[00:01:08] <Drakeson>	Another question, has someone tried the LZMA compression as an alternative format for the regular database dumps?
[00:04:41] <Drakeson>	is the syntax fixed now, or they might be modifications in the future?
[00:05:11] <avar>	the latter
[00:05:55] <Drakeson>	e.g., does it evolve gradually, as people feel like it, or there are enforced regulations for it?
[00:06:32] <Drakeson>	does the parser change regularly? (although for minor changes)
[00:07:48] <avar>	it grows like cancer
[00:08:08] <Drakeson>	I want to double check if it is really reasonable to give it a try (building an alternative parser)
[00:09:05] <avar>	start looking at the source of the current parser and the parser tests
[00:09:23] <avar>	and learn about things like ast's:)
[00:09:54] <Drakeson>	I am reading stuff for it now,
[00:10:52] <Drakeson>	but before even starting to look at the code (I have grown some fear about it), I think I should make sure it is sane.
[00:13:05] <Drakeson>	So do you think it is reasonably doable?
[00:20:08] <Drakeson>	OK, thanks a lot. Back to reading ...
[01:40:41] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Enable subpages on the Incubator - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10749  high->normal; +comment (10robin_1273)
[03:21:37] <CIA-1>	03rotem * r24800 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Update.
[03:24:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add Simple Forms MediaWiki extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10928  (10eep)
[03:33:28] <AhDiCt3D>	Can someone help me perform a dump rebuilt i dont really know how to do it under windows
[03:42:06] <Ignirtoq>	is it possible to set MediaWiki so anyone can edit an article's discussion page, but only, say, Sysops can edit the articles themselves?
[03:43:07] <Pathoschild>	Yes.
[03:43:18] <Ignirtoq>	can you direct me to a resource that outlines how to do this?
[03:43:20] <Pathoschild>	< http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >
[03:43:41] <Ignirtoq>	I tried what it suggested and it didn't work
[03:44:06] <Ignirtoq>	either one can edit nothing or one can edit everything (except protected) by those settings
[03:44:08] <Pathoschild>	What version of MediaWiki do you have?
[03:44:19] <Ignirtoq>	1.8.4
[03:45:01] <Pathoschild>	The "Anonymous users can only comment" doesn't work?
[03:45:03] <Ignirtoq>	specifically, the last example allowed anon to edit an article AND its discussion
[03:45:24] <Pathoschild>	Hmm... it shouldn't.
[03:45:46] <Ignirtoq>	Looking at the options in the tables above, "editpage" is not listed at all.
[03:45:52] <Ignirtoq>	It only appears in that example.
[03:46:05] <Ignirtoq>	And just using "edit" kills editing discussion pages.
[03:46:25] <Pathoschild>	...try looking through < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >
[03:47:51] <Ignirtoq>	Those all discuss permissions for editing certain articles by certain types of users, not editing just discussion pages.
[03:48:22] <Pathoschild>	There's a section on restricting entire namespaces, no?
[03:49:29] <Ignirtoq>	Is 1.8.4 classified as "Pre-1.10"?
[03:49:43] <Pathoschild>	Yep.
[03:50:43] <Pathoschild>	The 1 is the major version number; the 8 and 10 are minor version numbers.
[03:51:41] <Ignirtoq>	Right, I just always get confused when I see 1.8 < 1.10 when in my mind it should be 1.08 < 1.10.
[03:52:19] <Pathoschild>	Well, 1.08 would be equivalent. :)
[03:52:27] <Ignirtoq>	Either way, I'll carefully try upgrading and then using that section.  Thanks for your help! :)
[03:52:54] <Pathoschild>	Welcome. :)
[03:54:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Style auto-completion fields - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10875  +comment (10eep)
[03:57:27] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow wiki markup in forms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10933 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (eep)
[03:59:41] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Merge forms and templates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10934 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (eep)
[04:02:41] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Re-format/style facts section - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10935 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (eep)
[04:05:46] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Undeclared relationship in template unrecognized on page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10936 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (eep)
[04:42:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) page creation wizard - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10688  (10charles)
[05:01:39] <therealnanotube>	hey all. :) is there a way to make an automatic redirect to an external page? i know that "#REDIRECT [[Main_Page]] would redirect to an internal wiki page, but that doesn't work for an external page (e.g, google.com). please help? :)
[05:03:19] <Pathoschild>	therealnanotube: I don't think so, but I'm not a developer.
[05:03:22] *Pathoschild 	goes off to bed.
[05:04:23] <therealnanotube>	Pathoschild: hmm, well, thanks for your input. i'm hoping someone else will jump in with more positive insight. :)
[05:08:05] <therealnanotube>	anybody have any ideas?
[05:09:08] <Raymond_>	therealnanotube: never heard about such a feature. 
[05:10:54] <therealnanotube>	hm... can you think of any underhanded way to accomplish it? keeping in mind that i own the wiki, and can do any kind of admin stuff on the backend?
[05:11:26] <therealnanotube>	can't tweak the apache server config, but can edit mediawiki code, etc.
[05:15:57] <therealnanotube>	any ideas?
[05:16:13] <therealnanotube>	or am i basically screwed? ;)
[05:18:07] <Raymond_>	therealnanotube: hack the code :)
[05:19:01] <therealnanotube>	ehrm, well, yea, that's what i was kind of assuming i'd have to do, but... i was hoping for some hints :) diving into a big lump of php code without direction is kinda... scary :)
[05:43:21] <therealnanotube>	ok, so there's stuff in redirect.php that looks to be on the right track, with the header("location") bit and all... but doesn't seem to be actually used by an internal redirect (when i edit it to cripple it, doesn't change the redirects)...
[05:48:17] <therealnanotube>	anyone can tell me how i can affect the page redirects? editing redirect.php doesn't seem to do anything (the changes show up when calling redirect.php directly, but not when looking at actual page redirects)
[05:56:12] <therealnanotube>	anybody alive?
[06:06:35] <spaz>	hello
[06:06:40] <spaz>	i have a strange problem...
[06:06:48] <spaz>	nobody can log into my wiki
[06:06:53] <spaz>	or register, even
[06:06:55] <spaz>	:-s
[06:06:58] <spaz>	and i can't log out
[06:08:27] <spaz>	any ideas?
[06:10:58] <therealnanotube>	maybe your sessions directory is read-only?
[06:11:04] <spaz>	hmm
[06:11:23] <spaz>	where would it be?
[06:11:53] <therealnanotube>	in localsettings.php, its set with "session_save_path", that should point to where your sessions dir is
[06:12:17] <spaz>	hmm
[06:12:44] <therealnanotube>	found it?
[06:12:55] <spaz>	no.
[06:12:59] <spaz>	hrm
[06:13:16] <spaz>	it's not even in the file
[06:14:17] <therealnanotube>	ah... then it's probably not set specifically, which means its in the default location
[06:14:28] <therealnanotube>	unfortunately... i don't know offhand where that default location is :) gotta google it 
[06:14:32] <spaz>	:-(
[06:15:58] <therealnanotube>	maybe the default is in /tmp... in which case probably the problem is not what i was guessing it was...
[06:33:59] <spaz>	:-S
[06:34:03] <spaz>	it didn't work :-(
[06:34:05] <spaz>	wtf
[06:34:50] <Splarka>	so, that Project: namespace redirect to $wgMetaNamespace/$wgSitename... if it were not working, what file and/or setting/variable might be at fault? 
[06:35:17] <Splarka>	(that is, what if Project:Foo was in ns-0 for some crazy reason)
[06:40:44] <CIA-1>	03david * r24801 10/branches/liquidthreads/skins/monobook/main.css: possible IE7 fix
[06:45:51] *spaz 	kicks his server
[07:15:52] <keir_>	is there any way to reset a MediaWiki user's password as an admin
[07:16:14] <keir_>	(my MW site has no access to SMTP so we cant send out password reminders)
[07:30:20] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) uploads of new file versions in upload log - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10937 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (lejonel)
[07:51:30] <CIA-1>	03wegge * r24802 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDa.php: New translations for da
[08:33:47] <Sundance_Raphael>	good morning
[08:34:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Replace normal spaces before percent (%) signs with non-breaking spaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10334  (10mike)
[08:40:43] <Sonjaaa>	hi?
[08:40:59] <Sonjaaa>	how do i put a link to a page called [[history]] in the sidebar
[08:41:07] <Sonjaaa>	without it automatically thinking i want to link to "page history"
[08:43:50] <Splarka>	MediaWiki:Sidebar uses MediaWiki:Namespace message names by default
[08:44:02] <Splarka>	the reason for this is to allow translation in other languages
[08:44:25] <Sonjaaa>	ok
[08:44:30] <Splarka>	so when you say ** History|History it checks MediaWiki:History and grabs the contents
[08:44:35] <Sonjaaa>	so how do i link to a page called "history"
[08:44:48] <Splarka>	** :History|Something should work
[08:44:51] <Sonjaaa>	ok
[08:45:34] <Splarka>	do you have any need for it to change in other languages? if so, create MediaWiki:History-link with contents History
[08:45:42] <Splarka>	then link it via ** History-link|whatever
[08:45:57] <Splarka>	and then MediaWiki:History-link/es can be the spanish version of the page
[08:46:00] <Splarka>	etc
[08:46:32] <Sonjaaa>	how do i remove the toolbar?
[08:51:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Update for Swedish localisation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10938 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (lejonel)
[08:52:03] <Sonjaaa>	thanks Splarka
[08:52:05] <Sonjaaa>	you rule
[08:52:19] <Sonjaaa>	how do I use uppercase in the sidebar?
[08:53:03] <Splarka>	the links or the <h5>?
[08:53:22] <Sonjaaa>	*Lore
[08:53:22] <Sonjaaa>	**Calendar|calendar
[08:53:22] <Sonjaaa>	**Climate|climate
[08:53:26] <Sonjaaa>	the "Lore" part
[08:53:38] <Splarka>	.portlet h5 { text-transform: none; }
[08:53:56] <Splarka>	in MediaWiki:Monobook.css
[08:54:02] <Sonjaaa>	thankssssss
[08:55:55] <Sonjaaa>	you know so much!!!
[08:56:03] <Sonjaaa>	is there a way to remove the toolbar (below the sidebar) altogether?
[08:56:29] <Sonjaaa>	or edit it
[08:56:47] <Sonjaaa>	sorry i meant toolbox
[08:57:04] <Splarka>	#p-tb {display:none;}  but this often contains important tools
[08:57:09] <Splarka>	can't be edited really
[08:57:14] <Splarka>	(except with javascript)
[08:58:26] <Sonjaaa>	i moved the tools to my sidebar
[08:58:30] <Sonjaaa>	so i want to remove the toolbox now
[08:59:00] <Splarka>	#p-tb { display: none; }
[08:59:14] <Sonjaaa>	you're so smrt
[08:59:31] <Splarka>	but things like 'permanent link' can't be recreated in the sidebar very easily
[08:59:53] <Sonjaaa>	hm that's true
[09:00:04] <Sonjaaa>	if my logo is not 150 pixels high
[09:00:10] <Sonjaaa>	then how can i move up the whole sidebar
[09:00:22] <Sonjaaa>	it seems too low right now because it assumes my logo is 150 pixels high, i think
[09:00:31] <Sonjaaa>	too much space between the logo and the sidebar
[09:00:39] <Splarka>	{{FULLURL:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|oldid={{whatever the magic word for revision id is}}}} might work.. but not sure
[09:01:43] <Splarka>	also, you can't do complex things in the sidebar, special pages shsouldn't have "what links here" "primtable version" "permanent link" "related changes"
[09:01:54] <Splarka>	hmm
[09:02:00] <Splarka>	#column-one { padding-top: 100px; }
[09:02:23] <Splarka>	the default is 160px; for a logo about 150x150
[09:02:28] <Sonjaaa>	ok
[09:02:32] <Splarka>	so, take your logo height, and add about 10 
[09:02:37] <Sonjaaa>	cool
[09:02:45] <Sonjaaa>	how did you learn so much!!?
[09:02:48] <Sonjaaa>	you know alls.
[09:03:32] <Splarka>	asking lots of questions, bugging lots of people, viewing lots of page sources, X_X
[09:03:38] <Sonjaaa>	cool
[09:03:41] <Sonjaaa>	i'm the 1st and 2nd one
[09:03:50] <Sonjaaa>	what's your proudest mediawiki you work on?
[09:03:59] <Splarka>	I actually get paid to do this (not here though, which is why I try not to hang out here, too easy to forget that)
[09:04:41] <Splarka>	probably en.wp
[09:05:02] <Splarka>	but I work for www.wikia.com 
[09:05:08] *Splarka 	spamvertises
[09:06:46] <Ace_NoOne>	hi all - one of the most commonly requested features is per-page protection / ACLs
[09:06:59] <Splarka>	so, anyone have any idea why Project: might be broken as a canonical namespace? all I can figure out is it is something in Namespace.php (like changing NS_PROJECT to another string) or a hack to Title.php
[09:07:00] <Ace_NoOne>	now, we all know that's problematic because MW was never designed for this
[09:07:22] <Ace_NoOne>	however, what if the wiki page contents were encrypted with JavaScript?
[09:08:25] <CIA-1>	03raymond * r24803 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesSv.php: 
[09:08:25] <CIA-1>	* (bug 10938) Update Swedish translations
[09:08:25] <CIA-1>	 Patch by Lejonel
[09:09:09] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Update for Swedish localisation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10938  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[09:10:38] <Sonjaaa>	is it hard to get rid of index.php ?
[09:10:44] <Sonjaaa>	for more elegant url?
[09:12:34] <Splarka>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Using_a_very_short_URL
[09:12:40] <Splarka>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:URL
[09:13:00] <CIA-1>	03raymond * r24804 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): 
[09:13:00] <CIA-1>	* (bug 10892) Update Chinese translations
[09:13:00] <CIA-1>	 Patch by Shinjiman
[09:13:31] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Update for Cantonese language (zh-yue) #52, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese (PRC) and Chinese (Taiwan) localisation (zh-cn/zh-tw) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10892  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[09:16:58] <CIA-1>	03raymond * r24805 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesJa.php: 
[09:16:58] <CIA-1>	* (bug 10888) typo
[09:16:58] <CIA-1>	* Removing outdated messages
[09:18:07] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Typo in Japanese translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10888  major->normal; high->normal; +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[09:38:32] <mithro>	is there a way to change the title of a page?
[09:39:32] <av16ar>	hello everybody
[09:40:28] <ialexandre>	mithro: {{DISPLAYTITLE:...}}
[09:40:42] <av16ar>	Is there a way to count how many times a given template is used (backlink count)?
[09:40:45] <ialexandre>	replace ... by the title to display
[09:41:30] <mithro>	ialexandre: thanks
[09:43:28] <mithro>	ialexandre: hrm, it doesn't seem to work - it just says "Template:DISPLAYTITLE:<.....>"
[09:43:47] <ialexandre>	mithro: wich version of mediawiki ?
[09:44:45] <mithro>	ialexandre: how do I find out?
[09:44:56] <ialexandre>	mithro: Special:Version
[09:45:35] <mithro>	ialexandre: 1.9.3
[09:46:15] <av16ar>	the counts are given here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Mostlinkedtemplates&limit=500&offset=0
[09:46:29] <av16ar>	but I don't know how to get the count for a given template
[09:46:47] <av16ar>	does someone know how to?
[09:48:16] <furetto76>	anybody knows if there's an extensions for genealogical tree?
[09:48:27] <mithro>	ialexandre: any idea?
[09:49:19] <ialexandre>	mithro: $wgAllowDisplayTitle=true; in LocalSettings.php
[09:49:36] <mithro>	ialexandre: okay, will have to get admin to do that
[09:51:03] <ialexandre>	mithro: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowDisplayTitle
[09:52:14] <mithro>	ialexandre: hrm, that requires the title to normalise to the same topic?
[09:52:58] <ialexandre>	mithro: otherwise there is JavaScript
[09:53:15] <mithro>	:/
[09:53:34] <mithro>	I want the page to be "CFP" and the display title to be "Call for Participation"
[09:55:41] <CIA-1>	03mark * r24806 10/trunk/routing/twistedbgp/src/bgp.py: Add consumer/producer interface, give ordering to IPPrefix, fix up some other stuff... and move bgp.py outside of twisted for now.
[10:06:46] <thermoman>	is there a way to find articles which link non-existing articles?
[10:06:52] <thermoman>	is there a way to find articles which link to non-existing articles?
[10:09:16] <thermoman>	or: to find non-existing articles which were linked in other articles in the same wiki
[10:09:26] <thermoman>	aka: find articles which need to be written
[10:09:49] <mithro>	ialexandre: it appears that page lies, I can use anything in the display title
[10:11:17] <ialexandre>	mithro: DISPLAYTITLE only works if the title to display is the same as the article's title
[10:11:51] <mithro>	ialexandre: it appears not, I can put {{DISPLAYTITLE: Call for Participation}} and it seems to work fine
[10:14:37] <ialexandre>	mithro: maybe 1.9 doesn't compare the two titles :)
[10:15:14] <ialexandre>	thermoman: Special:Wantedpages ? (but it's no more updated on the wikimedia wikis)
[10:18:35] <mithro>	ialexandre: thanks for your help
[10:23:37] <CIA-1>	03tstarling * r24807 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/PEAR/File_Ogg/File/ (Ogg/Bitstream.php Ogg/Media.php Ogg.php): 
[10:23:37] <CIA-1>	* Major changes to the container parser. Fixed page splitting bug.
[10:23:37] <CIA-1>	* Added overall length calculation for multiplexed streams, fixed a length calculation bug
[10:23:37] <CIA-1>	* Fixed vendor='' case, seen in ffmpeg output (which was broken in other ways anyway)
[10:25:15] <Misza13>	I have installed Special:DeletedContributions on a wiki. The page is accessible to sysops as planned, but no link to it shows up in the regular Special:Contributions page. Any ideas why?
[10:25:59] <Raymond_>	Misza13: which MW version do you use?
[10:26:18] <Sundance_Raphael>	hi Raymond_ 
[10:26:25] <Raymond_>	hi Sundance_Raphael :)
[10:26:36] <Misza13>	Raymond_: 1.11alpha
[10:27:24] <Misza13>	I have updated all .php files under includes/ from subversion today, but still no luck
[10:27:25] <Raymond_>	Misza13: the lastest from trunk? only admins will see the link on Special:Contributions
[10:27:36] <Raymond_>	ok
[10:28:32] <Misza13>	'crats, actually: $wgGroupPermissions['bureaucrat']['deletedhistory'] = true;
[10:29:22] <Misza13>	again, the page works, but the ContributionsToolLinks apparently doesn't work
[10:29:36] <Misza13>	*hook
[10:41:07] <Misza13>	hmm, disregard that for a moment, it seems not all includes might have been updated...
[10:41:51] <thermoman>	ialexandre: i'll give it a try, thanks
[10:43:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Symmetrical links between wikipedia pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=239  +comment (10eep)
[10:47:21] <Misza13>	ok, now it works :)
[10:47:46] <Raymond_>	\o/
[10:47:51] <Misza13>	on a side note, does anyone know of a good svn client written in pure php?
[10:48:01] <Misza13>	I have to administer a site without the official one installed
[10:48:23] <Misza13>	and can only update by running svn up locally and copying it over via ftp
[10:48:46] *Raymond_ 	uses TortoiseSVN / WinXP
[10:49:27] <Misza13>	yeah, well, locally I can have all I please
[10:49:40] <Misza13>	but I can access the site only by ftp
[10:49:47] <Misza13>	and there's no svn installed there
[10:49:48] <Raymond_>	:(
[10:49:48] <TimStarling>	megacommit coming
[10:50:03] <Sundance_Raphael>	Tim?
[10:50:20] <CIA-1>	03tstarling * r24808 10/trunk/ (35 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[10:50:20] <CIA-1>	Basic integrated audio/video support, with Ogg implementation.
[10:50:20] <CIA-1>	* JavaScript video player based loosely on Greg Maxwell's player
[10:50:20] <CIA-1>	* Image page text snippet customisation
[10:50:20] <CIA-1>	* Abstraction of transform parameters in the parser. Introduced Linker::makeImageLink2().
[10:50:21] <CIA-1>	* Made canRender(), mustRender() depend on file, not just on handler. Moved width=0, height=0 checking to ImageHandler::canRender(), since audio streams have width=height=0 but should be rendered.
[10:50:26] <CIA-1>	Also:
[10:51:09] <CIA-1>	03tstarling * r24809 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DjVuImage.php: Don't show warning if the file is missing
[10:51:14] <TimStarling>	woo
[10:52:11] <TimStarling>	I was getting nervous about the lack of backups, so it was time to commit
[10:53:42] <Raymond_>	wow \o/
[10:54:58] <CIA-1>	03tstarling * r24810 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (OggHandler.php OggHandler_body.php ext.php): switching to standard extension file structure
[10:55:44] <CIA-1>	03tstarling * r24811 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (OggHandler.php ext.php): switching to standard extension file structure
[11:05:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Translation Mediawiki into french language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10939 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bertrand.grondin)
[11:06:22] <Misza13>	ok, now instead of [edit] section links I see "<editsection-brackets>" :S
[11:07:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Translation Mediawiki into french language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10939  (10bertrand.grondin)
[11:13:49] <CIA-1>	03tstarling * r24812 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/cortado-ovt-stripped-0.2.2.jar: May as well bundle this, only 193K.
[11:21:24] <CIA-1>	03raymond * r24813 10/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/SpamBlacklist.i18n.php: * (bug 10939) Update French for SpamBlacklist
[11:23:43] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Translation Mediawiki into french language - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10939   +patch; +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[11:31:53] <CIA-1>	03tstarling * r24814 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (OggHandler.php OggHandler_body.php README): README file, invocation guard, bug fix.
[11:45:45] <CIA-1>	03nhuffschmid * r24815 10/trunk/wap/hawiki/hawiki_parser_hawpedia.inc: fixed link parser
[12:36:05] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Disable anonymous access to create anypage in Wikimania 2007 Official Site - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10940 15enhancement; high; Wikimedia: Site requests; (alexsh)
[12:37:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Disable anonymous access to create anypage in Wikimania 2007 Official Site - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10940   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[13:00:12] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) namespace creation request for fr.wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10813  +comment (10thomasV1)
[13:13:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add Simple Forms MediaWiki extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10928  (10robchur)
[13:33:31] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Sidebar display issue in Firefox - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10941 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (innocentkiller)
[13:34:06] <CIA-1>	03yaron * r24816 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/libs/scriptaculous-js-1.7.0/test/: Removing all of 'test' directory
[13:34:45] <CIA-1>	03yaron * r24817 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_AddPage.php: Removed unnecessary Scriptaculous includes
[13:35:41] <CIA-1>	03yaron * r24818 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_CreateTemplate.php: Replaced SQL queries to get attribute and relation names with much better ones
[13:38:09] <CIA-1>	03yaron * r24819 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: 
[13:38:09] <CIA-1>	Improved formatting, added Jeffrey Stuckman's "chooser" functionality, fixed
[13:38:09] <CIA-1>	bug for autocomplete arrays with no values
[13:38:42] <CIA-1>	03yaron * r24820 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (INSTALL includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php): New version - 0.5.1
[13:56:33] <PunkRock>	/asdjfklasf
[14:11:48] <brion-office>	morning
[14:12:26] <CIA-1>	03erik * r24821 10/trunk/tools/planet/en/config.ini: +moulin offline reader blog with permission
[14:14:00] <^demon>	brion-office: Good morning.
[14:14:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Disable anonymous access to create anypage in Wikimania 2007 Official Site - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10940  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[14:17:43] <CIA-1>	03raymond * r24822 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesRo.php): 
[14:17:43] <CIA-1>	* Fix syntax error in translations of magic words in Romanian language
[14:17:43] <CIA-1>	* Removed untranslated lines from magic words array, file rebuilt.
[14:17:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Disable anonymous access to create anypage in Wikimania 2007 Official Site - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10940  (10cbrown1023)
[14:18:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API returns [] as an empty return value instead of {} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10887  (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[14:32:57] <TimStarling>	does anyone know anything about java applets in web browsers?
[14:33:26] <TimStarling>	my video player appears to be badly broken when there is more than one instance on a page
[14:33:53] <TimStarling>	is there any sharing between applet instances, officially?
[14:34:01] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) namespace creation request for fr.wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10813  +comment (10jeluf)
[14:34:39] <ThomasV_>	JeLuF: thanks
[14:34:43] <brion-office>	dunno :P
[14:35:23] <ThomasV_>	TimStarling: there might be conflicts at the level of accessing the sound device
[14:35:59] <TimStarling>	I assume that would mean sound would not work on one of them
[14:36:11] <ThomasV_>	is that the case?
[14:36:15] <TimStarling>	or at worst, the second applet to attempt to start would throw an exception and exit
[14:36:20] <TimStarling>	no, it's not the case
[14:36:37] <TimStarling>	I create and autostart the first applet, works fine
[14:36:56] <ThomasV_>	I once asked a question on applets in #java, and they told me that applets suck
[14:37:01] <TimStarling>	I start the second applet, the first applet logs a state change and stops
[14:37:24] <TimStarling>	then the second applet shows the second video, and the first applet's seek bar tracks along in sync with the second video
[14:37:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Single login on all wikimedia projects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[14:37:52] <TimStarling>	then if I destroy the first applet, some java thread goes into a tight loop of NullPointerExceptions
[14:38:04] <TimStarling>	or sometimes just crashes the browser
[14:39:33] <brion-office>	eww
[14:40:11] <brion-office>	maybe cortado's using class state or something equally unwise
[14:40:44] <brion-office>	i think they do like to run multiple instances from the same vm
[14:41:23] <TimStarling>	right
[14:44:27] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Correcting bugs on French Translation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10942 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bertrand.grondin)
[14:45:41] <brion-office>	TimStarling: does File::getLength() work in integer or float seconds?
[14:45:46] <TimStarling>	float
[14:45:52] <brion-office>	k
[14:46:31] <TimStarling>	it'll be a long and ugly float, $wgLang->formatTimePeriod() will round it off and make it look nice for you
[14:46:38] <brion-office>	yay
[14:49:23] <brion-office>	and we've already applied the oldimage schema chagnes, right?
[14:49:50] <TimStarling>	yes
[14:50:02] <brion-office>	whee
[14:50:34] <brion-office>	we still have to do a master switch and apply the index, sha1, and ar_page_id updates on teh current masters
[14:50:44] <brion-office>	i think that's about it
[14:50:49] <brion-office>	unless we do the log_id some day :P
[14:52:03] <TimStarling>	you know, it's probably possible to do log_id a slave at a time
[14:52:42] <brion-office>	stop slave, change field, start slave?
[14:52:45] <brion-office>	probably
[14:52:55] <TimStarling>	my testing indicated that the result of the alter table query was stable
[14:53:16] <TimStarling>	Domas says there's no reason it has to be, but maybe it just is because all the servers are based on the same data directory
[14:53:29] <TimStarling>	and have been exposed to the same sequence of transactions
[14:53:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) French localisation update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10942   +need-review +patch; summary (10robchur)
[14:53:42] <brion-office>	:P
[14:53:58] <TimStarling>	so maybe we should just do the alter table and then test it
[14:57:04] <Sadik>	hello, is there any option to list Special:Allpages excluding REDIRECT page?
[14:58:09] <TimStarling>	the cortado bug tracker takes about 20 seconds per request, it's a bit frustrating
[14:58:14] <robchurch>	I don't think there is at this time.
[14:58:22] <TimStarling>	still trying to see if there's an existing report
[14:58:22] <robchurch>	I imagine it would be feasible to add one.
[14:58:52] <robchurch>	You can use a bit of CSS to discolour or fade out or otherwise style redirect links there, though.
[15:12:03] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Optionally use HTML listboxes instead of auto-completion - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10943 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[15:12:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Style auto-completion fields - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10875  (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[15:13:36] <TimStarling>	brion: does this fit the definition of "class state or equally unwise"? http://p.defau.lt/?hHHtSTDcPksaszRulvv2JQ
[15:15:01] <brion-office>	...
[15:15:08] <brion-office>	that's... weird
[15:15:22] <brion-office>	and by weird i mean horrifying
[15:15:36] <TimStarling>	the "cortado" instance isn't used very often, but the pipeline is used all the time
[15:19:01] <RichiH>	i just upgraded from 1.7 to 1.9.3 and i am seeing a vanilla wiki instead of the content i kind of want to see
[15:19:06] <RichiH>	suggestions?
[15:20:13] <brion-office>	if we're lucky it's not hard to rewire it to use a per-instance... instance
[15:20:37] <brion-office>	RichiH: #1 suspicion would be that you didn't use the same database settings when you ran the installer
[15:20:43] <brion-office>	for instance, different database name or different table prefix
[15:20:54] <brion-office>	then it would have made a new fresh wiki instead of using your existing one
[15:22:29] <RichiH>	brion-office: during installation, it said it detected existing db structures, but let me double check
[15:23:02] <grew>	where can i find documentation on the wiki syntax?
[15:23:57] <RichiH>	brion-office: i have one set with and one without mw_ as prefix -- how do i find out which is the correct one?
[15:24:54] <TimStarling>	I'm talking to the cortado people now in #fluendo
[15:25:20] <brion-office>	RichiH: simple answer is do select count(*) from page where page_namespace != 8; in both :)
[15:25:27] <brion-office>	if it's big in one and not the other, you'lll know :D
[15:25:42] <RichiH>	brion-office: k
[15:26:01] <brion-office>	grew: probably something on www.mediawiki.org .... or the wikipedia help pages :)
[15:26:05] <brion-office>	we're not super organized wrt docs :P
[15:26:18] <RichiH>	brion-office: one has one, one has 5
[15:26:31] <RichiH>	and yes, the existing wiki is small, it is my personal scratchpad
[15:27:06] <brion-office>	heh
[15:27:08] <RichiH>	brion-office: does deleting /var/lib/mediawiki1.9/LocalSettings.php and redoing it with correct prefix sound like a good way to fix it?
[15:27:10] <brion-office>	well five is probably it then ;)
[15:27:16] <brion-office>	sure
[15:27:21] <RichiH>	purrfect
[15:27:26] <brion-office>	or mebbe even just chagne the prefix in the file
[15:28:15] <grew>	brion-office: i can find nothing in the help pages for mediawiki about this
[15:28:20] <grew>	hence me cming here to ask
[15:28:51] <RichiH>	brion-office: redoing is fast and cleaner
[15:28:55] <robchurch>	wagh
[15:29:03] <robchurch>	Special:Version just turned into a metric ton of E_STRICT warnings :(
[15:29:19] <RichiH>	brion-office: i used to use experimental utf-8 - does binary have any (dis)advantages?
[15:29:44] <brion-office>	binary works for non-BMP unicode characters
[15:29:45] <brion-office>	but
[15:29:48] <brion-office>	just stick with the utf-8
[15:29:57] <brion-office>	i don't think it'll update correctly if you change it in the installer atm :)
[15:30:18] <brion-office>	robchurch: E_STRICT is for girly men
[15:32:32] <CIA-1>	03robchurch * r24823 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialVersion.php: Language::lc() is non-static
[15:33:42] <RichiH>	brion-office: thanks a bunch
[15:33:43] <RichiH>	works
[15:33:55] <brion-office>	yay
[15:34:07] <CIA-1>	03raymond * r24824 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: * (bug 10942) Update French. Patch by Bertrand GRONDIN.
[15:35:09] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) French localisation update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10942  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[15:35:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Disable anonymous access to create anypage in Wikimania 2007 Official Site - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10940  (10alexsh)
[15:37:40] <CIA-1>	03robchurch * r24825 10/trunk/phase3/includes/RecentChange.php: Mark static methods as such
[15:41:34] <wally>	hi! I've setup mediawiki on my debian server, when I open it goes to <url>/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[15:42:02] <wally>	is there a way for me to set something so it goes to <url>wiki/Main_Page
[15:42:05] <wally>	instead
[15:43:44] <MrHappy>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL
[15:43:49] <MrHappy>	like that?
[15:43:53] <wally>	yeah
[15:44:13] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) namespace creation request for fr.wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10813  +comment (10thomasV1)
[15:44:28] <wally>	thanks MrHappy 
[15:44:30] <vlad>	Hi! Is there way to send notifications more than once?
[15:44:42] <vlad>	(from the watchlist?)
[15:45:02] <vlad>	Would it be accepted if send such patch?
[15:47:57] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Pages not available after namespace change on ht.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10944 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (le.korrigan)
[15:49:49] <CIA-1>	03robchurch * r24826 10/trunk/extensions/RandomImage/ (README RandomImage.class.php RandomImage.php): 
[15:49:49] <CIA-1>	* Major refactor; move class into own file, update for PHP 5 etc.
[15:49:49] <CIA-1>	* Introduce option to confine selection to a user-supplied, pipe-delimited list
[15:51:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Run maintenance/namespaceDupes.php on Haitian Creole Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10944   +shell; summary (10robchur)
[15:51:13] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Run maintenance/namespaceDupes.php on Haitian Creole Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10944  +comment (10brion)
[16:04:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Run maintenance/namespaceDupes.php on Haitian Creole Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10944  (10le.korrigan)
[16:10:01] <robchurch>	hmm
[16:10:10] <robchurch>	<b>Warning</b>:  Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in <b>F:\Apache\htdocs\mediawiki\extensions\OggHandler\OggHandler_body.php</b> on line <b>55</b>
[16:13:51] <robchurch>	ah
[16:16:49] <robchurch>				return require( 'File/Ogg.php' );
[16:16:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install "Quiz" extension on en.wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10889  (10brian.mcneil)
[16:19:46] <robchurch>	wheee
[16:19:47] <robchurch>	it works
[16:22:46] <robchurch>	Well, I still get the error on upload, but the player shows up after a hard-refresh of the image page.
[16:24:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Set $wgUploadNavigationUrl for French Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10945 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (le.korrigan)
[16:25:11] <Raymond_>	robchurch: do you use Windows or linux? I am looking for the ffmpeg lib for windows xp
[16:25:26] <robchurch>	One moment.
[16:25:32] <robchurch>	http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/ffmpeg/
[16:25:52] <robchurch>	That's what I'm using. No doubt it's full of evil spyware too.
[16:27:04] <Raymond_>	thanks
[16:27:20] <therealnanotube>	hey all.. anyone know of a way to do an external redirect from a wiki page? ie, redirect to a site outside of the wiki? i'm willing to hack source, if necessary, but i'd need some help.
[16:28:50] <therealnanotube>	hey Raymond_, got some time/willingness to help me out today? :)
[16:30:30] <robchurch>	Yeah, still got an odd little bug on upload, can't work it out.
[16:31:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgUploadNavigationUrl for French Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10945   +shell (10robchur)
[16:31:57] <Raymond_>	therealnanotube: sorry, no time at the moment for such a hack
[16:33:10] <therealnanotube>	Raymond_: heh ok, well, thanks anyway. :) maybe someone else will pick up the challenge. :)
[16:34:20] <wally>	under http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Root_access, section 2 there's a suggestion to put "AddModule mod_rewrite.c" in httpd.conf, when I do apache2 restart it fails with an error message "invalid comand 'AddModule', perhaps misspelled..."
[16:34:50] <wally>	does anybody know how to sort this Short_URL deal on apache out? (:
[16:35:24] <wally>	also I'm unable to find mod_rewrite.c on my system
[16:41:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow on-wiki editing of SVG images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5899  +comment (10cyril.buttay)
[16:56:22] <speaker219>	Does anybody know if its possible to set up a page on a MediaWiki that would redirect to an External site, not just another page on the wiki?
[16:56:40] <therealnanotube>	speaker219: haha, i already asked here. thanks for trying again, though. :)
[16:56:49] <speaker219>	haha
[16:56:50] <speaker219>	 okay
[16:56:57] <speaker219>	try googling it i guess
[16:57:13] <therealnanotube>	speaker219: that was my first step before even trying irc. :)
[16:57:24] <speaker219>	mediawiki forums?
[16:57:27] <therealnanotube>	speaker219: but maybe i was just not going about it correctly... 
[16:57:56] <speaker219>	guess it's not a very talkative bunch here, huh?
[16:58:23] <therealnanotube>	speaker219: hehe yep. :)
[16:58:30] <therealnanotube>	the forums are a good idea, though, i'll give those a shot.
[16:59:43] <JoKo>	Hi, I'm running the version 1.8.4 of Mediawiki. Is it worth to upgrade it to the latest release?
[17:08:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) French localisation update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10946 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bertrand.grondin)
[17:31:01] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Sidebar display issue in Firefox - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10941  +comment (10brion)
[17:38:57] <CIA-1>	03wegge * r24827 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDa.php: Correct grammer for da
[17:42:16] *brion-office 	glees at rsync still transferring data
[17:42:20] <brion-office>	rsync 3 wooooooooo
[17:45:48] <CIA-1>	03wegge * r24828 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDa.php: New translations for da
[17:52:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) off by a trailing slash - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10947 trivial; lowest; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (jidanni)
[17:54:40] <CIA-1>	03aaron * r24829 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Use subtitles to make this consistent with delete/protect and the like
[17:58:59] <VoiceOfAll>	brion-office: https://wikitech.leuksman.com/view/Schema_updates#patch-oi_metadata.sql.2C_patch-archive-user-index.sql.2C_patch-cu_changes_indexes.sql
[17:59:08] *VoiceOfAll 	wonders what's with 5 and 7
[18:01:36] <therealnanotube>	anyone know of a way to do an external redirect from a wiki page? ie, redirect to a site outside of the wiki? i'm willing to hack source, if necessary, but i'd need some help.
[18:02:08] <VoiceOfAll>	that could be a security issue
[18:02:40] <brion-office>	VoiceOfAll: what's with 5 and 7 what?
[18:02:59] <VoiceOfAll>	how come they don't need the query?
[18:03:13] <brion-office>	probably they were down at the time and got recloned from other boxen
[18:04:27] <Jack_Phoenix>	Skizzerz: rar
[18:04:29] <Skizzerz>	rar
[18:05:21] *Skizzerz 	was wondering if it's possible to prevent people from creating new accounts that have certain characters/strings in them
[18:05:54] <VoiceOfAll>	brion-office: did tim convince you to run log_id_merged? :D
[18:06:06] <Jack_Phoenix>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UsernameBlacklist, Skizzerz? :)
[18:06:12] <Skizzerz>	>.<
[18:06:43] <Skizzerz>	and here I spent half an hour looking through bugzilla and finding nothing... *sigh*
[18:06:55] <Jack_Phoenix>	:]
[18:07:11] <Skizzerz>	um... it's not there
[18:07:28] <Jack_Phoenix>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Username_Blacklist
[18:07:35] <Skizzerz>	nvm, found it
[18:07:41] <brion-office>	VoiceOfAll: there's a possible plan, but i'm in no rush to do it myself since we don't need it atm
[18:14:01] <xlslx>	how can i make mediawiki 1.10 multilanguage?
[18:15:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow on-wiki editing of SVG images - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5899  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[18:25:52] <VoiceOfAll>	brion-office: http://forums.ea.com/mboards/category.jspa?sls=2&categoryID=34&lkey=RrhAISDRiw_qFWfdCmaMrQAAKDw.
[18:26:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) feature request: control of meta name="KEYWORDS" content="..." - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846  (10wmbugzilla)
[18:27:23] <brion-office>	VoiceOfAll: ?
[18:27:52] <VoiceOfAll>	Gives me chuckle
[18:28:58] <brion-office>	the existence of forums for games?
[18:29:02] *brion-office 	shrugs
[18:29:21] <VoiceOfAll>	that gives me a huge long java error
[18:29:36] <brion-office>	good for you, i guess
[18:35:36] <therealnanotube>	anyone know of a way to do an external redirect from a wiki page? ie, redirect to a site outside of the wiki? i'm willing to hack source, if necessary, but i'd need some help.
[18:37:56] <brion-office>	interwiki redirects, if enabled and iw_local set in the interwiki table entry fo rthat prefix
[18:43:16] <brion-office>	<b>Warning</b>:  Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in <b>/opt/web/pages/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggHandler_body.php</b> on line <b>55</b><br />
[18:43:22] <therealnanotube>	brion-office: not interwiki, but a regular  external site: ie, i want a page from my wiki to redirect to say, sourceforge.net
[18:48:23] <brion-office>	heh think i found it
[18:48:26] <brion-office>			if ( !class_exists( 'File_Ogg' ) ) {
[18:48:26] <brion-office>				return require( 'File/Ogg.php' );
[18:48:26] <brion-office>			}	
[18:49:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) creating internatiionalization page for BlockTitles extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10948 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bertrand.grondin)
[18:51:02] <CIA-1>	03brion * r24830 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggHandler_body.php: 
[18:51:02] <CIA-1>	Fix failure of first Ogg file metadata fetch during script run -- getMetadata()
[18:51:02] <CIA-1>	incorrectly returned the return value of require('File/Ogg.php') instead of
[18:51:02] <CIA-1>	continuing on to fetch the metadata. This would cause getImageSize() to fail the
[18:51:02] <CIA-1>	first time it was run, spewing PHP warnings after uploading a new Ogg file.
[18:51:03] <brion-office>	therealnanotube: well i guess you'd have to hack that :)
[18:51:18] <rossifer>	hey all
[18:51:18] <brion-office>	i have to say i'd consider it unwise, though, since abuse could be both very disruptive and rather spammy
[18:51:46] <therealnanotube>	brion-office: yea, i know i'd have to hack it - i'm willing to do so, but wanted to get some help from someone who knows something about mediawiki code. :)
[18:51:49] <rossifer>	I'm having problems with a fresh mediawiki installation and some links seems to be a bit funny
[18:52:38] <rossifer>	some say www.mywiki.com and others will be formatted as http://mywiki.com, it misses out the www.
[18:52:42] <rossifer>	any idea why?
[18:53:11] <rossifer>	seems to be when trying to save a page edit and also create a new page
[18:53:18] <rossifer>	everything else is fine...
[18:53:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) creating internatiionalization page for BlockTitles extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10948  (10bertrand.grondin)
[18:54:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) creating internatiionalization page for BlockTitles extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10948   +need-review (10raimond.spekking)
[18:56:39] <rossifer>	any ideas people?
[18:57:54] <dcrochet>	[Question] Hello, I want to contact the LaTeX dev. Where can I contact them ?
[18:58:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) creating internationalization page for BlockTitles extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10948  summary (10bertrand.grondin)
[18:59:50] <rossifer>	any chat here?
[19:00:21] <Raymond_>	rossifer: be patient :)
[19:00:36] <rossifer>	oh ok its just no one said anything. I shall wait
[19:00:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) French localisation update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10946  -need-review  (10bertrand.grondin)
[19:00:47] <tro>	rossifer: if you don't have time to wait for someone to see it here, mail the lists
[19:01:12] <rossifer>	I have time just was expecting a response such as I'm getting now...
[19:01:16] <tro>	:)
[19:01:17] <rossifer>	sorry to offend
[19:01:28] <tro>	no offense taken. we just don't know :)
[19:04:48] <CIA-1>	03raymond * r24831 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFr.php: * (bug 10946) Update French. Patch by Bertrand GRONDIN.
[19:05:21] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) French localisation update - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10946  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[19:05:22] <diploid>	hi all, anyone here involved in MediaWiki Bulletin Board? I've set includable to true for the topic special page and am attempting to embed it in a mw article but its appending some criptic text to all my <p>s
[19:11:45] <robchurch>	brion-office: I pointed that (metadata) thing out earlier.
[19:14:43] <brion-office>	robchurch: maybe but you didn't fix it ;)
[19:14:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Ogg handler incorrectly detects enabled Java for Firefox without Java plugin - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10949 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (brion)
[19:14:48] <robchurch>	No, I didn't.
[19:15:53] <CIA-1>	03robchurch * r24832 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Reverting r24829; using subtitles leads to an unclear UI, and is a practice that ought to be deprecated
[19:19:22] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) off by a trailing slash - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10947  +comment (10robchur)
[19:23:15] <robchurch>	The OggHandler extension is quite nice, to be honest.
[19:29:50] <CIA-1>	03raymond * r24833 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Updating language maintenance scripts
[19:33:18] <CIA-1>	03robchurch * r24834 10/trunk/extensions/BlockTitles/ (BlockTitles.i18n.php BlockTitles.php): 
[19:33:18] <CIA-1>	(bug 10948)
[19:33:18] <CIA-1>	* Introduce standard messages file
[19:33:18] <CIA-1>	* French localisation c/o Bertrand GRONDIN
[19:33:45] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) creating internationalization page for BlockTitles extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10948  +comment (10robchur)
[19:34:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Distinguish overwritten files in upload log - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10937  summary (10robchur)
[19:35:05] <robchurch>	Another candidate for a unified regular expression blacklist class.
[19:35:09] <CIA-1>	03robchurch * r24835 10/trunk/extensions/BlockTitles/BlockTitles.php: Trim some whitespace
[19:38:42] <robchurch>	Then again, I think I'd prefer it if it was something in core, or a better extension, saving into a table; logs, special page, etc.
[19:40:17] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Ogg handler player doesn' t leave vertical room for controls - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10950 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (brion)
[19:45:18] <brion-office>	video plugin killed my x server
[19:45:20] <brion-office>	god i love desktop linux
[19:46:58] <robchurch>	\o/
[19:47:55] <mdale>	which video plugin? 
[19:50:51] <greudin>	Râââh Lovely
[19:52:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Tidy sometimes goes ballistic when a block-level element is wrapped in an inline element - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9737  (10nospam)
[19:52:41] <CIA-1>	03robchurch * r24836 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (bug 10937) Distinguish overwritten files in upload log; use the `upload/overwrite` action for these
[19:53:08] <keir_>	is there any way to reset a MediaWiki user's password as an admin?
[19:53:11] <keir_>	(my MW site has no access to SMTP so we cant send out password reminders)
[19:53:12] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Distinguish overwritten files in upload log - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10937  +comment (10robchur)
[19:53:21] <robchurch>	You might give maintenance/changePassword.php a whirl.
[19:53:26] <Jack_Phoenix>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Password_Reset ? ;)
[19:53:32] <robchurch>	Last time I used it, though, it didn't work.
[19:57:02] <robchurch>	Hm. Yes, still doesn't work, even with calls to the "proper" methods.
[19:57:09] <robchurch>	I guess there's some cache that isn't updating.
[19:57:18] <brion-office>	mdale: totem i think
[19:57:38] <mdale>	oh yea totem is bad ... use mplayer its very stable 
[19:58:33] <brion-office>	it's ubuntu default i guess
[19:58:52] <mdale>	yea :( 
[19:59:08] <mdale>	mplayer is much better but not "legal" 
[20:00:34] <robchurch>	Interesting, interesting...
[20:00:40] <mdale>	the oggplay plugin is maturing and there is working builds of firefox with native oggtheora ... so soon there should be much fewer issues with theora playback in default installations :) 
[20:01:04] <ktk>	hi all
[20:01:23] <brion-office>	whee
[20:02:10] <ktk>	short question: I did an extension for mediawiki, now I try to document it. the extension reacts on <ClassTree ...>, problem is every time I write the tag my extension gets launched in the output :) 
[20:02:24] <ktk>	how can I escape it?
[20:03:03] <Platonides>	<nowiki><ClassTree></nowiki>
[20:03:11] <ktk>	ah great tnx
[20:05:11] <ktk>	works
[20:06:37] <spaz>	hello
[20:06:46] <spaz>	i have a problem with protecting a page on my wiki
[20:07:00] <spaz>	i go to protect a page, and this ends up happening:
[20:07:02] <spaz>	There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please hit "back" and reload the page you came from, then try again.
[20:07:14] <spaz>	even though i'm still logged in
[20:07:31] <spaz>	and it's a habitual thing, so i dunno what's going on -_-
[20:10:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add whatlinkshere links to Special:Wantedcategories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10951 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (danny_b)
[20:13:45] <brion-office>	spaz: do you have problems editing as well?
[20:13:57] <spaz>	brion-office, hmm haven't tried that yet heh
[20:13:58] <spaz>	h/o
[20:14:25] <spaz>	i was protecting the main page from nooblets
[20:14:34] <spaz>	hmm...
[20:14:35] <spaz>	brion-office, yes
[20:14:36] <spaz>	i do
[20:15:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API returns [] as an empty return value instead of {} - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10887  +comment (10yuriastrakhan)
[20:15:06] <brion-office>	does this always happen, has it happened for a while? or just now for the first time?
[20:15:54] <_Danny_B_>	hello, brion
[20:17:34] <spaz>	brion-office, it's always happened so far
[20:17:56] <brion-office>	spaz: probably your PHP session storage is broken
[20:18:00] <brion-office>	is this a windows server? shared hosting?
[20:18:07] <spaz>	i host on my own servesr
[20:18:09] <spaz>	*server
[20:18:28] <spaz>	and windows...
[20:18:29] <spaz>	eww
[20:18:34] <spaz>	i use linux
[20:19:48] <brion-office>	well, confirm that php session save path is correct, writable, and not forbidden by something like php safe mode, basedir restriction, or SELinux
[20:20:46] <emrezer>	hi does anyone knows how to hide a page?
[20:21:04] <emrezer>	for example special:version
[20:28:02] <spaz>	netsplit!
[20:33:28] <spaz>	brb, reboot
[20:33:49] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Add whatlinkshere links to Special:Wantedcategories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10951  +comment (10robchur)
[20:36:20] <markusk21>	Hi all, can someone please help me redirecting correctly to my mediawiki?
[20:37:09] <markusk21>	The mediawiki is located in /www/htdocs/mediawiki and it can be found at kreth.mine.nu/mediawiki
[20:38:41] <markusk21>	I reserved a adress www.trampolinwiki.de.vu which is redirecting to kreth.mine.nu/mediawiki. This works, but the adress is changed back to kreth.mine.nu/mediawiki
[20:39:23] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: so if i put the link to the category page like [[:category:foo]] it won't appear on that list just because thereis no category member?
[20:39:53] <robchurch>	Special:Wantedcategories is a list of categories without description pages.
[20:40:04] <robchurch>	[[:Category:Foo]] does not place a page in a category.
[20:40:14] <markusk21>	So I added $wgServer and $wgServerName in LocalSettings.php but then the page doesn't work anymore....
[20:41:29] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: i know. but couple times the list was containing categories even though they had no memberf,but link to. and after the link was removed, the item on list disappeared
[20:41:45] <robchurch>	That sounds like a coincidence.
[20:41:59] <_Danny_B_>	ok then
[20:42:04] <robchurch>	It might also be due to pending link updates which would have been done immediately upon page save.
[20:42:20] <markusk21>	With wgScriptpath ="mediawiki" it searches in /mediawiki/mediawiki and with wgScriptPath ="" the page is unformated as you can see currently.
[20:42:38] <markusk21>	Can anyone offer some help?
[20:43:02] <robchurch>	Nevertheless, that would be a bug, and I don't see why you would ask for completely incorrect page semantics to work around it.
[20:43:23] <spaz>	:-s
[20:43:25] <spaz>	hmm
[20:43:27] <spaz>	it's not selinux
[20:43:31] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: do you think special:wantedpages could have namespace selector then?
[20:43:59] <robchurch>	There's a Special:Wantedpages with a namespace selector in the unfinished report branch I worked on last month.
[20:44:11] <robchurch>	I'm waiting for brion to tell me whether or not I'm on crack or not before I complete it.
[20:44:52] <_Danny_B_>	ok, good job, thx
[20:45:45] <markusk21>	Anyone?
[20:47:06] <CIA-1>	03robchurch * r24837 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ParserOutput.php: Coerce mOutputHooks to an array; makes things backwards-compatible with old cached ParserOutput objects
[20:47:21] <robchurch>	Without knowing what you set $wgServer/ServerName to, it's difficult to suggest a solution.
[20:48:26] <markusk21>	$wgServer		= "http://www.trampolinwiki.de.vu";
[20:48:26] <markusk21>	$wgServerName		= "www.trampolinwiki.de.vu";
[20:48:29] <brion-office>	robchurch: sorry, my todo list is a fucking mile long
[20:48:36] <robchurch>	No problem.
[20:48:38] <brion-office>	stuff keeps accumulating ;)
[20:48:55] <robchurch>	I might finish it off this week, then decide I hate it and rewrite it again.
[20:49:02] <robchurch>	I've done that twice with the log formatting thing now. :)
[20:49:05] <markusk21>	So it points directly into the subdirectory.
[20:50:15] <markusk21>	With $wgScriptPath       = "/mediawiki"; I get the error: The requested URL /mediawiki/mediawiki/index.php/Hauptseite was not found on this server.
[20:50:37] <the_unluckiest>	using "html tidy" why mediawiki  gives me "proc_open(/dev/nul)" warning? (the tabs are displaced too)
[20:50:38] <spaz>	O_O
[20:50:39] <spaz>	wtf
[20:50:44] <spaz>	"A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
[20:50:44] <spaz>	    (SQL query hidden)
[20:50:44] <spaz>	from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'wiki.mw_cu_changes' doesn't exist (localhost)"."
[20:50:47] <spaz>	oops
[20:50:55] <spaz>	didn't realize it was that long lol
[20:51:01] <spaz>	:-s
[20:51:21] <spaz>	i get that when i edit a page and try to submit
[20:51:22] <spaz>	>_<
[20:51:24] <the_unluckiest>	and other problem :Just absolute path is accepted in localsettings.php file
[20:51:27] <the_unluckiest>	:(
[20:52:08] <robchurch>	spaz: You have the CheckUser installed and it's been updated to a recent version without the appropriate scripts having been run.
[20:52:19] <spaz>	robchurch, oooh i see
[20:52:29] <the_unluckiest>	using "tidy HTML" why mediawiki  gives me "proc_open(/dev/nul)" warning? (the tabs are displaced too) and other problem :Just absolute path is accepted in localsettings.php file
[20:52:40] <robchurch>	CheckUser stores a lot more information these days, has its own table.
[20:52:49] <spaz>	i knew i was forgetting something lol
[20:53:39] <the_unluckiest>	I've taken care at Manual talk:$wgUseTidy as well
[20:56:33] <markusk21>	I summerize: with  $wgServer		= "http://www.trampolinwiki.de.vu"; and $wgScriptPath       = ""; the index.php is found but formats and Pictures are not, as you can see currently, why?
[20:57:26] <spaz>	sweet, thanks robchurch :-D
[20:57:31] <spaz>	everything works great now
[20:57:49] <spaz>	also, thanks brion-office ^_^
[20:58:13] <markusk21>	Ahh, and the Links are still pointing to kreth.mine.nu instead trampolinwiki.de.vu....
[20:59:17] <markusk21>	Why is wgServer not used there?
[21:00:55] <spaz>	crap.
[21:00:56] <spaz>	>_<
[21:01:00] <brion-office>	links almost all use relative paths, markusk21
[21:01:06] <spaz>	one last flaw.... >_<
[21:01:25] <spaz>	http://example.com/wiki/main_page works, but not http://example.com/wiki
[21:01:45] <the_unluckiest>	brion-office : on my mediawiki links do not understand relative paths
[21:01:52] <spaz>	i'm using mod_rewrite in my apache2.conf file
[21:02:10] <markusk21>	What does mod_rewrite?
[21:02:23] <spaz>	i used the rewrite rules shown in [[Manual:Short URL's]]
[21:02:32] <spaz>	err
[21:02:40] <spaz>	[[Manual:Short URL]]
[21:04:01] <markusk21>	The paths should be relative to wgServer, shouldn't they? I'll read Short Url.....
[21:04:29] <spaz>	they are i believe
[21:05:41] <robchurch>	"Your drafts for this page have been deleted."
[21:05:44] *robchurch 	cackles
[21:05:53] <rom1v>	hi
[21:06:17] <rom1v>	as adminitrator, how is it possible to be notified by email of ALL MODIFICATIONS of ALL PAGES of the wiki?
[21:07:18] <the_unluckiest>	rom1v: if you watch all you can change configuration file to get notified
[21:07:29] <the_unluckiest>	for watching all you can use a bot
[21:08:02] <rom1v>	arf, so there is no "checkbox" to do this?
[21:08:14] <rom1v>	how do wikipedia administrators do?
[21:08:28] <rom1v>	for checking (if they do)
[21:08:49] <the_unluckiest>	if you want to watch a page easily go to page and click watch
[21:09:02] <the_unluckiest>	but a bot can do it as well. 
[21:09:03] *spaz 	gags
[21:09:46] <rom1v>	ok, is there an option "autowatch" for enable "watch" on all new pages I create?
[21:10:04] <robchurch>	There is, actually; have a look in preferences.
[21:11:09] <rom1v>	ok thx
[21:11:11] <rom1v>	I found
[21:11:58] <the_unluckiest>	and for configuatation of e-mail set $wgEnotifWatchlist to true
[21:12:53] <rom1v>	if I don't do that, what's the difference between watching and no watching?
[21:13:16] <the_unluckiest>	nothing
[21:13:37] <rom1v>	ok
[21:13:55] <rom1v>	and as a user, once the $wg...uploads is enabled, how to send an image?
[21:14:26] <the_unluckiest>	send an image to where? 
[21:14:42] <the_unluckiest>	do you want to get notified of uploading an image?
[21:15:13] <rom1v>	For example in a wiki page, I want to add an image
[21:15:18] <rom1v>	to show a screenshot
[21:15:21] <rom1v>	or anything else
[21:15:40] <robchurch>	Your draft dated 21:08, 15 August 2007 has been deleted.
[21:15:45] <robchurch>	:)
[21:15:55] *robchurch 	considers little icons
[21:15:56] <rom1v>	there is : [[Image:Exemple.jpg]]
[21:16:07] <rom1v>	but how to put Exemple.jpg on the server (as a simple user)
[21:16:08] <rom1v>	?
[21:16:11] <emrezer>	does anyone knows how to hide a page or how to use blacklise extension??
[21:16:15] <robchurch>	Special:Upload
[21:16:17] <the_unluckiest>	aha
[21:16:36] <rom1v>	?
[21:16:42] <_Danny_B_>	is it possible to set default thumbnail size other than current (i think) 180 px?
[21:16:43] <the_unluckiest>	that's what robchurch told
[21:16:51] <rom1v>	I didn't understand
[21:16:52] <the_unluckiest>	Special:Upload
[21:17:01] <robchurch>	_Danny_B_: For you, or for all users?
[21:17:07] <rom1v>	Where I have to write that?
[21:17:07] <robchurch>	It's a preference, so it's doable for both.
[21:17:08] <_Danny_B_>	all users
[21:17:09] <the_unluckiest>	go to Special:Upload
[21:17:20] <rom1v>	where?
[21:17:29] <markusk21>	No luck yet. thanks for help.
[21:17:38] <the_unluckiest>	in search box for sure
[21:17:42] <robchurch>	IIRC, the actual values that are valid preferences are confined to a set in includes/DefaultSettings.php, but of course, you can casually override that too. :)
[21:18:29] <rom1v>	ah it's ok
[21:18:30] <rom1v>	thank
[21:18:31] <rom1v>	s
[21:18:31] <rom1v>	:)
[21:18:36] <the_unluckiest>	but you should have set $wgEnableUploads=true
[21:18:42] <the_unluckiest>	You're welcome
[21:18:44] <rom1v>	yes it is true
[21:18:50] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: so if we wanted to set bigger one on our wiki, we need somebody with shell access, right? isn't possible to make it as message?
[21:19:44] <rom1v>	good night
[21:20:22] <the_unluckiest>	you're welcome
[21:21:23] <the_unluckiest>	Why my mediawiki gives me Warning:proc_open(/dev/null) [function.proc-open]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in E:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Apache2.2\htdocs\lighttst\includes\Parser.php on line 730
[21:21:45] <the_unluckiest>	It happens after using tidy
[21:22:03] <the_unluckiest>	and the tabs are displaced too
[21:23:24] <robchurch>	Why would you set that as a message?
[21:23:32] <robchurch>	Sounds like an abuse of the message cache to me.
[21:24:08] <the_unluckiest>	robchurch. do you mean me?
[21:24:13] <robchurch>	no
[21:24:41] <the_unluckiest>	ok
[21:24:44] <robchurch>	Apparently, MediaWiki is trying to open /dev/null, for what purpose I couldn't say offhand, and it doesn't like it.
[21:24:55] <robchurch>	Presumably this is because /dev/null is an invalid path under Windows.
[21:25:00] <robchurch>	I suspect this may be a known bug.
[21:25:46] <the_unluckiest>	but why tabs are displaced
[21:26:09] <the_unluckiest>	I used correct tidy.conf
[21:26:09] <robchurch>	Because the error screws up the rendering, and all the pretty CSS doesn't quite work after that.
[21:27:12] <robchurch>	It's nothing to do with tidy.conf, it's a bug in MediaWiki.
[21:27:54] <the_unluckiest>	So I'll wait for its patch:)
[21:28:01] <robchurch>	Yes, bug 8737. Let me see...
[21:28:29] <the_unluckiest>	maybe I shouldn't use many templates are used in wikipedia
[21:30:13] <emrezer>	can anyone offer me an extension to prevent acces to a page
[21:30:15] <emrezer>	?
[21:30:24] <emrezer>	access
[21:30:37] <the_unluckiest>	disallow category may work
[21:30:52] <emrezer>	another?
[21:30:54] <the_unluckiest>	but I haven't tested it yet
[21:31:13] <the_unluckiest>	there is one does it with namespaces
[21:31:22] <the_unluckiest>	I can't remember it now
[21:31:43] <emrezer>	and I want to hide a page. I am searching it for more than a month but I couldnt find anythinf 
[21:31:45] <emrezer>	anyhting
[21:31:49] <the_unluckiest>	totally mediawiki isn't a good cms for that reason
[21:31:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Form breaks when existing page has fields with }} in a field value - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10952 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[21:32:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Form breaks when existing page has fields with }} in a field value - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10952  15enhancement->normal (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[21:32:29] <the_unluckiest>	maybe MoinMoin be more useful for you
[21:32:58] <emrezer>	I couldnt find disallow category?
[21:33:02] <_Danny_B_>	robchurch: i was just asking, exactly to get more info about it...
[21:33:03] <the_unluckiest>	See en:Corporate wiki
[21:33:13] <emrezer>	oke
[21:33:15] <the_unluckiest>	let me look it up for you
[21:33:58] <the_unluckiest>	I have its file. its name is DisallowAccessOnCategory.php.tar.gz
[21:37:05] <the_unluckiest>	Btw, Is it allowed not to use Powered by mediawiki at the end of webpage?
[21:37:52] <robchurch>	Well, it's mildly discourteous, but provided you keep the copyright notice on Special:Version intact, I don't think it violates the licence.
[21:38:40] <SykoSilver>	Anyone know how to list a category and it's contents in a little box, like on Wikipedia?
[21:38:52] <the_unluckiest>	Thanks robchurch. Have good time.
[21:38:59] <sheldonrampton>	I've gotten a request to enhance the category listings on our Mediawiki site (SourceWatch.og), and I'm hoping that one of you geniuses can give me advice. I'm kind of stumped.
[21:39:20] <robchurch>	SykoSilver: You mean the CategoryTree extension?
[21:39:31] <SykoSilver>	I have no ida.
[21:39:52] <robchurch>	That's what produces the little [+] links and expands categories at the top of category pages.
[21:40:12] <robchurch>	Otherwise, I don't know what you're talking about, and you'll need to show us. :)
[21:41:08] <SykoSilver>	robchurch: at the bottom of this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Diamond_and_Pearl
[21:41:39] <SykoSilver>	Though I would like to list a category on the main page as well, without the main page being in the category...
[21:41:49] <robchurch>	The thing that starts with Categories: All articles with...
[21:42:00] <robchurch>	or the box with Pokemon video games in?
[21:42:19] <SykoSilver>	the box with Pokemon video games 
[21:42:41] <robchurch>	That's a template.
[21:43:00] <sheldonrampton>	We have a "tobacco documents biographies" category on our site. We have about 10,000 articles that belong to this category (which means that they are mentioned somewhere in tobacco industry documents). The problem is that it's difficult for people to browse through a listing of 10,000 articles when each page only shows 200 articles at a time. People who are using our site want us to provide an an easier way to do it, such 
[21:45:11] <CIA-1>	03robchurch * r24838 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (bug 8737) Fix warnings caused by incorrect use of `/dev/null` when piping process error output under Windows
[21:45:24] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Warnings on Windows with Tidy enabled from reference to /dev/ null - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8737  +comment (10robchur)
[21:45:45] <robchurch>	the_unluckiest: There, that should be in the 1.11.0 release, unless I've taken too many happy pills again, and it has to be reverted.
[21:50:46] <SykoSilver>	robochurch: o is there a way to have a box on the front page, showing a category and links to each of it's pages?
[21:51:57] <robchurch>	I imagine there is, via an extension or similar.
[22:04:29] <CIA-1>	03raymond * r24839 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[22:04:29] <CIA-1>	* Updating language maintenance scripts
[22:04:29] <CIA-1>	* Updating German localization
[22:04:29] <CIA-1>	* Removing optional, untranslated messages from Danish
[22:08:44] <CIA-1>	03raymond * r24840 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update German
[22:10:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SVN problem with pywikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10953 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Downloads; (ssanbeg)
[22:13:15] <CIA-1>	03aaron * r24841 10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt includes/Article.php): 
[22:13:15] <CIA-1>	*Add ArticleUpdateBeforeRedirect hook, to allow for the page to redirect out differently after editing (needed for flaggedrevs)
[22:13:15] <CIA-1>	*Document ArticleUpdateBeforeRedirect hook
[22:16:46] <CIA-1>	03aaron * r24842 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: 
[22:16:46] <CIA-1>	*Use ArticleUpdateBeforeRedirect hook to jump to diff against stable on edit
[22:16:46] <CIA-1>	*Add $wgReviewChangesAfterEdit
[22:24:46] <CIA-1>	03aaron * r24843 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: *Jump to diff for people that can review only
[22:44:11] <CIA-1>	03robchurch * r24844 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Article.php): Document hooks in release notes, too, please. Also tweak some odd whitespace usage.
[22:45:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVN problem with pywikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10953  (10robchur)
[22:52:46] <SykoSilver>	How do I redirect to a category page?
[22:53:08] <CIA-1>	03aaron * r24845 10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt includes/Article.php): Tweak ArticleUpdateBeforeRedirect hook a tad
[22:53:25] <SykoSilver>	For example, I have a Story category... and I want the page "Story" to redirect to the category page
[22:53:56] <CIA-1>	03aaron * r24846 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: *Update for ArticleUpdateBeforeRedirect tweak
[22:57:38] <SykoSilver>	nevermind, I figured it out =]
[22:58:09] <jevangelo>	are there any premade templates for mediawiki?
[22:58:28] <robchurch>	No
[22:59:51] <CIA-1>	03robchurch * r24847 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: whitespace
[23:00:50] <jevangelo>	hah
[23:00:52] <jevangelo>	thanks
[23:20:41] <mutante>	uhm, which file did i have to edit to insert custom html in the <head>
[23:21:21] <mutante>	i just want to support a campaign against data retention http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/Online-Demo
[23:21:37] <mutante>	and add that code into my wiki for a while
[23:23:09] <mutante>	and it says that somebody should add instructions for mediawiki ,too
[23:27:03] <mutante>	$mHeadItems; in ParserOutput.php sounds promising
[23:32:27] <mutante>	hrm, still confused http://jimbojw.com/wiki/index.php?title=Doing_more_with_MediaWiki_parser_extensions#Executing_on_every_page_load
[23:52:45] <SykoSilver>	How do I enable file uploads?
[23:53:42] <kjdavies>	is there any forum software that integrates well with mediawiki?
[23:54:00] <kjdavies>	(I googled first, but the obvious search terms will not work well)
[23:54:24] <kjdavies>	ideally, something where you can use mediawiki markup in the articles, and they'll point into the wiki correctly
[23:58:44] <_Danny_B_>	SykoSilver: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgEnableUploads