[00:12:22] Monk33: like I mentioned earlier, look for an appropriate hook in SkinTemplate.php (or in MonoBook.php, if you don't mind it being MonoBook only). If an appropriate hook doesn't exist, add one. [00:12:57] Monk33: that way, you won't have to add anything to the articles. it'll automatically show up on every page. [00:14:00] ok i still have hope :D never worked with hooks but will sort it out [00:14:15] trial & error and you learn a lot ;) [00:19:42] ami correct here at least? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_hooks [00:29:06] do i need to use the hook 'ArticleAfterFetchContent' ? [01:00:00] what do you guys think of blocking changes of more than a certain number of characters for anons and new users [01:00:11] i.e. more than 100kb or so. [01:00:49] *chat-de-plafond looks at simon [01:00:52] erm, Simetrical [01:04:25] If someone wants to write an extension to do that, they can feel free. [01:04:31] It will certainly not be enabled on Wikimedia sites. [01:14:17] Simetrical: why not? [01:14:44] Because Wikimedia believes in allowing open editing, and that includes the ability for anons to rewrite sucky pages. [01:14:49] the purpose is to stop people being idiots and text-dumping megs and megs of stuff on a particular page. [01:15:05] remember this is talking about shortening pages by a bunch, or adding a lot to it [01:15:09] We do have a maximum page length. Something like a megabyte or maybe two. [01:15:13] Yes, rewrites can do that. [01:15:17] So can removing large copyvios. [01:15:21] rewriting would create a page with a similar length [01:15:26] Or especially lengthy vandalism. [01:15:47] Rewriting implies removing all existing content and replacing it with basically all-new content, which may be of any length. [01:15:54] longest page is 400kb [01:16:03] then why not make the max-change-length 512kb [01:18:10] 04(REOPENED) Requesting watchlist for changes to category content. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7148 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [01:18:31] Because it's a lousy heuristic that isn't going to stop a significant amount of vandalism. [01:18:41] Page size doesn't affect your ability to revert anyway. [01:19:51] whoops [01:22:11] yeah, but it might stop idiots from blocking /16s for 6 months because they added 1.5MB text tumps [01:22:15] dumps* [01:22:38] 03(mod) Requesting watchlist for changes to category content. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7148 (10cbrown1023) [01:23:30] chat-de-plafond, there are far better ways of stopping such idiots. [01:23:41] For instance, revoking their sysop rights. [01:24:24] 08:29, 15 August 2007 Can't sleep, clown will eat me (Talk | contribs) blocked "58.172.0.0/16 (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 6 months ({{anon block}} ) [01:24:28] Don't try to solve social problems with narrowly tailored technical measures. [01:24:28] *chat-de-plafond stabs. [01:24:42] *Simetrical rolls eyes [01:24:43] I don't think it's going to stop anything legit, tbh [01:24:53] I mean, 512kb removal/addition of text.. by an anon? [01:24:54] It's not going to stop much that's not legit either. [01:25:02] So no point in it either way. [01:25:14] This is a one-time occurrence, not a regular problem. [01:25:22] nine hundred and ninety nine times out of ten, it'll be a copyvio, or vandalism [01:26:01] Given that for it to happen ten times you'll probably have to wait six months on the English Wikipedia . . . [01:27:24] *chat-de-plafond shrugs [01:27:27] just a suggestion [01:27:39] I'm going to work on a prototype for the blocking changes after exams [01:27:42] (~4 weeks) [01:53:47] anyone speak spanish? [02:20:13] 03(mod) Interface links should always be configurable via their own messages ( as sidebar etc.) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10703 (10jidanni) [02:23:45] Not something I personally need help with (or know about, really), but it seems this might be a good channel to mention this help desk thread in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Changing_all_users.27_default_skin [02:33:10] I've got very short URLs and the .htaccess ampersand fix, and I seem to be unable to move pages with ampersands in the title. Anyone know a way to fix this? [03:53:22] In the PHP source code, is there a function that I can call to properly construct a Title object from the relative URL to an article? Title::newFromURL() does not appear to construct the Title object properly - it doesn't populate the mNamespace and other fields. [04:41:02] My wiki is stamping the wrong date--I don't see any documentation on this. Timestamp, yes, but not date. Mediawiki seems to think that today is August 1. Can someone give me a clue? [04:46:44] I have installed version 1.6.10 [04:47:46] What's your server time? [04:48:04] The server time is correct. [04:48:24] And when I look at the rss feed for Recent Changes, the dates are correct. [04:48:26] That about exhausts my store of ideas. [04:48:41] But, when I look at it in my browser, the date is incorrect. [04:54:30] I'll be back later... if anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them. [04:56:34] Oh wait, it was adding the stuff to localsettings.php about default time zone... never mind. [06:56:24] 03aaron * r24896 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (6 files): [06:56:24] *Make makevalidate more rubost [06:56:24] *Some log messages tweaks [06:56:24] *Give notices about autoreviewing [06:56:24] *Don't jumpt to diff for null edits [06:56:25] *Tweak some div ids [06:56:46] Please help: Vandalism on http://ml.wiktionary.org/wiki/Main_Page (Word of the day). I revert that edit but it still on Main Page [06:56:52] grr...fsking typos ;) [06:57:53] http://ml.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:Movepage&wpOldTitle=%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A7%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%A8_%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B3%E0%B5%8D%E2%80%8D&wpNewTitle=Main_Page&wpReason=revert&wpMovetalk=0 [06:59:38] ??? [07:01:48] 03aaron * r24897 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: *Check if rev is non-empty after setting flag to avoid diff [07:02:20] Sadik: bah, nevermind :D [07:02:34] http://ml.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A7%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%A8_%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B3%E0%B5%8D%E2%80%8D&action=history [07:02:38] where is the edit? [07:02:53] and why isn't the main page protected? [07:03:00] http://ml.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E2%80%8C%E2%80%8C_%E0%B4%A8%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%98%E0%B4%A3%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%9F%E0%B5%81:%E0%B4%88_%E0%B4%A6%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%86_%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E2%80%8C/August_19&action=history [07:03:24] there no active admin :( [07:04:10] fixed [07:04:50] Thank you very much [07:12:36] 03(FIXED) Add additional import sources for Dutch Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10856 +comment (10jeluf) [07:52:08] "Estimated transfer for August 2007 is 535.15789473684 megabytes" [07:53:16] I'm glad they have my bandwidth usage down to the microbyte. [07:53:33] Wouldn't want me overpaying for half a byte more than I used. [07:54:00] That'd be a shame. [08:53:12] 03aaron * r24898 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: *Don't show notice when it doesn't apply [08:55:41] brion-office [08:55:43] http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10918 [08:55:49] mind reviewing my response? :/ [08:56:12] I think you misunderstood the inquiry [09:12:28] 03(NEW) [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] do not work right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [09:27:31] 03(FIXED) descriptive text for Special:Attributes is misleading - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10746 +comment (10mak) [09:31:10] 03(FIXED) Attributes with Underscores do not show up when doing Special: SeachByAttribute - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10606 +comment (10mak) [09:41:37] VoiceOfAll you have a minute? [09:46:27] 03(mod) [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] do not work right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [09:52:26] Simetrical|away ? [09:52:46] micro byte? [09:52:51] you mean a bit? [09:55:36] 03(NEW) Watched page not in Special:Watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10986 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (mendors) [09:56:23] 03(mod) Watched page not in Special:Watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10986 (10N/A) [10:00:28] brion-office: out of pure curiosity...when will CentralAuth be ready for 3rd-party use? :) [10:02:02] Jack_Phoenix isnt every question out of pure curiosity? [10:02:12] I guess so. [10:04:33] Jack_Phoenix all the devs are busy I think [10:04:45] no action whatsoever :) [10:04:52] yeah...well, I suppose someone sees it in time ;-) [10:04:52] its just you me and wikibugs [10:05:02] time is running out :P [10:05:43] :P [10:10:43] Hi, I have a big problem. I need to create a hook but have no clue about hooks. I have 2 extensions that only get enabled by adding a code to the article. Now i cannot add the codes manually to 4500 articles. The hook should do that, so that the codes are at the end of every article page automatically. So which hook do i need to run and what would the function be? Or is there even another solution? [10:12:06] this should be added at the end of every article page and maybe category as well: http://mediawiki.pastey.net/submit.php [10:12:14] http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72422 [10:44:42] 03laner * r24899 10/trunk/extensions/LdapAuthentication/LdapAuthentication.php: * Added a new option, $wgLDAPOptions, to change connection optons [10:46:08] Hello, Who's speak french ? [11:34:48] 03(NEW) Internationalization of the extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10987 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Inputbox; (bertrand.grondin) [11:59:06] What is a good edit count cap to not rename users over? [11:59:14] 1 [11:59:46] In that case, users with over 100K edits shouldn't be renamed? [12:00:01] 100,000 is higher than 1, so yes [12:00:29] :) [12:11:04] I am creating a wiki with multiple languages,and has got really far with it, so mywiki.org/en leads to the english one and mywiki.org/no leads to the norwegian one, and so on... but how can I redirect mywiki.org/ to mywiki.org/en? [12:13:30] This is my .htaccess: http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72426 And this is a link to my wiki: henhod44.freehostia.com [12:15:37] hey Dvyjones, long time no see :) [12:16:53] um hey I wanted to know is it ok that theres no ?> at the end of LocalSettings? [12:17:05] Hi Jack! [12:17:20] php delimiter or whatever [12:17:22] wh2: it's perfectly normal and is done on purpose [12:17:34] Jack_Phoenix: I've been on vacation for a while now [12:17:37] really? [12:17:40] yes [12:17:51] see the newest RELEASE-NOTES for more info [12:18:01] thats weird [12:18:03] the ending ?> tag was removed on purpose [12:18:04] um k [12:18:09] so that people won't mess up things [12:18:14] lol [12:18:17] Dvyjones: welcome back, then. :) [12:18:22] um k thanks [12:18:23] wh2: As long as there are nothing in front of the php-files [12:18:36] Dvyjones: also, on http://henhod44.freehostia.com/ I get the following: Error, Setup.php must be included from the file scope, after DefaultSettings.php [12:18:54] o I thought it's much like html tags and they can't well be omitted like tahat [12:18:56] yup, I noticed that, that is what I need to change... [12:21:32] I have enLocalSettings.php and noLocalSettings.php, LocalSettings.php looks like this: http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72427 [12:28:10] 03mkroetzsch * r24900 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/Relations/SMW_SpecialTypes.php: Updated special page for listing types (use new type API, some functions still disabled) [12:29:07] 03mkroetzsch * r24901 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (includes/SMW_DV_Types.php languages/SMW_Language.php): New interfaces for dealing with builtin types [12:31:40] 03mkroetzsch * r24902 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Moved SpecialTypes to ./specials/QueryPages + enable lazy loading for this code [12:31:53] 03(NEW) New option in categorizing - feature request. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10988 15enhancement; lowest; MediaWiki: Categories; (dodekam) [12:33:14] 03(NEW) Contributionseditcount extension : internationalization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10989 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin) [12:39:11] 03(mod) New option in categorizing - feature request. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10988 +comment (10dodekam) [12:39:31] never mind, it works now [12:57:54] Is there a regular expression channel on freenode? [12:58:44] apparently #regex is [12:58:56] yup, i found out [13:03:43] Hi, I have a big problem. I need to create a hook but have no clue about hooks. I have 2 extensions that only get enabled by adding a code to the article. Now i cannot add the codes manually to 4500 articles. The hook should do that, so that the codes are at the end of every article page automatically. So which hook do i need to run and what would the function be? Or is there even another solution? [13:17:50] How do I set so the article links point to mywiki.org/pool/ and the script is mywiki.org/indexpool.php (all the .htaccess things are fixed) [13:29:26] 03(NEW) redirect-only messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10990 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (dannychia) [13:31:45] hmm [13:31:52] I don't have pretty URL [13:31:55] there are ? [13:32:00] in my wiki's url [14:03:54] 03(mod) Watched page not in Special:Watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10986 +comment (10cbrown1023) [14:08:16] 03mkroetzsch * r24903 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (13 files in 4 dirs): Updated semantic statistics page to new storage engine. Also more efficient now. [14:14:54] 03mkroetzsch * r24904 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (4 files in 2 dirs): New name for SpecialExtendedStatistics [14:15:29] 03mkroetzsch * r24905 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/ExtendedStatistics/: Delete old files [14:40:34] can i somehow add content at the end of all existing wiki pages? [14:40:51] articles and categories that is [14:57:39] hello [14:57:54] I have a question : in which extension can we find the following system message ? [14:58:08] pfunc_rel2abs_invalid_depth [14:58:30] pfunc_time_error [14:58:32] something related to parserFunctions? [14:58:38] pfunc_time_too_long [15:00:14] Thank's Jack_Phoenix [15:00:25] np, it was just a guess :) [15:00:32] I'll translate message into french language [15:16:00] 03mkroetzsch * r24906 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/ (6 files): Included missing message placeholders [15:16:37] 03mkroetzsch * r24907 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (20 files in 4 dirs): [15:16:37] Optimised file inclusion -- largely on-demand now. Significant speed up for cached pages and other operations [15:16:37] that do not require any processing from SMW. [15:17:21] 14(DUP) New option in categorizing - feature request. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10988 +comment (10danny_b) [15:17:21] 03(mod) Request: parameters in categories - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1775 +comment (10danny_b) [15:20:48] 03mkroetzsch * r24908 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/articlepages/SMW_TypePage.php: Fixed display of properties for given type page. [15:36:57] 03(mod) redirect-only messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10990 (10danny_b) [15:43:39] 03(FIXED) parsing, db query and rendering should be separated - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8517 +comment (10mak) [15:48:05] 03(mod) ENotif/EConfirm & further enhancements (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932 (10mormegil) [15:48:06] 03(mod) Some watchlist pages are bold at random - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10172 -shell ; +comment (10mormegil) [15:48:36] 14(DUP) Changed/Updated since my last visit feature doesn' t reflect on my last visits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10884 +comment (10mormegil) [15:48:37] 03(mod) Some watchlist pages are bold at random - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10172 (10mormegil) [15:48:45] 14(DUP) Edits by me are bold in my watchlist, but they shouldn't be - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9894 +comment (10mormegil) [15:48:46] 03(mod) Some watchlist pages are bold at random - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10172 (10mormegil) [15:52:53] 03(FIXED) label not shown in left colum of table - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7502 +comment (10mak) [15:57:07] 03(ASSIGNED) Semantic Mediawiki extension increases pages load time - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9974 +comment (10mak) [15:59:48] 03(FIXED) SMW_SpecialExtendedStatistics - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9821 +comment (10mak) [16:03:28] 03(mod) Setting a temporary usergroup - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10493 (10helios89) [16:23:29] 03(NEW) Internationalization of the extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10991 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (bertrand.grondin) [16:24:40] 03(NEW) Upload null revision doesn't update page.page_latest - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10992 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (webboy) [16:29:03] it's my bug [16:29:13] :-) [16:32:15] *VoiceOfAll looks [16:33:54] my bug is http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10991 :-))) the third of this day [16:34:59] 03aaron * r24909 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/ (ICRepo.php LocalFile.php): *Update page on null revisions made for uploads [16:36:08] do you guys know wiki-site.com (media)wikis? is there maybe a channel for them [16:36:09] 03(FIXED) Upload null revision doesn't update page.page_latest - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10992 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [16:39:14] 03robchurch * r24910 10/trunk/extensions/inputbox/InputBox.i18n.php: French localisation update, c/o Bertrand GRONDIN [16:39:31] 03(FIXED) Internationalization of the extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10987 +comment (10robchur) [16:43:09] Hi, I have a big problem. I need to create a hook but have no clue about hooks. I have 2 extensions that only get enabled by adding a code to the article. Now i cannot add the codes manually to 4500 articles. The hook should do that, so that the codes are at the end of every article page automatically. So which hook do i need to run and what would the function be? Or is there even another solution? [16:43:10] 03(mod) redirect-only messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10990 (10robchur) [16:49:04] there are at least four instances of the comparison between page_len and stubthreshold : 2 in Linker.php and 2 in Parser.php... [16:49:14] 03mkroetzsch * r24911 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Internationalised error messages for inline queries. [16:51:51] 03mkroetzsch * r24912 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: Minor minor version increment [16:53:50] 03(mod) Watched page not in Special:Watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10986 (10robchur) [16:55:33] 03aaron * r24913 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ (ParserFunctions.i18n.php ParserFunctions.php): *Internationalize error messages (patch by Bertrand GRONDIN, bug 10991) [16:56:12] 03(FIXED) Internationalization of the extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10991 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [16:59:12] 03robchurch * r24914 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.i18n.php: Code style, whitespace, doc block, etc. - kill the trailing ?> again [17:01:12] 03aaron * r24915 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: *Fix method setting order [17:05:50] 03(NEW) [edit] [edit] superimposed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10993 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (aclela12) [17:07:21] 03mkroetzsch * r24916 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/ (8 files): Further cleaned-up messages. [17:10:53] 03(mod) [edit] [edit] superimposed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10993 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:28:12] 03(mod) User preference for no email notification for minor edits does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918 +comment (10sacolcor) [17:29:39] 03(mod) User preference for no email notification for minor edits does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918 +easy (10sacolcor) [17:31:16] 03(mod) [edit] [edit] superimposed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10993 (10robchur) [17:33:44] 03(mod) User preference for no email notification for minor edits does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918 (10robchur) [17:38:17] Email notification code is a bit of a mess. [17:38:40] Hang on...I'll have a patch for that in a minute or two... [17:39:47] 14(DUP) [edit] [edit] superimposed - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10993 +comment (10danny_b) [17:39:48] 03(mod) Section edit links showing up in wrong place - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1629 +comment (10danny_b) [17:40:40] 03(ASSIGNED) User preference for no email notification for minor edits does not work - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918 +comment (10sacolcor) [17:44:37] robchurch: Agreed. The patch is posted, but I don't have check-in rights; someone else will have to take it from here. [17:48:51] namespace search: a year ago i disabled the display of the searched namespace. the tickboxes don't show up on the result page anymore but i wan tit to show up again. dunno where i changed it :( [17:50:46] robchurch: the "mark as visited" things is more of mess [17:50:57] It's all a bit of a mess. [17:51:18] are you reviewing the minor edit patch? [17:52:14] Yes. [17:53:02] ok, I won't step on your feet then [17:53:34] 03(mod) Update for Cantonese language (zh-yue) #53, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese (PRC) and Chinese (Taiwan) localisation (zh-cn/zh-tw) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10972 +comment (10shinjiman) [17:56:48] Hi all. Profiling question: wha does $wgLang->getCode() take so long? I find that a good 60% of my extensions setup time are taken by this lookup of the users language. [17:57:59] Stats are currently something like Time: 1180.84 Count: 17 for just the single line $code = $wgLang->getCode(). [17:58:11] Where is this occuring? In an extension setup function? [17:58:38] during execution of $wgExtensionFunctions[] [17:58:45] I thought so. [17:59:09] $wgLang is not a Language object at that time; it'll be a StubUserLang, which will then be unstubbed on the first call to a method. [17:59:17] I would imagine this is what's increasing the time. [17:59:44] is unstubbing happening sometime later anyway (so I should not care), or should I try to prevent the call? [18:00:22] A stub object is unstubbed when an object method is called, that's part of the stub object mechanism. [18:00:40] It defers object initialisation until it's needed. [18:00:55] OK, but are there many cases in MW where the user language can remain unstubbed? [18:01:10] No, the user language will almost certainly be unstubbed at some point. [18:02:09] ok, thanks. Then it will not be a major issue for me to avoid this call ... [18:03:54] *robchurch frowns [18:03:58] Have the stylesheets been changed? [18:07:51] Hi, I have a big problem. Yesterda we found out that I need to create a hook but have no clue about hooks. I have an extension that only get enabled by adding a code at the end of the article page. Now i cannot add the extension code manually to 4500 articles. The hook should do that, so that the code is at the end of every article (and maybe category) page automatically. So which hook do i need to run and what would the function be? Or is there even an [18:17:49] Anyone have any idea what files I need to copy to access my wiki's pages on another computer? [18:18:43] my wiki is currenly offline, I'm using Xampp. I want to take my wiki with my on my laptop. [18:27:46] SykoSilver: localsettings and the database for sure. maybe more. [18:29:54] I'll just copy the whole thing [18:34:15] So if I paste the midiawiki folder from my desktop, onto the one I'm installing on my laptop, will it work OK? [18:39:34] do we have a list somewhere of what HTML elements are not useable on wikipedia/mediawiki? [18:40:27] 03mkroetzsch * r24917 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (7 files in 2 dirs): [18:40:27] More profiling. Faster loading. Longest time during setup remains loading of user messages (first [18:40:27] access to $wgLang). [18:40:33] Alkivar: html elements a not useable by default, some are allowed [18:40:37] 03aaron * r24918 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Fix some syntax bugs [18:44:52] 03(NEW) Internationalization of the extension french - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10994 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: DynamicPageList2; (bertrand.grondin) [18:58:44] - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id= summary; +comment (10mormegil) [18:59:05] how can i add an extension code automatically at the bottom of all articles? [19:14:47] <_Danny_B_> hmm, wikibugs got mad [19:15:07] how can wikibugs get mad? it is a bot! [19:15:14] MONK3: use the OutputPageBeforeHTML hook? [19:15:23] wikibugs: meow meow [19:15:24] <_Danny_B_> kiba: seen the last post? [19:15:30] *VoiceOfAll kicks wikibugs [19:17:36] hmm [19:17:42] what so special about it? [19:24:41] hi everyone [19:25:12] been using mediawiki troublefree for about two years but today I stumbled into some mess I haven't been able to solve yet [19:26:08] using freebsd and just portupgraded from 1.7.4 to 1.10.1 and all the wikis (I'm running three) just give a white page on IE7 [19:26:34] Check your PHP error log. [19:26:37] mysql/php/apache are upgraded aswell and works properly [19:26:45] the error log says this --> http://mediawiki.pastey.net/72443 [19:32:06] adding the full path to StartProfiler.php in includes/Webstart.php on line 69 seems to solve the problem for one the the three sites [19:32:48] That sort of thing shouldn't happen in a consistent installation. Where did you get it? mediawiki.org, or a package manager/other source? [19:35:05] I just used the builtin package manager in freebsd [19:35:26] using portupgrade with the freebsd ports collection [19:35:43] http://www.freshports.org/www/mediawiki/ [19:38:14] Try downloading it from mediawiki.org. Package managers will often move things around or do other weird stuff, for reasons best left to them. [19:38:40] ok, will try that [19:38:45] another question [19:40:54] I get the feeling that only the site that is up and running again was updated when I executed "php update.php" [19:41:39] is there any need to pass the other sites as parameters to update.php to update them as well? [19:43:25] I'm not sure what you mean. Normally there's one database specified in the LocalSettings.php for a given installation. That will be updated. [19:47:40] Simetrical: thanks, that sheed some light on the issue [19:48:30] I have one LocalSettings.php in /usr/local/www/mediawiki/ and one in each site that is located in /usr/local/www/data// [19:49:00] the one in mediawiki is pretty much identical to the one in the site that is up and running again [19:49:10] the same dbname and so on [19:49:34] so the update.php was just updating one of the sites [19:50:06] so now the question is how tell update.php to use the other LocalSettings.php to update those other two sites aswell [19:56:17] 03(mod) Allow users to specify file categories when uploading - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8951 (10le.korrigan) [19:58:48] 03(NEW) Internationalization of the extension : NewUserNotif - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10995 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin) [20:05:39] erson, don't you just want to run /usr/local/www/data//maintenance/update.php for all of them? [20:07:39] hi does anyone knows how to change the opacity of the mainpage? [20:08:04] on monobook.css [20:09:11] I change the opacity of the searchbar with #p-search { opacity:0.80; } [20:09:14] 03(mod) [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] do not work right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 +comment (10thomas.dalton) [20:09:22] Simetrical: that would be ideal yes... but we have only one wikipedia installation... every site just symlinks to the same /usr/local/www/mediawiki/maintenance for example [20:10:22] emrezer: opacity:.8; inside #contentSub { in main.css ..i guess [20:10:37] oke I will try [20:11:09] i just have it in portlet, or something [20:12:02] mutante: it's not #contentSub [20:12:04] erson, ah, right. There's some way to do it, then, but I'm not sure how offhand. Try running something like maintenance.php --help. [20:12:24] Simetrical: the ugly solution was to move the two others sites LocalSettings.php to mediawiki/ and then run the update.php again [20:12:26] I mean tha mainpage where all of the thing is going on [20:12:31] erson, :D [20:12:37] so all three sites are up and running again :) [20:13:01] Simetrical: so thanks alot for all your help pushing me in the right direction [20:13:14] or which file I can dig it? [20:13:21] emrezer: just #content { ? shrug [20:13:50] emrezer: the file is main.css [20:13:59] emrezer, what exactly is the element you want to select? I'm not clear what you want. [20:14:34] simetrical: where mainpage and all other pages exist [20:15:23] emrezer, give me a picture. You aren't clear enough. [20:15:57] I get wat I want from mutante thank you very much mutante ;) [20:18:18] yes, he isnt clear enough, thats why he wants to set "opacity;" :) [20:18:52] :P [20:18:55] np emrezer , so just #content? ;) [20:24:48] yes it was content thank you very much ;) [20:33:05] 03(mod) [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] do not work right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 (10thomas.dalton) [20:34:32] anyone here familiar with DPL? [20:34:37] I've got a few questions about it [20:35:45] 1. can I use DPL (or something) to extract information from a wiki article? For instance, if I want to automatically generate a list of (say) 'Reports' in the system, can it grab the report abstract and present that in the list? [20:36:26] 2. can I examine metainformation about an article found using DPL, and use that in ordering? For instance, order the reports by publication date (or date of inclusion in the wiki, whatever)? [20:37:23] 3. can I use DPL to pull the articles into the wrapper with the DPL call (I've got a bunch of small articles in my system, and on some pages I transclude them in a master article... I'd like to automate this so a new article gets pulled in automatically) [20:38:02] 3a. if I do so, can I have it strip [[category]] designations? I don't want the master article to show up as being of the category itself (it contains multiple Foo, but is not itself a Foo) [20:38:32] (also, since the DPL call would be using the category to choose the articles, I don't want it to accidentally recurse) [20:38:52] semi-related (same ultimate problem, but not DPL), what control do I have over category presentation? [20:39:14] if I can get DPL to do the things I want, I'd like to remove the list of articles in the category (since they'll already be shown in the category directly) [20:43:58] 03(mod) [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] do not work right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [20:46:18] How do I add ? and = into the URL of in internal wikilink? [20:46:44] You don't. Use an external link. [20:47:18] I am atm [20:47:20] but the thing is [20:47:33] i don't want that little external link icon to come up [20:47:35] it's just annoying [20:47:38] meh [20:47:39] and ruins my entire layout [20:47:41] use CSS to hide it [20:47:43] or [20:47:58] [http://google.com link] [20:49:29] ahh [20:49:35] thanks Jack Phoenix [20:49:48] np [21:01:21] Jack_Phoenix? [21:01:25] (or anyone else) [21:01:28] yes? [21:01:30] is it possible to make a form [21:01:46] with a textbox [21:01:55] that a user inputs the title of an article [21:02:01] and a drop down list [21:02:07] hmm [21:02:10] WAIT [21:02:12] let me finish [21:02:25] I guess there could be an extension for that kind of stuff...or then you can write one ;-) [21:02:29] just wait [21:02:32] PLEASE [21:02:33] GBenemy: look at DPL [21:02:38] kjdavies [21:02:43] I know HOW to make a form [21:02:45] ok [21:02:47] let me start from the END [21:02:51] of what i was going to say [21:03:30] Is it possible to make a form with..... [21:03:32] ............. [21:03:33] That when submitted will CHECK if an article of that name exists, and if it doesn't will redirect the user to that page to start the article? [21:04:31] you mean like the current search bar already does? [21:10:56] 03robchurch * r24919 10/trunk/extensions/NewUserNotif/NewUserNotif.i18n.php: (bug 10995) French localisation, c/o Bertrand GRONDIN [21:11:04] 03(FIXED) Internationalization of the extension : NewUserNotif - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10995 +comment (10robchur) [21:12:51] 03robchurch * r24920 10/trunk/extensions/DynamicPageList2/DynamicPageList2.i18n.php: (bug 10994) French localisation update, c/o Bertrand GRONDIN [21:12:55] 03(FIXED) Internationalization of the extension french - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10994 +comment (10robchur) [21:13:42] 14(INVALID) needs to be able to allocate more memory - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10969 +comment (10robchur) [21:15:35] Ryan_Lane: yes [21:15:56] why not use the search form? ;) [21:16:01] because [21:16:05] I have a page [21:16:10] Tutorials:Submit [21:16:22] I was just going to put information on how to submit [21:16:29] but if i can put a form then even better [21:16:35] with a category listing [21:16:50] so users can choose 1 (or more) categories to put their article in [21:17:02] which will be automatically inserted into the new article [21:18:31] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CreateArticle [21:18:35] 03robchurch * r24921 10/trunk/extensions/Contributionseditcount/ (Contributionseditcount.i18n.php Contributionseditcount.php): [21:18:35] (bug 10989): [21:18:35] * Introduce messages file [21:18:35] * French localisation, c/o Bertrand GRONDIN [21:18:40] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Inputbox [21:18:49] 03(FIXED) Contributionseditcount extension : internationalization - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10989 +comment (10robchur) [21:19:26] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets [21:19:39] one of those three may do what you want [21:19:44] 03(FIXED) UsernameBlacklist doesn't check for invalid items well - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10133 +comment (10robchur) [21:21:23] Thanks Ryan_Lane: I'll check them out [21:21:28] n/p [21:21:57] 03(FIXED) Split ConfirmEdit configuration per namespaces - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9255 +comment (10robchur) [21:22:42] 03(mod) Links don't reflect target existence (EasyTimeline) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4 summary (10robchur) [21:25:53] what's the standard dimensions of the wikimedia logo? [21:25:57] 63 X63? [21:26:02] *GBenemy needs to know [21:26:40] 03robchurch * r24922 10/trunk/extensions/UsernameBlacklist/ (UsernameBlacklist.i18n.php UsernameBlacklist.php): Kill some end-of-file whitespace [21:27:04] 03(FIXED) Replace variables in "default" parameter - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2847 +comment (10robchur) [21:27:13] 135px square, if you're talking about the top-left logo? [21:28:14] yes, i am [21:28:18] thanks robchurch [21:29:21] 03(FIXED) Large blacklists fail due to PCRE regex size limits - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3632 +comment (10robchur) [21:30:13] 14(DUP) Proposal for wgSpamRegex Extension - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4698 +comment (10robchur) [21:30:15] 03(mod) Spam-blacklist management - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4459 +comment (10robchur) [21:30:53] 03(FIXED) Spam blacklist (tracking) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4462 +comment (10robchur) [21:33:52] Hello, guys. How do I install extensions on a wiki? I only have Bureaucrat and Sysop status. [21:34:09] You need FTP access. [21:34:27] Bureaucrats don't get to run arbitrary code. :) [21:34:29] I thought so. [21:35:02] Is there someone I can ask to do it? [21:35:06] 03(NEW) bug on Contributionseditcount translation in french - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10996 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin) [21:35:09] Whoever runs the wiki. [21:35:34] Alright, thanks for the help, guys. [21:36:33] 03robchurch * r24923 10/trunk/extensions/Contributionseditcount/Contributionseditcount.i18n.php: (bug 10996) Fix bug in French localisation, c/o Bertrand GRONDIN [21:36:43] 03(mod) bug on Contributionseditcount translation in french - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10996 (10robchur) [21:36:52] 03(FIXED) bug on Contributionseditcount translation in french - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10996 (10robchur) [21:38:45] 04(REOPENED) needs to be able to allocate more memory - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10969 +comment (10Gerard.meijssen) [21:40:50] Someone hit Gerard for me. [21:42:09] 03(mod) [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] do not work right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 (10thomas.dalton) [21:42:15] 14(INVALID) needs to be able to allocate more memory - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10969 +comment (10robchur) [21:45:00] out of curiosity [21:45:27] inside template invocations, it can be necessary to use {{!}} (after defining, of course) to escape pipes [21:45:42] if you want to pass the template a table, say. [21:46:11] however, it seems in template definitions, you can use \n to indicate an explicit linefeed (which would otherwise be stripped when template arguments are parsed) [21:46:22] 03(mod) [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] do not work right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 (10robchur) [21:46:35] so, why not (add support for) \| to escape the pipe? [21:46:40] (just wondering, really) [21:46:49] 1. Because no-one's done it [21:47:01] 2. Because we have no idea if it'll break existing wiki text [21:47:07] heh, robchurch. About what I expected [21:47:20] though the second is a good reason why it wasn't done [21:47:56] \n equates to
, it seems [21:50:47] i have never seen \n... it sounds suspicious, if it works. [21:51:03] like... something being evaled in a way it shouldn't be. [21:51:10] I just read about it in the DPL:Manual [21:51:23] maybe that feature is specific to DPL? [21:51:37] don't think so, I just used it in a template I've got [21:51:56] hmm, interesting [21:52:12] worked okay when I previewed (in the template definition), but not here. [21:52:18] okay, back to
[21:52:29] By \n you mean a character with Unicode code point U+A, or a sequence of two characters '\\n'? [21:52:41] two characters [21:52:57] Certainly doesn't work normally in MW code. Dunno about DPL. [21:53:31] I noticed [21:53:43] well, if they're doing something weird, my earlier question becomes meaningless [21:53:52] gah, of course [21:54:04] when I did my preview, it previewed it using the stored template [21:54:07] not the one I'm editing [21:54:37] <_Danny_B_> kjdavies: in which template you tested it? [21:54:39] which explains why it looked right... I stored it, then previewing on fixing showed the wrong display [21:54:45] _Danny_B_: one in my wiki [21:56:49] 03(mod) [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] do not work right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 (10thomas.dalton) [22:00:17] 04(REOPENED) needs to be able to allocate more memory - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10969 +comment (10Gerard.meijssen) [22:02:07] *robchurch sighs [22:02:23] I don't see what he doesn't understand; if his software requires more memory, then he needs to allocate more. [22:02:48] Alternatively, if a particular module is causing unacceptable requirements, then he needs to pester his programmers to make it less memory-intensive. [22:03:02] Either way, the generic issue is not one which should be argued on our bug tracker. [22:03:18] remove ticket, shoot user, move on? [22:03:19] <_Danny_B_> send him here or to list [22:04:07] It's not a pure MediaWiki issue, though. [22:04:17] no, it isn't [22:04:21] It's not something that should be discussed in any standard MediaWiki forum whatsoever. [22:04:34] "DPL never returns its own page in the result." <-- good to know [22:04:43] _Danny_B_: GerardM- is already here. [22:05:18] Rob, OmegaWiki is an existing extention and this issue has been marked as such [22:05:39] So? Your bug is far too ambiguous for anyone to try to solve. [22:05:43] Read what I wrote above. [22:06:01] and also .. I am doing the pestering [22:06:23] You can't expect to hide a general purpose grumble on a bug tracker and then have your people fix it; they either need to be told directly to find and fix the memory leak or otherwise just raise the damn limit. [22:06:31] it is also the bugtracker for OmegaWiki [22:06:38] I distinctly dislike you directly insulting my intelligence, however. [22:06:49] '? [22:06:51] "Are you sure this isn't a software issue?" Well, no, it's not. [22:07:03] If your code is using up a lot of memory, then perhaps it's a *design* issue. [22:07:14] when it indicates a memory leak it is [22:07:21] Then clarify the summary. [22:07:26] 03(mod) [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] do not work right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10985 (10wikipedia.kawaii.neko) [22:07:44] Better still, find the bloody memory leak and fix it. [22:08:09] 8M is too low for MediaWiki itself to run half the time, isn't it? [22:08:12] if I did the programming as you are so font of saying, would I enter the bug report [22:08:22] ? [22:08:28] If you did any programming whatsoever, Gerard, you wouldn't be half the pain in the ass that you are. [22:08:50] *Simetrical gently sits robchurch down in a chair facing away from Gerard and gives him an iPod [22:08:51] I have probably done more programming then you give me credit for [22:08:57] that was AS/400 [22:09:00] Simetrical: No, it's not. Usually, MediaWiki will try to raise it to about 20MB, which is a good improvement, although not always anywhere near enough, depending upon the circumstances. [22:09:20] Obviously, if you're doing things which require quite a bit of RAM, then you'll need *quite a bit of RAM* [22:09:40] well the system does have ram [22:09:56] *quite a bit* [22:10:15] GerardM-, but only 8M are allowed to OmegaWiki. [22:10:35] Frankly, Gerard, I couldn't give a shit whether you wrote the code for the original Garden of Eden software using a paper clip and a wad of gum; your interaction with many others is even more appalling than mine, and that's pretty difficult to do. [22:10:38] 03(mod) OmegaWiki should use less memory - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10969 major->15enhancement; summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [22:10:43] ... it is not my place to fix .. yes .. I do not do the configuring [22:11:36] Not only have you been considerably offensive to me this evening, but you apparently aren't communicating your requirements effectively to your team; your bug is incredibly ambiguous and doesn't lend itself to many responses. [22:12:28] Rob .. it has been communicated outside of your view quite extensively [22:12:33] DoubleRedirects doesn't seem to suit caching very much. [22:13:18] Regardless of whether or not it's cached, it'll go ahead and run the full query sooner or later. [22:13:28] *robchurch considers [22:13:31] What do you mean? [22:13:41] Take a look. [22:14:14] In fact, it runs the query multiple times in the cached case; once for each result (with a different WHERE clause). [22:15:29] I'm not sure if there's an easy workaround without removing the extra bits and pieces. [22:15:38] (The edit links) [22:22:32] How can I change the backgorund picture? [22:22:54] <_Danny_B_> emrezer: edit css file(s) [22:24:57] No, don't do that. Edit MediaWiki:Monobook.css. [22:26:28] <_Danny_B_> Simetrical: eh? monobook.css isn't css file? [22:27:18] No, it's a page on the wiki. [22:27:32] The files, such as main.css and shared.css, should not be modified. [22:27:35] <_Danny_B_> which generates css file [22:28:10] <_Danny_B_> just a terminology [22:28:15] It doesn't generate a file at all. [22:28:23] why it should not be modified? [22:28:33] <_Danny_B_> robchurch: but? [22:28:33] "Edit CSS file(s)" will lead to the wrong impression, most of the time. [22:28:40] emrezer, because changes will be overwritten on your next upgrade. [22:28:46] oke [22:28:52] And it's just as easy to edit MediaWiki:Monobook.css to the same effect. [22:29:03] <_Danny_B_> emrezer: what exactly would you like to change? you don't like the open-book background? [22:29:21] I want to make something special and unique [22:30:06] <_Danny_B_> then it also depends on the skin used [22:30:26] <_Danny_B_> take a look on mediawiki:common.css as well [22:32:59] _Danny_B_, he was talking about the background, which is skin-specific. [22:33:46] <_Danny_B_> Simetrical: it is and it is not. why couldn't be same background in all skins? [22:34:11] Well, they use radically different HTML, so you couldn't style them at the same time through Common.css. [22:34:26] You'd have to style the Monobook-based skins and the non-Monobook-based separately. [22:34:34] <_Danny_B_> Simetrical: come on, tag is in every skin ;-) [22:35:01] Different stuff is on top of it. [22:35:45] <_Danny_B_> doesn't have effect - background is in back regardless what's on the top (or i completely misunderstand what you mean) [22:37:04] If I put pink ponies as the background, I expect everyone to be able to see them. [22:37:37] <_Danny_B_> :-) [22:37:51] But pink ponies in the background of non-Monobook-based skins might obscure the actual text. [22:37:56] Especially if that's pink too. [22:38:01] is there any other from using url way to tell the path to wiki [22:38:13] ARE YOU DISRESPECTING PINK PONIES? [22:38:21] Whereas Monobook has the opaque #(column-)?content layer between the text and the body. [22:38:21] they deserve it [22:38:44] <_Danny_B_> rob's pink ponies rock of course [22:38:45] incidentally, is there a way to have [[[Article Name]]] present correctly? [22:38:53] (as []) [22:39:08] url("http://www.blabla/a.jpg") I use this command but I think it slows down my site [22:39:27] I've been using [ [[Article Name]] ], but I don't like the spaces [22:39:28] _Danny_B_: like this? http://www.dollhouseminiatures.com/images/toys/im68010pinkrockinghorse.jpg [22:39:45] Brain! [22:39:57] *kjdavies has a friend whose daughter was remarkably well-bent [22:40:02] Fuck 'aye, they rock. [22:40:09] couldn't call it Pinky (too obvious), so 'Brain' [22:40:25] <_Danny_B_> kjdavies: [[[link]]] [22:40:45] or html entities [22:40:45] _Danny_B_: yuck. But at least it's in a template and I only have to do it 'once' (for this one, at least) [22:40:48] _Danny_B_: thanks [22:41:04] <_Danny_B_> Duesentrieb: yay! let's put it as default mw background! [22:41:14] tiled. [22:41:19] _Danny_B_: Not enough cowbell. [22:41:20] <_Danny_B_> exactly [22:41:27] _Danny_B_: yeah, that looks better [22:42:25] <_Danny_B_> kjdavies: or use [ instead of the very first left bracket - then you won't have to wrap it in [22:42:34] meh. works [22:43:10] <_Danny_B_> sure. i don't like it though. it's annoying a bit. but that's my pov [22:43:18] oh, it is [22:43:21] but I can live with it [22:43:31] more readable than [, at least [22:46:51] I can never remember that hex code. [22:47:40] <_Danny_B_> 5b 5d are for [] 7b 7d are for {} [22:47:45] what is the path of the monobook backgorund picture? or what is the name of it? [22:48:24] emrezer: get FireBug [22:48:32] <_Danny_B_> /skins-1.5/monobook/headbg.jpg [22:48:40] skins/monobook/headbg.jpg [22:48:59] its up part [22:49:05] main? [22:49:27] <_Danny_B_> there's no other [22:53:06] 03(NEW) Most linked redirects - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10997 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (helios89) [22:58:02] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10fearow00) [23:01:21] <_Danny_B_> hehe, nice. didn't know about that bug [23:01:46] <_Danny_B_> apparently it's not only me who has the same idea [23:04:28] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10alex9891) [23:05:49] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 +comment (10cbrown1023) [23:06:03] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 +comment (10danny_b) [23:07:50] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10cbrown1023) [23:11:32] <_Danny_B_> anybody knows what's cbrown1023's irc nick? [23:12:15] Worby [23:12:25] or, Cbrown1023 :) [23:12:27] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10cbrown1023) [23:12:36] _Dany_B_: /me waves [23:12:44] _Danny_B_* [23:12:50] (those underscores drive me crazy :-P ) [23:13:39] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 +comment (10lilewyn) [23:13:47] 03(mod) Create "editprotected" right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10974 (10cbrown1023) [23:15:34] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10cbrown1023) [23:15:37] 03(mod) Create "editprotected" right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10974 (10alex9891) [23:17:55] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 +comment (10alex9891) [23:18:34] 03(mod) Create "editprotected" right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10974 (10cbrown1023) [23:18:43] *Worby slaps Majorly [23:23:07] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10danny_b) [23:24:07] stupid hotmail [23:24:12] 03(mod) Create "editprotected" right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10974 +comment (10axel9891) [23:24:16] <_Danny_B_> should we join those bugs (actually their talks) together? [23:24:19] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10cbrown1023) [23:24:24] see my edit [23:24:37] 03rotem * r24924 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.i18n.php: Hebrew translation. [23:24:50] <_Danny_B_> Majorly: have you seen the use case in mail i sent to list? [23:26:14] 03(NEW) Configure Nagios to report to toolserver IRC for toolserver outages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10998 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (fearow00) [23:27:26] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 +comment (10axel9891) [23:27:34] Hunter Smith: the most accurate holder to ever play the game [23:27:34] does anyone here use DPL? [23:27:45] (Dynamic Page List extension) [23:28:00] my test page in my wiki isn't doing what the DPL documentation says it should be [23:28:05] _Danny_B_: remind me again [23:30:29] <_Danny_B_> Majorly: they exactly use the right to edit protected pages for people with higher trust, also protecting subjectspaces while talks are unprotected. anyway, i just recalled another example - school wiki - teachers can edit protected while students can't [23:30:37] 03(NEW) Create Community-l - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10999 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (cbrown1023) [23:30:55] *_Danny_B_ wonders what's in 10999 [23:31:00] community-l [23:31:29] <_Danny_B_> suddenly ;-) [23:31:31] *Majorly imagines his college having a wiki as a website [23:31:38] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10fearow00) [23:31:50] <_Danny_B_> Worby: what's that for? [23:32:17] <_Danny_B_> (i'm not on foundation-l) [23:32:32] just for "community-related stuff" [23:32:36] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10fearow00) [23:32:40] 03(mod) Create Community-l - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10999 +comment (10axel9891) [23:32:41] not concerning the wider foundation :) [23:33:39] <_Danny_B_> yay, matt has put the same use case in 10597 as i did in list [23:33:44] see teh link axel9891 put on there, _Danny_B_ [23:34:43] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10axel9891) [23:40:43] <_Danny_B_> Majorly: i think i started to understand you. the deal is you think about _protection_. but the goal is that there should be some kind of mechanism to set something like "necessary user level" to edit such page, which is currently impossible [23:45:49] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10fearow00) [23:46:58] <_Danny_B_> i wonder why wikibugs never says "+ comment" when bug action from fearow00 occures [23:47:26] *Worby doesn't know [23:47:32] hmm odd [23:47:32] has it said +comment at all tonight? [23:47:48] it did to community-l [23:47:50] but not this bug [23:48:10] it did earlier [23:48:53] well, the bug shouldn't really have come [23:48:59] _Danny_B_'s bug is best [23:49:08] what fearow asked originally [23:49:11] needs discussion elsewhere [23:50:51] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10axel9891) [23:53:24] 06(LATER) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [23:54:27] lol closed [23:54:33] not gonna happen [23:54:40] it's "LATER" [23:54:45] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10cbrown1023) [23:54:46] it should be discussed on wiki anyway [23:55:23] no it shouldn't [23:55:30] it's perennial [23:55:35] no one will agree [23:55:40] <_Danny_B_> Majorly: there is editinterface already sou editprotected should not cover that [23:55:55] huh? [23:56:10] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [23:56:23] <_Danny_B_> Majorly: commenting your comment #24 in 10597 [23:56:25] 03(mod) Create "editprotected" right - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10974 (10cbrown1023) [23:56:29] hello - I am blind tonigt - which is the $wg.... setting to allow only logged-in users to modify pages? [23:57:29] cohan: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_anonymous_editing [23:57:35] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [23:58:29] hm - thanx a lot - i expected some hint here, but did not find it: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings [23:58:41] :)