[00:07:24] $wgFileExtensions[] = 'svg'; [00:07:35] You'll probably want to set up $wgSVGRenderer et al. [00:08:45] frank zappa is my guru [00:10:13] *sigh* i wish nickserv had a ghosting option on freenode [00:10:24] *inkhorn kicks feltipen in the face [00:10:39] er, /msg nickserv ghost [00:10:53] i've been trying with /nickserv all along [00:11:14] thx rob [00:11:27] ./nickserv works for ident'ing but not for ghosting, heh [00:21:27] 03rotem * r24638 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.i18n.php: Typo. [00:24:46] Could someone link me to a way to give a user admin priveledges by directly manipulating the database. [00:25:31] INSERT INTO user_groups ( ug_user, ug_group ) VALUES ( x, "sysop" ); [00:25:40] Where X is the corresponding `user`.`user_id` [00:25:58] Okay, thanks [00:43:19] OK, I'm making a template called "deletion" [00:43:39] ''This article may be '''subject to deletion'''. You can discuss this on the article's talk page.'' [00:43:55] I want the words "talk page" to be a link to the article's talk page. [00:44:21] I'm not sure how to do this [00:44:21] [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|talk page]] ? [00:44:39] I'll try it. [00:45:10] It replaces it with Template:TALKPAGENAME [00:47:22] What version? [00:47:57] The first one. [00:48:01] The one that is on php4. [00:48:09] My webhost webmaster refuses to do php5. [00:48:14] Which is what version of MediaWiki? [00:48:37] 1.6.10 [00:49:44] Right, well, 1.6.x didn't have TALKPAGENAME. [00:49:52] How do I get the talk page name? [00:50:52] Is this template only ever going to be used in the main namespace? You might try [[Talk:{{PAGENAME}}|talk page]] [00:51:36] *robchurch notes that TALKPAGENAME was introduced in 1.7, along with a whole raft of page variables [00:51:52] That woked [00:51:55] *worked [00:54:55] whats the best way to prevent anyone except admins creating accounts and prevent non-logged in users from seeing pages? [01:02:08] eAi: http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights [01:02:27] thanks, I'll read [01:02:32] Welcome. [01:06:10] is a 90m php memory_limit decent to run a wiki farm of several hundred wikis [01:09:17] 03ivanlanin * r24639 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesId.php: Indonesian (id) localisation updates. [01:17:03] I've been using MediaWiki 1.5 up to today, and an extension I wrote used $wgOut->parse(....) [01:17:17] this doesn't seem to work in the latest build [01:17:21] what should I replace it with? [01:20:32] 03rotem * r24640 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialPreferences.php): Fixed a display problem in the E-mail part of the preferences page when the E-mail is not confirmed: the notice about it was in the same line as a preference. [01:22:00] I need to be able to call the parse function recursively... [01:27:47] 03jeluf * r24641 10/trunk/extensions/geoserver/geoserver.psql: set default value [01:46:46] where does the generated css come from and why does it redefine the red link colour to #CC2200 ? [01:47:52] in monobook main it is set to #ba0000 but both wiktionary and wikipedia have it redefined in the generated css - but i cannot find this in the source [02:38:18] any suggestions for a bridge between joomla and wiki? [02:38:48] mambowiki "works" but is horrible, i need centralized user management, but would like the wiki to be able to stand alone ^-^ [02:59:04] 03(mod) {{BASEPAGENAME}} does not return topmost page name - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6067 +comment (10fdcn64) [03:06:34] <_Danny_B_> hello, tim [03:06:54] hi [03:08:24] <_Danny_B_> TimStarling: is it possible that site_stats table is outdated? i'm running two queries - one to get # of articles from site_stats, one to get # of pages in ns 0 and not redirect [03:08:40] <_Danny_B_> and i get first result higher than second [03:08:56] <_Danny_B_> which should be in fact vice versa [03:09:01] yes it's possible [03:09:12] well, not outdated, just wrong [03:10:22] not outdated, just wrong [03:10:36] <_Danny_B_> TimStarling: what is the algorithm to say page is article? ns 0 AND not redir AND not dead end AND ?? (something about size?) [03:11:09] no, just those three [03:11:14] nothing about size [03:11:51] <_Danny_B_> ok. so i'd rather run the exact query than use page_stats [03:12:05] you mean site_stats [03:12:14] <_Danny_B_> yes, typo [03:12:24] <_Danny_B_> cswikisource_p btw is what i'm talking about right now in case you'd like to take a look [03:12:48] we'd all rather have exact data [03:13:04] the problem is that it takes time to calculate [03:13:13] <_Danny_B_> i can imagine [03:13:17] and you're not the only person on the toolserver [03:13:52] <_Danny_B_> it's not meant to run often [03:14:11] <_Danny_B_> for often queries i can use the stats table [03:14:32] <_Danny_B_> but time to time i'd like to have the correct amount for control [03:16:04] http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V5e/warning/Data/TEDPTA/TEDptaweb_E.htm [03:16:05] fun [03:16:47] it looks more impressive on the satellite though: http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V5/observe/satellite/Data/sup/sup-2007-08-07-10.jpg [03:17:58] Anyone here have experience messing with the Semantic Mediawiki thing? [03:21:32] <_Danny_B_> wow, i just ran the query and got nonredirs in ns 0 = 2469; deadends = 57; (-> articles should be 2412) and articles from site_stats = 2471, that looks pretty much wrong :-/ [03:22:11] right order of magnitude, not too bad [03:24:33] what wiki is this? [03:24:40] <_Danny_B_> cswikisource [03:24:44] <_Danny_B_> would you say this is rare case or the same disproportion will be on all wikis? [03:25:22] it would depend on the history of the wiki [03:25:36] activity when various bugs were present, etc. [03:27:15] <_Danny_B_> hmm, also interesting, that the query copied from svn returned 57 deadends and special page returns 2 [03:27:41] maybe some of your "deadends" don't exist [03:27:49] what's the query? [03:28:04] <_Danny_B_> i copied from here: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialDeadendpages.php?view=markup [03:33:22] 03yurik * r24642 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryImageInfo.php: API: Now renders image size values as integers in json. [03:36:09] probably invalid titles actually [03:38:32] <_Danny_B_> definitely, i just see it - page_title is varchar(255) and most (and probably all) of the titles are longer [03:47:15] <_Danny_B_> it might be practical to close/stop each wiki for couple mins and run the maintenance scripts to remove as many bugs as possible and update all counted items [03:53:00] you wouldn't need to close anything [03:54:35] <_Danny_B_> that's better then. thought db must be locked to run maintenance [04:38:48] does anybody know why the red link colour is overridden by mediawiki since about forever? : $s .= "a.new { color: #CC2200; }\n" . "#quickbar a.new { color: CC2200; }\n"; [04:47:10] why do people set href="#" for javascript links? [04:47:16] it makes the browser scroll to the top [04:49:32] Because people don't think [04:49:39] And if the javascript returns false, it doesnt [05:02:46] does anybody know why the red link colour is overridden by mediawiki since about forever? : $s .= "a.new { color: #CC2200; }\n" . "#quickbar a.new { color: CC2200; }\n"; [05:20:47] 03(mod) Underscore is rejected by the incategory search parameter - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10822 (10kalan.001) [06:31:07] here's a wishlist item: an extension that lists all registered users and lets you see their contributions [06:32:33] 03raymond * r24643 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/Cite.php: Error messages should be shown in the user preferred language, not the site content language. [06:32:36] 4 columns: user | Articles created | Articles edited | Registration date [06:33:07] click on created or edited numbers for a user to see what exactly was done [06:49:28] welp, that's semi-possible already, im an idiot :) [06:50:50] hello friends.... I made an edit here... http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual_talk:%24wgSitename but it seems to just get sucked into the ether [06:51:16] Actually I mean here... (and I can see the comment now...) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:%24wgSitename [06:51:41] sorry about that... seems a cache issue [07:44:26] 03(NEW) Mongolian Wikipedia's {{SITENAME}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10825 15enhancement; highest; Wikimedia: Site requests; (chinneeb) [07:45:19] 03(mod) Mongolian Wikipedia's {{SITENAME}} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10825 highest->normal; +shell (10raimond.spekking) [07:57:58] 03(NEW) Links in Mongol Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10826 major; highest; Wikimedia: Language setup; (chinneeb) [08:01:09] hi, I'm trying to upgrade my MediaWiki ... I followed the instructions in the UPGRADE file. Now, I have to run the update.hp script but I get this error: [08:01:15] You don't have permission to access /upgrade_folder/wiki/maintenance/ on this server. [08:01:26] I don't have commandline access at my webserver [08:02:20] 03raymond * r24644 10/trunk/ (79 files in 3 dirs): [08:02:22] Moving InputBox specific messages to the new i18n file, they are unsued in MediaWiki core. [08:02:24] Normally they should be renamed to 'inputbox-xxx' but I don't know how many localizations this will break :-( [08:11:05] *NotAmused tickles Raymond_afk [08:11:13] and Duesentrieb [08:11:22] *Raymond_afk hides [08:11:36] afk my ass [08:17:35] 03raymond * r24645 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesMn.php): * (bug 10826) Added linktrail with cyrillic characters for Mongolian language [08:19:22] morsning [08:20:48] 03(FIXED) Add linktrail for Mongolian language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10826 major->15enhancement; highest->normal; summary; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [08:36:49] I readed Manual:Configuration settings, but I still can't work out how to set the search to default to all namesspaces... [08:37:15] (i.e. for a non-logged in user, I want searches to be for all namespaces by default). [08:40:56] <_wooz> lo [08:41:55] SpecialSearch.php and SpecialPreferences.php which contain namespace checkboxes... [08:42:40] 03(NEW) Make MediaWiki: Sharedupload point to Commons with lang setting of that wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10827 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (brianna.laugher) [08:43:00] so, there's no way to upgrade the mediawiki if you don't have commandline access? ^o) [08:43:14] jochus: not that I know of [08:43:26] faceface: thnx :-) [08:50:51] 03proes * r24646 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/WikiDataAPI.php: Also check $wgDefaultClassMids in isClass() [08:52:59] 03(NEW) bad translation for a system message to french-speaking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10828 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (crochet.david) [08:53:26] hey [08:56:21] 03(NEW) Java interfering with Wikipedia pages but not other Wikimedia pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10829 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (brianna.laugher) [08:58:29] 03(NEW) Change name for Haitian Creole language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10830 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (le.korrigan) [09:17:24] 03vyznev * r24647 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES skins/common/wikibits.js): [09:17:26] Prefer textContent over innerText to allow hidden sort keys to work on Safari. [09:17:28] No apparent regressions on Firefox 2.0, Konqueror 3.5.5 or Opera 9.21; not [09:17:30] actually tested on Safari nor IE yet(!). [09:17:32] See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#sortable_wikitables_and_Safari [10:11:41] I read "Manual:Configuration settings", but I still can't work out how to set the default search to all namesspaces... [10:11:52] (i.e. for a non-logged in user, I want searches to be for all namespaces by default). [10:12:50] faceface: $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault isn't good? [10:13:08] faceface: there's no option for "all" though. you have to list each namespace you want to search [10:16:15] ty Duesentrieb, I don't know why I missed that on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings [10:33:50] Duesentrieb: how do I set 'biodatabase' and 'biodatabase talk' ? http://biodatabase.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=adfadsfasdf&go=Go [10:34:08] !faq | faceface [10:34:08] faceface : Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [10:35:01] chat-de-plafond: now what? [10:35:05] ask again? [10:35:09] is it possible to programm an extension to search uploaded files? or doesn't work that? [10:35:29] I think ... you can do that [10:36:48] hmm ok .. well I think not that I can do that but I'll ask a colleague ;) thx [10:37:05] or somebody from here want to programm such an extension [10:37:22] you mean like search in an uploaded document? [10:37:59] yes, so if I load a .doc dokument up I could search in this document [10:38:42] $wgWitename is "Biodatabase", does that mean that the meta namespace is "NS_BIODATABASE" ? [10:39:11] the symbol I mean [10:39:24] it aint listed here... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Namespaces [10:40:53] nither "NS_BIODATABASE" nor "NS_WIKIPEDIA" works [10:41:46] nor does "NS_META" ... is this really in the FAQ? [10:42:45] M4rX: not sure if leucene does that... but google will [10:43:19] realy? if I install the google extension it will work? [10:44:01] you need to get your site crawled by google, but you can request that [10:44:24] so.... where can I get a list of namespace symbols, and what number is the meta namespace? [10:44:27] hmm and in the uploaded documents too? .. I can't believe ;) [10:44:47] google will read .doc .pdf ... er... not sure what else .ps ... [10:45:30] and google will also read the content in this documents? [10:45:37] yes [10:45:56] and will inform the police if it reads a terrorist manifesto... [10:46:03] very nice.. I'll try .. [10:46:08] Ok thats cool^^ [10:46:13] ;-) [10:46:28] which google extension do you mean? [10:46:40] I don't use it personally [10:47:00] you need to use 'google webmaster tools' to request your site to be indexed in google [10:47:17] google custom search or google extension? .. [10:47:29] then you can search google directly via "site:http://my.site.com some term" [10:47:46] the extensions may hook up your 'search' box... search is messy! [10:48:19] well let's try .. thanks ;) [10:50:53] what are the symbols for ns 5 and 6? [10:51:29] I mean 4 and 5 [10:51:54] do namespace 4 and 5 have default symbols? [10:53:21] Is there any easy way of wiping all content from a wiki without removing the users? [10:54:12] ptlis: do you know python? [10:54:26] faceface, i'm afraid not. [10:54:32] I'm a PHP / Perl weenie [10:54:41] are you good at SQL? [10:54:45] Yeah [10:55:02] find which tables to "delete from" [10:55:12] I'm guessing I just manually nuke all the tables that aren't users & users_groups? [10:55:36] ptlis: that is my guess... I am no expert [10:55:54] faceface thanks for your help, maybe I can help you too .. but now I'm going to eat something ;) [10:56:11] M4rX: peace be upon you! [10:56:16] Thanks faceface, I was hoping not to have to do that (being unfamiliar with exactly how they all tie together. [10:56:49] ptlis: how many pages? [10:56:55] don't do it just yet... [10:57:25] We're talking somewhere in the hundreds. [10:57:52] I'm not that familiar with it - it's something that i've been dumped with and told to support >_> [10:58:23] bbl [10:58:26] I might just do a full backup and start tinkering. [11:09:51] 03(NEW) New restore this version link in page history for sysops - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10831 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (meno25bugzilla) [11:16:19] 03(NEW) Add link to user when viewing deleted edits in Special: Undelete - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10832 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (meno25bugzilla) [11:27:07] I think there is a problem for mysqli useres [11:29:02] it says "Could not find a suitable database driver!" [11:29:29] although I have mysqli installed [11:31:36] any one can help me? [11:33:57] Menasim1, enable it on php.ini [11:34:44] so I the old extension? [11:36:25] Platonides:so I enable the old extension? [11:43:18] when will developers be back to business ? [11:43:57] I hope soon... ;-) [11:50:40] *chat-de-plafond is in business [11:50:46] just busy doing a physics assignment [11:54:43] 03raymond * r24650 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/Names.php): [11:54:45] * (bug 4530) fix local name of Kurdish [11:54:47] * (bug 10830) fix local name of Haitian Creole [11:55:33] 03(FIXED) Change name for Haitian Creole language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10830 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [11:55:51] 03(FIXED) Use consistent name for Kurdish:=?UTF-8?Q?=20Kurd=C3=AE=20?=/ =?UTF-8?Q?=20=D9=83=D9=88=D8=B1=D8=AF=DB=8C?= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4530 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [11:59:02] 03raymond * r24651 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: * (bug 10828) typo in French [11:59:18] 03(FIXED) bad translation for a system message to french-speaking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10828 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [12:12:04] how is the status of API editing progress? [12:14:56] how do you link to a title within a page? [12:17:41] jeffz [[page#section]] ? [12:17:55] Platonides: yep, just found it... took me awhile to figure out what to search for. [12:18:00] Platonides: thank you. [12:18:12] :) [12:21:45] AzaTht, ask yurikny, he appears here sometimes [12:28:42] I was wondering how to move the searchbox in the sidebar all the way up, above any menu links and directly beneath the logo. Is this possible? [12:30:00] edit skins/monobook.php [12:30:24] Is there no way to do this in all skins at once? [12:31:32] you could, if all of then shared that code [12:31:56] but what's the reason of having different skins, if htey will show the same? [12:32:59] 03(mod) Remove MediaWiki namespace as an option in Special: Protectedpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10798 +comment (10le.korrigan) [12:33:11] That is a valid point, although moving the searchbox up is hardly all the difference between skins. [12:33:43] But I will copy the monobook skin and edit it to my liking. Thanks. [12:59:36] 04(REOPENED) Remove MediaWiki namespace as an option in Special: Protectedpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10798 +comment (10Platonides) [13:44:02] Hi all, has anyone seen Rob Church? [13:44:15] on irc? [13:44:18] yes [13:44:58] 03:52:32 UTC+3 last time [14:11:10] 03(NEW) Bogus diffs on de.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10833 normal; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; () [14:11:59] 03(mod) Bogus diffs on de.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10833 (10wiki.bugzilla) [14:15:03] hi all [14:16:16] does someone know a tagcloud extension, but one that does not count how many articles in a category but one that shows how many times an article has been read? [14:18:37] Duesentrieb? [14:22:40] 03(mod) $wgLoadBalancer has wrongType - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10796 (10yuriastrakhan) [14:25:28] 03(NEW) site_stats.ss_good_articles and site_stats. ss_total_pages not synchronized with the real count - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10834 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (wikipedia.danny.b) [15:08:58] 03mkroetzsch * r24652 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_NAry.php: Bug fix in RDF export [15:09:44] 03mkroetzsch * r24653 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Hooks.php: +profiling for parser [15:10:59] 03mkroetzsch * r24654 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (9 files in 6 dirs): Prevent unnecessary code inclusions (further updates required) [15:12:49] is there a way to set up an RSS feed for a range of IP addresses? [15:13:20] I want something like "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:192.26.10.192&action=history&feed=rss" but I want to give it like 134.231.0.0/16 [15:19:10] 03(mod) site_stats.ss_good_articles and site_stats. ss_total_pages not synchronized with the real count - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10834 (10wikipedia.danny.b) [15:23:17] 03(mod) Parser functions to obtain talk page, namespace, talk namespace, basename, etc. for named targets - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8249 (10N/A) [15:35:13] hi all! [15:35:53] In DefaultSetting, there is a vairable "wgSearchForwardUrl" [15:36:05] I can't figure out where its used anywhere, but I want that functionality [15:37:51] bensherman: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Extensions [15:38:33] Yes, I found that. [15:38:37] 03(mod) Including a Special Page adds a blank line - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10781 (10sergiogomez) [15:38:56] $wgSearchForwardUrl - Set this to a URL to forward search requests to some external location. [15:39:02] 03(mod) Bogus diffs on de.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10833 normal->major; +comment (10wiki.bugzilla) [15:39:04] There isn't anything that calls that. [15:39:28] How do I amke mediawiki use that parameter [15:39:54] bensherman: it's a extension. i would think that you have to install or activate it somehow. [15:40:21] I would think so too. [15:40:27] It is not, however documented anywhere. [15:40:33] And it is in the DefaultSettings file. [15:41:18] hm. ok. so you want to use it. just set it in your Localsettings.php in the mediawiki installation [15:43:08] I did that. [15:43:28] GAH [15:43:30] THERE IS A BUG [15:43:56] it isn't called SearchForward. [15:44:01] It is ForwardSearch [15:45:06] NOTE: From versions 1.4.8 to 1.4.15, this setting was incorrectly named $wgForwardSearchUrl in DefaultSettings.php. [15:45:15] I'm running 1.10 [15:45:48] does it work now? [15:45:58] no [15:46:04] that code is f'd [15:52:48] Is there a way to get a list of Recent Discussions, maybe through Specialpages: ? [15:53:01] Special:Recentchanges/Talk [15:53:36] Thx [15:53:47] I think that works, anyway [15:53:54] no [15:54:06] Rehven, use Special:Recentchanges?namespace=1 [15:54:52] Trying [15:56:27] OK that works Kalan. That's just a shortcut to using the Namespace dropdown in Recent Changes, right? [15:57:04] *now* it works! [15:57:26] yes, it means the same as RC's namespace filter dropdown generates [15:57:52] Trouble is, I have multiple Namespaces. Is there any way to do a list of all namespace Discussion changes? [16:02:26] 14(DUP) Bogus diffs on de.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10833 +comment (10EN.WP.ST47) [16:02:27] 03(mod) Diff misses certain changes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10511 +comment (10EN.WP.ST47) [16:06:18] 03(NEW) Call to inherited Methods of SpecialPage produces fatal error - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10835 04CRIT; high; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (jailing) [16:08:13] Hi, I was wondering if there's any ways to take some of the load off of a server running mediawiki. I've seen some of the "Reduction" related configuration settings, but most of them either seem to not make sense to me at this point, or they're settings that I don't think would affect general browsing or would still be needed. [16:08:50] move the db server onto a different box, use caching [16:09:06] Jouva: there are severla options for caching, and several options to share work between servers. [16:09:55] Jouva: it all depends... how much wardware do you have? with what specs? what's the bottleneck - ram/cpu? apache or database? [16:09:57] Hmmm. Server load balancing. I'll kinda look into it, but I'm not sure if we have that option available. [16:10:10] Seems to be RAM, or so we assume [16:10:16] Right now the system has 512 RAM [16:10:33] that'S pretty small for a server [16:10:42] very small if it also has the ymsql server [16:10:49] Yeah it's running mysql [16:10:58] move mysql to a different box [16:11:10] the config is simple, and it should hep a lot. [16:11:43] The ram is going to be upgraded soon, but I'm just not entirely sure if the RAM itsself will be the end all solution cause it can take a good 20 seconds to load [16:11:54] good ways to improve repsonse time (at the expense of RAM) would be using memcachd opbject caching, and a php bytecode cache [16:12:27] 03vyznev * r24655 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: fix crash when trying to edit a protected namespace [16:12:28] Is there any specific PHP modules that need to be loaded for bytecode cache? [16:12:35] Jouva: if you wiki has a lof of reads but relatively few edits, look into the filecache option [16:12:44] 03(mod) Support global (crosswiki) blocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707 (10tangotango) [16:12:53] Jouva: module? i don't think so. but i have never set this up. [16:13:04] is there a way to set up an RSS feed for a range of IP addresses? [16:13:07] I want something like "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:192.26.10.192&action=history&feed=rss" but I want to give it like 134.231.0.0/16 [16:13:16] Jouva: anyway, cache uses ram. if you are short on ram, don't use it [16:13:27] !repeat | evilmoo [16:13:27] evilmoo : Please do not repeat yourself too often, if little conversation has occurred since your last message then it is likely no one has an answer or someone who does hasn't looked in IRC yet. You stand a chance of annoying people if you repeat yourself. [16:13:28] it typically improves response time by >50% though [16:13:43] my bad [16:14:31] 03(mod) Support global (crosswiki) blocking - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707 normal->high; +schema-change (10vasilievvv) [16:14:42] Duesentrieb: It's hard to say if it does. It's a "small" wiki, but it's being managed and read by folks that are... well... they're rather goofy and thrive on "INTERNETS!" [16:15:03] So an article could end up being edited like several times just for the heck of it, or read and edited maybe twice [16:16:24] Jouva: one of the bytecode cache options is http://eaccelerator.net/ [16:16:40] Jouva: but i'd try filechache first, then moving the db server to a different box. [16:16:55] after that, try bytecode cache and memcached [16:17:13] after that, start thinking about load balancing between dbs, apache, and about a layer of revers proxies like squid. [16:17:48] Okie I'll discuss that with some folks [16:18:01] BRB though and I'll probably ask a few more questions [16:18:49] Jouva: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:File_cache [16:18:56] 03(NEW) Change the summary on creating of new section - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10836 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (wikipedia.danny.b) [16:22:04] Duesentrieb: When a page is edited, then the cache will be updated on the next view? [16:22:37] Or atleast the person seeing it will see the update right away? [16:25:33] hi all [16:26:10] with mediawiki, is it possible to set permissions about who can edit a page ? [16:27:08] ermes: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgGroupPermissions [16:29:21] thx [16:37:18] 03vyznev * r24656 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: rm redundant call to Title::newFromText() [16:46:21] Jouva: yes, sure, all caches are updated right away. Also note that full page cache only applies to anoymous editors. And also note that the parser cache is enabled per default. you are already using it, you probably have never noticed. [16:46:28] other types of cache should work just like that [16:46:51] How do I add a link to the toolbar on the left side? [16:46:59] phuzion: read the faq [16:47:17] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [16:48:08] Jack_Phoenix: it's in the topic.... [16:48:14] meh [16:52:21] Yeah, thanks for referring me to a file that doesn't answer my question, guys [16:53:42] phuzion: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_customize_the_navigation_bar.3F [16:58:43] moin [16:59:11] is there any way to allow style="display: none;" on select edits? [16:59:52] hm? allow? selected edits? [16:59:56] it's always allowed... [17:01:50] 03vyznev * r24657 10/trunk/extensions/ImageMap/ImageMap_body.php: kluge to handle [[#Fragment]] links, should really fix getLocalURL() in Title.php to return an empty string in this case [17:02:13] bbl [17:05:46] hmm [17:05:48] Duesentrieb [17:05:48] http://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taybet:Preferences [17:05:54] I cant make it english [17:06:02] the variant thing is overuling my other preference [17:08:57] 03(NEW) Interface "variant" overruling "language" preferance - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10837 15enhancement; high; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [17:12:24] 03(mod) Interface "variant" overruling "language" preferance - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10837 15enhancement->major (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [17:16:11] hi my wikipage cant load svg images and it says Error creating thumbnail: convert: Non-conforming drawing primitive definition `polygon'. [17:16:44] how can I solve this problem? [17:17:01] and why is this problem happening? [17:18:53] 03(NEW) Spanish translation for Lucene search - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10838 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (mgrojo) [17:19:47] Misza13: w00f [17:20:02] tar czf Jack_Phoenix.tar.gz Jack_Phoenix [17:20:09] :o [17:20:31] 03(mod) Interface "variant" overruling "language" preferance - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10837 major->normal; high->normal; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [17:24:46] 03raymond * r24658 10/trunk/extensions/LuceneSearch/LuceneSearch.i18n.php: [17:24:46] * (bug 10838) Spanish translation for Lucene search [17:24:47] Patch by Manuel G. R. [17:25:19] 03(FIXED) Spanish translation for Lucene search - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10838 +patch; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [17:29:17] 03raymond * r24659 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): [17:29:18] * (bug 10821) Update Chinese translations [17:29:20] Patch by Shinjiman [17:29:34] 03(FIXED) Update for Cantonese language (zh-yue) #51, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese (PRC) and Chinese (Taiwan) localisation (zh-cn/zh-tw) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10821 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [17:33:48] 03rainman * r24660 10/trunk/extensions/LuceneSearch/LuceneSearch.i18n.php: Translate the last bit of lucenepowersearchtext into es. [17:35:02] anyone has a clue why one of my wiki pages is ignoring $wgScriptPath? [17:38:24] err, ignore my question please, already fixed :) [17:39:00] 03(NEW) Update to the Spanish translation for CategoryTree - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10839 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CategoryTree; (mgrojo) [17:56:01] hello wiki fans [17:56:20] I am in need of assistance, are there people to help me out? [17:56:36] see the /topic :) [17:56:54] ah right [17:56:56] duh [17:56:58] well then [17:57:12] hi my wikipage cant load svg images and it says Error creating thumbnail: convert: Non-conforming drawing primitive definition `polygon'. [17:57:14] and why is this problem happening? [18:00:54] I'm running media wiki 1.6.10 on OS X server. I'm trying to enable math. I've built all the software required (ocaml, texvc, imagemagick, dvips, gs) after debugging as much as I can I still get "Failed to parse (PNG conversion failed; check for correct installation of latex, dvips, gs, and convert):" I found an error with convert which I cleared, I installed the wrong X11, however I still... [18:00:56] ...get that error [18:01:09] can anyone help me debug the process further... [18:02:05] oh and I built latex too [18:02:27] And I've verified that the webserver/php/mediawiki has the commands in its PATH [18:02:48] on the commandline I can runt he commands manually and get a PNG file... [18:03:01] sorry to keep adding the question... heh [18:04:30] whats sucks for me is I've installed this wiki with math support on another server and it works fine... So i'm starting to pull my hair out... [18:05:43] I don't know if this is part of the problem, but there are no .gs files showing up in wiki/images/tmp, only .aux .tex and .dvi [18:05:50] and .log [18:08:01] help me obi wiki kanobi your my only hope [18:08:10] I am having problems with math too where did you get the latex and dvips and how did you installed them on your server [18:08:18] Fink [18:08:23] as I did with the first server [18:08:38] my server is debian [18:09:01] yeah it worked fine on my Mac Mini Intel, but not on OS X Intel server... [18:09:16] and the process works fine from the commandline... [18:09:29] I'm totally puzzled... [18:09:45] where can I find the latex and dvips? [18:09:53] klemo? [18:10:08] however this time around (after reinstalling X11) i built ocaml from i got an error message which I can echo if you wish [18:10:14] yeah? [18:10:25] your asking me where you can find it for debian? [18:10:25] klemo: where can I find the latex and dvips? [18:10:30] yes [18:11:52] well those packages should be found from your package manager synaptic? [18:11:57] or apt [18:12:10] what is apt? [18:12:16] a package manager [18:12:26] on my server? [18:12:40] uh i'm not one of the helper guys here... I have questions my self... [18:12:50] okey ;) [18:13:02] sorry [18:13:17] one sec let me see if I can find the commands for you... [18:13:31]