[00:02:08] 03(mod) Suggestion searching - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7288 (10rainman) [00:14:48] Duesentrieb: ok, I've read that and successfully uploaded a small smaple file. But the content I need to put there is a 77mb wav file. I have shell access to the server and copied my big file over the small uploaded file, hoping I could bypass the upload limits that way. But so far that does not seem to be working for me. Any ideas? [00:14:50] <_Danny_B_> what kind of regexp is used on black/whitelists? [00:16:13] _Danny_B_: At a guess, I'd say PHP PREG [00:20:27] 03(mod) Typo in Japanese translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10888 normal->high (10hnezumi) [00:26:54] Anyone: ok, I've read an article recommended here a few minutes ago; and successfully uploaded a small smaple file. But the content I need to put there is a 77mb wav file. I have shell access to the server and copied my big file over the small uploaded file, hoping I could bypass the upload limits that way. But so far that does not seem to be working for me. Any ideas? [00:27:37] will mediawiki only relate to an .ogg file? [00:33:35] Halp - My 'broken redirects' page has an error about "Unknown column 'pl_namespace' in 'on clause'". I don't know how long it's been like that, I just stumbled upon it recently. How do I add it into my database? [00:33:40] http://www.srb2wiki.sepwich.com/index.php?title=Special:BrokenRedirects [00:41:14] Oh well, wasn't that important anyways. Shame on me for not submitting a bug report. [00:53:18] hesco: You may be able to use the image import script in maintenance/ even though it's not an image. Never tried. [01:02:01] how do you delete article revision? [01:06:10] I'm having a problem getting MediaWiki to use the MediaWiki:Common.css style sheet at all. It has content but it constantly seems to be returning just the first comment line. It wants to pull it from /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&usemsgcache=yes&action=raw&ctype=text/css&smaxage=18000 [01:07:21] And I see the "usemsgcache=yes" and wonder if it's trying to pull from a cache. I DID have a file based cache enabled before but I commented that out. Plus this may have stopped working a while back. Also, the subdomain for the wiki did change at one point, but I do not know if the css stopped working right after that or not [01:09:35] 03rotem * r24736 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update. [01:11:22] Oh, n/m. It was a DIFFERENT caching option apparently -.- [01:28:56] 03(mod) Mailing list for nds Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 (10wm-thunderhead) [01:34:18] 03(WONTFIX) Moving no.wikinews into a Scandinavian version - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 +comment (10wm-thunderhead) [01:34:48] hmm [01:35:01] I am having problem with mediawiki extension spamblacklist [01:35:14] 03(mod) Moving no.wikinews into a Scandinavian version - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 (10wm-thunderhead) [01:43:08] I've uploaded a small sample audio file, creating a new page at: http://brpp.campaignfoundations.com/index.php?title=Image:Brpp-hrg-20070714.ogg. It includes a link to: http://brpp.campaignfoundations.com/images/0/0d/Brpp-hrg-20070714.ogg, which gives me a 404 error. Any ideas? [02:00:55] hmm [02:01:00] I fixed mine [02:01:22] hesco: must be a .htaccess issue [02:39:02] I'm in rewrite engine hell... or something [02:40:48] when I click the MW login button, instead of going to http://dev.keikinetwork.biz/en/Special:Userlogin [02:41:10] it goes to: http://dev.keikinetwork.biz/en/dev.keikinetwork.bizdev.keikinetwork.biz/en/dev.keikinetwork.bizdev.keikinetwork.biz/en/Dev.keikinetwork.bizdev.keikinetwork.biz/en/dev.keikinetwork.bizdev.keikinetwork.biz/en/Dev.keikinetwork.bizdev.keikinetwork.biz/en/dev.keikinetwork.bizdev.keikinetwork.biz/en/Dev.keikinetwork.bizdev.keikinetwork.biz/en/Special:Userlogin [02:41:29] like a recursive rewrite or something [02:41:51] Any hints on where to look to fix this? [02:49:34] 03(NEW) Database error - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10899 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: DynamicPageList2; (eep) [02:53:45] 03(NEW) Various enhancement requests - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10900 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: DynamicPageList2; (eep) [02:57:03] 03(NEW) numbered lists not working correctly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10901 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (dannychia) [03:45:35] 03(mod) Sanitizer damages block content (especially
    ) in output when preceded by unclosed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10901 normal->major; normal->high; summary; +comment (10danny_b) [03:46:10] 03(mod) Sanitizer damages block content (especially
      ) in output when wrapped in - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10901 summary (10danny_b) [03:47:04] <_Danny_B_> 10901 is really terrible bug [03:54:20] 03(mod) Your "login" line should say "email address" because that' s all that works - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10895 +comment (10danny_b) [04:03:16] <_Danny_B_> looks like the parser or sanitizer became crazy [04:03:47] 03(mod) Your "login" line should say "email address" because that' s all that works - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10895 +comment (10fearow00) [04:05:43] 03aaron * r24737 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount_body.php: *Remove ampersand [04:08:46] 03(mod) (First) list items not properly formatted in ordered lists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10893 +comment (10danny_b) [04:21:23] 03(mod) Wikitext in list items written in HTML not properly parsed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10893 15enhancement->normal; summary; +comment (10danny_b) [04:26:14] Apparentally my bot is mangling up the edit tokens, but I cant see anything wrong. It looks identical (apart from the acharacters) to the one in my browser, and its sending it exactly as its receiving it. What could be the issue? [04:30:31] 03(mod) Change the - char from 'ndash' to 'minus' - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10891 +comment (10danny_b) [04:35:04] Woot :) I had to URLEncode the edit token - that needs to be documented somewhere. [04:36:08] 03(mod) Changed/Updated since my last visit feature doesn' t reflect on my last visit - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10884 summary (10danny_b) [04:54:51] 03(FIXED) Enable subpages for "Help" namespace on German Wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10725 +comment (10jeluf) [04:59:01] 03(FIXED) Set sitename for Mongolian Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10825 +comment (10jeluf) [05:01:46] 03(FIXED) Mongolian Wikipedia Logo Change - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10841 +comment (10jeluf) [05:03:07] is there a list of hooks available in mediawiki? [05:03:27] I've seen a few hooks used (when installing extensions) [05:03:48] I was wondering if I can move them [05:04:33] (for instance, articletocategory extension adds a small form to a category page that lets you add an article to that category [05:04:56] it gets added to the category article text, I'm wondering if it can be put in the 'articles in this category' section instead [05:06:57] 03(FIXED) Enable subpages on the Incubator - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10749 +comment (10jeluf) [05:12:39] 03(FIXED) Search namespaces 106 and 108 by default in French Wikiversity - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10804 +comment (10jeluf) [05:19:32] 03(FIXED) Enable subpages in template namespace for french wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10792 +comment (10jeluf) [05:23:21] 03(FIXED) Set project namespace for Greek Wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10844 +comment (10jeluf) [05:30:19] 06(LATER) Give unique favicons to Wikibooks, Wiktionary and Wikiversity - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6096 +comment (10jeluf) [05:37:59] 03(mod) Mongolian Wikipedia Logo Change - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10841 (10jeluf) [05:37:59] 14(DUP) Mongolian Wikipedia Logo Change - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10599 +comment (10jeluf) [05:48:15] hi! I was wondering if anyone would be interested in helping take a website theme and converting it to a Media Wiki skin. It's for an Open Source Project called "Thousand Parsec", http://www.thousandparsec.net/ [05:50:09] 03(mod) Your "login" line should say "email address" because that' s all that works - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10895 (10shinjiman) [05:50:42] mmm.... for the bug 10895, I would think the bug might be WONFIXing, anyone agree with that? [05:50:55] mmm.... for the bug 10895, I would think the bug might be "WONTFIXing", anyone agree with that? [06:07:39] 03(NEW) IP contribs - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10902 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (Winbots) [06:08:10] 03(FIXED) Set logo for Novial Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10483 +comment (10jeluf) [06:29:22] 03aaron * r24738 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialImport.php: *Update page_latest to reflect the null revision, like protection and such do. This was causing issues with revisiondelete mixing the top and second to the top edits [06:30:31] bah [06:30:48] *VoiceOfAll sighs at 10902 [06:45:40] 04(REOPENED) Set project namespace for Greek Wikibooks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10844 +comment (10ariel) [06:50:35] 03(mod) Install "Quiz" extension on en.wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10889 +shell (10fearow00) [07:25:01] Ok, apparently I lost my Setup.php file [07:25:03] What do I do? [07:27:45] Oh crap, nevermind, my localsettings just died on me [07:27:50] NOW what do I do? [07:31:20] phuzion, i'm not sure..but may be you can re-add the files again then do an upgrade? [07:31:59] i'm considering just dumping the database to sql, dropping it, then re-installing mediawiki [07:34:10] But the thing is, we have over 10,000 images uploaded, and re-copying them would be the biggest pain in the ass ever. [07:52:46] 03raymond * r24739 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesKk_cn.php MessagesKk_kz.php MessagesKk_tr.php): [07:52:46] * (bug 10367) Update Kazakh translations [07:52:46] Patch by AlefZet [07:53:18] 03(FIXED) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [08:06:32] moin. [08:06:54] redirecting works, e.g. #redirect [[foo]] or #redirect [[#bar]]. [08:07:14] the syntax [[foo#bar]] however does not seem to work [08:07:37] I want a page to redirect to [[foo#bar]], is that still possible? ;) [08:08:41] Like, auto-scroll to the heading of bar, right? [08:09:11] yes [08:09:28] i.e. redirect to foo, and then go to the section == bar == [08:09:35] right [08:09:43] i'm not sure [08:09:47] the result is broken [08:09:50] example: [08:10:18] try putting the unicode in for the # symbol in the redirect [08:10:19] that might work [08:10:33] look at http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Development/Tutorials/Kross-Tutorial&redirect=no [08:10:38] i.e. edit it to see it. [08:10:45] and then remove the redirect [08:11:00] the result: Kross-Tutorial##Kross (i.e. two #) [08:11:28] maybe foo%23bar will work [08:11:30] try that [08:11:49] Hi [08:12:05] phuzion: whee. works [08:12:20] Awesome [08:12:21] phuzion: thanks a lot, that's really good [08:12:22] I was wondering, is it possible to give a wiki page a "friendly" title [08:12:27] thats different to the URL [08:13:03] You mean have site.com/wiki/Foo be the URL then FooBar be the title? [08:13:09] yep [08:13:21] Hmm, do you want to do this site-wide, or just for one page? [08:13:33] site wide, I'm going to need this on a lot of pages [08:13:38] Hmm [08:13:49] Describe what you're doing with it a little further [08:14:02] phuzion: ok, I got something wrong maybe, it still does not work. [08:14:06] heh :) [08:14:18] http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Development/Tutorials/Kross-Tutorial [08:14:34] well my site is comprised of guides, an URL would be "Split:S1" but I want the title of the page to be something like "Sonic 1 Split Guide (Split:S1)" [08:14:53] it's just so I can have lots of things under the Split: prefix to keep it tidy [08:15:12] Tried using Categories? [08:15:43] It works now, dhaumann [08:15:50] well I could, but I prefer the idea of it in the URL as well [08:16:04] is there any sort of mediawiki mod that allows this? [08:16:28] phuzion: I changed the redirect now to redirect to something else. withouth # in it. [08:16:36] 03(mod) Restrict media upload to autoconfirmed users on it.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10640 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10chemicalbit) [08:16:39] I still think mediawiki has a small bug here ;) [08:17:00] file a bug report then [08:17:15] where is the bug tracker? :) [08:17:24] bugzilla.wikimedia.org [08:17:28] lol it was just posted a second ago by the bot =p [08:17:31] yeah [08:17:34] ah [08:17:35] lol :) [08:19:27] so anyway phuzion, I take it what I'm trying to do isn't really supported? [08:25:36] hi, can I place my own table below "Toolbox"? [08:29:14] EK_123: MediaWiki:Sidebar [08:31:47] hmm, that is the navigation bar, I was actually talking about the toolbox [08:32:12] well, you can hack the skin always [08:32:42] yeah ok, can you show me where to start? [08:33:16] look for guides for making templates to gain an understanding of how they are put together [08:33:22] that'd be my suggestion [08:34:30] i dont think programming would be the problem [08:34:47] just want to now which files to adjust [08:35:20] EK_123: skins/MonoBook.php would be the one I suggest [08:35:32] thank you m8 [08:36:03] Hello....How do I embed an external image into an article? [08:36:30] I was wondering this myself earlier actually =p [08:36:37] i tried [08:36:39] and it worked for the first image, but after that all of the images came out the same, even though they are different images [08:36:59] just enable external images in your config [08:37:01] lol [08:37:29] and then use [Image:http://www.whatever.com/image] ? [08:38:23] well, im working with FCKeditor, so I dont have that problem [08:38:41] im not sure which wikicode to use for that [08:39:27] where do you enable external images? [08:39:36] I can't see anything in localsettings.php [08:40:05] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAllowExternalImages [08:40:20] set $wgAllowExternalImages = true; in your LocalSettings.php [08:40:22] 03(NEW) fragments / anchors in redirect links do not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10903 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (dhdev) [08:41:02] there it is ^^ [08:41:18] ;-) [08:42:29] thanks [08:45:11] Jack_Phoenix, great thnx for the answer. I already made my own toolbox below the orginal one :D [08:45:26] 14(WFM) fragments / anchors in redirect links do not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10903 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [08:45:30] ah, good to hear :) [08:51:08] 03(mod) Suggestion searching - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7288 (10speedblue) [08:59:17] 03nikerabbit * r24740 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesHsb.php): * Updates to Upper Sorbian (hsb) by Dundak and Michawiki [09:02:16] but yeah it sucks there's no [Title:*] tag or anything [09:04:42] Hi all. I want to add a page named 'c++' to wiki, but when I add the link to a page such as '[[c++]]', it can't be parsed to a internal link, am I wrong? [09:07:23] fog_proxy: you tried [[c++|C++]] ? [09:07:26] or something [09:07:46] Qjimbo: just [[c++]] [09:08:03] yeah, try my idea, might work [09:08:16] Qjimbo: and [[c++|C++]] also not work [09:08:18] Why can't i put HTML into a temlate? [09:08:35] I'm sure wikipedia probably would have faced the same issue so it might be an idea to look at the source of their C++ articles [09:08:46] current articles are "C plus plus" [09:08:48] **template [09:09:04] GBenemy: because if we let people do that, people could put any old HTML in there. [09:09:37] chat-de-plafond: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C++ [09:10:05] chat-de-plafond How can I put it in? I'm sysop...and I don't want to have to type out the html on every bloody page [09:10:12] i just want to use a template [09:10:28] aah [09:10:31] Qjimbo: wikipedia support that form, and it just use '[[c++]]'. so I think there should be some change of the config or source. By the way, my mediawiki version is 1.6.8, because my system enviroment, I can only use that version [09:10:37] fog_proxy: {{main|C++}} [09:10:41] try that [09:10:41] GBenemy: you don't use html, use wikitext. [09:10:50] which is? [09:11:00] that's a pretty broad question [09:11:06] atm i'm using tags [09:11:11] and it works fine in articles [09:11:31] but when i put it in a template it just said "unauthorized usage of addHtml extension." [09:11:33] oh, well that should work in templates too, then [09:11:39] file a bug [09:11:40] Qjimbo: it's OK. seems just special character will cause that problem [09:12:07] but i don't know if it's a bug or if im just doing something wrong [09:13:24] I would consider that a bug, unless someone can come up with a compelling reason as to why we would forbid the use of in templates. [09:13:35] ok then [09:13:47] well [09:13:57] maybe addhtml is only supported for articles [09:14:05] surely in templates you can just put in rgular html anyway? [09:14:14] why? [09:14:15] *regular [09:14:30] well I thought templates didn't use wiki syntax [09:14:33] How do I stretch an image in my wiki? [09:15:03] course they do [09:19:43] hmm I'm looking into mediawiki hooks now, for custom article titles, looks confusing [09:21:03] what do I put under Initial State? [09:26:02] 03(NEW) addHtml in Templates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10904 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Templates; (abstractdesigns) [09:27:33] wikibugs: yes that was me [09:36:46] what's the latest version compatible with PHP 4.3.11 and mysql 3.23.58 ? [09:38:54] read the topic [09:38:59] ignore that [09:39:07] luke_: Let me see, Mysql 3 is olddd. [09:41:17] 03proes * r24741 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/Editor.php: Refactored RecordListEditor a bit [09:42:16] luke_: 1.6 [09:42:16] MinuteElectron: yeh :-( not my fault [09:42:29] thank you [09:43:45] is there a channel for XAMPP support? [09:44:00] nvm i found it [09:45:17] 04(REOPENED) Moving no.wikinews into a Scandinavian version - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 +comment (10utne) [09:45:33] 03proes * r24742 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/WikiDataGlobals.php: Renamed some property captions. [09:45:38] I'm trying to create a progress bar template, something like {{bar|75}} which would create a 75 px wide bar. I would like to use an image for this template, which is 1 px wide. I have no clue what to do next, as I can't figure out how to either stretch the image horizontally in MediaWiki, or use it as a table cell background with a variable width. [09:48:13] MinuteElectron: INSTALL file says 'A MySQL server, 4.0.14 or higher.' [09:48:36] luke_: Try 1.5 - I may have made an error. [09:50:38] hmm - is that available on the web? [09:51:32] TimStarling hi [09:52:28] luke_: yeah, but it is oldddd. [09:53:40] 03nikerabbit * r24743 10/trunk/extensions/ (23 files in 21 dirs): * Dutch (nl) translations and updates to extensions [09:59:20] MinuteElectron: got it thanks. it is old. [09:59:26] yeah [10:02:41] how long does it take for a bug to get looked at? and resolved (if possible)? [10:05:08] GBenemy it's open source development, I imagine it varies a lot [10:05:25] considering it's people donating their time [10:06:11] oh [10:07:25] lol [10:07:42] "Oh... it's open source... ew... *leaves*" [10:13:22] 03proes * r24744 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (3 files): [10:13:22] Added $propertyCaption to constructor PropertyToColumnFilter. Users of [10:13:22] PropertyToColumnFilters should update all present filters with this extra [10:13:22] parameter. This parameter controls the name of the first column in the table [10:13:22] with the property values. [10:16:44] HI all [10:17:10] just want to know how to disable the whole toolbox for mediawiki [10:17:14] for all users [10:18:17] Maj: Hack the code a lot. [10:18:33] but how ?? in Monobook.php [10:18:37] I will be working on something to make it customizable over the next two weeks while I have no internet access. [10:18:50] Maj: Yes, but also the other - more complex - skin files. [10:23:59] yeah [10:24:09] do you know ehich skin file ? [10:24:10] yeah take it out in the skin [10:24:18] whichever skin you're using [10:24:30] am using monobook.php [10:24:36] i mean monoboo [10:24:38] well open that file [10:24:44] yeah [10:25:08] should be something along the line of $this->msg('toolbox') [10:25:12] that'll be the top of your toolbox [10:25:25] yeah I see thath [10:25:36] you'd want to delete everything from
      to
      [10:25:46] which is just above that bit [10:26:01] ok let me see if thath works [10:26:08] then save and try going to a page on your wiki, if it isn't gone, the cahce might not have flushed [10:26:09] thanks Qjimbo :) [10:26:12] no probs [10:26:32] you mean browser cahce ? [10:26:39] nah wiki cache [10:26:47] how to flush that ? [10:26:54] it caches pages to speed up rendering [10:27:02] just try going to a random page [10:27:08] how to fulsh that ? [10:27:11] index.php/loltest [10:27:19] for example =p [10:28:19] but yeah I don't know how to flush [10:28:20] hey Qjimbo I didn't see
      in monobook.php [10:28:26] hmm [10:28:41] I commented out the div block for $this->msg('toolbox') [10:28:42] well there should be some div there that is like the start of the whole toolbox section [10:28:56] it works only after I login [10:29:08] I mean it is not showing toolbox after I login [10:29:15] Maj: cache [10:29:27] yeah like I said [10:29:28] if am not logged in it will show the toolbox [10:29:31] yeah [10:29:36] I will check that [10:29:54] how DO you flush the cache? @anyone [10:31:50] I will echo that "how DO you flush the cache? @anyone" ? [10:34:10] 03proes * r24745 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/OmegaWikiEditors.php: Fixed property to column filters for Link attributes. [10:34:13] 04(REOPENED) If page title contains Umlaut the link on edit page is wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10881 +comment (10hj-meyer) [10:37:20] Hey it's working for me [10:37:33] I removed caching for anonymous users [10:37:35] woot [10:37:44] that did the trick ;) [10:37:46] cool [10:38:02] though caching is good [10:38:09] just not if your developing skins [10:38:16] hmm [10:39:04] # File cache for anonymous user [10:39:04] $wgUseFileCache = true; [10:39:04] $wgFileCacheDirectory = "/home/user/tmp/mwcache"; [10:39:04] $wgUseGzip = false; [10:39:18] I did like like this [10:39:29] removed /home/user/tmp/mwcache files ;) [10:39:41] and reenabled this in Localsettings [10:39:43] woot [10:50:26] I can't find the # File cache for anonymous user section in my local settings php file [10:51:34] {{ #ifexpr: {{ #expr: {{{1}}}>50 }} | #00FF00 | #FF0000 }} [10:52:00] The {{{1}}} parameter isn't read properly. What's wrong with my expression? [10:53:14] (Basically, if the input parameter is greater than 50, the hexadecimal code for green should be returned. If not, red is returned.) [10:53:46] Qjimbo_: not all settings are present in LocalSettings per default. look at DefaultSettings.php, copy the stuff you need to LocalSettings and modify it. [10:54:02] but stuff IS being cached somewhere [10:54:08] It does have proper return value with manual input (e.g. entering 80 instead of {{{1}}} in the expression), it just doesn't work with {{{1}}} [10:54:11] ooh I suppose it must be in default settings [10:54:20] Qjimbo_: parser cache is on per default. file cache is not. [10:54:32] hmm [10:54:47] browser cache applies, obviously [10:56:11] the {{#expr}} is probably not needed [10:58:08] #ifexpr just seems to return true or false whether the string contains something or not [10:59:05] no, that would be #if [11:01:43] Hmm, the expression does do what I have intended it to, it just doesn't compile inside a html table for some reason. [11:02:49] Div doesn't work either. [11:03:03]
      [11:03:48] It just... prints out the expression as this text: 50 }} |#00FF00;|#FF0000;}}"> [11:07:13] I got it to work by making a separate template out of the expression, then just calling it.. Weird. [11:08:08] 03(mod) Mailing list for nds Wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 (10wiki) [11:09:10] hey Qjimbo I was away for a coffeee ;) [11:09:24] you can copy that code in the Localsettings.php [11:09:39] (16:09:04) Maj: # File cache for anonymous user [11:09:39] (16:09:04) Maj: $wgUseFileCache = true; [11:09:39] (16:09:04) Maj: $wgFileCacheDirectory = "/home/user/tmp/mwcache"; [11:09:39] (16:09:04) Maj: $wgUseGzip = false; [11:09:52] this will enable caching for anonymous user [11:10:16] specify path /home/users/tmp/mwcache" ;) [11:10:24] that did the tric [11:13:09] Thanks guys am out of here :) Thanks Qjimbo and MinuteElectron :). You guys Rock :) [11:18:45] What's displaytitle? [11:19:02]

      data['displaytitle']!=""?$this->text('title'):$this->html('title') ?>

      [11:19:17] does this allow you to set a custom page title? [11:19:41] yep [11:20:08] sweet, how do I set it? [11:21:38] {{DISPLAYTITLE:eBay}} [11:21:41] Qjimbo_: {{DISPLAYTITLE:yourtitle}} [11:21:59] where would I put this within the article? at the end? [11:22:29] doesn't matter. but at the first line it seems to be logical [11:23:15] hmmm [11:23:45] it came up as Template:DISPLAYTITLE:Hello World [11:24:25] Qjimbo_: which version do you use? [11:24:42] 1.10.1 [11:25:31] set $wgAllowDisplayTitle = true; on LocalSettings.php [11:25:41] ok, DISPLAYTITLE will come with 1.11 [11:26:47] yeah jack that didn't fix it [11:27:01] <_< [11:27:09] wait [11:27:13] just reedited the page [11:27:16] now it works! [11:27:18] :) [11:27:30] oh that is awesome, thanks [11:27:34] np [11:32:36] hi, sorry for the dumb question but how do you create contents box with hide/show opt. on your wiki page? [11:35:15] found it __FORCETOC__ [11:49:36] hmm whats the code to center align text [11:49:49] ? [12:22:41] 03(mod) Change the - char from 'ndash' to 'minus' - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10891 (10jleedev) [12:26:49] Hi [12:27:10] is there a page for using {{if:xxx}} [12:27:10] ? [12:27:20] I have seen one [12:39:54] MediaWiki.org is full of junk. [12:40:29] WTF do we we have guides for installing MediaWiki on different operating systems. [12:40:58] meh [12:41:05] Meta-Wiki has even more junk [12:41:06] OsamaK, search for ParserFunctions on meta [12:41:53] Platonides: Thanks! [12:43:03] Jack_Phoenix: yeah, >9GB of junk lol. [12:46:59] *MinuteElectron attempts to get PHP interacting with MySQL on his laptop. [12:47:55] <_Danny_B_> TimStarling: hi, could you rerun http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD:Shortpages please? [13:02:41] 03(mod) addHtml in Templates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10904 (10danny_b) [13:06:30] 03(NEW) Rename Haitian creole Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10905 minor; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (le.korrigan) [13:08:08] hi [13:10:28] is there any german speaking developer with knowledge about the sessionmanagement? (I have a question and my english isn't very well) [13:11:11] <_Danny_B_> n3or: just ask and wait for somebody to answer [13:11:31] ok, I will try to explain in english.. [13:12:46] *chat-de-plafond finally gets to wikitech-l [13:14:23] there are afaik 4 cookies. one of them contents a sessionid ({$wikiname}_session). But i can not find any sense for this!? Where can i get informations about this? [13:14:55] or: where are the sessions saved..? [13:20:38] 03(mod) Rename Haitian creole Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10905 minor->15enhancement; +shell; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [13:21:16] 03proes * r24746 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/ (4 files): Solved bug that prevented translated text attribute values from being added [13:24:28] 03(NEW) Update for Haitian Creole language (ht) and namespace translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10906 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (le.korrigan) [13:26:32] Hi! I am developing extension for mediawiki now. I can make simple pseudo-xml tags just for pasting tagsl like: which can appear as HTML button in the article. But how can i make some text for creating HTML button with the value of "some text"??? [13:26:42] 03(mod) Rename Haitian creole Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10905 (10le.korrigan) [13:26:54] 03(mod) Update for Haitian Creole language (ht) and namespace translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10906 (10raimond.spekking) [13:27:17] if you need source: http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72173 [13:31:31] Sorry. If there is anyone who can help in developing MW extension? [13:33:03] ello [13:36:40] Hi Brion. :) [13:37:29] oy [13:39:59] <_Danny_B_> anurbol: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extending_wiki_markup [13:41:01] 03raymond * r24747 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesHt.php): [13:41:01] * (bug 10906) Update for Haitian Creole language (ht) and namespace translation [13:41:01] Patch by Remi Kaupp [13:41:12] <_Danny_B_> brion-office: hi, could you rerun http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD:Shortpages please? [13:42:19] you guys been killing pages? :) [13:42:56] _Danny_B_: i' va already read this, but didn't find an answer, can you advise me at least what to choose: parser functions or tag extensions for my needs? [13:43:52] 03(FIXED) Update for Haitian Creole language (ht) and namespace translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10906 +patch; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [13:44:33] I found the answere.. wikimedia uses the PHP Session management.. damn.. [13:45:36] n3or: damn why? [13:46:41] evening brion-office [13:46:42] <_Danny_B_> brion-office: all are doubled from unexplainable causes [13:47:38] <_Danny_B_> anurbol: suggesting http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ICQ to take a look how simple extension looks like [13:47:43] brion-office: hmm.. at moment i dont know how i can handle the php sessions for my application connector.. [13:48:24] *brion-office goes to apple.com to shell out the yearly upgrade ransom for iLife [13:48:48] n3or: what's an application connector? an http load balancer or something else? [13:50:34] _Danny_B_: *nod* ok i'll poke it in a bit [13:50:38] chat-de-plafond: morning [13:51:16] brion-office: it is a class which connects the session- and userhandling (some other things will maybe added) from different applications (atm a cms, phpbb3 and wikimedia) [13:51:16] brion-office: asyou suggested, I started a discussion thread about the changes [13:51:21] if they sold iPhoto alone for a quarter the price i'd be happier :P [13:51:23] ahhh apple [13:51:46] n3or: you may want to look into the AuthPlugin interface then [13:52:53] brion-office: I will do that. Thank you for this hint. [13:53:43] <_Danny_B_> brion-office: did you guys make notable untrivial changes to parser/sanitizer recently? [13:54:06] _Danny_B_: not that i knwo of offhand [13:54:34] _Danny_B_:Oh, thanks!!! to tell the truth, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extending_wiki_markup is hard enough for understanding of people, whose native language (!english) :) [13:56:45] brion-office: Many thanks. That Plugin is really helpfull for me! [13:57:13] <_Danny_B_> brion-office: two pretty nasty bugs popped out which i guess i haven't seen before, so i suppose some changes have been made which cause that. it's 10901 and 10893 [13:57:39] ok, file a bug and put sample text in it [13:57:43] i'll peek at it in a bit [13:57:48] office meeting in a minute :P [14:03:54] oh, and another question: how can i put into $output of my extension? [14:04:07] What happens when you try? [14:04:19] *alester hushes himself. [14:04:43] the source of the page contains [14:05:04] and nothing isviewed to the user [14:06:03] $wgOut->addHTML( $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] ); [14:07:01] chat-de-plafond: thanks! [14:18:52] _Danny_B_: running cswiki shortpages... [14:18:55] done. [14:19:39] <_Danny_B_> thx, what was the problem? [14:19:55] 03(mod) SVGs rendered as "empty" images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5463 normal->high; +comment (10FSNNDYHEXYAP) [14:20:09] *shrug* [14:20:34] <_Danny_B_> yep, those are the best problems ;-) [14:29:23] 03(mod) Changed/Updated since my last visit feature doesn' t reflect on my last visits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10884 summary; +comment (10FSNNDYHEXYAP) [14:40:39] VoiceOfAll: can you explain r24737? [14:40:47] hmmm [14:40:49] ah wait [14:40:52] silly php, i remember [14:40:57] nm [14:41:38] r24738 bugs me though -- that should use a function on Article, not hack the DB [14:52:58] hi all [14:53:17] does anyone know where word indexing [for future usage on "seach"] is done in mediawiki? [14:53:41] I wonder why mediawiki is not indexing alfanumeric expressions, like IP addresses [14:54:15] Panora200: mysql [14:54:51] hi brion. is it just a matter of refining mysql's conf? [14:55:06] or is it definitelly impossible? [14:55:24] 03erik * r24748 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsPage.i18n.php: speak of changes rather than revisions [14:55:47] *Panora200 is looking at mysql's conf [14:56:03] *Panora200 ... and MATCH directives [14:57:03] if I upload a file to my wiki, and it's a zip file, it still labels it as an image. i.e. Image:file.zip ... this prevents me from linking to it with a better name i.e. "click [[image:file.zip|here]]" [14:57:27] is there a way around that? [14:57:44] <_Danny_B_> why subpages are case sensitive? [14:58:07] everything's case sensitive [14:58:14] <^demon> Except the first letter. [14:58:14] with very few, very rare, exceptions [14:58:15] 03(mod) API returns [] as an empty return value instead of {} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10887 (10brion) [14:58:16] <_Danny_B_> first letter isn't [14:58:28] right [14:58:36] subpages have no relation to the first letter, now do they [14:58:59] Panora200: dunno. try it out eh [14:59:01] <_Danny_B_> so i wonder why {{/foo}} != {{/Foo}} [14:59:15] <_Danny_B_> actually, would it be hard to manage it? [14:59:31] Is the upload feature only intended for images? [14:59:36] <_Danny_B_> like if subpages allowed in such ns, then it would behave insensitive way [14:59:54] <_Danny_B_> tehj: nope, you can upload pretty much whatever [15:00:13] then why does it attach "image:" before the file? [15:00:20] is it a MIME issue? [15:00:21] <_Danny_B_> the Image is the namespace name [15:00:34] <_Danny_B_> which was unfortunately chosen badly [15:00:47] ah, but what about linking to it in my wiki with a better name? [15:00:54] <_Danny_B_> shold be more descriptive File: (it's been bugged for ages) [15:01:23] [[image:file.zip|file]] doesn't seem to work [15:01:36] <_Danny_B_> tehj: maybe namespace alias could help, but i'm not sure. ask senior devs [15:01:56] ah, thanks for your help [15:03:07] <_Danny_B_> tehj: it's bug 44 you can take a look [15:12:38] Hi, I am trying to add ldap authentification to my configuration I added this information to my LocalSettings.php (http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72179) and downloaded the LdapAuthentication.php. When I try to log in media wiki with my ldap username and password, it return an identification error. If someone can give a hand :p [15:17:52] <_Danny_B_> brion: the other day we didn't finish talk about additional usergroups because there were some server issues. so could we create some? [15:18:11] dunno. in meeting [15:18:18] <_Danny_B_> ok, i'll wait [15:19:39] 03(mod) Image disappeared on Wikimedia Commons - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10128 (10FSNNDYHEXYAP) [15:33:12] 03(mod) Enable template inclusion from Commons (transclusion => interwiki templates, etc.) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4547 (10FSNNDYHEXYAP) [15:37:22] is there a possibility to lock pages so that only users that are in a custom group can edit them? [15:44:52] aton`: yes [15:45:07] how? [15:45:25] i created a group called "moderators" [15:45:32] $wgRestrictionLevels = array( '', 'autoconfirmed', 'sysop' ); [15:45:59] that array includes all usergroups that are allowed? [15:46:10] any group that exists [15:47:05] autoconfirmed are the users that just created an account [15:47:10] but are not confirmed via email [15:47:12] right? [15:47:38] right [15:47:50] well, after X days and Y edits [15:48:04] ? [15:48:33] aton`: this is emailconfirmed [15:48:53] when you have a confirmed e-mail address [15:49:21] voiceofall, why is there a '' in your variable? [15:50:12] '' means "everyone can edit" [15:50:37] The ordering of elements [15:50:38] * dictates the order on the protection form's lists. [15:51:01] oh ok now i understand [15:51:20] and how do i set the x and y edits so that ppl are autoconfirmed after some edits? [15:51:46] $wgAutoConfirmAge = 3600*24; // one day [15:51:54] $wgAutoConfirmCount = 0; [15:52:01] or whatever [15:53:16] thanks! [15:59:03] in the list there is a <protect-level-moderators> now [15:59:10] it shows up like that [15:59:20] $wgRestrictionLevels = array( '', 'autoconfirmed', 'sysop', 'Moderatoren' ); [15:59:23] 03(mod) Enable template inclusion from Commons (transclusion => interwiki templates, etc.) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4547 +comment (10l8qjvx002) [15:59:30] <protect-level-Moderatoren> [15:59:39] doesnt seem to work [15:59:41] I'd avoid caps for 1 [15:59:46] *for one [15:59:52] one? [15:59:55] for the first letter? [15:59:56] 2) it should work when selected [16:00:01] heh...yeah [16:00:07] aton`: create [[MediaWiki:protect-level-Moderatoren]] in your wiki [16:00:17] 3) what he said [16:00:20] :) [16:00:21] thanks [16:02:51] i renamed the group [16:12:57] hm i am a sysop and in the group "moderatoren" but when i add a lock so that only moderatoren can edit the page i cannot edit it anymore [16:13:09] and neither can other ppl in the moderatoren group [16:16:20] Raymond_, creating the page worked, i now see a nice string in the restrictions page [16:16:31] i also renamed the group to "moderatoren" [16:16:54] \o/ [16:17:01] but the restriction itself doesnt really work [16:17:12] nobody can edit the document anymore [16:17:31] some logical mistake... [16:19:29] 14(WFM) If page title contains Umlaut the link on edit page is wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10881 +comment (10robchur) [16:20:56] Raymond_, also the "protect" link does not appear, but always the "unprotect" link, even if i unprotect the page [16:21:03] i already deleted the protection entry from the db [16:21:09] but nothing changes [16:21:16] hmm [16:21:29] 14(INVALID) addHtml in Templates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10904 +comment (10robchur) [16:21:44] no idea at the moment [16:28:32] "While watching my cats sleep on the carpet is cute, it was more fun when there was no carpet and they slid everywhere, inevitably slamming into walls like Sonny Bono with a tree." [16:28:40] *robchurch sniggers [16:37:55] hi [16:38:20] Do someone know if there is in mediawiki in code another place which mayu call squid purge except SquidUpdate.php? [16:39:57] Hello all... any Wiki Math pro's in the house today? [16:40:05] Hey Biron... [16:40:51] Inez: a quick grep will confirm, but I'd find it highly unlikely [16:41:24] 03aaron * r24749 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialImport.php: *Call Article::updateRevisionOn() to update page record for null revision [16:41:59] I found something interesting [16:43:07] Ok... Since I have media wiki 1.6.8 working with Math on a OS X intel server, and I can not get 1.6.10 to work, does anyone see a problem with me running the older version. I checked the RELEASE-NOTES for 1.6.10 and the only security thing relates to Ajax, which I don't use... am I correct? [16:45:35] robchurch: behold! http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10902 [16:48:54] no one has any obvious objections to running 1.6.8 vs 1.6.10? [16:59:54] moin, is it possible to ?action=purge all images? [17:11:15] how do i administer mediawiki [17:12:51] dfgas: users by [[Special:Userrights]] and settings by editing localhosts.php [17:14:18] well like the list off to the left, i would like to edit that [17:14:36] navigation [17:20:55] dfgas: Read the FAQ. [17:20:59] VoiceOfAll: And? [17:27:48] <[Jessy]> Hi [17:28:16] <[Jessy]> I Have some questions to MediaWiki (again) [17:28:39] bad news, I installed 1.6.8 and I still get the error message... at this point I'm reinstalling the packages via fink. I did notice that I had 2 different versions of tex which could be causing the problems... [17:29:05] <[Jessy]> How can i edit the Common.css? [17:29:14] Edit the "MediaWiki:Common.css" page. [17:29:16] 03(mod) Unable to fetch contributions from an IP address - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10902 summary (10robchur) [17:29:20] pTex and TeTeX, however, I don't think either of them were fully installed, But that still does not explain why I could make the math process work at the command line... [17:29:22] You need to be logged in as a sysop. [17:29:38] Klemo: Permissions on temp directories? SELinux? [17:29:44] OS X [17:29:52] permissions are fine... I'm way past that... heh [17:29:56] *robchurch shrugs [17:30:25] <[Jessy]> how can I create a sysop account= [17:30:36] Also this time I'm going to build the same version of imagemagick I used on the working wiki and not from the Fink install... [17:30:52] You should have one from the installation process. Alternatively, there's something about it in the FAQ, I think - to do with losing access to it. [17:31:02] <[Jessy]> hm ok [17:31:33] <[Jessy]> I thought the common.css is somewhere on the ftp [17:31:48] acually I guess I used a .pkg installer for imagemagick last time... I'll report any changes in my condititions... [17:32:42] Where is "common.css" referred to? Most of the time, we're talking about the wiki page. [17:32:55] The CSS file for the default skin is called "main.css". [17:35:06] I just updated from 1.6.8 to 1.10.1 [17:35:27] I now see on my pages, "Warning: array_slice() [function.array-slice]: The first argument should be an array in /nfsn/content/kjd-imc-wiki/public/languages/Language.php on line 1139" [17:36:26] and in error_log I see '[Mon Aug 13 10:33:18 2007] [error] "" is not a valid magic thingie for "if"' [17:36:45] (and much the same error for 'expr' rather than 'if' [17:39:14] 03kim * r24750 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/small/ (autoreplace.sh ra3.pl): [17:39:14] Somewhat working ra3... I'm now busy messing with it while [17:39:14] editing all of Omegawiki at once. Bwahahahaaa POWER! [17:41:00] how do i get a link to open a new page? [17:44:37] oh damn [17:44:41] if template [17:44:47] extension, etc. [17:44:58] somehow I think searching for 'if' is doomed to failure [17:45:51] Hmm... [17:46:14] kjdavies: Upgrade to the latest version of the ParserFunctions extension. [17:46:35] thanks. I just sussed that out *g* [17:47:53] hi [17:48:47] ha! I just remembered, this'll probably fix another problem [17:49:52] 03robchurch * r24751 10/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: Tweak comment, "usable" is the purpose of this method, it's just confusing otherwise [17:50:05] ok well... [17:50:31] I compaired what happens when my working wiki with math outputs to error.log (http) and the wiki that will not work at all... [17:50:36] I get this error message... [17:50:45] dvips: ! Second input filename (Set/Wise/wiki/images/tmp/415_bb28e45b29313159a375c827d591aa82.dvi) specified. [17:51:16] which does not show up on the working wiki... if anyone has any insights please let me know. I now have exactly the same software on both servers. [17:52:27] I have to step out for a sec... [17:52:37] 03(mod) Your "login" line should say "email address" because that' s all that works - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10895 (10brion) [17:54:19] 03(mod) Your "login" line should say "email address" because that' s all that works - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10895 (10brion) [17:55:08] robchurch: yep, that did it. Now I'm fighting the kludges I had in place when I had to use the :P [17:55:34] 03(mod) If page title contains Umlaut the link on edit page is wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10881 (10hj-meyer) [17:56:08] robchurch: to the left, it does solve the 'bug' I mentioned earlier, where it was choking a bit in Language.php [17:57:15] 03(mod) If page title contains Umlaut the link on edit page is wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10881 (10brion) [17:58:19] *robchurch frowns [17:58:26] "Foo:Bar" is a valid username. [17:58:40] At least, I can create it. Problem, though, since once it's done, the actual username is "Bar". [17:59:17] I am trying to add ldap authentification to my configuration I added this information to my LocalSettings.php (http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72179) and downloaded the LdapAuthentication.php. When I try to log in media wiki with my ldap username and password, it return an identification error. If someone can give a hand [17:59:49] Nokio: have you activated the log? [18:00:40] The misresolution check in User::isValidUserName() seems to be dud, or else, Title::getText() is being misused. [18:04:33] 03kim * r24752 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/small/ (go.sh ra3.pl): [18:04:33] Still working on pl scripts for large scale code modification. faster, [18:04:33] faster! (Too bad this only really needs doing once) [18:06:08] gah [18:06:15] so I guess I have a dvips problem... [18:06:25] this template, I either end up with extra white space, or none (no linebreaks) [18:07:22] is it safe to just nuke out the user in the users sql table when i want to delete him or should i use some script for that? [18:08:44] ha! [18:08:47]
      to the rescue [18:09:08] Flominator: there is almost nothing into my apache log [18:10:45] Nokio: i meant the log of the ldap-extension ... [18:14:39] okay, this is weird [18:14:45] I have a template that takes arguments [18:15:13] if I have "fieldname=paragraph1.\n\nparagraph2.|" it presents it as a single paragraph [18:15:21] if I have *three* paragraphs there, it splits them up [18:15:48] 03robchurch * r24753 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryUserContributions.php): [18:15:48] * (bug 10902) Unable to fetch user contributions from IP addresses [18:15:48] * `list=usercontribs` no longer requires that the user exist [18:16:04] 03(FIXED) Unable to fetch contributions from an IP address - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10902 +comment (10robchur) [18:16:07] *robchurch mutters nasty things about the API [18:17:24] flominator: How can I activate the log of the ldap extension? [18:18:30] 03robchurch * r24754 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryUserContributions.php: Better variable and method naming [18:19:18] Nokio: there is a variable ... pls wait [18:20:36] Nokio: add $wgLDAPDebug = 3; to your LocalSettings.php [18:21:33] so no one has had any dvips problems with the Math process on MediaWiki? [18:21:55] brion: It must warm your very soul knowing that, even as there are people screaming at you to finish it, there is at least one person who believes you are the spawn of Satan for daring to work on unified login. [18:22:51] meh [18:23:55] Flominator : Let me take a look at what it say's thanks brb! [18:25:46] *MinuteElectron gets annoyed at PHP for not using the PHPIniDir setting in httpd.conf [18:26:44] Flominator : Thanks that does the trick, it's now working as expected. Thanks again!! [18:27:00] Nokio: your welcome [18:27:04] damnit... I'm constantly trying to concatenate strings using "." [18:27:13] which is bad when you're trying to write javascript [18:27:17] whoops [18:27:31] makes all sorts of funky errors depending on what comes after [18:28:01] TimStarling: using + for it in php produces even funnier results [18:28:03] TimStarling: Sounds like this PHP thing has your brain in a state of rot. [18:29:37] *MinuteElectron ponders what Anthony thinks is so bad about SUL. [18:30:07] Oh, I see. [18:30:36] yep, personalhomepagius encephalitis [18:31:22] lol [18:33:09] Well, at least if you get the shits, you'll be able to go properly... [18:38:49] bye [18:44:51] okay, I think I'm getting a handle on this [18:45:09] somewhere along the way, it seems they (y'know, *them*) changed how whitespace is handled in templates [18:45:22] {{#if}}, it now removes whitespace around the arguments [18:45:55] which probably explains why stuff was all running together -- it was stripping the newlines I was putting into the {{#if}} call [18:46:20] They hate whitespace. [18:46:23] *robchurch nods sagely [18:48:01] Yello! I'm looking for documentation about the MediaWiki:* pages.... [18:52:18] What kind of documentation? [18:52:25] List of messages? [18:53:44] Dunno. I just found a page called MediaWiki:Common.css and I'm trying to find out what else there is and what I can do here. [18:53:50] w00t [18:53:57] PHP has stopped being a whore. [18:55:08] docwhat: MediaWiki uses "messages" for localisation. Messages can be customised via the MediaWiki namespace. Some messages are abused for special purposes, e.g. MediaWiki:Common.css is used for additional CSS for all skins, MediaWiki:Sidebar is the navigation bar, etc. [18:55:24] You can find a list of all message at Special:Allmessages, along with their default content, and changed content, if applicable. [18:56:50] sorry about asking such a basic question but - my boss recently discovered that a page had been edited a long time ago and information from the old version still show up when relevant information is searched for but it occurred so long ago that it does not show up in the history of that page - is there ANY way to retrieve the old page if it is not in the history any more? [18:57:49] ninjabear: Unless you lost data (perhaps in a server crash), MediaWiki keeps every edit regardless of age. [18:58:27] it was only that page that was affected so i do not think it was a server crash [18:58:38] robchurch: Thanks. :-) [18:58:59] and if that was the case wouldn't it not show up in the search results? [19:00:33] It shouldn't, unless the text is in the current version of the page. Maybe your search index is outdated or something, but I don't know how the search feature works. [19:00:52] ninjabear: Run rebuildsearchindex.php in /maintenance [19:01:02] using php rebuildsearchindex.php [19:01:05] or something like that [19:01:43] well it is not the search that I am concerned about - we want to restore the information that it is finding [19:02:01] ninjabear: Page histories are split into multiple pages. You've checked all of them? [19:02:39] it only has one page of history [19:02:57] We had figured that it just listed changed for a certain time period [19:04:27] though the histories on the other pages go back further in time [19:04:55] Check the first edit. Maybe someone copied and pasted another article. [19:05:33] Or check the deletion log for that page; someone might have deleted the original article you're looking for. [19:05:47] how do i access that? [19:06:14] Special:Log [19:07:19] so i can see deleted histories there as well as deleted pages? [19:07:32] yep [19:07:46] A deleted history would appear as a deletion then a restoration [19:12:41] so if the old version is not in the history, and the old version is not in the deleted logs, then.... haha it just disappeared? [19:14:07] Yep. [19:15:46] is there a log for looking at edits? or anything like that? i just dont see how someone could have edited the page and left no trace of it [19:16:27] The history view /is/ the log of edits for that page. [19:16:32] ninjabear: Do you know SQL? [19:17:25] i know that's what the history is - the problem is that it is obviously missing information [19:18:17] no i do not - but i can probably find someone who does if necessary [19:18:33] is it possible to tell mediawiki to dual license the contents under the GNU Free Documentation License [19:18:37] ? [19:18:47] and creative common attribution? [19:19:43] no [19:19:43] i got a problem: i added a group "moderatoren" and use $wgRestrictionLevels = array( '', 'autoconfirmed', 'sysop', 'moderatoren' ); ... i also modified MediaWiki:Protect-level-moderatoren. but when i change the protection of an article so that only ppl in the "moderatoren" group can edit it, nobody can edit it, not me (sysop+moderatoren), nor any normal users who in the "moderatoren" group. any ideas? [19:20:05] $wgRestrictionLevels is an array of permission keys. [19:20:19] "sysop" is transformed into "protect" for backwards-compatibility reasons. [19:21:03] how do you link to images with a description? [19:21:11] robchurch, that means? [19:21:54] What is your $wgGroupPermissions line? [19:22:38] not really a description, i.e. click here (and "here" links to image:something.jpg) [19:24:05] robchurch, well its not exactly *one* line: [19:24:07] http://rafb.net/p/zDJjVg98.html [19:25:01] $wgGroupPermissions['moderatoren']['moderatoren']; [19:25:08] then just use $wgRestrictionLevels[] = 'moderatoren'; [19:26:30] huh? [19:27:26] I told you, $wgRestrictionLevels is an array of *rights* [19:27:28] Not of groups [19:27:31] Despite what it may appear [19:27:37] oh [19:27:55] It actually says this in DefaultSettings.php [19:28:12] You haven't assigned the "moderatoren" right to anyone, so of course nobody can edit those pages. [19:28:52] okay, I've got an extension installed (articletocategory) and I want to modify how it works [19:28:55] hmm [19:28:58] 'modify the script', obviously [19:29:15] the way it works right now it adds a small form to the article body text [19:29:21] (of the category) [19:29:25] okay so no one knows how i can restore that page if it is only showing up in the search area and not the history or the log area? [19:29:33] the first change, I want it to appear in the 'Articles in Category' section [19:29:33] robchurch, yes i have a lot of ppl in the moderatoren group [19:29:38] does anyone know who might - or anyone i can contact? [19:29:42] No [19:29:43] No [19:29:43] No [19:29:50] You put users into groups. [19:29:54] You give groups permissions. [19:30:09] Lots of people may be in that group, but that group does not have that right, so it doesn't work. [19:30:19] This is MediaWiki Permissions 101, please go and read up on it. [19:30:51] "But Rob, 101 is the first user-defined namespace!" [19:30:52] *kjdavies shuts up [19:31:06] Wise choic.e [19:31:15] robchurch, yes i will read [19:31:20] thanks for the help [19:31:31] (also, incorrect information. 100 is the first, 101 is the first _Talk) [19:36:02] Special:MergeAccount is neat. [19:36:16] well thanks for the help guys [19:36:20] ciao! [19:36:55] robchurch, do you have an url for that problem, i am seraching wikimedia.org and not finding anything but normal user permission settings [19:37:14] I bet you're not searching Wikimedia.org... [19:37:30] any idea where the footer part of the mediawiki page is? [19:37:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights [19:38:03] i thought i read that article [19:38:07] I want to dual licenses it under GNU FDL and Creative Common attribute only [19:39:22] robchurch, that article is just about wgGroupPermissions [19:39:39] not about wgRestrictionLevels, which is what i dont seem to understand [19:39:54] can anybody know where the footer template is located? [19:43:30] *kiba feels helpless [19:45:07] *robchurch sighs [19:45:22] You have created the "moderatoren" gorup. [19:45:23] *group [19:45:29] You have not assigned it any "moderatoren" right. [19:45:37] $wgRestrictionLevels is an array of permissions. [19:45:56] What it means is, "protect this page against users without this permission" [19:46:12] robchurch, i understood now, thanks [19:46:22] it didnt work first because i copied your line from above [19:46:28] which lacked the "=true;" [19:46:37] Yes, it did. [19:46:41] but i have understood the concept now [19:46:48] makes _some_ sense [19:46:50] :) [19:46:52] thanks a lot [19:49:06] *kiba found FAQ info [19:49:09] 03david * r24755 10/branches/liquidthreads/ (34 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed) [19:49:09] Merged revisions 24694-24754 via svnmerge from [19:49:09] svn+ssh://david@svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 [19:49:09] ........ [19:49:09] r24694 | yurik | 2007-08-09 01:41:58 -0700 (Thu, 09 Aug 2007) | 5 lines [19:49:10] API: [19:49:12] * Added rvprop=size to prop=revisions. Can get the size of all the revisions. The size will not be shown if it is NULL in the database. [19:49:13] should have consult FAQ [19:49:15] first [19:49:17] 03robchurch * r24756 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Tweak comment to be clearer these are rights, not groups [19:54:51] which brion is here? brion or brion-office ? [19:55:19] Brion is everywhere. [19:55:33] both atm [19:56:36] yay [19:56:57] 03brion * r24757 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/storage/ (checkStorage.php resolveStubs.php): don't use unspecific paths in require_once()'s ... they break with default include path, and are also unnecessary under autoloader scheme [19:57:59] hrmmm i've got some broken text storage rows in wikitech db. sighhh [19:59:00] 03(NEW) Create Bengali Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10907 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (bastique) [19:59:50] question: How do I edit the image in the footer? [20:00:12] 03(mod) Create Bengali Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10907 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [20:02:59] 04(REOPENED) Enable subpages on the Incubator - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10749 normal->high; +comment (10robin_1273) [20:03:30] 03robchurch * r24758 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Show edit count in user preferences [20:04:01] 03(NEW) action=query, list=search API not working - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10908 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (bsrour) [20:04:16] zomgsh [20:04:35] Enable subpages on the Incubator --> comment was "EMERGENCY!!!" [20:04:37] O_O [20:05:52] If we panicked every time a user thought there was an emergency, we'd all have died from stress. [20:05:55] kiba: By hacking the code. [20:06:10] kiba: Which image? [20:06:37] the left corner one [20:06:45] nvm [20:07:01] but how to add new wgRightsIcon and wgRightstext? [20:07:23] I want to dual license my wiki with Creative Common Attribution 3.0 Unported and GNU FDL [20:08:04] *kiba asked too many questions that he found on his own. Need to search for a little longer before givin up. [20:08:06] kiba: Edit LocalSettings.php [20:08:10] You'll have to hack the code, then. MediaWiki doesn't recognise $wgRightsXXXX for more than one licence. [20:08:10] $wgCopyrightIcon [20:08:38] robchurch: Can't $wgCopyrightIcon be used, I have it functioning on http://linyard.org/ [20:08:48] Perhaps it can. [20:08:59] One sec. [20:09:05] But in general, MediaWiki doesn't accept licence metadata for more than one licence. [20:09:10] This is mainly due to common sense. [20:09:13] True. [20:09:32] *MinuteElectron loves CPanel 11. [20:09:59] I want to dual license it to be cross compatible with wikimedia contents and for my license preference [20:10:20] cPanel 11 looks like someone had a long intimate session with the ECMAscript docs and a jar of astroglide [20:10:29] *kiba just use the most generous license just because he want to [20:11:01] kiba: Set $wgCopyrightIcon to a string of arbitrary XHTML. [20:11:43] to a string of arbitary XHML????????? [20:11:50] *kiba is not a web developeer [20:11:56] ARBITRARY XHTML! [20:12:00] CONSTANT VIGILANCE! [20:12:04] s/developeer/developer [20:12:29] robchurch: hmm? [20:12:50] yesterday a user committed copyright infringment :( [20:12:56] and the wiki was like hours new [20:13:20] XHTML because MediaWiki uses XHTML (although ironicly serves it up using an invalid application type). [20:13:30] And arbitrary because I felt like saying it. [20:14:07] robchurch: cP 11 is a lot cleaner than cP X - do you dislike it? [20:14:08] MinuteElectron: I think kiba was asking you to speak english [20:14:08] Do you know what happens if you serve up invalid XHTML using the *right* application type? :P [20:14:21] not to justify what you were saying [20:14:22] TimStarling: Oh, yes. [20:14:32] robchurch: IE serves up source code. [20:14:37] *kiba ponders creative common image links [20:16:00] putting all my contents that I made for my website under creative common (very often under commercial friendly licenses) [20:16:06] seem so normal.. [20:16:14] kiba: Sorry. [20:18:44] kiba: You must add some XHTML to that variable. [20:19:20] and then put the blingblang in the ekeeptrack [20:20:02] arbitrary blingblang [20:20:07] XHTML links eh? [20:20:15] robchurch: Although at least users would have the warm feeling they were prmoting standards that advocated advancements in hypertext markup. [20:20:59] It has to be arbitrary blingblang? [20:21:12] yes, the more arbitrary the better [20:21:18] Neat. [20:21:25] robchurch: Alternatively we could just serve up HTML, which I do for all my home brew websites. It is much nicer on user agents and is far more reliable - you don't rely on quirks mode. [20:21:40] TimStarling: Are you taking the piss out of me? [20:21:42] *robchurch slaps some arbitrary script in there too [20:22:08] *MinuteElectron expects someone to respond 'arbitrarily'. [20:23:30] What about a BIG Flash animation? [20:23:34] Arbitrary contents, of course. [20:23:37] kiba: there is a file in your wiki directory called LocalSettings.php [20:23:45] open it in a text editor, scroll to the end [20:23:55] put something like this: [20:23:55] $wgCopyrightIcon = 'Wikimedia Foundation'; [20:24:14] that is our setting, you can change the various bits in there to whatever you want [20:24:28] href= for the link, src= for the image [20:25:36] *MinuteElectron goes and plays Battlefield 2142 in the hope this conversation will have been forgotten by all when he returns. [20:26:36] what about the copyright links? [20:26:40] I want two [20:27:12] *kiba wonders if GNU FDL image and Creative Common image will show side by side [20:27:54] $wgCopyrightIcon = 'description1description2'; [20:28:21] No, they'll fight and squabble like angry teenage siblings. [20:29:28] ok, recovered my damaged revisions on wikitech [20:29:41] well done [20:29:49] Anything mission-critical? Any passwords hidden in cleverly constructed ciphers? [20:30:47] I made my ogg player work in IE and firefox [20:30:54] whee [20:30:58] with either VLC or java [20:31:04] I'm still working on opera though [20:31:23] no doubt it will be broken in safari, everything breaks in safari [20:31:53] brion-office: If I create a BugZilla component for unified login (initial bugs 'n feedback for now), would you rather it went under MediaWiki extensions or Wikimedia? I'm leaning towards the latter. [20:32:57] 03(mod) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 +comment (10alefzet) [20:33:10] 04(REOPENED) Kazakh message updates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 (10alefzet) [20:33:26] robchurch: CentralAuth, in MW extensions [20:33:58] I still have more hacks to go through [20:34:17] done [20:34:36] *kiba 's life would be easier if mediawiki have a feature to support multiple licenses [20:35:12] MediaWiki doesn't really care what your licence is. [20:35:31] The existing settings are for setting some icons, links to a page and possibly other metadata. [20:35:38] It doesn't really affect how the software works. [20:36:11] I saw a wiki today with a cc-nc-nd license [20:36:28] if mediawiki knew anything at all about licenses, it wouldn't let anyone edit it [20:36:28] lol, at least we know these people are reading Wikitech :-P http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/newusers [20:37:08] :P [20:37:13] noncommercial..hmm [20:37:36] noncommercial is defensible, but no derivatives is a bit silly [20:37:37] people are morons if they license their softwares under the GPL yet license their contents under a non commercial clause [20:37:39] TimStarling: No doubt that'll be a key feature of Sentient MediaWiki. [20:38:21] *kiba enthaustically support commercial exploitation of Free content and Free software [20:39:38] According to Manual:Short_URL, I should use "RewriteRule ^/*$ wiki/ [L,QSA]" in my .htaccess, but doesn't this make any hits at all on the web server, such as /story.html go to the wiki? [20:40:18] akahn: yes. this is why the page you mentioned has big flashy warning boxes about not putting your wiki into the domain's root. [20:40:44] That page is once again covered in individual's little solutions. [20:40:49] YMMV. [20:41:08] gah. i want revision tagging for the manual pages [20:41:14] too much cruft turns up there. [20:41:16] robchurch: pardon? [20:41:23] *robchurch nods [20:41:32] akahn: don't trust the manual. it's a wiki. [20:41:40] i used to remove the example to put pages in the root, but people kept putting it back [20:41:53] You've got to balance it between the good edits which are neutral and decent, and the stuff that's crap, albeit made in good faith. [20:42:05] flyingparchment: leave it in and add "this is a bad idea" in bold, red and blinking [20:43:07] Duesentrieb: okay, is there any reliable documentation, then? I want my wiki that is in /w to have urls that are /wiki/Article... the alias method in the manual didn't seem to work, and the rewrite rule makes all pages in the root of my site go to the wiki [20:44:13] brion: why was page_key reverted? [20:44:18] didn't see a mail on wikitech-l about it [20:45:07] akahn: reliable dicumentation about rewrite rules are on the apache site. [20:45:18] ok, opera doesn't appear to work at all [20:45:27] flyingparchment: it's a new set of fields with indirect value, if any, while i'm trying to get a damn release out and all kinds of things running; if it's going to be experimental it needs to remain on a branch fo rnow. see my commit message [20:45:35] akahn: anyway, the rule you have rewrites / to /wiki/. You want /wiki/ to /w/index.php?title= [20:45:46] well, except the video build, if you're lucky that will play a video or two between random crashes [20:45:49] thouldn't be so hard to figure out [20:45:58] but all the plugins seem to be broken, at least on my computer [20:46:38] http://digg.com/security/Hackers_strike_third_mainstream_media_site_in_under_24_hours_ABC11_News [20:47:04] is there any way to setup the math functions with out dvips? [20:47:07] where in mediawiki is the most appropriate place to put css stuff? [20:47:20] I thought I saw somewhere one could just use dvipng [20:48:00] akahn: for my wiki i use RewriteRule ^page/(.*) mw/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] (so installation is in mw, and url has "page" at the front.) [20:48:11] grinder: what kind of "stuff"? [20:48:35] Duesentrieb: for instance the mediawiki home page has a bunch of custom boxes etc, those css definitions appear to be in index.php [20:49:00] no, not in index php [20:49:03] Duesentrieb: I wish to create a similar structure with boxes etc, do I put that directly into the index.php or is there a more appropriate place [20:49:05] they are actually in wiki pages [20:49:10] which are served through index.php [20:49:19] those would be the templates yes? [20:49:20] grinder: for customizing your site, you probably want MediaWiki:Common.css or MediaWiki:monobook.css, depending on wether it's skin-specific or not [20:49:21] Edit MediaWiki:Common.css [20:49:31] so brion, this media player I'm working on is looking like it will work well as an extension [20:49:42] whee [20:49:43] grinder: they are system messages, technically, not templates. different namespace, different semantics [20:49:46] I just have to pull out the messages and rename some files and it will be one [20:50:04] I think you missed me talking about it a couple of other times [20:50:27] for video, it uses ffmpeg to generate a JPEG still image [20:50:44] got it, thanks [20:50:55] it can show it on a page in response to $file->transform(), with a "play" button underneath [20:51:09] clicking the play button will detect client capabilities and attempt to play the file [20:51:23] TimStarling: Got a demo anywhere? [20:51:30] Duesentrieb: thank you that works well! what might be a way to make /wiki go to /w/index.php/Main_Page? [20:51:31] no [20:51:35] :( [20:51:53] akahn: it should do that per default [20:51:59] there's a fair bit of core modifications which have to be finalised before I can commit it [20:52:10] ah [20:52:19] I could do a branch I suppose, but plan is to get it done within a couple of days [20:52:21] Duesentrieb: do i need to change anything in LocalSettings.php? [20:52:55] Duesentrieb: ah, it does it with /wiki/ but not with /wiki. without the trailing slash, i get a page not found [20:52:56] akahn: yes, $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1"; [20:53:22] heh "Indeed, much as every man is a potential fabulous drag queen." [20:53:23] 03(FIXED) Enable subpages on the Incubator - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10749 +comment (10brion) [20:54:04] I've done the text description at the top of the image description page, and I've done the "dimensions" column, they both work well for audio or video [20:54:08] akahn: ah - hm... one way would be: Redirect /wiki http://yoursite/wiki/Main_Page [20:54:15] akahn: you can do the same for / if you like [20:54:19] the metadata table is on my to do list [20:54:23] TimStarling: Dare I ask for a couple of screenshots, then? [20:55:54] TimStarling: actul playback is left to the client though? or is it possible to plug in an applet based thingy? [20:56:56] Duesentrieb: it already falls back on applet [20:57:23] oh... neat. i never though of that... [20:57:45] Duesentrieb: thanks for the help, i'll keep tinkering with it [20:58:32] I'm making some screenshots [21:00:21] brion: around ? :'( [21:00:34] busy atm [21:01:29] any ops here, I can't view #wikimedia-tech [21:01:55] the channel is fine [21:01:56] TimStarling: I'd appreciate it if you could consider (at some point) the feasbility of doing transforms on old files; at the moment, it looks like you can only do it for new versions. I might not be looking in the right place, though. [21:02:10] but wikipedia servers seem to be going down the drain [21:02:16] Duesentrieb: not if you are banned [21:02:21] ah :P [21:02:38] I don't know how to use the local icon in my wiki directory [21:02:44] TimStarling: can we try the media player on your test wiki ? [21:02:52] Duesentrieb: wait, if I identify, I can get in [21:03:10] 03(mod) Enable template inclusion from Commons (transclusion => interwiki templates, etc.) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4547 (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [21:03:10] ThomasV: that would be a bit complicated [21:03:25] ha! [21:03:32] robchurch: that would be fairly complicated too, but if there's a will, there's a way [21:03:34] I've narrowed my problem down.. yet again [21:03:39] kiba: local icon?... [21:03:44] TimStarling: oh, good, at least I wasn't just being stupid :P [21:03:57] *VoiceOfAll goes to special:Nuke [21:04:03] kiba: $wgFavicon = "/full/web/path/pretty.ico"; [21:04:04] I took out the following to lines in my includes/Math.php and the process works... Now I have to debug these functions... [21:04:10] still gives me the willies, but I am finding it useful [21:04:17] http://noc.wikimedia.org/~tstarling/video/1.png [21:04:21] also 2, 3 and 4 [21:05:01] the VLC player uses some sort of DirectX surface, that's why it doesn't show up in screenshot 2 [21:05:23] This error gives the failed to parse image, install Math Apps error... [21:05:24] /* if( !file_exists( "$wgTmpDirectory/{$this->hash}.png" ) ) { [21:05:26] return $this->_error( 'math_image_error' ); [21:05:28] } */ [21:05:29] But the function says its only doing a if file exsits... ??? [21:05:32] directx? [21:05:35] 3 shows cortado, our java player, I think it's pretty cool [21:05:56] it looks great [21:05:57] Yes. [21:06:05] VLC kept crashing my browser, and it doesn't have any UI, so I downpreffed it [21:06:05] Then I removed the next funciton: [21:06:06] /* if( !rename( "$wgTmpDirectory/{$this->hash}.png", "$hashpath/{$this->hash}.png" ) ) { [21:06:08] return $this->_error( 'math_output_error' ); [21:06:10] } */ [21:06:11] Which says rename the file if does not exsist? [21:06:13] so now cortado will be used even if VLC is present [21:06:31] Looks pretty good so far. [21:06:35] can any of you media wiki genius shed light as to why these to functions would prohibit the math function from working? [21:06:43] but I've added the selector that you can see there, with a cookie storing the value [21:06:50] fuck, nuke doesn't work on images [21:06:55] Duesentrieb: I mean the GNU FDL icon [21:06:57] Klemo: use the pastebin, please [21:07:22] or I could just steal bandwidth from other wiki by using their icon.. [21:07:49] sorry... no one has been talking to me so i'm mostly talking to my self, and documenting what I've done incause anyone else needs it... [21:07:53] kiba: set $wgRightsIcon to the appropriate path, i supposed [21:08:17] Duesentrieb: ALready have that thing [21:08:27] but I am trying to have two license icon [21:08:35] that won't work cause it is for one thing only [21:09:26] ok, simple stupid question, I want to hide a specific page's title, according to the wiki site, bug 6129 has been fixed, but I can't seem to find documentation on how to hide the title [21:09:40] For which page? [21:09:42] kiba: you'll have to hack the kin for that [21:09:52] Assuming "Title", add the following to MediaWiki:Common.css: [21:10:08] grinder: look at the body tag of the html source. it has a page-specific css class. [21:10:31] grinder: using that at the class/id of the title, you can define a stile that hodes the title of that page [21:10:45] body.page-Title h1.firstHeading { display:none; } [21:10:51] *style that hide. damn [21:11:02] yea, what rob said :) [21:11:05] The class name is "page-", where is the title with spaces => underscores [21:11:07] e.g. [21:11:07] body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display:none; } [21:11:12] ok, got it [21:12:25] Would a 20Mb MySQL-database be too small even for a wiki just for my own use? [21:12:34] mediawiki* [21:12:36] No, too big more like. [21:12:47] I ran a wiki off 5MB of MySQL. [21:12:53] nice [21:13:05] youre serious I hope :D [21:13:12] Depends on how much you put in your wiki. [21:13:12] I am, it wasn't very big. [21:13:53] robchurch: its just for me at work. for small stuff like how to do things and stuff.. dont like having heaps of documents lying around [21:14:07] If it's just for you, are you sure you need something as big as MediaWiki? [21:14:12] MediaWiki is a veritable lard-ass. [21:14:20] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Fuckoff [21:14:30] TimStarling: is the player selector going to be always displayed below the player? would make more sense to move it in preferences I guess [21:15:01] robchurch: maybe not. Im very new to this stuff. I saw our IT-department used wiki to store their information and thought it was a good idea. They said mediawiki was the best. Would you recommend something else? [21:15:08] Tim\Thmoas: Couldn't it be below the player for anons and in prefs for normal users [21:15:08] i like the selector... ut the default should be taken from prefs. [21:15:33] perhaps "show selector" could be a pref, too [21:15:38] MediaWiki is great if you need to run a wiki for quite a few people, if you need the scalability, then nothing else can really compare. [21:15:45] it's eating screen real estate [21:15:53] But if you're only maintaining a few pages for personal use, I'd recommend something with a smaller footprint. [21:16:00] oh duh... does not exsist... which they dont... [21:16:05] TimStarling: Is a demo of this video thing available yet? [21:16:16] so why would the png files not exsist? [21:16:19] Well, I think the selector should be there most of the time. [21:16:23] MinuteElectron: no [21:16:27] :'( [21:16:29] robchurch: you wouldnt happen to have a name of such a wiki? :) thanks for the help btw [21:16:33] You might log on from different machines with different capabilities. [21:16:45] Klemo: because... it wasn't generated? [21:16:51] yeah but why... [21:16:53] lol [21:17:24] robchurch: that also holds for edit window size [21:18:00] so something in that Math.php file is supposed to happen before this "Does not exsist" function happens... but I'm having a hard time identifiing what part of Math.php is supposed to do the render commands... [21:18:38] hmm the first screenshot does not have the selector [21:18:50] Klemo: the one that calls texvc [21:18:50] ThomasV: Where are these screenshots? [21:19:00] 03(mod) Enable template inclusion from Commons (transclusion => interwiki templates, etc.) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4547 (10l8qjvx002) [21:19:00] http://noc.wikimedia.org/~tstarling/video/1.png (also 2,3,4) [21:19:11] can anyone give me an example work flow for the math process... Such as.... Browser Input -> Math.php finds tags -> ocaml verifies the code -> dvips -> gs -> imagemagik ->? [21:19:12] Thank you. [21:19:16] sure [21:19:31] ThomasV: So? Being able to select different players on-the-fly seems convenient to my mind. [21:19:55] sure, but it eats one line [21:20:32] there are 2 mentions of texvc in the Math.php... niether seem like they are runinning a command... [21:21:20] this part yeah? "$cmd = $wgTexvc . ' ' [21:21:25] *brion-office hugs VoiceOfAll [21:21:26] heyyyyy [21:21:39] what no hugs for me biron? [21:21:48] nope [21:21:50] I need comforting... [21:21:59] *brion-office DCCs Klemo a pillow [21:22:01] math is still giving me trouble [21:22:02] biron? byron. [21:22:11] no hugs for people who can't spell my name [21:22:15] biro. [21:22:29] Sorry... I'm a bit Risdexic [21:22:41] VoiceOfAll: i think i briefly you banned you from #wikimedia-tech but i thought i undid it :) [21:22:52] I guess Brion (Brian) is a much better name than biron... [21:22:54] hahaha [21:23:06] brion-office: you did. [21:23:11] un do the ban [21:24:19] yay me [21:24:29] Brion,... (If thats your real name)... I've boiled the errors down, re-installed packages, and for whatever reason, through the wiki the png files are not being created... [21:24:32] yay!!! [21:25:14] I was able to remove the above to lines of code from Math.php and get html/text equasions to work... but no fancy images... :( [21:25:47] I tried downgrading to media wiki 1.6.8 that has math working on my other server, but I get the same deal... [21:26:01] above 2* [21:26:49] can anyone tell me how to make a word in the middle of a page look like the tab at the top of the page? [21:27:07] I turned on all of the debug stuff on my working wiki to see what the output in my /var/log/httpd/error.log should look like... [21:28:30] Klemo: have you tried running texvc from the command line, as the README tells you? [21:28:47] I get a dvips warning on my non functioning wiki... dvips: ! Second input filename (Set/Wise/wiki/images/tmp/1182_bb28e45b29313159a375c827d591aa82.dvi) specified. [21:29:04] Duesentrib: Yeah and it works fine... [21:29:24] dang it... sorry I miss spelled your name too [21:29:57] Klemo: is your friend [21:30:08] right... I forget things like that work in IRC... [21:30:12] Duesentrieb: YAY! [21:30:28] well, depends on your client. doesn't have much to do with irc as such. [21:30:40] right... chatzilla supports that... [21:31:34] As far as that warning above, the .dvi file does exist just no png file gets created... [21:31:54] so, dvipng doesn't work [21:32:42] not through the wiki... on the command line all is well [21:33:35] which is what's making me loose hair... [21:33:36] I'll leave you to argue amongst yourselves about media player selectors, I'm going to bed [21:33:49] winamp roXor [21:33:52] :) [21:37:04] Hmm, interesting. [21:37:15] TimStarling: are you starting an argument and running? :D [21:40:19] LOL @ Anthony being put on moderation on wikitech-l and foundation-l. [21:43:43] *kiba ponders [21:47:34] 03(mod) Enable template inclusion from Commons (transclusion => interwiki templates, etc.) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4547 (10robchur) [21:49:47] *robchurch hates it when people use the term "copyright violation" [21:49:52] The correct term is to "infringe" [21:50:21] *kiba hates it when people assume a material not copyrighted because it doesn't say if it is copyrighted or not [21:51:34] Anyway, on a cheery note, I see SCO's down 71%. [21:51:52] -71.79% [21:53:19] SCO's FUD spreading did not work for SCO [21:53:40] you see, ligitation shouldn't be pursued as a viable business model anyway [21:53:45] it is wrong on so many level [21:54:17] unethical and does not make much business sense [21:55:12] Since when did business sense and ethics have to flow in the same direction? :P [21:56:07] hello, is there a way to show the list or at least the number of users watching a page? [21:56:13] can anyone help me make some css code that makes a word look like this tab: http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4589/css4thiscb8.png ? [21:56:24] $wgAllowPageInfo and action=info [21:56:38] to me it looks just like what some people use in some wiki pages, however, i can't find any right now =/ [21:57:07] hack 1 finished [21:57:21] time for the next hack [21:57:27] enable link to creative common [21:57:45] for footer [21:58:16] 03aaron * r24759 10/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php: *Enforce some limits, may adjust later [22:01:07] 03(NEW) Strict Standards: Non-static method WatchedItem:: fromUserTitle() should not be called statically - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10909 minor; low; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (barkerjr) [22:01:32] *robchurch giggles [22:01:33] "Apparently some of the chickens were so desperate to get away that they ran into the wall and died. Others suffered heart attacks." [22:01:47] lol - where d'you read that? [22:02:25] oh man [22:02:33] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/13/poultrycide/ [22:02:35] is there a pastie bot here? [22:02:42] "Drunken German joyrider totals 300 chickens" [22:02:55] *kiba tried hacking but it failed in the end [22:03:42] I am trying to add a link for the footer so I can used it to refer to a creative common page [22:03:51] http://pastie.caboo.se/87361 [22:04:29] there is $1 for GNU FDL but I want to be able add another link for Creative Common [22:04:32] help! [22:05:05] kiba: no [22:05:14] what? [22:06:10] to the pastebot [22:07:33] *kiba do not understand the complex ways of the mediawiki [22:07:44] *kiba got contents to add too! [22:08:04] <^demon> I thought about working on making a Special:Upgrade, so wikis can be updated without using the CLI to update. Thoughts? [22:08:06] brion_away: Your testwiki is broken: http://test.leuksman.com/view/FiverAlpha:Community_Portal [22:08:07] I will make this wiki of mine even better than Wikipedia for the coverage of Free games! [22:08:08] 03(FIXED) Strict Standards: Non-static method WatchedItem::fromUserTitle( ) should not be called statically - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10909 +comment (10robchur) [22:08:32] ^demon: They already can, simply re-run the setup script. [22:09:02] <^demon> MinuteElectron: I mean without having to do that and risk mucking up their LocalSettings. [22:09:14] ^demon: There is no risk. [22:09:49] I've already done quite a bit of work on that front. [22:09:54] <^demon> MinuteElectron: I guess there's no *need* for it, just a thought really. [22:09:54] is anybody going to help me figure out how to make this work? [22:10:26] it is the last hack I needed to make before I go public [22:10:27] robchurch: You have, please extrapolate. [22:10:36] Extrapolate? [22:10:51] Explain, I am interested (in the least rude way possible). [22:11:09] Anyway, I suggest not using a special page to do it. In certain circumstances, you may be unable to load the wiki at all without doing the database updates. [22:11:24] Well, you need to go and re-read the meaning of "extrapolate" [22:11:55] *MinuteElectron will. [22:12:04] *MinuteElectron will also read the meaning of arbitrary. [22:13:12] 03(mod) Hide categories in printable style sheets - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10886 +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:13:33] <^demon> ^ What a silly bug [22:13:44] it is a mod! [22:13:56] anyway, there is one last hack I need to do [22:14:01] but I don't know how to do it right [22:14:07] Ok, lol - I had a real bad definition of extraplolate in my mind. Sorry robchurch. [22:14:36] <^demon> Bug 10886 is (as far as I can tell) a request by a single user to make a rather major CSS change. [22:14:46] *kiba is nor a mediawiki expert or a web developer [22:16:52] it is difficult to get help in this channel.. [22:17:09] it is free of charge though [22:19:42] How ironic, I almost submitted a page with {{subst:unsigned}} and a comment on without signing myself. [22:20:15] kiba: Exactly what are you trying to do? [22:21:31] 03rainman * r24760 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/src/org/wikimedia/lsearch/ (11 files in 6 dirs): [22:21:31] Add: [22:21:31] * tool to extract titles with ranks [22:21:31] Experimental: [22:21:31] * metric to find related articles based on rank of other articles [22:21:32] that link to both of them - still in experimental form, needs [22:21:34] refactoring [22:22:01] robchurch: trying to enable the ability to use a creative common link in the footer in the copyright notice [22:23:20] 03rainman * r24761 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/src/org/wikimedia/lsearch/util/ExtractTitles.java: Forgot the return statement when arguments are bad [22:41:42] 03(NEW) Update for French language (fr) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10910 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (le.korrigan) [22:46:44] Is there some place I can get the code for the MediaWiki Skins? [22:48:29] /skins [22:48:57] [[/skins]] on mediawiki.org? [22:50:03] Phil_E: /skins in the MediaWIki source code. [22:51:25] how do i get the MediaWiki source code? [22:51:38] wagh [22:51:43] PHP is scolding me about timezones :( [22:52:37] Phil_E: There are various ways, look at svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/skins [22:53:36] Uh...not that code. [22:53:43] Sorry, I know I'm being really unclear. [22:54:03] I meant like the CSS for the skins, like MonoBook.css [22:54:39] /skins/monobook/main.css [22:54:45] there are lots of iles. [22:54:48] s/iles/files [22:56:15] does that include everything, like body{}, #p-cactions, etc.? [23:00:57] MinuteElectron:Is this everything about MonoBook's CSS that can be edited? http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/skins/monobook/main.css?revision=24447&view=markup [23:02:57] no [23:03:01] there is more in other files [23:03:09] look at the directory /skins/monobook [23:04:13] 03rainman * r24762 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/src/org/wikimedia/lsearch/util/ExtractTitles.java: Print dbkeys and not ordinary titles [23:05:40] /skins/monobook has the complete CSS? [23:06:05] there's probably also stuff in /skins/common [23:06:13] and some css is generated [23:08:46] Man, that editing toolbar is disgusting with images off. [23:09:52] Duesentrieb: how's gadgets coming along? [23:10:06] I always thought those images could be plain text instead [23:11:22] It looks downright horrible without 'em. [23:12:14] I mean they could've been text buttons from the start (imho) [23:12:28] 03(mod) Suggestion searching - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7288 (10rainman) [23:12:45] Too bulky. [23:14:49] is there an option where pages have to be approved by a sysop or something before they can be posted [23:15:27] i meant to put a questions mark but i'm still not use to my laptop keyboard! [23:17:39] 03(mod) addHtml in Templates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10904 +comment (10abstractdesigns) [23:21:52] budershank: no there is not such extension. tha twould not be a wiki, anyway. tagging revisions as "unapproved" will be supported... Really Soon Now (tm) [23:22:09] will it? :) [23:22:18] robchurch: the Gadgets things is waiting for someone to pick it apart, basically. I added caching the other night. [23:22:26] VoiceOfAll: i dunno, you tell us [23:23:24] robchurch: anyway, i'll be offline for a couple of days. maybe i'll start prodding brion into looking at it after that. [23:25:19] robchurch: oh, yea, that remindes me: how's the special render thing (highliting) for common.css done? i'd love to get rid of the Special page for previewing the gadgets list. although it might be confusing to people... it would not behave like normal wiki text. only kind of. otoh, it would be more WYSIWYM. [23:25:45] Hook. [23:26:11] 14(DUP) Sanitizer damages block content (especially
        ) in output when wrapped in - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10901 +comment (10nospam) [23:26:14] 03(mod) Tidy sometimes goes ballistic when a block-level element is wrapped in an inline element - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9737 +comment (10nospam) [23:26:14] 03(mod) Enable subpages on the Incubator - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10749 (10robin_1273) [23:26:17] You might add a hook to Article::view() to handle it. [23:27:33] Has anyone ever toyed with using a file based database rather than MySQL as a MediaWiki back-end database? [23:27:46] hm, perhaps. injecting my own implementation of Article would also work (done that before) [23:27:56] ugly, but very powerfull, that. [23:28:07] *robchurch nods [23:28:18] I was considering suggesting that, but seemed a bit overkill. :P [23:28:30] Duesentrieb: it really just needs code review [23:29:47] VoiceOfAll: indeed [23:30:13] and maybe some testing on meidawiki.org or some other low profile wiki [23:30:38] though there are not many js gadgets there to play with, i guess... [23:30:46] I've got it on amidaniel's [23:31:49] anyway... the order of initialization stuff still sucks. gadgets should be loaded before user js/css. but I didn't see a clean way to do this [23:35:26] hola [23:36:59] robchurch: Would an XML database replacement be on your list of incredibly bad ideas? [23:37:12] *robchurch giggles [23:37:25] It would be slow, and a pure abuse of XML. [23:37:33] hola el guien en espaƱol [23:38:12] robchurch: Hmm, would a non-xml text-based database replacement be better? [23:38:40] You can't replace a database with a non-database and expect everything to be hunky-dory. [23:39:13] robchurch: I know, I am just thinking of how to combat a problem I have. [23:39:37] I need to be able to run MediaWiki without a database engine. [23:40:04] Give up. [23:40:16] I thought I could maybe modify MediaWiki to have a non-database back end in my 10 days of code. [23:40:30] sqlite [23:40:31] I already have two projects. [23:40:43] flyingparchment: Not my server. [23:40:49] flyingparchment made a suggestion. Although it's still a database. ;) [23:40:54] you don't need a server for sqlite, that's why it's lite [23:40:59] Oh, ok. [23:41:12] it accesses a disk file directly [23:41:25] I see, would I have to modify MediaWiki or would it run under MySQL code? [23:41:33] You would need to modify MediaWiki. [23:41:39] you'd need to write a new database class and make some amount of changes [23:41:41] Ok. [23:41:48] can't say how much off hand, you could probably get basic functionality in 10 days [23:41:58] Sounds funky, maybe not for my 10 days of code though. [23:42:06] Too much to learn without the internet. [23:42:25] Since I am going to be doing all my coding without the internet I have to have background knowledge. [23:42:36] Maybe for my next project. [23:43:21] I guess my two current projects will keep me going for 10 days (Making back-end setup script and cli+web installers, and redoing the skin system). [23:44:08] 03(mod) addHtml in Templates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10904 (10robchur) [23:47:34] *robchurch ponders [23:47:54] I've written a simple star rating extension, but it underwhelms me. It's not interactive, and I feel it should be. [23:48:04] what does interactive mean [23:48:05] 03(mod) Tidy sometimes goes ballistic when a block-level element is wrapped in an inline element - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9737 (10N/A) [23:48:15] You can't, for instance, click on the stars to change the rating. [23:48:20] ah [23:48:20] It's just a dumb parser hook. [23:48:27] i'd say it should support that and use ajax (!) [23:48:34] that's how i'd expect it to work as a user [23:48:41] Well, it could do. [23:48:49] didn't wikia already write such a thing, though? [23:49:15] Not sure, and no bothered. I don't really care what Wikia write, and I don't write code purely for product's sake. [23:49:27] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AjaxRatingScript [23:50:20] 03(NEW) Add AM/PM function - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10911 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (NavouWiki) [23:50:54] Duesentrieb: That requires quite a lot of effort, though. It isn't just a question of installing an extension. [23:51:29] It also doesn't seem to do much for caches, etc. [23:51:43] you'd only need to invalidate cache when someone votes [23:51:51] Which it doesn't seem to do. [23:52:16] also, you'd want integration with categories and stuff [23:52:22] like ways to find highly rated articles [23:52:56] yea, that thing looks like an fugly hack [23:53:52] flyingparchment: That would be a bit trickier, but theoretically possible. [23:54:32] 03(mod) Add date preferences incorporating AM/PM etc. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10911 summary (10robchur) [23:55:19] If you're stashing ratings in a table (which you'd likely be doing) then you can just sort on the rating column and have a special page. For category integration, you'd need to do some more work. [23:56:43] Categories themselves could be a bit more interactive - hide/show redirects, sort by name/size/etc. [23:56:59] Ajaxories [23:58:18] 03(NEW) Sortable backlinks - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10912 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (eep) [23:58:34] *robchurch doesn't dare to discuss bold new features in case domas is listening