[00:43:56] Stupid and Lazy Question: Can i use Loginfrom SMF ? [00:45:00] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SMF_AutoAuthenticate Thanks [01:00:10] 03robchurch * r24667 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialProtectedpages.php: Don't exclude NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK [01:00:17] 03(FIXED) Remove MediaWiki namespace as an option in Special: Protectedpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10798 +comment (10robchur) [01:02:41] 03robchurch * r24668 10/trunk/phase3/config/index.php: Revert r24666; don't see a need for it. The API is enabled for reads, but not writes, out of the box, which is a sane and safe default. [01:05:39] 03robchurch * r24669 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Document $wgEnableAPI and $wgEnableWriteAPI better [01:07:17] 03(mod) Set sitename for Mongolian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10825 summary (10robchur) [01:14:19] 03robchurch * r24670 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Poke and tweak [01:54:40] 03(mod) site_stats.ss_good_articles and site_stats. ss_total_pages not synchronized with the real count - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10834 (10robchur) [02:27:33] 03(mod) site_stats.ss_good_articles and site_stats. ss_total_pages not synchronized with the real count - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10834 (10wikipedia.danny.b) [02:35:29] 03(mod) site_stats.ss_good_articles and site_stats. ss_total_pages not synchronized with the real count - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10834 (10wikipedia.danny.b) [03:00:02] wassuuuppp?!?!?!?1 [03:04:17] is there a way for an extension to get the content of a specific page? [03:04:28] more specifically, to extract the initial section's content [03:10:23] eAi: I know the Labeled Section Transclusion extension (active on Wikisource) does it, so I assume so. [03:10:48] well, I think I just need a way to get an Article class instance for a particular page [03:13:32] maybe $wgParser->getSection(Revision::newFromTitle("title")->getText(),0) [04:24:45] 03(mod)
not parsed correctly if several in one line - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10840 (10danny_b) [04:26:31] 03(mod)
not parsed correctly if several in one line - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10840 +comment (10fearow00) [04:40:22] 03(mod) Sort of "karma" level applied to users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10789 (10danny_b) [04:45:55] 03(mod) Sort of "karma" level applied to users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10789 +comment (10fearow00) [04:51:12] 03(mod) Sort of "karma" level applied to users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10789 (10s0.sub.z3r0) [04:55:04] 03(mod) Sort of "karma" level applied to users - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10789 (10fearow00) [04:57:26] 03(mod) Filtering Special:Newpages by page size - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10817 (10danny_b) [05:22:19] 03(mod) Sorting and subcat/article count and other suggestions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10810 (10danny_b) [05:25:52] 03(mod) Flag to mark accounts locked/hidden - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6397 (10danny_b) [05:26:28] 03(NEW) Mongolian Wikipedia Logo Change - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10841 15enhancement; high; Wikimedia: Site requests; (chinneeb) [05:29:24] 03(mod) Including a Special Page adds a blank line - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10781 (10danny_b) [05:39:30] 03(mod) Show images used on the page in editor - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10801 (10danny_b) [05:48:21] 03(NEW) Don't post message on channel if changing CC field only - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10842 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (danny_b) [05:48:32] <_Danny_B_> :-) [05:51:23] 03(mod) Don't post message on channel if changing CC field only - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10842 +comment (10fearow00) [05:51:27] I have a sudden urge to just change the CC feild of that bug [05:51:47] 03(mod) Don't post message on channel if changing CC field only - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10842 (10fearow00) [05:52:12] 03(mod) Don't post message on channel if changing CC field only - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10842 (10fearow00) [05:52:26] There we are, urge gone. [05:55:21] <_Danny_B_> TheFearow: well - modifying means also removing = it doesn't necessary show bigger interest. besides eg. i sometimes add myself to cc not because of supporting but just being interested in technical stuff or so [05:55:47] True. But it shows interest in the bug, and removing shows people not being interested [05:56:45] <_Danny_B_> TheFearow: take a look in recent log how i flooded the channel just by adding myself to cc's because of going through new bugs in last 3 days [05:57:07] Ahh, I see why its useful [05:58:30] <_Danny_B_> however, i suggested wikibugs to run on another dedicated channel as well, so that channel can receive all messages while this one only comments & status changes [06:00:38] #mediawiki-bugs? [06:14:24] <_Danny_B_> yep [06:24:52] Hey there. We just made an update to our companies MediaWiki installation. Now there are a lot of invalid links in there that the old MW did accept but the new one does not. [06:25:12] Is there any way to use a script to check all pages for that pattern and replace it by the correct link? [06:25:39] *Bluehorn tried to Google it but searching for MediaWiki scripting only brings up security discussions. [06:25:54] sure. but how do you know which would be considered valid before and not now? [06:26:02] I can directly access the MySQL database if need be. [06:26:04] what kinds of differences are you seeing [06:26:05] ? [06:26:14] jeremyb: the links are of the form http:/foo/bar, referring to the local server. [06:26:32] ohhh [06:26:32] jeremyb: The old MediaWiki (1.3) accepted those and Firefox groks them as well. [06:26:38] just http with no [] ? [06:26:44] jeremyb: I want to replace them by {{SERVER}}/foo/bar [06:27:07] because those are deprecated aiui [06:27:26] jeremyb: So that could be the problem as well :) [06:27:30] show me the page. also i'm busy with other stuff so i might have to neglect you for a bit [06:27:42] ping me if i forget about you :) [06:28:02] We updated to 1.6.10 as the server still has PHP4. [06:28:25] jeremyb: Sorry, I can't show you as it is company internal data. Mostly organizational stuff anyway. [06:28:53] jeremyb: Like "the form for vacation can be found here: http:/Administration/Vacation_form.doc" [06:29:02] well make a page in a public mediawiki's sandbox that displays the same issue [06:29:20] http:// (2 slashes) i presume? [06:29:35] jeremyb: no, one slash [06:29:38] jeremyb: that's the problem! [06:29:43] why? [06:29:49] :) [06:30:07] jeremyb: because the server has a public (https) alias (needs authentification) and an internal IP. [06:30:17] you know 3 slashes is RFC legal but idk if MW supports it [06:30:18] jeremyb: Whoever added those links did not know {{SERVER}} [06:30:29] or no i'm confusing it with something else [06:30:45] right [06:31:03] jeremyb: Maybe, I checked the URL syntax and it requires two slashes. I do not remember if the host name is optional. [06:31:07] Let me check. [06:33:43] jeremyb: In fact it seems like https:/ is correct [06:34:24] jeremyb: Anyway, as MediaWiki does not grok it - can I run something as sed s,https:/[^/],{{SERVER}}/,g on the MediaWiki database? [06:34:40] Perhaps with a log message about automatic replacement. [06:35:08] sure. you can search using any mysql client you want. or through any index you have. [06:35:26] maybe the mediawiki builtin search would work. idk [06:39:01] jeremyb: That's quite obvious. However, replacing using MySQL is what I fear. I am sure I will break the database if I do it manually. [06:39:14] jeremyb: So I had the hope there is a tool that ensures correct editing of the database. [06:39:25] not replacing with mysql. just to generate a list of what needs to be done [06:39:54] then use something like pymediawikibot (or whatever the name is) [06:43:24] jeremyb: that was the pointer I was looking for, thanks [06:43:35] sure [07:34:46] Is here somebody who knows installing google coop search on mediawiki? [07:37:56] *jeremyb would guess there would be a wiki page about that if someone's done it before [07:42:11] yes there is a wiki page, but I did it like he said and it doesn't work... [07:43:27] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_Custom_Search_Engine [07:44:22] this is the page I mean but if i put the code from google on my wiki site, it will not be "converted" .. so the code stands there and nothing happens... [07:48:40] lol .. now I don't understand my wiki -.- .. i use WikiEd and if i click on preview ( of the wikied) it shows me the google search box, the normal preview doesn't, and if I safe it its also not a search box. And yes I clearded my cache ;) [07:52:18] 03(NEW) $wgUploadNavigationUrl on enwiki fails with https://secure .wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Special:Upload - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10843 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (raimond.spekking) [07:59:08] <_wooz> lo [08:49:52] is there a way to show only the i.e. "A" of the category pages? [09:03:08] EK_123: hit the A button on the category page? [09:03:46] or append &from=letter [09:11:43] ok thnx for your answer, I will try [09:12:36] jeremyb: what do you mean with the second line? &from=letter? [09:13:13] that doesnt work if I enter that behind "/Category:General" [09:13:57] add that to the end of the URL. so for example: http://www.aboutus.org/AboutUs:Bureaucrats [09:13:57] err [09:14:00] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Stubs?from=B [09:14:08] EK_123: example? [09:15:21] like your example, but I would like to see only the subjects that begin with i.e. D [09:15:40] is that possible? [09:16:27] s/B$/D/ ?? [09:19:04] like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Stubs?from/B$/D/? [09:19:06] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Stubs?from/B$/D/ [09:19:17] ugh [09:19:29] im srry...im not sure what you mean [09:19:47] doesn't hide the following letters (and i'm not sure if you can) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Stubs?from=D [09:20:25] it looks good, but he shows everything after D [09:21:28] EK_123: see from @ http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_index.php#View_and_render [09:23:39] hmm thnx anyway [09:26:41] sure [09:29:02] you know by chance if I can mix "from" and "until"? [09:47:36] 03nikerabbit * r24671 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * Small Slovak (sk) updates [09:48:19] If i want to hide the TOC in mediawiki the FAQ says to put display: none; in the css. When I use safari to find which css file to put it in ( wiki/skins/common/commonPrint.css ) and add it to this file I still see the toc. Does anyone know if there is another place I need to put this? [09:50:08] http://rafb.net/p/93GJSK47.html there is the pastebin of the css safari says it's downloading [09:56:26] FuzzyB: you can override css styles by editing the wiki *page* MediaWiki:common.css (create it if it doesn't exist) [09:56:34] this is the preferred way of customizing css [09:56:47] just make a new .toc {} ? [09:56:55] i'm retarded when it comes to css [09:57:36] if the class is called toc, yes: .toc { display: none } [09:57:47] don't forget the forced reload [09:58:37] i think the class is called toc i'm pretty sure that's what the faq said [09:58:53] Edit the CSS files; locate the style for the table of contents and add display: none; to the definition. [09:58:58] is what the FAQ says [09:59:31] there is .toc and #toc [09:59:45] make sure what you want (maybe both) [10:05:00] FuzzyB: the faq sais to edit the css file? that's silly. [10:05:20] and i'm wondering if i'm talking saying the right thing [10:05:27] i mean the whole left side navigation pane [10:05:35] including logo [10:05:45] that's *not* the table of contents. [10:06:15] to hide that, you'd have to rearange the entire layout - perhaps base your style on mystyle instead of monobook in that case. [10:06:42] hrm [10:07:10] FuzzyB: to hide it, you can use #column-one { display: none } [10:07:21] thank you [10:07:58] FuzzyB: that's simple enough - however, placement of the content block is based on the width of the bar on the left. you'll have to find out how it's placed, and also deal with the special-case-css for MSIE [10:08:09] doable, but not entirely trivial [10:08:15] MSIE isn't accessing this site [10:08:20] hehe [10:08:21] this is a intranet wiki [10:09:01] i'm actually trying to embed mediawiki into an extisting site [10:09:07] so it kinda looks like they are together [10:10:50] that did it thank you [10:10:58] except it's still got the hole there so i gotta find where it's width is spec'd [10:10:58] FuzzyB: besides #column-one { display: none }, you'll also have to change the margin of #column-content and #content [10:11:06] ok [10:11:53] for FireFox, FireBug is an excellent tool to find out which styles do what; it's pretty handy for all types of web development stuff [10:38:24] Hey brion. :) [10:38:50] mornin' [11:01:25] brion: https://wikitech.leuksman.com/view/Schema_changes :) [11:01:30] just to poke [11:01:46] *VoiceOfAll hits and runs [11:28:08] Hi, somebody knows which version of imagemagick is recommended for mediawiki (newest version) [11:30:08] current version would be good i guess ;) [11:30:14] i think 6.x is nice? [11:32:07] k thx [11:44:34] hello, where can I download this extension: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Prefixindex [11:44:41] I cannot find it in Extensions :( [11:45:56] it's not an extension, I guess [11:46:05] EK_123: thats a core function [11:46:24] how come it is not included in 1.10.1? [11:47:12] *Kalan opens his virgin localhost 1.10.1 MediaWiki installed some minutes ago and sees this page [11:47:22] lol? [11:47:40] lol? why? [11:47:45] sorry [11:47:52] i have the dutch version installed [11:47:59] and its name is differant [11:48:02] i found it.. [11:48:05] crazy dutch [11:48:07] hmm... [11:48:10] lol :p [11:48:12] brion, +1 [11:48:28] *Kalan thinks that canonical names should work always, disregarding to language chosen [11:48:35] Kalan: they do [11:48:47] shouldn't it be redirected? i have the german version and become redirected.. [11:48:57] yes [11:49:11] http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Prefixindex -> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:Prefixindex [11:49:52] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Prefixindex -> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Präfixindex [11:55:15] do you guys know another prefix extension? So I can choose between categories? [11:55:27] it would be great..looking for it the whole day :( [11:57:02] choose between? [11:57:10] 03(NEW) please change namespace for Greek Wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10844 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (ariel) [11:58:45] categories [11:58:50] instead of namespaces [11:59:04] hmm [11:59:09] well that would be a very long list on our wikis :) [11:59:35] hmmm...well on my wiki, i just have 3 categories [12:00:51] could somebody recommend extension giving ability to set some pages as not visible for most people but with possibility to release it to public too, ie when preparing something only editors or involved people can see/edit and rest only (registered or not) after release [12:01:05] Now, I have to add an new created article manually....because I made my own prefix, but it sux [12:04:42] <_Danny_B_> hello brion, how was your sleep? [12:04:50] great! [12:06:01] <_Danny_B_> is it possible to set new custom user group on wmf project? (we can provide necessary code, but need somebody with shell access) [12:06:49] in theory [12:07:37] <_Danny_B_> and what could cross the theory? [12:08:10] weeell what would it do? who would manage it? [12:09:40] <_Danny_B_> i took a look in doc and as far as i understood you can create new user group by setting the set of rights from all rights available [12:13:54] <_Danny_B_> so the idea is to create the new group with certain combination of rights, since none of current groups fit the needs [12:21:54] hi :) [12:22:05] I found this page [[Manual:Article]] where it is explained when a page is a "content page". [12:22:17] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Article [12:22:28] Now I have a question. Is it also an internal link when there is embedded an image? [12:31:09] hi everyone :) [12:31:57] does anyone know where I have to ask for the installation of wikipedia [12:31:59] ? [12:32:39] adelinao: didn't understand. You want to have a copy of Wikipedia on your machine or set up a MediaWiki for other use? [12:32:44] I can't find precisely what dump I have to import to make a clean installation [12:32:55] first solution [12:33:22] a copy [12:34:09] dunno about that. adelinao: have you found the page with the dumps in .bz ? [12:34:18] yeah [12:34:26] but there are many dumps [12:34:34] just grab the latest with or wihtout histories depending on what you want to do [12:35:05] I tried with meta-current.xml.bz2, something like that, but some tables are incomplete [12:35:46] I also tried importing all the dumps, but the copy of wikipedia is strange then [12:36:45] juxo : the people here do know about wikimedia, but is it here I can learn about how to install wikipedia properly ? [12:37:46] adelinao: you should distinguish Wikimedia (foundation) Wikipedia (Encyclopediae) and MediaWiki (wiki software) to be better understood [12:41:30] yes, sorry, I wanted to say mediawiki instead of wikimedia [12:42:03] the wiki software mediawiki is closely linked to wikipedia [12:42:26] so I thought some people here would know about the installation of wikipedia [12:43:13] does anyone know of good code editors (with tabs pls) for OS X? [12:43:30] it's been three months since I have started installing it, and I still don't have the clue :( [12:43:37] juxo: vim? [12:50:34] Greetings ! [12:50:50] i need help withInputboxes [12:51:25] When i should create a article from a inputbox i get ^^The action specified by the URL is not recognized by the wiki ^^ [12:52:12] Annyone have a idea what i should do?` [12:53:27] aNNYONE FAMILIAR WITH THIS? [12:53:54] apparently not. [12:54:06] ok [12:54:19] About how can i embed on youtube movie then? [12:57:04] 03(mod) Search namespaces 106 and 108 by default in French Wikiversity - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10804 +comment (10ricardman77) [13:01:14] 03(NEW) When the above link is selected its displaying the contents of system testing instaed of functional testing page .. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10845 major; high; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (arunhaveri) [13:01:24] Zizanzu: several extensions for that are on mediawiki.org [13:03:20] Duesentrieb, you told brion about yesterday's¿ [13:04:35] christ people, just pop this stuff on the mailing list [13:04:43] instead of all of you telling me about it when you log in [13:05:10] i saw duesentrieb was going to tell you [13:05:21] but wasn't sure if he really did :P [13:05:59] i guess this means yes :) [13:06:01] :D [13:08:14] Has anyone managed or tried installing Wikipedia ? [13:08:36] <^demon> adelinao: Installing the MediaWiki software? Yes. [13:08:53] and a copy of Wikipedia [13:09:07] with sql or xml dumps [13:10:29] mmm it seems not.... :( [13:10:54] adelinao, it's documented [13:11:35] where ? I've never found something clear about that [13:12:27] 03(mod) More flexible reports, dynamic arguments, template awareness ... - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9203 +comment (10mediawiki_bug) [13:13:33] I mean there are things explained about the imports, and how to do it, but not about WHICH/WHAT dumps to imports [13:18:25] adelinao: pages-articles.xml.bz2 [13:18:58] not pages-meta-current.xml.bz2 ? [13:19:19] adelinao: if you want all user pages, talk pages, policy, help.... all that cruft, then pages-meta-current.xml.bz2 [13:19:40] all xml dumps are essentially stand-alone. [13:20:09] they don't require anything else to be imported (in fact, you shouldn't import anything in addition to an exm dump, except perhaps another xml dump, if you are sure they do not overlap) [13:20:21] which xml dump you want depends on which pages you want [13:20:35] ok :) [13:21:14] but how come that the category links are not complete when I import the pages-meta-current.xml.bz2 dump ? [13:21:18] adelinao: when setting up a wikipedia mirror, be sure to be compliant with the terms of the GFDL. [13:21:32] there'S a page on wikipedia about policy wrt to forks&mirrors somehwere [13:21:53] mmm... [13:22:31] adelinao: i'm not sure how linktables are updated on import. if you use mwdumper, they may well not be. in that case, you would have to run rebuildLinks.php from the maintenance directory (expect this to take a loooong time) [13:23:04] in fact I'm doing the import with the importDump.php script [13:23:20] afaik that should keep link tables up to date [13:23:30] anyway, goot fetch some food. bbl [13:23:47] $fridge->fetch('food') ? [13:23:56] haha [13:24:36] <^demon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:MIRROR - might be of some help. [13:24:56] thanks, demon, I'll have a look :) [13:26:17] I also have a problem with memory_limit when I run the importDump.php script :( [13:27:18] I also have a problem of memory_limit when I run the importDump.php script... [13:27:42] although memory_limit is set to -1, which is meant to be unlimited :( [13:31:57] 14(INVALID) When the above link is selected its displaying the contents of system testing instaed of functional testing page .. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10845 +comment (10danny_b) [13:36:14] 03(mod) Make MediaWiki: Sharedupload point to Commons with lang setting of that wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10827 (10danny_b) [13:40:27] *Bidoll is away: I'm busy [13:41:11] *Bidoll is back (gone 00:00:44) [13:44:12] YES! Eclipse with perl support installed [13:44:21] and it seems to work! [13:57:54] bjr [13:59:16] Hi all, has anyone seen Rob Church? and does he still work on the mediaWiKi project? [14:00:26] crazygovemployee: yes, I have seen him yesterday [14:00:51] ohh, good [14:01:28] i have a few questions for him, do you know if he is on this board during the day (EST, GMT+4) [14:03:36] crazygovemployee: dunno his times.. varies [14:04:18] you hunting him down for revenge or to ask general questions? :) [14:06:26] lol, no no, I am working on a wiki project and wanted to know if would be interested in consulting [14:06:41] was not sure if he does that [14:09:44] brion: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6935768.stm [14:10:29] 03(mod) Update for Lithuanian language (lt) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9742 +comment (10garas-) [14:10:42] 04(REOPENED) Update for Lithuanian language (lt) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9742 (10garas-) [14:10:50] O.o [14:10:57] Hi, is there a way to make non-logged-in visitors to my wiki see just a blank page telling them to log in, rather than the logo, the nav, etc. Basically, it would be ideal for them to not even know it's a wiki. [14:11:47] crazygovemployee: he might be, try e-mail if you don't catch him online :) [14:11:58] VoiceOfAll: O_O [14:12:13] i would, but i dont have his email. [14:15:34] <^demon|busy> akahn: There's no sure-fire way to do read access to mediawiki [14:16:18] crazygovemployee: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Robchurch [14:16:42] ^demon|busy: how do you maen? [14:17:22] <^demon|busy> akahn: It's do-able, but it's very hard to make the mediawiki unreadable to non-logged-in people. [14:18:00] ^demon|busy: so http authentication might be better in certain situations? [14:18:12] <^demon|busy> Yes. [14:18:30] Thanks Raymond! [14:18:36] <^demon|busy> Although...an extension to force user login might be do-able... [14:19:19] <^demon|busy> Extensions are loaded after core mediawiki but before the parser outputs, right? [14:19:22] ^demon|busy: i have the wiki set up to force the user to log in, i just don't want the user to see the search box, logo, etc. until they're logged in [14:19:37] <^demon|busy> Hmmm, doable with a bit of javascript. [14:20:00] where would i put that javascript? [14:20:11] <^demon|busy> [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] [14:20:54] and i would write some code that would effectively say: "remove this stuff from this page" ? [14:21:25] 03raymond * r24672 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesLt.php: [14:21:25] * (bug 9742) Update Lithuanian translations [14:21:27] Patch by Edgaras [14:21:58] <^demon|busy> akahn: Right, check to see if they have a usergroup, if not, hide the page elements with CSS. If so, do nothing. [14:22:19] 03(FIXED) Update for Lithuanian language (lt) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9742 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [14:24:08] ^demon|busy: interesting... doable for me with my very limited programming skill... although maybe http auth would be better. my boss seemed to not like the idea of http auth though. [14:33:40] how do you change the font-family for a wiki? [14:33:50] (using common.css) [14:34:50] <_Danny_B_> entire wiki? [14:34:57] yes [14:35:01] what is the code? [14:35:09] <_Danny_B_> body{font-family:} [14:35:55] is there any other place that the font could be determined? [14:36:07] <_Danny_B_> may be overriden by otehr rules with more detailed selectors though [14:36:14] ok [14:36:38] what about for pages like move, delete, protect [14:36:46] how do you change the background and font colors? [14:41:59] Where I can find normal Installation instruction? I download new version 1.10.1 extract and upload to server and what next? I dont get it :/ [14:43:12] Min2liz: the topic of this channel has links to help documents [14:43:57] yeh I try to read, but always get error: Warning: main(./includes/WebStart.php) [function.main]: failed to open stream. About errors on Wiki now info :) [14:51:09] Now help :( [14:51:11] no [15:00:36] hi [15:12:29] Is there an extension that would allow me to embed images from the non-wiki part of my site using wiki markup, without uploading it to the wiki? [15:16:04] hey ho [15:16:43] I was thinking about vertical text after taiwan [15:17:02] just wanted to say, the CSS3 draft supports it, which is nice [15:17:13] http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-css3-text-20010517/#PrimaryTextAdvanceDirection [15:19:54] mozilla already supports a few CSS 3 properties, so there's no fundamental reason why it can't be done [15:21:09] yo [15:21:25] i don't think they support the vertical stuff though [15:21:54] well, you told me that the browsers don't, and I'll believe you [15:22:04] mozilla's support table seems to confirm that [15:22:21] but the draft specs do, so that gives me a glimmer of hope that some day we'll have such support [15:23:06] hehe [15:23:13] well feel free to give it a shot :) [15:23:21] *TimStarling is in hong kong airport, boarding in about 5 minutes [15:24:03] looks like we're going to get out before the storm hits, the taipei to hong kong flight had to go off course a fair way to avoid it [15:24:11] lucky [15:28:05] brion try /msg chanserv access #wikipedia-en del brion [15:28:08] this would remove you [15:28:15] I mentioned the problem of vertical text to KJ a couple of days ago [15:28:30] I said that apparently it's required in mongolian [15:28:49] she said "not just mongolian, also in northern china text is required to be vertical" [15:29:03] KJ is a taipei local [15:29:23] *White_Cat ponders how en.wiki would look like if rotated verticaly [15:29:28] gtg, bye [15:31:37] anyone familiar with troubleshooting math with media wiki 1.6.10? [15:31:42] on OS X? [15:35:48] ok well, i'm still waiting on Biron then... [15:36:40] <_Danny_B_> Klemo: he's here [15:38:10] Klemo: not much i can tell you beyond what to install; if it doesn't work from there, things get tricky ;) [15:38:23] what's your status? [15:39:33] sweet [15:39:46] sorry i;m on the phone I'll fasion my question in a sec [15:39:49] k [15:41:15] if I have something like this: [15:41:15] =Resources= [15:41:15] [http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246302.html Using GEF and EMF] Redbook by IBM [15:41:15] how can I set an internal link to exactly the Redbook link? [15:42:57] I would use [#Resources] to jump to the resource section, but how can I reference a specific element inside? [15:43:42] Stefan-qn: [15:44:55] and than [#mycoolthing] ? [15:45:24] yeah i've insalled all of the required apps, I made sure my webserver/php can see them in its PATH. I had a problem with convert about Xlibs, which I corrected. I still manage to get an error on the wiki page "Failed to parse (PNG conversion failed; check for correct installation of latex, dvips, gs, and convert):" If I run the commands on the comandline from the render.ml I can get a png. I... [15:45:26] ...commented the clean up routines in the render.ml and in my images/tmp directory I don't see any ps files, if that means anything... [15:50:40] <_Danny_B_> Stefan-qn: suggesting use of and - they address directly [15:50:41] funny thing is, this is the second time I've setup math on media wiki, first time I was able to get it all working no problem, and this time I'm losing my hair... Both installations are on Intel MacsOS X [15:51:23] and I've installed media wiki countless other times on linux... without the math functions though.... [15:51:23] Klemo: check for permission problems. [15:51:28] I did... [15:51:40] the web server owns all the files and folders [15:52:02] I even did a 777 just to make sure, but I put them back.... [15:52:12] Klemo: put the command line you used for testing into a php file like this: (` are backticks, not quotes) [15:52:22] call that from the browser. see what happens. [15:52:46] lol... ok I'll try that... [15:53:15] Klemo: mybe use passthru instead of backticks... and redirect stderr to stdout (append 2>&1 to the command) [15:53:43] ok [15:58:15] _Danny_B_ [15:58:34] the don't work at the eclipse wiki [15:59:14] hrm... [16:00:17] In an attempt to reconstruct the commands I used yesterday, I remeber reading that I can test texvc with a comand like the following... (from my math dir) ./texvc ../images/tmp ../images/math "y=x+2" iso-8859-1 [16:00:31] which yesterday did not work, and today does... [16:00:55] should I try that command in the PHP script or should I do the 3 commands from with render.ml ? [16:04:23] So I guess I'm going to add this to a php script... `/Library/WebServer/Wise/wiki/math/texvc /Library/WebServer/Wise/wiki/images/tmp /Library/WebServer/Wise/wiki/images/math "y=3+2" iso-8859-1 2>&1` [16:09:43] ok thats strange... [16:10:26] I changed my script to look like ...... [16:10:37] and I get this output on the screen..... C096676fdc7924e4e49478ce4539b769cy = 15 + 2 [16:10:49] and I do not get any images in images/math or tmp [16:12:03] actually thats a lie... I do get a .tex file in images/tmp but no image in images/math [16:13:34] when the same command on the command line yields both .tex and .png [16:18:06] i'll let you guys roll that around... I need coffee be back in 10-15.. [16:25:39] Klemo: PATH problems seem likely [16:25:55] texvc wants convert to be in the PATH, i think [16:26:16] whereas web server process may not have it set the way you like [16:27:26] ok i'll investigate... [16:27:43] I did use some php script I found that checks the path of the commands... [16:27:51] that seemed to work, but I'll double check... [16:28:09] Klemo: exec("echo $PATH"); [16:28:37] Klemo: exec("which dvipng"); [16:28:46] well, and echo the output [16:28:54] and the exit code too, perhaps [16:45:15] 03brion * r24675 10/trunk/extensions/UsernameBlacklist/ (UsernameBlacklist.i18n.php UsernameBlacklist.php): [16:45:20] Increase robustness as done for SpamBlacklist: [16:45:24] * Suppress PHP warnings for PCRE work [16:45:34] * If there's an invalid fragment, break the combined regex into separate ones for minimal disruption [16:45:35] * Validate the blacklist on edit and display the bad lines to the editor, requiring correction [16:45:50] wow that only took forever to show up on cia [16:46:51] heh [16:50:56] is it possible to attach boolean value to titles without creating a new table? [16:51:08] 03(WONTFIX) Allow multiple namespace selection on special pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10628 +comment (10brion) [16:55:26] 03(WONTFIX) New magic words to display number of redirects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10678 +comment (10brion) [16:55:58] brion may I have two minutes? [16:57:08] 03(mod) diff deletes text in edit form in the Page: namespace - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10679 (10brion) [16:57:27] bugzilla or email [16:57:35] damn there is a path problem.... C096676fdc7924e4e49478ce4539b769cy = 15 + 2 [16:57:37] /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/libexec:/System/Library/CoreServices [16:57:38] no dvips in /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/libexec /System/Library/CoreServices [16:58:00] /sw/bin should be in the path... [16:58:09] let me update my local setting.ini [16:58:10] 03(WONTFIX) Enable interwiki transclusion between all wikis - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10681 (10brion) [16:58:45] brion sure, thank [16:58:48] this is in my LocalSettings.ini should this cover it? $path = getenv("PATH"); [16:58:48] thanks [16:58:49] putenv("PATH=$path:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/sw/bin"); [17:00:29] 14(WFM) page creation wizard - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10688 +comment (10brion) [17:00:42] FYI it was already in my LocalSettings File... I did not just update it... [17:00:55] brb [17:06:15] 03(mod) Interface "variant" overruling "language" preferance - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10837 (10brion) [17:06:18] 14(DUP) invisible navigation not translated for variants - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10704 +comment (10brion) [17:06:21] 03(mod) Interface "variant" overruling "language" preferance - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10837 +comment (10brion) [17:06:24] 03(NEW) Order of pages with Persian titles - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10846 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (huji.huji) [17:06:58] 04(REOPENED) Enable deletion of log enteries - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10708 (10brion) [17:07:00] 03(WONTFIX) Enable deletion of log enteries - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10708 (10brion) [17:08:42] 03(mod) Move summary should display redirect page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10710 (10brion) [17:08:53] 14(INVALID) Make customised BugZilla source available in Subversion - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10711 +comment (10brion) [17:10:07] 03(WONTFIX) Give internal links a specific class - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10714 +comment (10brion) [17:10:37] 03raymond * r24676 10/trunk/extensions/UsernameBlacklist/UsernameBlacklist.i18n.php: [17:10:41] * PLURAL is available, use it [17:10:48] * Update German [17:12:14] 03(WONTFIX) Multi-select Namespace Search - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10718 (10brion) [17:13:11] 03(WONTFIX) Give users the ability to edit their own edit summaries - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10723 (10brion) [17:14:31] 04(REOPENED) CAPTCHA doesn't work for blind people - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4845 (10brion) [17:14:34] 03(mod) CAPTCHA doesn't work for blind people - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4845 +comment (10brion) [17:14:34] 14(DUP) CAPTCHA challanges keep blind users from using wikimedia' s full functionality - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10340 +comment (10brion) [17:18:34] 03(mod) Set project namespace for Greek Wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10844 summary (10robchur) [17:20:40] at the moment i'm linking to my category "Notes" with [[:Category:Notes]] [17:20:50] but this displays the link as "Category:Notes" [17:21:03] is there a way to have the link text as "Notes" or anything else? [17:21:33] 03(mod) Allow multiple namespace selection on special pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10628 +comment (10eep) [17:22:19] Andrew`_: [[:Category:Notes|Notes]] ? [17:22:50] 14(INVALID) Add a Title parameter to User::isAllowed() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10758 +comment (10brion) [17:23:50] ..an extension ("Farmer") is telling me to install this patch (http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=2140&action=view)...where does the patch go? [17:24:04] Thanks Raymond_ :) [17:24:34] :) [17:25:40] 14(INVALID) Rename Quicksearch plugin to "Mediazilla" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10770 (10brion) [17:26:08] 14(DUP) Every category page doesn't sort article Bulgarian (cyrillic) names correctly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10771 +comment (10brion) [17:26:09] 03(mod) Support collation by a certain locale ( sorting order of characters) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 +comment (10brion) [17:28:02] 03(mod) Add a Title parameter to User::isAllowed() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10758 (10bugzilla) [17:28:14] 14(DUP) 
 tag bug(s)? - "Save page" destroys content - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10776  +comment (10brion)
[17:28:18] 	03(mod) Section editing confused by 
 tags - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10309  +comment (10brion)
[17:28:33] 	04(REOPENED) Add a Title parameter to User::isAllowed() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10758  (10bugzilla)
[17:28:42] 	I don't think I like the fact that novice administrators can accidentally enable cascading protection. I think we should have a check box for it in the installer. I don't like the idea that the installer creates a user or a main page without the express permission of the person installing, either, so we should definitely make those optional.
[17:29:12] 	03(mod) Anchor only links create A tags without tooltips - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10777  (10brion)
[17:29:25] 	In fact, it's not really safe to have default permissions allowing anyone to read or edit either, so maybe we should fix that up.
[17:30:47] 	14(DUP) Postgresql doesn't allow illegal utf8 characters in statements - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10780  +comment (10brion)
[17:30:57] 	03(mod)  Math rendering with TeX on postgres requires use of pg_escape_bytea() - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9909  +comment (10brion)
[17:32:02] 	14(INVALID) Notice: Undefined offset: 1 in SpecialVersion.php on line 257 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10782  +comment (10brion)
[17:33:25] 	06(LATER) Feature request: visible or metadata watermarking of hotlinked files - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10784  +comment (10brion)
[17:34:05] 	Hmm, brion; docs/hooks.txt implies that $wgHooks[blah][] = array( function name ); is perfectly valid.
[17:34:47] 	14(INVALID) Spaces in url before arguments breaks images ( improper urlencoding) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10787  +comment (10brion)
[17:36:40] 	14(INVALID) $wgLoadBalancer has wrongType - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10796  +comment (10brion)
[17:36:43] 	03(mod) Multi-select Namespace Search - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10718  (10eep)
[17:37:56] 	04(REOPENED) Remove MediaWiki namespace as an option in Special: Protectedpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10798  +comment (10brion)
[17:38:51] 	03(mod) Multi-select Namespace Search - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10718  (10robchur)
[17:39:09] 	robchurch: my sarcasm detector just exploid
[17:39:23] 	Why?
[17:39:31] 	03(WONTFIX) Allow nested lists in MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3597  +comment (10brion)
[17:40:00] 	your comment about that it shouldn't create a main page without the express permission of the admin - unless you were serious ...
[17:40:04] 	03(WONTFIX) Upgrade installed DynamicPageList on NL-WB - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10807  +comment (10brion)
[17:40:16] 	03(WONTFIX) Introduce Special:Suffixindex - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10808  +comment (10brion)
[17:41:00] 	Well, if you follow the logic of certain people...
[17:41:12] 	Shit, batten down the hatches, brion's on a rampage.
[17:41:28] 	14(INVALID) Sorting and subcat/article count and other suggestions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10810  +comment (10brion)
[17:41:43] 	indeed
[17:42:13] 	03(mod) Multi-select Namespace Search - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10718  (10eep)
[17:42:15] 	14(INVALID) Automatic categorization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10811  +comment (10brion)
[17:42:53] 	03(mod) Introduce Special:Suffixindex - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10808  (10eep)
[17:43:25] 	03(mod) Multi-select Namespace Search - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10718  (10eep)
[17:44:22] 	My point is that we expose the wiki by default and allow people to lock it up to their heart's content.
[17:44:35] 	The API isn't exposing anything that isn't otherwise accessible via the web interface.
[17:45:35] 	..an extension ("Farmer") is telling me to install this patch (http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=2140&action=view)...where does the patch go?
[17:46:00] *feltipen 	feels he is asking a ludicrously stupid question
[17:46:33] 	03(WONTFIX) New restore this version link in page history for sysops - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10831  +comment (10brion)
[17:46:33] 	you pass that file as a parameter for the patch utility
[17:46:56] 	03robchurch * r24680 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Revert r24574 and r24667 per Brion on bug 10798
[17:47:44] 	03(WONTFIX) Remove MediaWiki namespace as an option in Special: Protectedpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10798  +comment (10robchur)
[17:48:51] 	03yaron * r24681 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_CreateTemplate.php: 
[17:48:51] 	Updated: input for the 'semantic property' is now a dropdown, not a text
[17:48:51] 	field; template format is settable; link to 'create property' form, other
[17:48:51] 	related changes
[17:49:52] 	03yaron * r24682 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_CreateForm.php: Added link to 'create template' form
[17:50:19] 	03(mod) site_stats.ss_good_articles and site_stats. ss_total_pages not synchronized with the real count - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10834  (10brion)
[17:50:36] 	03yaron * r24683 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_CreateProperty.php: New special page: form to let user create an attribute or relation
[17:51:53] 	Hi all
[17:52:20] 	I've got a question about modifying the wiki i'm using.
[17:52:55] 	I've read the FAQ, but don't understand it, about how to hide the main page title.
[17:53:16] 	Edit the MediaWiki:Common.css page on your wiki and add the following:
[17:53:28] 	body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display: none; }
[17:54:46] 	03yaron * r24685 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (INSTALL includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php): 
[17:54:47] 	New version, 0.5 - new 'create property' form, a set of related changes to
[17:54:47] 	other forms, and a parsing bug fix
[18:04:58] 	i am having trouble with images on my wiki. jpgs uploaded are not thumbnailed correctly, and the mime is displayed as unknown/uknown. Am I missing a dependancy or something?
[18:05:13] 	04(REOPENED) Automatic categorization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10811  +comment (10eep)
[18:06:38] 	you need to fix mime recognition
[18:06:59] 	hm, the title of the page stays, I read in the FAQ about using JavaScript in pre 1.9, the one I use is 1.6.10
[18:07:32] 	file "imange_name" states the correct mime type. any idea where to start to get teh wiki to know the correct typE?
[18:07:54] 	In what file does this script have to be written?
[18:08:27] 	here's the link to the page : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:FAQ#How_do_I_hide_the_main_page_title.3F
[18:09:10] 	usually MEdiawiki:common.js
[18:09:23] 	but if it's 1.6 you probably need mediawiki:monobook.js instead
[18:09:46] 	03yaron * r24686 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_LanguageEn.php: Re-inserted accidental removal
[18:10:06] 	ah, thanks Platonides, I think this 'extra' explanation should be added in the FAQ
[18:10:45] 	I need help making a new language file
[18:12:33] 	Does the logic for building links to articles originate from one location?  The logic that determines weather or not the article exists and sets the color/style for that link accordingly.
[18:16:19] 	hello
[18:16:42] 	how can I export category 'children', can I use Special:Export? and if, how?
[18:17:08] 	the FAQ suggestions dont seem to help
[18:19:01] 	tehmaze yes, you can add the pages from X category
[18:19:20] 	what you can't is also add the pages in its subcategories
[18:19:28] 	you have to manually do the recursion
[18:22:22] 	Great! It worked, thanks a lot
[18:26:06] 	hi Pathoschild 
[18:27:29] 	Hey.
[18:28:23] 	Nikerabbit: Shanel wanted you to import some localization files from BetaWiki. Did you see the message?
[18:28:33] 	Shanel?
[18:28:45] 	A member of the language subcommittee.
[18:29:31] 	hmm, which language?
[18:29:42] 	Platonides: ok, could you tell me what the call is like? /Special:Export/Category:Name/ only exports the 'description' so to speak
[18:29:51] *Pathoschild 	greps his logs.
[18:31:08] 	nl is on my todo, I haven't seend others that I've not done
[18:32:00] 	hsb; there are already localization files from a previous project, but they finished off the last ones.
[18:33:03] 	previous project?
[18:33:26] 	what should I import and from where and to where? :D
[18:33:30] 	There's a Wikipedia in that language, I think. They're opening a Wiktionary or something.
[18:33:58] 	Just need to add the new BetaWiki translations for hsb in the MediaWiki localization files. :)
[18:34:11] 	so this http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki/Toiminnot:TranslateDev?task=review&group=core&language=hsb
[18:34:33] 	That language; not sure if it's only core translations.
[18:35:50] 	hi timichal 
[18:36:20] 	Bleh, I have to go. They already have the namespaces and other hidden translations done for the Wikipedia. Poke timichal if you have any questions. :p
[18:36:58] *Nikerabbit 	pokes timichal with a chainsaw
[18:37:09] 	-> uga
[18:37:43] 	03rotem * r24687 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[18:37:43] 	Adding direction marks between the edit comments and the page name in the
[18:37:43] 	contributions and logs pages, to prevent problems when the direction of both is
[18:37:43] 	not the direction of the site (e.g. RTL site, LTR page name and edit comment).
[18:55:16] 	anyone know why mediawiki stores the entire text of previose versions of an article
[18:55:19] 	and not just the diff of them
[18:56:05] 	hello
[18:57:39] 	is there any trick to search a short word in MW like "ed" ?        when I search the word "ed " the search engine doesn't find      "ed -o <<< si/pattern...."
[18:58:02] 	mysql search only goes for words longer than 3 characters
[18:58:04] 	with or without quotes,
[18:58:28] 	there is a way to set it differently, but you can google it out
[18:58:39] 	it's on the mediawiki.l archives
[18:58:50] 	you need to edit your my.conf
[18:58:54] 	it's not possible to find two letters & a space like "ed " ?
[18:59:26] 	what is the words to serch on google ?
[18:59:36] 	*search* ?
[19:01:42] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Short_words_in_searches
[19:02:47] 	I would like to get a list of category members, how can I do this using Special:Export or similar ?
[19:04:47] 	ft_min_word_len=2
[19:05:48] 	04(REOPENED) Spaces in url before arguments breaks images ( improper urlencoding) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10787  +comment (10ziba)
[19:16:43] 	to make a new language file, do you just translate everything in the en language php file by hand, or is there a better/easier way to do it?
[19:18:47] 	Pinky: by hand or via Nikerabbit's Betawiki: http://nike.users.idler.fi/betawiki
[19:19:04] 	ok
[19:19:05] 	thanks
[19:19:42] 	Pinky: we have an own channel for this stuff: #mediawiki-i18n
[19:20:04] 	ok
[19:21:56] 	hi
[19:22:16] 	I have a problem to install MediaWiki
[19:22:32] 	Pinky: about which language do you talk?
[19:22:43] 	heh
[19:22:45] 	Once I have uploaded all files
[19:22:46] 	Pig Latin
[19:22:57] 	I have the page:
[19:23:02] 	MediaWiki 1.10.1
[19:23:02] 	Please set up the wiki first. 
[19:23:06] 	so it seems to be ok
[19:23:09] 	but when I click on set up
[19:23:18] 	Warning: require_once(install-utils.inc) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /mnt/149/sda/b/a/myfreetv/wiki/config/index.php on line 43
[19:23:34] 	and
[19:23:49] 	Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'install-utils.inc' (include_path='/mnt/149/sda/b/a/myfreetv/include:.:/usr/php5/lib/php') in /mnt/149/sda/b/a/myfreetv/wiki/config/index.php on line 43
[19:24:01] 	03aaron * r24688 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): *Make filerevert message less clumsy
[19:26:29] 	nobody can help me?
[19:27:27] 	Raymond_: why?
[19:27:42] 	Pinky: pong
[19:28:22] 	ping?
[19:28:24] 	lol
[19:28:35] 	hmm
[19:29:35] 	Pinky: args.. wrong window for pong... /me needs cofffee
[19:30:11] 	ok :)
[19:30:12] 	Pinky: pig latin? do we have a Wikimedia wiki in this language? Or in Incubator?
[19:30:29] 	I'm pretty sure no pig latin wikimedia wiki exists
[19:30:43] 	there used to be a klingon one though...
[19:30:51] 	thought that ones hosted by wikia now
[19:31:42] 	ok
[19:32:56] 	*though
[19:34:42] 	ugaga
[19:45:09] 	Raymond_: will/is it a lot harder to do it if theres no existing wiki in the language?
[19:46:16] 	Raymond_: in some cases  it's not easy to see in which context a message is used without a wiki in this language.
[19:48:03] 	ah
[19:48:28] 	03(mod) Spaces in upload pathname breaks images (improper urlencoding) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10787  summary; +comment (10brion)
[19:48:51] 	if I could just get a list of all the words that needed translating, nothing else, I could have a bot do it
[19:49:18] 	but the PHP language file has stuff like "NS_CATEGORY" in it, stuff that shouldn't be translated
[19:49:43] 	and, I don't know of a very easy way to have it ignore that :|
[19:50:39] <^demon|verybusy>	Pinky: Regex to skip anything beginning with NS_
[19:51:15] 	why do you want to translate it into pig latin?
[19:51:30] 	because its a pig latin wiki
[19:51:38] 	03(mod) Upgrade installed DynamicPageList on NL-WB - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10807  (10brion)
[19:52:15] 	03robchurch * r24689 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Nothing clumsy about it in the first place; having the file name in the title is helpful
[19:53:37] 	03(mod) Automatic categorization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10811  (10brion)
[20:06:52] 	Pinky: you can get a list very easily - write a small php program that loads the language file, and looks at the $messages array (and a few more arrays if you like, like $specialPageAliases etc)
[20:07:01] 	03(FIXED) extension request: ; together with {{intro: page}} and &action=intro - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3626  (10thomasV1)
[20:07:17] 	ok
[20:07:17] 	there are some messages in $messages that are not really *messages*, and should not be translated
[20:07:27] 	I don't know PHP, so I'll have to learn it a bit
[20:07:28] 	like the entry for 'sidebar'
[20:07:31] 	but those are few.
[20:07:31] 	yeah
[20:07:43] 	Pinky: do you know any programming language?
[20:07:46] 	Python
[20:08:08] 	you should'ne need more than a couple of hours to get the basics of php then
[20:08:29] 	documentation on php.net is pretty decent
[20:09:09] 	ok
[20:09:10] 	of course, python is a much nicer language :)
[20:09:14] 	:)
[20:15:43] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageProtection#Example
[20:15:52] 	brion: well, that looks secure ;)
[20:16:13] 	ooo
[20:16:15] 	...
[20:16:27] *juxo 	wrote his first ever oo perl today
[20:18:00] 	I finally decided upon advice from a good friend to get Eclipse and epic perl plugin and must say I likes it so far
[20:18:23] 	which cost me 0?, code is weird
[20:19:21] 	could someone tell me about these infoboxes in MW? Can I use such for filling in large templates?
[20:19:29] 	long time no see brion
[20:20:06] 	hey juxo
[20:20:23] 	infoboxes suck
[20:20:33] 	this just in: no shit
[20:22:05] 	brion: I'm not sure. input box?
[20:22:21] 	something to generate templates by asking the user questions?
[20:22:55] 	infoboxes are just tables
[20:23:05] 	ok I'm back... Hey Biron, so even though I have "$path = getenv("PATH");
[20:23:05] 	which usually are constructed via horrid combinations of templates
[20:23:06] 	templates containing tables
[20:23:06] 	  putenv("PATH=$path:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/sw/bin");" inside my LocalSettings.ini file, dvips is still not in the PATH... where should I add it?
[20:23:17] 	hmmm
[20:23:25] 	that usually ought to do it :(
[20:23:40] 	does the syntax look right?
[20:23:42] 	$path = getenv("PATH");
[20:23:43] 	  putenv("PATH=$path:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/sw/bin");
[20:24:02] 	should it be $PATH = getenv?
[20:24:22] 	no
[20:25:17] 	brion: I mean like this seen here -> http://wikicompany.org/wiki/Special:WCPublish
[20:25:36] 	maybe it's a something special by Walden himself.
[20:25:43] 	must... inquire...
[20:25:54] *brion 	idly wonders what the cat is scratching up in the other room
[20:27:55] 	03(mod) Spaces in upload pathname breaks images (improper urlencoding) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10787  (10brion)
[20:28:16] 	Heya folks.  I was wondering if it was possible to insert a carriage return inside of a 
 tag.  I've got a numbered list that breaks if I hit 'Enter' (e.g., it starts renumbering at 1), but I need to insert two lines of text inside of the 
 tag.
[20:28:28] 	Any suggestions, even?
[20:28:57] 	rgsteele: the short answer is, multiline 
 inside a # or * list doesn't work correctly
[20:29:15] 	but 
 works great :)
[20:29:22] 	brion: Bummer
[20:29:58] 	brion: Right, but I need it inside of a 
 tag (it's got code in it)
[20:30:09] 	brion: I appreciate the answer, though :)
[20:30:32] 	well, a 
  1.  list might work :P :)
[20:30:50] 	yes it does: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Duesentrieb/Sandbox
[20:30:58] 	sucks, though
[20:31:29] 	Duesentrieb: What's the source look like?
[20:31:55] 	html
[20:32:00] 	rgsteele: look and see
[20:35:11] 	Duesentrieb: Thanks
[20:35:27] 	Duesentrieb: (wasn't sure if mediawiki displayed all the formatting stuff as plain html)
[20:42:06] 	Biron, you can't think of any other reason why my PATH might not be set... Can't I update the render.ml file and include the full path to executables (which I tried before...) thats should change the out put I get from this new test php script?
[20:42:40] 	I don't understand how create an index for main text pages in mysql5. Is someone can give me his commands to generate it ?
[20:43:39] 	Also I suppose Icould link my binaries in /usr/bin also...
[20:44:01] 	Klemo: how about simply renaming texvc and writing a bash script called texvc, and do all the path stuff in there? should be trivial enough
[20:44:53] 	true... However, putting the env stuff in the LocalSettings file should be trivial enough...
[20:45:14] 	but that doesnt work, for what ever reason...
[20:45:59] 	Klemo: do you have full error reporting enabled for php?
[20:46:14] 	perhaps it denies you access to this functionality (safemode or some such cruft)
[20:46:19] 	I believe so let me check
[20:46:25] 	hrm...
[20:46:46] 	thats in the php.ini file right...
[20:48:56] 	ok this is really funny...
[20:49:42] 	as another test I added the env stuff from my local settings file into the test math php script... Now the commands are in the path, and the png gets created in images/math...
[20:50:01] 	does that mean I can just add the env stuff to the includes/Math.php script?
[20:50:39] 	Then I can for go hunting down why MediaWiki will not honor the env stuff in the LocalSettings file
[20:51:46] 	heh.. thats a big negitory
[20:51:56] 	still get the error on mediawiki... what the frick!
[20:53:43] 	o_O
[20:53:55] 	Klemo: make sure you're actually re-rendering the math
[20:54:01] 	try an edit preview for instance
[20:54:12] 	just hitting 'reload' on the page won't usually do anything, since it's cached
[20:54:25] 	even putting in the explisot path in the render.ml does not help the media wiki side... 
[20:54:28] 	nobody makes index in mysql here ? oO
[20:54:32] 	yeah I've been clicking edit then save...
[20:55:03] 	even the preview has the error
[20:55:32] 	03(mod) Automatic categorization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10811  (10eep)
[20:56:07] 	ok...
[20:57:27] 	as another test, I removed the ENV stuff from my test php script. changed the render.ml to point to whole path /sw/bin/gs etc, ran make to rebuild texvc and ran my script again, It did NOT make the png file...
[20:58:25] 	if I recall I had an error the first time I built texvc and each time i've rebuilt texvc the error does not show... let me clean it out and build it fresh again and see what the error is...
[20:58:47] 	crazzy
[20:59:27] 	I just do 'make' right, no configure or make world, bs
[21:00:14] 	here is the questionable output... its just a warning though...
[21:00:16] 	File "texvc_test.ml", line 11, characters 13-16:
[21:00:18] 	Warning Y: unused variable out.
[21:01:41] 	here is the line its complaining about...
[21:01:43] 	            let out = Util.mapjoin Texutil.render_tex tree in
[21:01:53] 	13-16 is the 'out ' portion
[21:03:15] 	that does not look like anything that would hinder the process... plus we know texvc works because I can use at the command line and in the test math script...
[21:04:06] 	03(mod) Upgrade installed DynamicPageList on NL-WB - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10807  (10londenp)
[21:09:58] 	Betacommand: ping?
[21:21:51] 	03(NEW) RAR concatenation in images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10847 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (lilewyn)
[21:28:06] 	03(mod) RAR concatenation in images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10847  (10brion)
[21:33:32] 	when an article is moved, does it get a new page_id?
[21:38:03] 	jimbojw: no
[21:38:19] 	thanks brion
[21:39:47] 	03(mod) Automatic categorization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10811  (10robchur)
[21:41:02] 	brion: I left a comment on that "automatic categorisation" bug; the extension linked doesn't seem very useful, nor does the concept.
[21:41:08] *NotACat 	makes robchurch a nice cup of tea and hopes his birthday was congenial
[21:41:45] 	It was acceptable.
[21:41:45] 	\o/
[21:41:55] *brion 	welcomes robchurch to the land of the old
[21:42:19] 	You're two days late, brion.
[21:42:25] 	heh...you youngsters and your fancy ideas;)
[21:42:26] 	hi Rob!
[21:42:34] 	how are ya?
[21:43:00] 	Fine, I suppose.
[21:43:21] 	robchurch: a more useful idea than whateverTF the eep guy is wittering about might be to automagically add pages using a given extension to a maintenance category...
[21:43:22] 	doyou have a few mins...I have a question that i would like to ask off list
[21:43:36] 	crazygovemployee: Feel free to ask it.
[21:44:01] *robchurch 	always gets nervous about these government employees
[21:44:26] 	One day, I'm going to be arrested, extradited, and dragged into a tiny room with only a laptop and forced to do some MediaWiki development or risk a short spell in Guantanamo Bay. ;)
[21:44:43] 	ha!
[21:44:46] 	robchurch: i'm old, my reaction time is slow
[21:44:53] 	you want no part of gitmo...trust me
[21:46:48] 	brion: There there.
[21:47:48] 	hi
[21:48:01] 	someone can help me to install mediawiki?
[21:48:04] 	I have an error
[21:48:29] 	brion: when writing the gadgets extension, i wondered if there's a way to have the message cache store a parsed version of a message that is used on pretty much every page view. Parsed, that is, in my own special way, not wikitext parsed.
[21:49:00] 	?
[21:49:05] 	rom1v: Ask.
[21:49:08] 	Warning: require_once(install-utils.inc) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /mnt/149/sda/b/a/myfreetv/wiki/config/index.php on line 43
[21:49:11] 	Duesentrieb: Er, just cache it in $wgMemc ?
[21:49:13] 	Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'install-utils.inc' (include_path='/mnt/149/sda/b/a/myfreetv/include:.:/usr/php5/lib/php') in /mnt/149/sda/b/a/myfreetv/wiki/config/index.php on line 43
[21:49:24] 	rom1v: Is the file (install-utils.inc) there?
[21:49:32] 	on the page : wiki/config/index.php
[21:49:36] 	I juste downloaded the .tar.gz
[21:49:38] 	and extract
[21:49:44] 	and upload to my ftp server
[21:49:45] 	robchurch: but that isn't purged automatically when the message is changed, is it? or how would i go about getting that effect, efficiently?
[21:49:49] 	nothing else
[21:49:50] 	hrmf
[21:50:05] 	weeell
[21:50:15] 	mebbe you can hook in somethin :P
[21:50:27] 	Duesentrieb: The job of the message cache is to cache the raw message, is it not? If you want to do some other transformation, then you can store that in the general object cache.
[21:50:28] 	the various blacklists do invalidation on page save for their message page, it sort of works
[21:50:34] 	I tried twice
[21:50:35] 	03(mod) Automatic categorization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10811  (10eep)
[21:50:41] 	the same problem appears
[21:50:49] 	You could probably quite easily hook on page edit and do a straight invalidation there.
[21:50:55] 	Oh, that reminds me
[21:51:05] 	brion: Thanks for poking UsernameBlacklist. :)
[21:51:10] 	whee
[21:51:10] 	robchurch: it would be handy if you could attach "variants" to the message cache. seems consistant form a design pov too, imho
[21:51:14] 	http://myfreetv.free.fr/wiki/config/index.php
[21:51:19] 	rom1v: what mw version?
[21:51:26] 	the last
[21:51:34] 	Well, maybe. But then you're talking about slightly changing the purpose of the cache.
[21:51:36] 	mediawiki-1.10.1.tar.gz
[21:51:52] 	Is there a real difficulty in rolling a simple intermediate layer?
[21:51:54] 	brion, robchurch: i'll have to look into hooking into the edit stuff. but it's ugly. a mechanism for purging message cache is already there...
[21:52:03] 	rom1v: can you check if open_basedir or safe_mode etc options are on in php config?
[21:52:17] 	hmmm.... I have no access to php configuration
[21:52:26] 	robchurch: yes, i have been thinking the cache should be smarter...
[21:52:31] 	http://myfreetv.free.fr/info.php
[21:52:37] 	except phpinfo ^
[21:52:38] 	Smarter in what way?
[21:52:42] 	but I can't change
[21:53:07] 	You're talking about caching arbitrary transformations of a message, which means different data semantics from what the message cache stores.
[21:53:10] 	your safe mode is on... hard to say if that's a prob
[21:53:35] 	include_path looks like it should be ok
[21:53:38] 	not sure what's the prob there
[21:53:49] 	can you confirm that you have install-utils.inc there?
[21:54:03] 	it should be in the main wiki dir, above config/
[21:54:12] 	robchurch: not changed, but extended. 
[21:54:13] 	please wait, I check
[21:54:37] 	yes install-utils.inc
[21:54:40] 	it is
[21:54:42] 	there
[21:55:42] 	I really don't see a large number of potential uses, to be honest.
[21:55:56] 	true
[21:56:15] 	the only potential use is abuse of system messages, like sidebar, licenses, etc
[21:56:26] 	messages that define a structure using some special syntax
[21:56:47] 	hi, does anyone know any good tutorials for how to set up an SMTP server to work with media wiki on Windows XP? or in general how to send emails from MediaWiki running on a WAMP server?
[21:56:52] 	Well, in theory we could have some kind of straightforward caching layer.
[21:56:54] 	can u see what is my problem?
[21:57:07] 	I do see what you mean.
[21:57:28] 	"This is the data structure I want you to store for the sidebar, and you should invalidate it if 'sidebar' is changed."
[21:57:36] 	exactly
[21:57:53] 	03(mod)  We do not reject mismatched file types on upload for many extensions. Ogg, pdf, mid, sx*, svg, xcf. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10823  (10brion)
[21:57:56] 	That still wouldn't really be something the message cache does, though.
[21:58:19] 	my personal recommendation is to take those structured things *out* of the mediawiki message space
[21:58:33] 	brion: Well, that would be my preference as well.
[21:58:39] 	it's very hacky and causes all sorts of minor annoyances, as well as just being generally hard to edit :)
[21:58:41] 	robchurch: well, it's linked to page invalidation in a similar way. but there similarity ends, i guess.
[21:58:51] 	Shove it in a table and provide a nice, easy editor via special page.
[21:58:57] 	might be good to add a new infrastructure for storing, editing, and caching such data
[21:59:15] 	yea... but i'm not gonna :)
[21:59:28] 	Well, it strikes me that there's code duplication between the username and spam blacklists, which might as well be core.
[21:59:41] 	hm, wait... we have a general object cache...
[22:00:06] 	You could certainly use a regular expression blacklist class. "Check the blacklist", "show an editor" - editor handles stuff, and can tell the user if their entry is malformed, or even let them test something against the blacklist.
[22:00:11] 	so, all that is needed is a general trigger/glue thingy, that ties cache keys to page names, for automatic invalidation
[22:00:15] 	robchurch: *nod*
[22:00:20] 	can someone can help me please :)
[22:00:28] 	for the installation
[22:00:39] 	currently, i simply ignore malformed lines :)
[22:00:52] 	rom1v: if brion can't help you, no one can :)
[22:01:02] 	Not quite sure how a general infrastructure might work for anything else; if you're storing a specialist structure, you'll want some other table structure.
[22:01:04] 	moment
[22:01:29] 	Still, the common regex blacklist thing is worth toying with.
[22:01:31] 	ok :)
[22:01:40] 	robchurch: naw, i just need a serialized php struct. an extra table just for my use would be overkill, and useless
[22:01:59] 	Duesentrieb: Then in the mean time, I advise rolling your own intermediate caching mechanism.
[22:02:02] 	there's no meaning to "querying" taht data
[22:02:23] 	robchurch: yea - use generic object cache, use some hook to purge on edit.
[22:03:02] 	Yes. Although if the cache is because it's expensive to do, then use $parserMemc, which is usually guaranteed to be an instanceof BagOStuff.
[22:03:23] 	ah hmmm i think i see
[22:03:37] 	robchurch: this can be generalized: on page-save, run a hook that looks up a list of cache keys to purge for the page in question.
[22:03:55] 	Of course, if the overhead of maintaining such a cache is higher than just regenerating the item afresh, then don't cache it.
[22:04:03] 	(Which is an axiom I've nicknamed Domas' law. :P)
[22:04:10] 	hehe
[22:04:17] 	rom1v: ok, it looks like your host doesn't allow setting include_path inside the script
[22:04:24] 	lemme see if i can whip up a fix for that quick
[22:04:32] 	well, i *guess* cachign would be good. would need a benchmark, though
[22:04:39] 	Duesentrieb: Well, yes, but then there's brion's idea, which I agree with, about not storing most of this stuff in messages in the first place.
[22:04:46] 	what can I do?
[22:04:56] 	rom1v: sit tight while i test this :)
[22:05:12] 	robchurch: in general, i agree too. but i'm not up to writing major infrastructure atm.
[22:05:53] 	Yeah, but no point in writing a generalised architecture that won't actually be used by anything else; the existing abusers (sidebar, username blacklist, spam blacklist) already maintain their own caches fine.
[22:06:25] 	right.
[22:06:40] 	otoh, just keeping reqriting that part over and over doesn't make things better
[22:07:10] 	No, but then again, if we introduce a whole new temporary architecture for caching that stuff, you create a backwards compatibility problem.
[22:07:58] 	currently, i'm just proposing a centralized infrastructure for purging stuff from object cache on page edits.
[22:07:59] 	Still, it's an interesting idea, I guess, but I suppose I'd prefer to just kill two birds with one stone.
[22:08:18] 	Well, that's a simple question of dealing with hooks, isn't it?
[22:08:24] 	sure
[22:08:41] 	Call a hook when a page is edited and keep an array of cache keys. Then invalidate them.
[22:08:41] 	the question is - do i just do it for myself, or in a reusable way?
[22:08:50] *robchurch 	shrugs
[22:08:52] 	yep
[22:09:12] 	anyway, thanks for the input guys :)
[22:09:24] 	would it be safe to say that such a hook could be built from other hooks? meaning, could an extension be written to create the proposed hook?
[22:09:58] 	if so, then backwards compatibility can be achieved by requiring the hook-creation extension
[22:10:08] 	for older versions
[22:10:32] 	rom1v: ok sec...
[22:10:41] 	:)
[22:10:48] 	Duesentrieb: such a hook would probably also have to execute on article purge I'd think
[22:12:11] 	jimbojw: yes. 
[22:12:24] 	rom1v: can you try applying this change set? http://leuksman.com/misc/config-test.diff
[22:12:34] 	or i can send you the full file if that's not convenient for you
[22:12:50] 	yes, or juste the command to apply the diff
[22:12:52] 	to the finle
[22:12:53] 	file
[22:13:24] 	patch -p0 < blah usually works
[22:14:07] 	so for this file specificly?
[22:14:20] 	(I never used "patch" yet)
[22:14:26] 	but I would like to discover :)
[22:14:45] 	cd /path/to/mediawiki/config
[22:14:52] 	patch -p0 < /path/to/diff/file
[22:15:07] 	ok thx I try
[22:17:54] 	rom@rom-laptop:~/Desktop/mediawiki-1.10.1/config$ patch -p0 /home/rom/Desktop/config-test.diff
[22:17:57] 	and nothing...
[22:18:05] 	<
[22:18:08] 	oups
[22:18:08] 	not " "
[22:18:09] 	lol
[22:18:09] 	:)
[22:18:34] 	can't find file to patch at input line 5
[22:18:34] 	Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[22:18:34] 	The text leading up to this was:
[22:18:34] 	--------------------------
[22:18:34] 	|Index: config/index.php
[22:18:35] 	|===================================================================
[22:18:37] 	|--- config/index.php   (revision 24689)
[22:18:39] 	|+++ config/index.php   (working copy)
[22:18:41] 	--------------------------
[22:18:43] 	File to patch:           
[22:19:35] 	Oh, try executing from the directory one level up.
[22:19:39] 	i.e. cd /path/to/mediawiki
[22:19:46] 	:P
[22:19:48] 	patching is fun :D
[22:19:54] 	patching file config/index.php
[22:19:55] 	ok:)
[22:19:59] 	I upload the patched file
[22:20:17] 	how do you genere a .diff file
[22:20:19] 	from 2 files?
[22:20:20] 	Patching people is fun. With a claw hammer and a bone saw.
[22:21:09] 	http://myfreetv.free.fr/wiki/config/index.php
[22:21:10] 	:(
[22:21:50] 	blah
[22:22:40] 	rom1v: ok also try changing the line in includes/DefaultSettings.php
[22:22:41] 	to:
[22:22:41] 	require_once( "$IP/includes/SiteConfiguration.php" );
[22:22:55] 	from: require_once( 'includes/SiteConfiguration.php' );
[22:23:09] 	if that's not the last of them you might have to track down more
[22:23:20] 	this is nicer in 1.11, i already fixed most of the ones left :)
[22:25:22] 	http://myfreetv.free.fr/wiki/
[22:25:37] 	even the first page doesn't work now :(
[22:25:43] 	rom1v: you need the double quotes
[22:25:44] 	"
[22:25:45] 	not '
[22:26:53] 	require_once( "$IP/includes/SiteConfiguration.php" );
[22:26:56] 	but no changes
[22:27:01] 	http://myfreetv.free.fr/wiki/
[22:27:20] 	ah yee
[22:27:23] 	cache effect
[22:27:27] 	Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /mnt/149/sda/b/a/myfreetv/wiki/includes/MagicWord.php on line 341
[22:27:30] 	well, that's more worrying :)
[22:27:30] 	http://myfreetv.free.fr/wiki/config/index.php
[22:27:56] 	broken file upload maybe?
[22:28:21] 	you want that I upload MagicWord.php again?
[22:28:39] 	is my english comprehensible or very bad? :)
[22:29:35] 	I re-uploaded
[22:30:00] 	you sure?
[22:30:08] 	the ftp server is awful, timeout should be 20 secondes !
[22:30:10] 	seconds
[22:31:32] 	\o/
[22:32:13] 	thank you very much
[22:32:14] 	:)
[22:32:52] 	lemme know if it actually works when you run it :D
[22:33:59] 	ok :)
[22:34:38] 	Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /mnt/149/sda/b/a/myfreetv/wiki/includes/Parser.php on line 1047
[22:34:38] 	03(mod) RAR concatenation in images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10847  +comment (10Alkivar)
[22:34:39] 	:(
[22:34:55] 	#  exists
[22:34:55] 	# Creating tables... done.
[22:34:55] 	# Initializing data...
[22:34:55] 	# Created sysop account ®om.
[22:34:55] 	Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /mnt/149/sda/b/a/myfreetv/wiki/includes/Parser.php on line 1047
[22:35:02] 	arf maybe
[22:35:04] 	reupload parser
[22:35:07] 	rom1v: more bad uploads, yeah
[22:36:12] 	\o/
[22:37:24] 	03brion * r24690 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES config/index.php): 
[22:37:24] 	* Make installer include_path-independent, so it should work on hosts which
[22:37:24] 	 disable user setting of PHP include_path setting
[22:38:18] 	03(mod) RAR concatenation in images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10847  (10brion)
[22:39:57] 	hmmm.... brion, I configured the wiki, then download LocalSettings.php, then put it /wiki directory
[22:40:06] 	and when I go to my wiki page, I have to REconfigure-it
[22:40:08] 	?
[22:42:32] 	ah the second time seems to be good
[22:42:32] 	:)
[22:43:18] *VoiceOfAll 	plays with opera skins
[22:44:06] 	is it possible to change the "wiki name"
[22:44:08] 	after installation?
[22:45:28] 	yeah
[22:45:35] 	A little bug, once connected: Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /mnt/149/sda/b/a/myfreetv/wiki/languages/Language.php on line 343
[22:45:35] 	edit it in LocalSettings.php
[22:45:41] 	ok thx
[22:46:48] 	hmm
[22:48:13] 	do u have a jabber address?
[22:48:39] 	rom1v: try making a php script w/ 
[22:48:43] 	what's the output?
[22:49:13] 	sorry, I didn't understand
[22:49:33] 	a new script?
[22:49:37] 	w/ = without?
[22:51:23] 	?
[22:51:30] 	with
[22:51:42] 	so I create a file with only this line?
[22:52:38] 	bool(false)
[22:52:51] 	w/ = with
[22:52:58] 	yes. hmm ok
[22:53:00] *brion 	stabs php
[22:53:21] 	ok (an old abbrviation for without ("sans" in french) was w/)
[22:53:22] 	:)
[22:53:34] 	agh! les foux français :P
[22:54:35] 	:)
[22:55:01] 	the message disappeared
[22:55:05] 	but it's "random"
[22:55:14] 	oh, reappered
[22:55:18] 	in preferences page
[22:55:24] 	yeah, it's probably something weird about your system :P
[22:55:31] 	lemme get a workaround
[22:55:41] 	ok
[22:55:46] 	have you got a jabber address?
[22:56:01] 	because I'll go to bed
[22:56:15] 	or other im
[22:56:32] 	.oO(brion's in a good mood today)
[22:56:49] 	this'll only take a couple minutes :)
[22:56:54] 	ok
[22:56:58] 	I wait
[22:57:07] 	(it's your fault if I'm tired tomorrow at work !)
[22:57:24] 	I'm come back in 2 minutes
[22:57:27] 	:P
[22:57:31] 	I come back...
[22:58:10] 	rom1v: man, you got mediawiki's lead dev doing custom patches for you here. enjoy it while it lasts :)
[23:01:59] 	I'm back
[23:01:59] 	:D
[23:02:03] 	it's great :)
[23:02:11] 	all these things will be fixed in the next release?:
[23:02:19] 	because if I need to reinstall o_O
[23:02:20] 	:)
[23:02:43] 	try this one: http://leuksman.com/misc/lang-tweak.diff
[23:02:51] 	oh no... a diff file :)
[23:02:54] 	sorry
[23:02:56] 	:)
[23:07:13] 	ok it works
[23:07:14] 	:)
[23:07:17] 	thx
[23:07:26] 	all these things will be fixed in the next release?:
[23:07:26] 	00:02
[23:07:26] 	»
[23:07:26] 	because if I need to reinstall o_O
[23:07:27] 	woohoo
[23:07:28] 	?
[23:07:32] 	\o/
[23:08:00] 	lol ftp server sucks, the time I write the command, there's a timeout
[23:08:04] 	about 20 seconds...
[23:09:01] 	ok both of those things should be fixed in 1.11 :)
[23:09:06] 	cool
[23:09:07] 	i've just committed the workaround
[23:09:07] 	03brion * r24691 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/Language.php): 
[23:09:07] 	* glob() is horribly unreliable and doesn't work on some systems, including
[23:09:07] 	 free.fr shared hosting. No longer using it in Language::getLanguageNames()
[23:09:15] 	aaaaand that's enough work for one day
[23:09:16] 	gnight :)
[23:09:24] 	:)
[23:09:38] 	I will be able to start the documentation
[23:09:40] 	on the wiki :)
[23:09:46] 	tomorrow, if I have time
[23:09:58] 	good luck!
[23:10:01] 	thx
[23:10:06] 	I never used a wiki
[23:10:15] 	I have never use a wiki
[23:10:19] 	(is that sentence better?)
[23:10:19] 	:)
[23:10:51] 	:D
[23:10:56] 	'i have never used a wiki'
[23:11:00] 	english is silly :P
[23:11:01] 	ok :D
[23:11:03] 	gnight
[23:14:28] 	bye
[23:14:29] 	++
[23:30:26] 	03(mod) Replace normal spaces before percent (%) signs with non-breaking spaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10334  +comment (10l8qjvx002)
[23:44:27] *Klemo 	pulls the knife from PHP's back...
[23:44:32] 	Biron, leave PHP alone...
[23:44:36] 	heh
[23:44:49] 	I have to bug out today... I'll be back tomorrow for more MATH trhoubleshooting help
[23:45:07] 	help = fun
[23:45:09] 	hahaha
[23:45:11] 	thanks guys
[23:56:34] <[reed]>	Is there another reason why inline external images wouldn't work besides $wgAllowExternalImages being false? I have $wgAllowExternalImages set to true, but I'm still not seeing inline external images.