:35] 	:/
[22:19:52] 	TimLaqua: thanks, appriciate it :) thought there might be a hook to exploit this :)
[22:20:08] 	doubt it.  unless you wanna regex the bejebbers out of it.
[22:20:56] 	svn gives me a headache
[22:25:18] 	thx
[22:25:22] 	I read the manual
[22:25:46] 	but I cant use $wgRawHtml = true.
[22:25:57] 	because everyone should use it
[22:26:04] 	its a math-editor
[22:26:21] 	not sure, sputnick.  
[22:26:22] 	this math-editor produces the html.code
[22:29:45] 	is someone have a CSS in black screen ?
[22:29:51] 	perl_splut: ?
[22:30:22] 	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_user_styles#Black_Background_w.2F_banner.2C_similar_to_game_forums
[22:31:06] 	can I say, that in the procedure, where the parser of the math-editor is run, a user is used, which is just used by the math-editor.
[22:31:24] 	I could declare this user as a user who is allowed to use html
[22:31:36] 	do you think, that is possible
[22:31:48] 	(whithout editing the whole wiki)
[22:33:59] 	Klemmi: it doesn't work that way. if you have html code in a page, and a normal user wants to edit the page, he could no longer save it
[22:34:05] 	because he is not allowed to use html
[22:34:25] 	why
[22:34:32] 	why?
[22:34:33] 	it looks like this
[22:34:45] 	text
[22:34:58] 	thats, what the user is able to see
[22:35:17] 	then the php-scripts are running and make the html-code
[22:35:22] 	that being html tags, or extension tags?
[22:35:23] 	and print this code
[22:35:25] 	SimonMoon, I don't see a real straightforward way of doing it
[22:35:28] 	with this user...
[22:35:38] 	"print" where?
[22:35:44] 	that are extension-tags
[22:35:50] 	which are already ready
[22:35:58] 	SimonMoon, someone else might have ideas
[22:36:00] 	so... where does the user come into play?#
[22:36:07] 	extension tags output html
[22:36:09] 	that's it.
[22:36:09] 	ok,
[22:36:15] 	the user makes the site
[22:36:21] 	or edites a site
[22:36:28] 	yes
[22:36:39] 	the extension-tags output is html
[22:36:48] 	exactly sth like this: http://screenshots.winfuture.de/1186071219.jpg
[22:36:53] 	oh, no
[22:36:53] 	sry
[22:37:07] 	sth like this:
[22:37:08] 	
 
[22:37:31] 	so?
[22:37:44] 	TimLaqua: thanks for looking :) you know where it does the extrnal url link generation inthe code though? maybe i can request a hook in tehre :)
[22:37:48] 	this will be created, if the user writes \fedon\mixona^2+b^2=c^2 \fedoff
[22:38:07] 	and this output should not be shown as code
[22:38:08] 	Klemmi: yea. that's how extension tagswork. now, what's all that talk about a special user? or allowing html?
[22:38:27] 	
 
[22:38:33] 	thanks perl_splut, this one : PainColors  is cool :)
[22:38:34] 	is the output of the tag
[22:38:40] 	I just see that in the Wiki
[22:38:41] 	Klemmi: "should ne be shown as code"? ah, i know what's happening, i think.
[22:38:54] 	yes
[22:39:08] 	exactly
[22:39:27] 	(sry, I'm bad at saying, what I want, because of my bad english)
[22:39:31] 	Klemmi: the html that is returned by the extension is further processed on the block level. to avoid that, it must not contain any blank lines, and it must contain no line that starts with blanks.
[22:40:04] 	Klemmi: this has nothing to do with users, or allowing html. it's simply the stupid parser applying block-level processing to generated html (which it really shouldn't). 
[22:40:14] 	This has been on bugzilla forever, i guess
[22:40:37] 	oh, give me a minute to translate :)
[22:41:55] 	hi!
[22:42:02] 	so, the 
 is the mistake?
[22:42:08] 	(at the beginning)
[22:42:40] 	i've got an wikibooks dump here and i'd like to import it to a postgreql database. is another version than 1.6.x worth trying?
[22:42:55] 	and, can i use mwdumper for doing this?
[22:43:23] 	Klemmi: no. space characters, or blank lines are evil. 
 should be ok.
[22:43:28] 	Klemmi: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8997
[22:43:36] 	there it is, in all its glory.
[22:46:11] 	Hub441: you can use mwdumper (though i'm not sure how up to date its PG support is). 1.6 is ooold, so use a newer version, if you can (1.10.1, or wait a few days/weeks for 1.11)
[22:47:52] 	Duesentrieb: well the wikimedia-pages say 1.6.x is recomended, and mwdumper doesn't support newer DB-schemas than 1.6
[22:48:29] 	(thats why i asked)
[22:48:48] 	Hub441: it doesn't? sure? interresting. anyway... "1.6.x is recomended"? where does it say that?
[22:49:14] 	Duesentrieb: well i'ts about 3month ago that i've read that but i'll try to find it again
[22:49:17] 	Hub441: anyway, you can always build a 1.6 db with mwdumper, and *than* install the new wiki, which would then convert the db schema :)
[22:49:41] 	Hub441: even 3 months ago, 1.9 would have been latest stable.
[22:49:53] 	1.6 is only recommended if you can't use php5 for some reason
[22:50:35] 	Duesentrieb: ok, no php4 round here ;)
[22:51:11] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MWDumper#Output_formats : "--format=sql:1.5 SQL statements formatted for bulk import in MediaWiki 1.5's schema"
[22:51:49] 	ok so if mediawiki does the updating for me, i'll give it a try
[22:52:12] 	does it also rebuild all needed math->tex ?
[22:53:03] 	otherwise opening pages with a lot of math on it would take quite a while till all png's have been created
[22:54:24] 	03(NEW) Resizing PNG-24 images causes all alpha channel transparency to be lost and transparent pixels to be turned black - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10783 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (t.laqua)
[22:55:40] 	03(mod)  Resizing PNG-24 images causes all alpha channel transparency to be lost and transparent pixels to be turned black - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10783  (10t.laqua)
[23:00:42] 	sorry, Duesentrieb: I tryed my very best
[23:00:54] 	perl_splut :  I take a lot of fun with main.css, html colors & vim :)
[23:00:57] 	great !
[23:01:13] 	I made the changes "Parser patch to resolve whitespace mangling of extension output."
[23:01:21] 	but it had no effect
[23:02:35] 	03(NEW) Feature request: visible or metadata watermarking of hotlinked files - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10784 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (seahen123)
[23:03:56] 	Duesentrieb: hmm mediawiki 1.6.7 doesn't support postgresql, d'oh!
[23:08:47] 	ich werde hier irgendwie daraus nicht schlau:
[23:08:48] 	http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8997
[23:09:58] 	ich werde hier irgendwie daraus nicht schlau:
[23:09:58] 	sorry, for speaking german!
[23:10:17] 	that means sth. like I dont get it
[23:13:57] 	well, I'll go to bed. Its 1:15am here in germany!
[23:13:57] 	thnk you for helping me!
[23:14:06] 	good night!
[23:19:11] 	with my css, I have the button [modify] at the left of items like this : http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mediawikiblackdq4.png   what can I edit to replace at original monobook place ? 
[23:28:10] 	hello channel. I created a new logo for my wiki, checked the manual, opened up LocalSettings.php looking for the $wgLogo setting to change, and...it's not there. 
[23:29:13] 	Add it. :)
[23:29:38] 	is there a particular place to add it? I put it near the top, and it killed my wiki. 
[23:30:49] 	Did you put it above a line like "	theremin: try this : cd PATH_WIKI && grep -R \$wgLogo .
[23:32:41] 	I just tried putting it below: $wgPasswordSender
[23:33:06] 	Parse error:  syntax error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in /home/.nerf/mcdyke/lakecountyfilmfest.com/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 58
[23:33:29] 	sputnick: where am I putting that? 
[23:33:42] 	cd PATH_WIKI 
[23:33:53] 	& after :
[23:33:59] 	grep -R \$wgLogo .
[23:34:49] 	did you find something?
[23:35:47] 	where am I putting that? anywhere?
[23:43:55] 	 /o\
[23:44:19] 	_o_
[23:44:26] 	_o/
[23:44:35] 	\o_
[23:44:45] 	\o/
[23:45:36] 	\_o<
[23:45:49] 	theremin: paste your LocalSettings.php to http://mediawiki.pastey.net (after adding $wgLogo), and I'll see if I can find the error. :)
[23:47:11] 	weird...now it says line 58
[23:51:34] 	03(NEW) Update for Thai language (th) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10785 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (manop)
[23:52:51] 	http://mediawiki.pastey.net/71730