[00:01:21] i'll add a link to Configuration_settings [00:06:06] done - gn8 [00:06:54] Anyone know how to move pages with ampersands in the title? [00:09:16] <_Danny_B_> alxndr: which one you need to move? [00:09:35] I've got a couple pages on my installation that I need to move. [00:09:43] this is getting frustrating [00:09:50] but! I shall persevere [00:10:03] (and more likely, tomorrow after I've caught up on my sleep deficit, actually see what's wrong) [00:11:03] <_Danny_B_> alxndr: when do you have problems? i mean in which step of moving? [00:13:05] _Danny_B_, Ah, well first off I have the ampersand fix in place for really short urls. Anyway at the "Move page" view, the displayed title isn't correct (has a slash and then repeats part of the title, e.g. "Something & More/Something"), and after putting in a new title and hitting Move page, I get "This action cannot be performed on this page." [00:14:22] <_Danny_B_> alxndr: is your wiki public accessible? [00:14:29] yeah, oberwiki.net [00:16:21] <_Danny_B_> and one page to move is..? [00:16:42] <_Danny_B_> and where [00:17:25] "Seminar Buddhism & Orientalism" to "Seminar: Buddhism & Orientalism" [00:24:21] 03robchurch * r24925 10/trunk/extensions/RandomImage/ (README RandomImage.class.php RandomImage.php): [00:24:21] * Pull captions from image description page if possible; prefer (.*?), then first paragraph [00:24:21] * Limit database picks to files with MIME "image/*" [this might have a performance hit :(] [00:25:32] <_Danny_B_> alxndr: moved [00:26:03] so how did you do that? [00:26:38] <_Danny_B_> replace http://oberwiki.net/Special:Movepage/Seminar_Buddhism_%26_Orientalism with http://oberwiki.net/Special:Movepage?wpOldTitle=Seminar_Buddhism_%26_Orientalism [00:26:49] <_Danny_B_> pretty annoying, but works [00:26:59] aaahh, nice [00:27:04] thanks a million [00:27:11] <_Danny_B_> welcome [00:33:49] <_Danny_B_> alxndr: how many pages you have to move? [00:34:04] just a handful, I already did 'em [00:35:07] 03laner * r24926 10/trunk/extensions/LdapAuthentication/LdapAuthentication.php: [00:35:07] * Fixed problem where getCanonicalName() was munging usernames when [00:35:07] $wgLDAPUseLocal was enabled. (Specific issue was discussed here: [00:35:07] [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:LDAP_Authentication#Local_Username_Munging_and_Local_User_Creation] [00:35:07] ) [00:35:20] 03(mod) Create group on English Wikipedia that can edit protected pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 (10lilewyn) [00:36:06] <_Danny_B_> alxndr: i'd suggest to create either bookmarklet or script to change the move link [00:36:18] <_Danny_B_> just for future [00:36:38] thanks, I'll probably remember it if it comes up in the future [00:52:18] I *so* hate inconsistent behavior [00:53:18] ? [00:56:07] 03robchurch * r24927 10/trunk/extensions/RandomImage/ (README RandomImage.class.php RandomImage.php): Don't use the MIME check if $wgRandomImageStrict is off; default is the opposite of $wgMiserMode [01:44:52] 03(mod) Watched page not in Special:Watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10986 (10N/A) [01:50:08] Alright, I've been using XAMPP for my wiki so far on my desktop, but I want to work on it on my laptop now. So I installed XAMPP and MediaWiki onto my laptop. I have the MediaWiki folder from my desktop copied, do I just paste it or do I move only particular files...? Anyone know? @_@ [01:51:37] 03aaron * r24928 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Show message when editing latest only (don't include stable unless it's on top) [01:52:28] ...hmm, do I need to have created a backup file? I didn't. ^_^;; [02:13:27] does *anyone* here have experience with DPL? (Dynamic Page Lists) [02:13:48] What do you need done? [02:13:56] 'get it to work!' [02:14:01] Oh [02:14:05] more seriously, I've got it installed [02:14:09] (followed the instructions) [02:14:13] it shows up in the extensions list [02:14:21] 03robchurch * r24929 10/trunk/extensions/RandomImage/RandomImage.class.php: Fix captions when size specified [02:14:23] Old version or new? [02:14:27] newest [02:14:33] I can get it to fetch back a list of pages that fit the criteria [02:14:43] (they show up in an unordered list) [02:14:51] Ok... then it's working [02:15:05] well, so you'd think [02:15:08] ^_^ you need help on how to change things arround [02:15:12] yes [02:15:27] What task are you trying to make it do? [02:15:32] includepages... I can get it to include the entire article (includepage=*) [02:15:40] Ok [02:15:41] I want to get a little trickier, though [02:15:49] (actually, let me confirm that last statement) [02:15:55] 03robchurch * r24930 10/trunk/extensions/RandomImage/RandomImage.class.php: Oops... [02:16:05] yep, that worked [02:16:29] now, I want to get a little trickier [02:17:04] ^_^ I need to know what you want to do to help draft the hook. [02:17:05] the articles I'm fetching back, each contains a single template invocation (that I'm interested in; there's a little more stuff I don't care about like category assignments [02:17:13] template:feat [02:17:26] {{feat|name=|brief=|benefit=|}} etc. [02:17:37] I want to display name and brief [02:17:42] Ok [02:17:55] For a little summary... [02:18:10] You can include a template and redirect it to another one. [02:18:16] I *thought* 'includepage={Feat} test' would do it -- create a template class 'Feat test' and it's *supposed* to take care of it [02:18:27] Ok [02:18:28] *kjdavies shuts up and listens [02:18:46] Did you try using "includepage={Feat}_test" instead? [02:19:07] just now [02:19:08] no dice [02:19:14] Got a Wiki url? [02:19:22] Or is it local.. [02:19:37] if I give it a bogus template name (Foo), I get told it wants the template I name [02:19:43] http://wiki.kjd-imc.org/index.php?title=Testpage [02:20:05] you may need to register to get access; it's not wide open [02:20:39] n/m, just granted edit to * [02:20:55] and createpage [02:20:58] meh.. just made an account [02:21:01] heh [02:21:08] okay, removed then [02:21:11] Though I do dislike user only wiki [02:21:25] I may open it up more later [02:21:38] I don't have a huge user base anyway [02:22:04] E-Mail confirmation to edit is a bit much... [02:22:15] that's how it set up, sorry [02:23:17] (fwiw, my background has lots to do with Freedom of Information and Privacy stuff -- relaxing permissions *this* much has been a challenge for me. I'm accustomed to oaths before the court, sort of data) [02:28:12] Hope I don't have to have a backup instead of a copy of the mediawiki folder, just to work on the wiki on another computer with xampp D: [02:32:32] kjdavies: I have a feeling this is some strange thing to do with whitespace [02:33:26] in the DPL call? [02:33:32] or the template? [02:33:49] it *is* fetching back the right articles [02:33:57] it's just not doing the right thing with them [02:34:46] *if* I understand things correctly [02:35:27] 'includepage={Feat} boo' means 'for each instance of {Feat] in the referenced article, call {Feat boo} instead, passing the same arguments' [02:39:41] it seems to want to refuse to call the substitution template altogether [02:40:45] ... [02:40:48] I think I may have it [02:41:07] [[category:assignment]] [02:42:16] http://wiki.kjd-imc.org/Testpage_2 [02:42:27] DPL seems to be picky on calls [02:42:47] very [02:42:49] I was only able to get it to work by using Template:Feat and altering the pages. [02:43:07] But considering how hard normalization is, it's understandable. [02:43:22] oh -- notice that Template:Feat boo isn't being applied correctly? [02:43:52] oh man. am I going to have to go through and modify them *all* like that? 'cause that'll suck [02:43:53] ^_^ well... just mess arround with it till it works. [02:45:18] *sigh* I *hate* 'try stuff until it works' [02:45:24] rotten inconsistent behavior [02:45:29] *kjdavies is grumpy [02:45:36] thanks for your help, though [02:45:46] and notice that 'Feat boo' doesn't seem to work quite right? [02:46:02] does the first part okay, but doesn't replace {{{brief}}} with the content [02:46:13] ... that is, when it gets called [02:56:01] hmm, curious. [02:56:43] n/m, more trouble to explain than it's worth [03:05:57] Dantman|FS: I *think* I may have found the problem. It seems to gag on only *certain* of them -- {{feat}} invocations that include invocations to another (particular) template [03:07:18] *Simetrical just discovered the ls color for "whoever set up these permissions is smoking something": dark blue on dark green [03:07:36] drwxr-xrwx :D [03:08:12] dark blue on dark green [03:08:20] get a bit of dark purple in there, you might have octarine [03:13:08] Dantman|FS: I did in fact identify the problem, finally [03:13:17] thanks for your help, it *was* a parsing problem [03:13:23] ok [03:13:34] a nested template call, which itself had a pipe in it, caused things to choke horribly [03:14:05] having instead '{{ft-mytype}}' (contains [[:Category:My Type Feats|My Type]]) appears to have solved it [03:14:32] (and I know get to tromp through some 180 articles fixing this) [03:14:35] s/know/now [03:14:55] I *could* try running RE over the wiki database [03:15:05] but that strikes me as a scary (and perhaps stupid) idea [03:22:22] ^_^ how about replace.py from the Pywikipediabot framework. [03:23:02] Dantman|FS: are you talking to me? [03:23:10] yp [03:23:13] hrm [03:23:28] If you need to change allot... bots work great [03:27:04] actually, I should go through and check these anyway. And a lot of them are stubs [03:27:14] so while I'm a little bummed, manual checking is probably a good idea anyway [03:37:13] okay, now... how to get a category page to not show articles in the category [03:37:17] (handling this with DPL now) [03:44:31] Amidaniel: You here? [03:55:11] hi [03:55:18] got a table question [03:55:53] what happens if i go |width="20%"|col1||col2 do they both get 20% or just the first one? [03:56:22] Just the first. [03:57:02] does the 2nd col get printed noramlly as if i had not set the width? [04:01:08] Yes. [04:01:14] You need to set it for that one separately. [04:01:27] Well, actually the second column may change width to account for the first's width of 20%. [06:01:45] hmm [06:02:01] uploaded an SVG, can't display it in my wiki (PHP is in safe mode) [06:02:17] is there a way to turn that off? [06:02:34] converting to raster, that is. Can I just show the 'raw' SVG? [06:06:10] ah well, it was worth trying, at least [06:42:26] 03(NEW) Uzbek Wikipedia sitename - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11000 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (abdullais4u) [06:45:19] moin mob [07:33:40] 03david * r24931 10/branches/liquidthreads/extensions/ (LqtExtension.php LqtModel.php): mindblowingly stupid bug [07:40:07] 03(mod) Add section edit link for 0th section - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 (10niels.oestergaard) [07:42:44] 03nickj * r24932 10/trunk/phase3/includes/PageHistory.php: [07:42:44] Prevent E_STRICT warning: [07:42:44] "Trying to get property of non-object in includes/PageHistory.php on line 257" [07:42:44] Happens because $next === 'unknown', i.e. not an object, on one revision for me with the following fuzz command line test on a local test wiki: [07:42:44] curl --silent --include --globoff -F 'offset'='< 03nickj * r24933 10/trunk/extensions/inputbox/inputbox.php: [07:45:12] Prevent E_STRICT warning: [07:45:13] "Undefined property: Inputbox::$namespaces in extensions/inputbox/inputbox.php on line 103" [07:59:16] Hello [08:00:51] once I've set a license for a mediawiki managed site (currently I have it on CC BY-SA 2.5), how do I change it (eg, CC BY-SA 3.0)? I've looked everywhere in the documentation and it doesn't say anything about it [08:04:24] 03nickj * r24934 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiBase.php: Variable $user seemed to be used before it was defined - removing. [08:13:28] 03nickj * r24935 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiPageSet.php: Variable $titleString seemed to be used before it was defined - removing. [08:15:20] Anyone taken a look at [[Special:Allpages]] on en.wikipedia lately? [08:15:41] clocks in at 161.8kb. It should be split again [08:16:14] like, symbols, numbers, a, b, c, d, e..., x, y, z, foreign characters or something [08:16:33] because you could probably knock that down to 20kb/page or less if you did [08:31:28] Can someone here help me with a friend who's been wrongly blocked by [[User:Proxy blocker]] for supposedly running an open proxy but can't be unblocked by the Administrators? [08:31:59] Apparently Proxy blocker was phased out in 2005 and the admins now have no access! [08:36:19] 03Mark Bergsma * r24936 10/trunk/routing/twistedbgp/src/ (bgp.py test.py): [08:36:19] - Add Last Update internal attribute [08:36:19] - Hash/len/order fixes [08:36:19] - Add test.py to SVN [08:38:06] damn, I got used to distributed hierarchical repos [08:45:56] Docta: wrong channel, try #wikimedia-tech [08:46:18] anyway, you'll probablyhave to wait a few hours, until the US comes awake [08:54:08] thanks very much Duesentrieb [09:17:59] lol, robchurch is pissed with gerrard [09:29:41] hmm [09:31:28] 03wegge * r24937 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDa.php: New translations for da [09:38:20] hello [09:47:31] 03raymond * r24938 10/trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Update German [10:15:24] is anyone here familiar with the format of the redirect table in the database? [10:25:26] gerdemb: +--------------+-----------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ [10:25:26] | Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra | [10:25:26] +--------------+-----------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ [10:25:27] | rd_from | int(8) unsigned | NO | PRI | 0 | | [10:25:27] | rd_namespace | int(11) | NO | MUL | 0 | | [10:25:29] | rd_title | varchar(255) | NO | | | | [10:25:32] +--------------+-----------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ [10:25:34] what more is there to know? [10:30:42] 03(mod) Create Community-l - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10999 (10beesley) [10:32:39] I'm trying to use the database to determine where a redirect page lands [10:32:47] ah [10:32:50] which redirect page? [10:33:03] for example, if i look up 'USA' in wikipedia it redirects to 'United States' [10:33:03] 03(mod) Uzbek Wikipedia sitename - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11000 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [10:33:26] essentially, you want SELECT rd_namespace,rd_title FROM redirect WHERE rd_from=(SELECT page_id FROM page WHERE page_title='USA'); [10:35:12] that's what i'm trying, but it doesn't work [10:35:56] i just get an empty result [10:36:39] the page_id WHERE page_title='USA" is 869 [10:37:01] but there is no rd_from with a value of 869 in the redirect database [10:37:24] then it's not a redirect, I suppose - or it hasn't been properly added to the table. [10:37:31] gerdemb: when searching for page_title, always specify the namespace too. [10:37:42] i'm using the simplewiki sql data from wikipedia [10:37:53] same with link tables. title without namespace is meaningless [10:38:30] weird, because when i go to 'USA' on the wiki it definitely redirects to 'United States' [10:38:59] http://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=USA&redirect=no [10:38:59] I presume it's been that redirect since before the table was introduced. [10:39:07] gerdemb: the redirect table was introduced only recently. only redirect pages that have been edited in the last weeks have entries in that table [10:39:18] chat-de-plafond: exactly. [10:39:44] oh, that makes sense then. someone should update the doc then as i didn't see this stated anywhere... [10:40:16] will the redirect table ever include the old redirects? [10:40:33] if they [10:40:37] re all null-edited [10:40:43] eventually [10:40:45] or somebody runs rebuildRedirects.php [10:40:48] or whatever the script is. [10:41:04] at some point, some background script should be written to update all missing entries. [10:41:25] but it'd be fairly low priority [10:41:31] running rebuildRedirects.php in the live db would be too heavy. some trickelish script would be needed [10:42:10] in the meantime is there a way to get the redirect links without resorting to looking at the actual text of the page? [10:42:23] that's more data than i want to work with :) [10:42:59] gerdemb: not reliably - you can simply you with pagelinks, but in sime cases, there may be more than one link in the pagelinks table for a redirect page. [10:43:06] then you are screwed, basically :/ [10:45:42] Duesentrieb and chat-de-plafond thanks very much for your help! [10:51:03] 03raymond * r24939 10/trunk/ (15 files in 14 dirs): [10:51:03] * (bug 10977) Update Portuguese translations [10:51:03] Patch by lugusto [10:57:51] 03raymond * r24940 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): [10:57:51] * (bug 10972) Update Chinese translations [10:57:51] Patch by Shinjiman [11:33:29] hi guys [11:33:29] my database corrupted and after i fix it i lost some data [11:33:40] i can find the title but the linked page is empty [11:47:17] help me in this please http://pastebin.com/m1c3a6201 [11:57:58] hi, is there a way to have an extension code added to all article and category pages by default? [12:25:37] hey all! I am trying to run mediawiki on top of Mac OS X and XAMPP, with PHP 5.2.3 [12:25:43] I've run into a problem [12:26:03] I added write permissions to the /config directory, no prob there [12:26:19] but now when I run the /config/index.php script, all it says is: [12:27:00] , then... [12:27:02] Checking environment... [12:27:02] Please include all of the lines below when reporting installation problems. [12:27:02] * PHP 5.2.3 installed [12:27:02] Script is still running [12:27:20] sorry, ignore the last line, that's debug I tried to put in [12:28:13] anyone know what's going on here? it seems like there's a problem running the script, but the page isn't really telling me what the problem is [12:30:06] hi all [12:30:34] how i put one image on a page ? [12:30:41] i already upload it [12:30:49] i dont remember the setence [12:36:08] whee [12:36:41] murftown: maybe adjust the php error display settings [12:37:26] murftown: so after PHP 5.2.3 the installation process stops? [12:38:29] mmm coffeeeee [12:44:51] PunkRock: yes, the last thing the page says is "PHP 5.2.3 installed" [12:49:58] murftown: so there is no line that reports which databasedrivers it found? [12:50:28] exactly, punkrock, there is no line at all underneath the php version line [12:50:38] scary. [12:50:50] this is 1.10.1 [12:51:32] is the config script basically just to create a LocalSettings.php file? [12:51:38] yep. [12:51:47] And Database if you don't have it... [12:51:49] you could try to configure it for our own. [12:52:16] in the next step after checking php it checks the database drivers. [12:52:37] you could try and configure your localsettings manually. [12:52:40] so it should ALWAYS mention the drivers right after the php line? [12:53:10] murftown: also you could try if phpinfo includes the mysql drivers. [12:53:36] yep. if there are no drivers found installation will fail. [12:53:44] but a hang up is not planned i think. [12:54:05] 03(mod) Improper base font size - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9119 +comment (10bugs) [12:54:07] maybe you write a bug report about this. looks like this is a bug. [12:54:28] or maybe this is a known bug. search the bug database before. [12:55:33] murftown: check the output of phpinfo if the drivers are there. [12:55:44] will do [12:56:13] but ... the hangup during the installation should also be reported. [12:57:12] yes, when I display phpinfo() there are sections for mysql and mysqli [12:57:32] which is expected since it all comes bundled and preconfiged in XAMPP [12:57:54] you know how to deal with a console? [12:58:17] you could additionally check if mysql is accessible via mysql client [12:59:21] good idea, or check it thru phpMyAdmin right? that comes with XAMPP too [13:00:33] murftown: yep. [13:01:01] 03(FIXED) Ability to give a reason when deleting old image revision - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7535 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [13:01:28] 03(mod) Update for Cantonese language (zh-yue) #53, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese (PRC) and Chinese (Taiwan) localisation (zh-cn/zh-tw) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10972 (10shinjiman) [13:01:56] Fixed it, did I? We'll see about that! [13:03:13] 03robchurch * r24941 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Bug number for image deletion confirmation stuff [13:03:20] murftown: well, if phpmyadmin runs, then there is definitely no reason for mediawiki to not accept the database. that's what i expect. [13:05:40] 03mark * r24942 10/trunk/routing/twistedbgp/src/ (bgp.py test.py twisted/protocols/bgp.py): Reformat ip addresses for radix [13:06:07] brion-office: before the checking of the databases, the reporting is set to a lower level, and overrides therefore usersettings for error reporting. [13:06:25] 03(NEW) Use GET instead of POST for username selection in Special: Newpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11001 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (dungodung) [13:08:37] yes, phpmyadmin ran and allowed me to interact with MySQL. I made a new database called "wikidb" [13:08:50] punkrock: [13:08:58] 03raymond * r24943 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): [13:08:58] * (bug 10972) Update Chinese translations [13:08:58] Patch by Shinjiman [13:09:18] 03(mod) Update for Cantonese language (zh-yue) #53, Update for Old Chinese / Late Time Chinese languages (och/ltc) , Update for Chinese (PRC) and Chinese (Taiwan) localisation (zh-cn/zh-tw) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10972 (10raimond.spekking) [13:09:55] murftown: you have no fear of touching php code? then the easiest step would be to do what brion-office suggested. changing error reporting in the installation code. [13:10:30] what are some pitfalls i should look out for when authenticating users on MS ActiveDirectory. I am using RHEL4 [13:10:54] punkrock: ok is there just a variable to change or do I actually need to comment out some control blocks and so on? [13:11:41] murftown: just change lines 256 and 267. [13:12:07] do you know how to comment out a line? just put in two slashes in front of em. [13:12:08] dtolj: read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/LDAP and the associated talk page [13:12:35] murftown: both lines say smth. with error_reporting, right? [13:12:43] LDAP question: I get a error "Binding as the user" "Failed to bind as IP\Username with password: psw" [13:12:57] I have done the setup according to the initial setup from the give link [13:13:19] 03robchurch * r24944 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SpecialNewpages.php): (bug 11001) Submit Special:Newpages as a GET, rather than a POST request [13:13:20] i am however connected successfully [13:13:38] 03(FIXED) Use GET instead of POST for username selection in Special: Newpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11001 +comment (10robchur) [13:13:56] 03(mod) OmegaWiki should use less memory - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10969 (10brion) [13:13:57] dtolj: perhaps read http://linuxwiki.riverworth.com/index.php/LDAP_Authentication too [13:14:12] dungodung: Fixed. [13:14:38] punkrock: at 276 on mine, error_reporting is backed up and set to 0 temporarily [13:14:46] brion: Nonsense! Throw another gig of RAM at it. [13:14:49] then 287 it is reset to the old version [13:14:57] murftown: set it to E_ALL [13:15:05] murftown: thats it. [13:15:14] comment em out. [13:15:28] they are set at the beginning of the script to E_ALL [13:15:36] so its redundant. [13:15:49] no harm in redundancy :) [13:16:04] not at all. [13:16:10] 03(mod) add exclude redirects on backlinks or indicate redirect in result - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10980 summary (10brion) [13:16:18] should keep my smart ass calm hehehe [13:16:20] ini_set("display_errors", 1); is also a good idea, if it's not already there [13:16:48] murftown: then restart the script [13:17:02] PunkRock: well, *actually*, redundant code can cause a lot of troubles. but in a case like this, I like to play safe :) [13:17:24] 03raymond * r24945 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (5 files): * (bug 10983) Removing Wikipedia hardwired messages [13:17:25] thanks robchurch [13:17:36] Depends on who you ask, really; an engineer will tell you that redundancy is a Good Thing, a programmer will hiss and claw at you. [13:17:53] well, redundante *code* sucks. [13:18:01] redundant data can be a good idea, or not. [13:18:18] 03(FIXED) Wikipedia hardwired message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10983 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [13:18:24] punkrock: would it make ANY sense at all if I commented those lines out then reloaded the script and it didn't add any new output? just the same page as before [13:18:43] Well, generally if your data is deliberately "redundant", i.e. duplicated, but you're doing that to speed up some query and you're careful about updating it, then it's probably fine, and it's not really redundant. [13:19:07] (In that it's not uselessly duplicated, it serves a positive purpose...) [13:20:00] right, though failover setups are often refered to as "redundancy". [13:20:21] 03(mod) Sub tag not closed if it contains an unmatched '' - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6265 (10brion) [13:20:24] murftown: sense? ERM. [13:20:33] murftown: in some cases: yes! [13:20:46] murftown: but it's kind of nast for your problem. [13:20:52] nasty [13:21:10] yeah [13:21:36] you might think it would at least say something like "Running with all errors displayed" [13:22:09] murftown: no. [13:22:24] murftown: this should not be there. [13:22:40] punkrock: well it's not, so that's good I guess [13:22:43] Let's see. Brion likes having redundant hardware. Brion doesn't like redundant code, or redundant data, or redundant queries. Brion would be upset if Brion himself became redundant. [13:22:54] Game over, redundancy sucks. :P [13:23:00] murftown: but the lines in between your commented error_reporting code should made some verbose messages. [13:23:07] I need to come back to this later, but thanks for your help guys! [13:23:12] hehe [13:23:19] redundant hardware == if one breaks, the other still works [13:23:22] cool punkrock, I'll look at the code a bit to understand more. thanks again [13:23:27] redundant software == if one works, the other one still breaks ;) [13:23:27] I'm sure I'll be back [13:23:50] cu [13:24:03] hehe :P [13:24:08] I suppose the 64,000 Canadian dollar question is... [13:24:14] brion-office: nicely put. [13:24:15] Redundant Stroopwafels. Good or bad? [13:25:09] wtf is stroop? [13:25:17] robchurch: how much time for the answer? [13:25:29] can i use a reaoner? [13:25:44] 03(mod) Linguistic error on the Polish "Wikipedia has a problem page" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10982 (10brion) [13:26:14] reasoner [13:27:05] is it possible to setup the wiki so a certain group of users can only access certain pages or Category of page? [13:29:44] 14(DUP) Watched page not in Special:Watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10986 +comment (10brion) [13:29:47] 03(mod) Logs about watched pages should appear in the watchlist - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5546 +comment (10brion) [13:31:46] 03(mod) redirect-only messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10990 (10brion) [13:32:23] Odd...QueryPage::doQuery(), ~ line 344; calls wfShowingResults(...) and wraps it in

. wfShowingResults() uses wfMsgExt() with parseinline. [13:32:24] MondayAfternoon: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Page_Access_Control_Extensions [13:32:33] Thanks. [13:32:39] However, the result is

Showing....

, which causes validation to fail. Odd. [13:32:52] eww [13:32:59] MondayAfternoon: though note that read protection is not 100% air tight. read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_issues_with_authorization_extensions [13:33:00] Shouldn't wfMsgExt() with parseinline be excluding the

tags? [13:35:03] Removing the extra tags in QueryPage seems to fix it, but this seems inconsistent. [13:40:13] Oh, I see. [13:40:42] I had Tidy left on, with $wgAlwaysUseTidy, for some reason, from when I was testing a recent patch. [13:40:49] Evidently Tidy still sucks. [13:42:35] 03robchurch * r24946 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialNewpages.php: Trim some end-of-file whitespace [13:43:26] 03brion * r24947 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Xml.php: [13:43:26] Throw an exception for invalid data in expandAttributes() so we get a backtrace [13:43:26] and can beat the shit out of whoever did us wrong instead of just seeing a [13:43:26] useless PHP warning message or worse yet silently going through without even [13:43:26] knowing we probably lost the data we wanted somewhere else in our output [13:44:45] *robchurch sniggers [13:44:47] +stabbing [13:45:18] =) [13:45:29] robchurch: I saw you had some issues with Gerard :) [13:45:36] where? [13:45:50] *robchurch frowns [13:45:59] Now, why did I commit that horrible workaround in the first place? [13:46:00] mark: he wrote about that in blog, then erased it :) [13:46:08] *robchurch tries to remember who broke stuff [13:46:11] why did he erase it? [13:46:20] 03brion * r24948 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Xml.php: aaand restore behavior from prior to r24882 on expected input [13:46:24] dunno, robchurch, why did you erase it? [13:47:01] I mean, since when is he being politically correct? ;) [13:47:09] hehe [13:47:47]